5-Axis Machining, 5-Axis Mill

[@ekthaKC]

mathematically defining and modelling surfaces and profiles has become essential now.

[@RJ-lk5kp]

Still amazing how far programming has come. Do we even realize what age we live in? People 1000 years ago would have killed to have this technology. Seems like people are just dumbed down to it now- I am still amazed each time I see it.

[@aaronhoadley1053]

Even 150 tears ago

[@aaronhoadley1053]

Years

[@gordonburns6721]

In the early 60s we had a kind of CNC here in the UK... we in the Tool Room named it the TC: officially the Tape Controlled Horizontal and Vertical Milling Machine, where huge lumps of cast iron (with a machined surface on the underside) were secured to the machine bed and came out perfect, so CNC is far from new. I must admit, though, in 1962 it was nothing like (not even a single iota like) what is available today! In those days 'digital' was in its infancy and programmable machines utilised 'punch-card' inputs, which was fine for squares, triangles and (in the hands of a decent programmer) circles and radii. Great video, guys! :o)

[@jonross377]

That would have been a 3 axis machine. This is a 5!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@wilfredoromero7701]

So cool. I used to mount these in Elliott p.a.p. units. Also I installed turbine blades. These things get balanced at like 10000 rpms

[@e.neebbriated.3449]

This video made me happy, thanks.

[@survivalisme88]

For such an an amazing machine that tool change took ages.

[@mierzhen]

That moment when the 5-Axis mill has its own soundtrack for everything you want it to do.

[@MDAPrecision]

Check out an example of our 5 axis mill machining a turbine blade.

[@Spoif]

MDAPrecision Dear Santa Claus. I have been a good boy all year, and would like one of these 5-axis CNC machines please. The grey and black one is nice, but if you can make me a red one, that would be nice too. I can arrange to leave the garage open on Christmas Eve so you don't have to try to get it through the chimney. As usual, I will be leaving you a glass of nice brandy and some carrots for the reindeer. Thanks.

[@kristopherkringle7844]

+Spoif I am allergic to brandy and carrots give the reindeer the shits. Doesn't sound that bad, but when you have Rudolph's butt three feet from your face and you average Mach 804, reindeer poop can sting a little. Leave out some low fat milk and a few cookies and I'll see what I can do.

[@rickcat4437]

Do u offer training? i have degree already in mechanical engineering.

[@mectron63]

+Ricrane Catboy i need the training im only experienced on programming and machining upto 4th axis as i need a job

[@rickcat4437]

@ mectron63 Oh. We are both in it but you seems to have an edge as you already acquire training up to 4axis

[@deangouramanis7164]

WOW. Awesome. I really like that toolchanger.

[@11thboris]

i like how it references the length of the tool

[@jonross377]

pretty typical isnt it...

[@AllAddsUp]

I had no idea that's how impellers were made... So badass.

[@JohnDoe-fv5cu]

This machine is freaking amazing!

[@kylefer]

I crapped my pants when I saw it zero itself. Thats some Sky-Net Terminator future thinking machine engineering right there.

[@OmegasevenWoW]

kylefer I dont know if you know the Company called "Trumpf" from germany. They produce (laser-)cutting machines, CNC-Bending machnines and they all reference them selfes.

[@kylefer]

Yeah I spent some time in Germany :]

[@kylefer]

I'm just used to manually zero'ing a machine myself.

[@dajanmarinkovic4424]

+kylefer Me to... I calibrate my tool manually... this shit is crazy

[@kylefer]

I used to use a piece of paper to do it, it sounds stupid but it's how I was taught, put a piece of paper between the metal and the tool, lower it until you can't slide the paper around anymore, it's been a while but I think my mentor taught me to slide the paper out then lower it just a hair to compensate, I haven't done any machining in a long time though.

[@waspsnest]

what is the max diameter you can fit in the chuck. could it handle a 5 inch impeller?

[@殷佳玲]

Spindle diameter 50 mm ,the use of special alloy steel material, heat treatment and precision grinding after repeated processing.

[@SoCalRyeder]

Is that machine rigid enough for steel? And Im not talking about 1/4 em taking 10 percent cuts at 1/8 inch.

[@vioang8953]

Amazing machine!

[@akshaykamble966]

hi

[@akshaykamble966]

hi

[@Ihavetruth22]

good for only a few parts or making dies for production. casting is still the best way for mass production.

[@scottfawcus9231]

Im assuming the work piece was located onto something during initial setup as I can't imagine a quick tighten up with a cap head would meet the needs of a turbine - either that or there was a finishing process afterwards to pick up the true center line.

[@crice1uk]

+Scott Fawcus looks like a shoulder bolt (rather than a regular cap head screw) which goes into a counter-bore in the chuck fixture.

[@tylercunningham3275]

Very cool machine, but was it just me or did those tool changes take forever?

[@GnosisMan50]

my thoughts exactly....I'm wondering if he can program it to move faster

[@TheKribu]

It was just you.

[@tylercunningham3275]

Kristjan Tullus yeah, I'm extremely impatient

[@GnosisMan50]

Considering it's a CNC machine- with 5 axis, mind you- you would think the tool change would take a lot less time. I suppose it could be programmed to move faster. Anyway, it's a great machine.

[@NiteSaiya]

Didn't it say the whole process took 90 minutes? Tool change is minor in comparison.

[@sadder9531]

i wanna know how you can make the alignement before starting the machining , i mean how you aligne the spindle and the processed part first time

[@taktautomobili]

The machine makes the holder,so center is where it should be first and last piece the same.

[@sadder9531]

:) i understand that , you align the spindle bid to the center which is the bolt used to fix the machined piece ,

[@sadder9531]

what is the torque of the different stepper motors !! and the RPM of the spindle because spindles with more than 40000 rpm , can hold tiny bids , and is much precise. thanks for your reply

[@inciteman]

Wow does it still need to be balanced?

[@94mxer]

is it shooting an oil mist?

[@DeliciousDeBlair]

How do you calculate the twist of a turbine blade like that????

[@carmelpule6954]

Delicious DeBlair When designing a propeller, I normally consider any radius, then open it up by finding the circumference at that radius, Now every point on any radius must move forward the PITCH to be considered . well the pitch divided by the circumference is the tangent of the angle ( twist ) in question. As the circumference increases with radius, the twist of the propeller is lowest at the tip of the propeller and greatest at the hub. For a centrifugal /axial turbine blade it could be more difficult as the medium is compressed, but with a little thinking and thermodynamics one can take it all into account, Congratulations for realising the mathematical difficulties that exist in such machines, It is such a pity this is not considered as ART for that is what it is. Invisible and silent art, which many people just do not appreciate, Congratulations for your observation and I would say that your emotions and sensitivity is highly developed for noticing and observing such an issue. Good luck with your wishes.

[@DeliciousDeBlair]

I would be a lot happier emotionally if I knew the exact formula but I will try to analyze what you wrote here, plug in some numbers and see if it produces anything my CAD system will render. If so, I'll ask a friend of mine to try to copy it and if it works, I'l post a photo of the finished work on my video list. I really want to make a Paxton type supercharger for my little diesel track loader so I can increase its power and fuel efficiency, but to do that I would need to be able to design the compressor as close to the peak complessile optimum for the machine's internal tolerances, without 'going over' and causing rapid engine wear. Before I could even do that much, however, I would first need to perform a complete overhaul on the machine to ensure all of the bearing, gaskets and hard moving parts such as rods, pins and pistons were all up to the task. Ideally, a double forged custom machined steel crank shaft and nitride crank bearings, forged titanium pistons with cast-in teflon rings and connecting rods balanced to the new crank and an ultra-form head gasket for ratios as high as 25:1 . In the mean time, I will also study the one compressor I have on hand. Thank you for the mathematical references! (^_^)/

[@nazarramsey9490]

Carmel Pule' for such machining you must have a CAM software........Master-Cam, Surf-cam.....etc

[@Lowloudandsideways]

Not sure if anyone else notices it but I think its spraying a light mist/jet of ethanol everyone few seconds, you can see how the surface its wet. I really like the automatic tool offset feature! will it do it to every tool? what if a tool breaks/or is broken? and this surely cant be its max rapid speed, Great looking machine btw, would love to work on one of these

[@gibbo1112]

WD-40 or similar i would say, aluminium loves the stuff as a cutting fluid.

[@wandilemashinini7839]

gibbo1112 yeah that is correct, WD-40

[@cnc_channel510]

Why stepper motors, and not servos? I know it is cheaper solution, but it creates a lot of vibration on low rpm, which transfer to chassis and at the end to the spindle and tool. Is this the reason why tool change routine is so slow? What is the machine maximum speed? Here on video, it seems it doesnt exceed 2500 mm/min.

[@MDAPrecision]

Hello CNC Channel, this video is of our 5 axis system almost 7 years ago. All of our machines have servo motors now. We agree it's a great upgrade!

[@fiddelinpaul]

Are there no G00 moves on that fine machine?

[@jonross377]

Slow traverse wasnt it...

[@cadcam9592]

how is inserting a drill is done?

[@peterzsiros3179]

That is good work on a benchtop machine

[@kurtdurjan8216]

I wish I knew how to program stuff like that. Having that little benchtop wouldn't be bad either... Sweet!

[@cassjesse8536]

Wow that is cool

[@peterzsiros3179]

***** Oddly enough, that is what I do. Because it is a challenge.

[@Kev376]

You would need $80,000 - $600,000 to pay for a 5 axis CNC so that's another hurdle.

[@jonross377]

@@peterzsiros3179 Its not difficult once you have been doing it for a while.

[@watahyahknow]

wonder how you build a 5 axis file from drawing , do you build it up in layers like you would a 3d print ?

[@johnfritzel9833]

No

[@brendanshaw4862]

absolute precision!

[@goesintite]

No GOO?? Is that as rapid as it can traverse / change tools?

[@goesintite]

I do like the automatic tool offset feature

[@MDAPrecision]

[@evan1911]

Is it setting tool lengths with a touch sensor or a laser?

[@94mxer]

Evan Carlson touch. you can see it press the button

[@jojomama4787]

I own my grandfather's Brown and Sharpe mod.0 milling machine,it is a five axis machine circa. 1935,has a vertical attachment as well as table attachments that enable one to make helical cuts...it baffles me as to why a machine such as this is not produced today

[@jonross377]

Really? Pics? As far as I know they never made a mod.0 and 5th axis didn't come around till the mid 40's, not mid 30's.

[@tashannon1745]

CNC dentistry will be next, so watch out!

[@pantherax1]

damn

[@mzaphod64]

The only job for a dentist to do, will be to hold a safety switch.. :)

[@tashannon1745]

just imagine it... loading your head into a vise before the procedure

[@tashannon1745]

Update... China has already begun to implement cnc dentistry..

[@BenAtTheTube]

I have a CNC machined ceramic tooth in my head right now. The dentist made some measurements and gave them to the machine, which cut the crown (inside and out) that was then glued onto the remains of my original tooth. It works great. This is actually old technology. The last time I was there, the machine was down because the out of date computer was inadequate to run the upgraded software.

[@brunohardegger3464]

absolutely impressive !!!!

[@Ocean_Ave]

does anyone know what that machine just made?

[@Kenjamoto]

This is a centrifugal compressor for a turbo or either a small scale gas turbine jet engine.

[@m8sullivan]

Kenjamoto your first guess is correct. its a turbocharger (or possibly a centrifugal supercharger) compressor wheel.

[@doright6461]

So kenjamoto, you are deninate on the first guess? I am not on my own as well )) If I had to guess??? maybe a a turbo impeller of a Dyson vaccumm...... lol

[@wandilemashinini7839]

Its an impeller, could be for a turbo or a centrifugal supercharger

[@hierrochulo5411]

what material is the turbine blade?

[@krushrpants]

Typically the turbine side is inconel and the compressor side is aluminum. Specific alloys vary depending on the application

[@boop2]

Hm, how long does cleanup usually take?

[@TheMrFraps]

20min if you know what too do

[@hellisneverawesome]

This is really cool. I learnt how to use 3 axis machines, but have no idea to use a 4 or 5 axis part. If anyone knows where I can get info for free tutoring for mastercam for 4 or 5 axis milling, that would help a lot! Thanks. Nice vid.

[@高志强-t4k]

NX better for 5 axis milling

[@zorb2000]

Is R2D2 operating it??

[@pantherax1]

its r2d2 grandpa

[@testy462]

Beast of a machine

[@claykress2559]

Is there a CAD design for this somewhere, I want that impeller.

[@DodongWerkzPh]

how much is that kind of machine?

[@yvanefarrouil6738]

C'est très bien fait°😊

[@ufo.architect]

Does it fly?

[@anthonyem12]

its a impeller for turbocharger

[@wandilemashinini7839]

anthony mortimer or for a centrifugal supercharger

[@srhabb]

How much does that machine cost?

[@tooldigest7340]

Nice work

[@kumarajay8164]

Cool super cool five - Axis machine I'm also working in same filled in India But there payments is very low

[@AIexanderHartdegen]

I never expected than this kind of stuff can be made by multiaxes machines.

[@FluffMuncher]

thats awesome! My problem is I keep watching this stuff and my 3 axis has now had stuff order for a 4th axis.. now im thinking I might make it a 5th axis lol

[@nikostzagar]

This is very beautiful!! Suppose I ordered this compressor wheel. How much would it cost??

[@smolville]

Shouldn't it have 9 or 11 blades?

[@TheRandomActivity]

depends on how he designs it lol

[@smolville]

I'm saying that in the real world, harmonics would destroy your design.

[@jimmie42]

smolville Odd #'s are not required for turbines, only radial engines.

[@TheRandomActivity]

if odd numbers were required than so many turbo charger companies wouldn't use a 6 or 8 vane configuration

[@frankbuck99]

Jimmie Franz why does a radial require odd number of cylinders?

[@thomasellswick8661]

No coolant??

[@maikeydii]

There is no need for flood coolant. Many modern machining methods use compressed air or MQL (minimum quantity lubrication, essentially compressed air mixed with oil mist) for chip removal (and lubrication).

[@thomasellswick8661]

Pretty cool!

[@kumarajay8164]

Nice dudes I love machines

[@FutureAIDev2015]

It's so beautiful... 😲

[@JohnJaggerJack]

a turbo's fan is made of aluminum?

[@jimmie42]

The inlet (compressor) side can be. It may just be a test piece.

[@RibbedGiraffe]

The compressor is aluminum, the turbine (Exhaust side) is steel.

[@dadoVRC]

Scott Haney Or better superalloys...inconel, for example.

[@VaporheadATC]

RibbedGiraffe 1 That's almost opposite of a true jet engine. Turbine blades are steel, and compressor blades are titanium.

[@tashannon1745]

VaporheadATC Well that is a turbo impeller for car use most likely. Most medium-grade wheels are indeed aluminum. High-dollar/high-performance turbos have titanium compressor wheels. Some knock off ebay turbos actually have steel blades on compressor side and exhaust

[@anusinvaderrick893]

did that friggin machine just touch off in z by itself after automatically inserting a drill into the holder? what is this necromancy?

[@chrisshaw1294]

Tool setter, You can make one yourself for about $10 No more need to enter tool height.

[@19haek95]

+Chris Shaw how?

[@Sweeper0123]

motors are playing awesome sounds :D that machine is singing :)

[@williamhill2221]

Metal material engine / motor the most disadvantage was very bad quality of thermal insulation and corrosion inhibitor. There was still including weight of metal material very heavy to cause flying obstacles flying very slowly/flying no so high/flying no so far.

[@cialde-onlinecom]

Ottimo lavoro

[@karnboonkhein4219]

How much ? I interrest

[@zpwslayer9719]

And now let the de-burring process begin!

[@nguyenngochieu5430]

what is that?

[@grumpus27]

Impeller blade

[@mmccoy577]

Amazing !

[@vl3909]

Awesome indeed

[@SONOFAZOMBIE2025]

OMG - what kind of sorcery is going on here?!! the machine could not have been made by humans.

[@denisl2760]

Son of a Zombie It made itself.

[@gervaisfillion9417]

Can it worked on metal too? would be great to manufacture my parts in my Ural Differential :-))

[@MrCongtham]

very good ! (quá đỉnh !)

[@PersMachinist]

very nice.

[@timothymunday1338]

they are the terrifying noises 60s scifi movies threatened us with

[@mattijskramer1986]

Turbine balde? Looks like an impeller to me...

[@mbsnyderc]

Now if you could get it to clean it's self off.then i would really be impressed.

[@RamenPoweredShitFactory]

Compressed air bby

[@KilonKasio]

The only drawback i saw was the cleanin needed after a part was finished. Sure, grab a compressed air hose but with all the automation, surely something could be set up to clear an convey the shavings out

[@mihaipopa8918]

Imagine if religion didn't exist, that would be a period of maximum evolution for us, humans.

[@erik61801]

cool dremel tool.

[@markrich3271]

Where do you see a dremel . There was never once a dremel in this video.

[@AndrewMitusov]

Mark Rich dremel - its a joke )

[@markrich3271]

Andrew Mitusov O jeeze I feel like a twit now. sorry.

[@ozglobal5257]

mastercam can work on this machine

[@chrisshaw1294]

Mastercam can work on ANY machine. LOL

[@daffodilno]

That reminds me of my dentist doing his job.

[@claudiolh]

My God ! Spetacular machine........= )

[@ExtantFrodo2]

Sweet!

[@mattijskramer1986]

Turbine blade? Looks like an impeller to me...

[@stevegreenaway9527]

Looks like a compressor wheel for a turbo...

[@dylanritchie991]

This is insane

[@9955CAM8]

it's great

[@TheKravojed]

and here I am making shafts on my CNC lathe

[@WCGwkf]

these were made at a place I worked at but 10" or so diameter and out of wax for a casting or something. Pretty cool to watch, not fun to clean up chips.

[@Th3shootist]

The 5th axis lets you enter subspace... lol

[@peterfischer68]

cool....

[@spleno1]

Super dooper, pooper scooper, cool :)

[@govindsinghrathore4671]

awesomeee

[@sane_guy07]

nice...

[@dineshkumar8634]

kitne ki hai

[@zforce69]

Needs a water separator on the air line.

[@dennyskerb4992]

It's a cool mist setup

[@Krispykashew]

That poor tool :( listening to it cry makes me sad :'(

[@Nuker-jc6qo]

Cool

[@Omar-hm4sr]

están muy bien

[@nathohomimo2496]

GOOD

[@GnosisMan50]

ok I need a million of them...lol..

[@Bigwingrider1800]

Yeppers that stepper motors all day long.. wow are you kidding me...........

[@enkisonofanu2301]

Looks like tourture

[@TheTruelakersfan]

Easy,I learned how to use a cnc machine in a month with no experience what’s so ever.Took people to get a degree or a certificate in manufacturing or engineering lol

[@jonross377]

I went to college for 3 years for it. I bet you dont know as much as you think you do.

[@velouric]

Engineering Porn!, Industrial Designer right here; my mouth is watering thinking of all the things i could make!

[@sadder9531]

6000rpm is good :)