5 Genius Ways Players Outsmarted Their Opponents

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@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic 7 ай бұрын
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@aidenchism8628
@aidenchism8628 7 ай бұрын
SPOILER FOR THE SECRET CARD Phyrexian Obliterator also can be worked around with cards like breaking of the fellowship where you make another creature of theirs deal damage to it.
@ahuman7027
@ahuman7027 7 ай бұрын
That 6th card is so good in that specific way :o !!
@enzomc5355
@enzomc5355 7 ай бұрын
4:14 the best part of Throne of Geth is that a chalice on 2 counters a future chalice on 1
@ZovcDrafts
@ZovcDrafts 7 ай бұрын
Came here to say this.
@dimandore7633
@dimandore7633 7 ай бұрын
Chalice cares about Mana Value / CMC, and X counts as CMC 0, no matter what you spend for it
@AlienValkyrie
@AlienValkyrie 7 ай бұрын
@@dimandore7633 Used to be, but not anymore. While a spell with X in its mana cost is on the stack, the value of X counts toward its mana value.
@Chubbies34
@Chubbies34 7 ай бұрын
@@dimandore7633this is correct for searching or for effects like cascade where you have to cast it then and there. X is 0 but when you’re casting the spell the x is calculated into the cmc now
@kendrickvickers2610
@kendrickvickers2610 7 ай бұрын
@@AlienValkyrie but wouldnt then a chalice on 2 cost 4 mana? 2+2
@SpiritOfLenin
@SpiritOfLenin 7 ай бұрын
That life gain counter to psychatog was insanely funny. Everyone in MTG 'knows' life gain isn't very good, so that specific counter is something most people would not think about.
@CasualCoreK
@CasualCoreK 7 ай бұрын
Right, you're used to fighting a deck that can just keep outdamaging your healing forever OR does infinite damage when it goes off. psychatog can't do either of those
@TheArcSet
@TheArcSet 7 ай бұрын
:) Honestly, that old adage is the main reason I play weaponised life brews. Did you know Black's 'Fling' costs 1 more, lets you keep the creature and gain life equal to the damage, now think 'Wall of Blood'. Or go the other way, 'Wall of Shards' so your opponent gains x+1 life each turn, while your 1G Kavu gains X counters per life, then swap your opponent's life total with 'Tree of Perditions' toughness and pay GB to make an X/X spirit token, equal to that toughness.
@shocker1410
@shocker1410 7 ай бұрын
Like a bite? ​@@TheArcSet
@ih8people
@ih8people 7 ай бұрын
It's even more funny when Magic players see Flesh & Blood cards like Sigil of Solace for the first time (been there myself). "Wait, it just gains you three life at instant speed. THAT'S IT??". Then they see it being played in 2/3 of all Dromai decks and their mind just breaks :D
@MindstabThrull
@MindstabThrull 7 ай бұрын
I started playing just before Legends came out. During Odyssey/Onslaught/7th was the last time I really played a LOT of Standard, but I've always been a relatively casual player. I think even at that point I didn't really know that life gain wasn't good, because it did so much to counteract your opponent's game plan. But denying yourself drawing cards just seemed so bad so I really didn't have much interest in the Words, although some of them I kind of understood they might be playable - Words of War, for example. And during that Standard I was on Upheaval Tog (there was more than one variant, Upheaval was a more controlling build) and I remember Mirari's Wake coming out and playing Mirari itself and Cunning Wish and Elephant Ambush - and back then Wishes could get something that was removed from game OR in your sideboard, so you could copy the Wish with Mirari, use one copy to get what you wanted from your sideboard, and the other copy to get a previously-exiled Wish. So you could get infinite blockers eventually and at some point be able to make more creatures than your opponent had Pyschatogs and then you could turn the tables. I never saw Words of Worship get usefully used; its meme status came from combining it with cards like Nefarious Lich to turn drawing one card into drawing five... and I never saw anyone do that either. Great call by Toffel!
@mikotagayuna8494
@mikotagayuna8494 7 ай бұрын
I am old and I remember playing a monoblack Necrodeck against some random pile. I was able to cast a Necropotence off a Dark Ritual, feeling smug that I have been handed a free win. Then my opponent calmly played an Anvil of Bogardan that had us skipping our discard steps. In the old rules, since Necro forces you to skip your draw step and that the cards you draw from it are not added to your hand until your discard step, he basically banned me from drawing a card for the rest of the game. Good times.
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic 7 ай бұрын
Wow that's a really good one!
@AlienCowThatMoos
@AlienCowThatMoos 7 ай бұрын
Rakdos Charm was my secret weapon in my Modern Rakdos Goblin deck back then. I ran four copies mainboard. It was the best card in the deck against Twin, Affinity and Goro's Vengeance. Even against other decks it was still a janky burn spell. Worst case, they'd stablize with some blockers and then it'd get in for 2-4 more damage. The best GP moment I had with it was against Elves. He made more elves than I could goblins, and they were all bigger too. I did the math and realized I was dead next turn, but my Rakdos Charm would kill us both if I used it. So I swung out. He spent minutes calculating the odds, checking the angles, looking for a potential buff or blow out, and finally blocked everyone profitably. All my gobos died, all his elves lived. And then Rakdos Charm for the win!
@williamchristensen7354
@williamchristensen7354 7 ай бұрын
I aggressively fist pumped at the end of your post. What a victory!
@soasertsus
@soasertsus 7 ай бұрын
omg Thoralf's trash lifegain strat is one of the funniest things I've seen in magic, because I know for a fact I would absolutely fall for it every single time lol. Even after being explained why it works, it still is hard to get my head around that it's not completely garbage, absolutely genius play
@Its_Eros
@Its_Eros 7 ай бұрын
7:15 the blue card in the cycle is Words of Wind, not Wisdom. It's pay 1 to skip a draw and each player bounces a *permanent* to hand. In my Jhoira, Weatherlight Captain storm deck it puts everything back into my opponents hands and loops discounted/free mana rocks.
@witchcraft2264
@witchcraft2264 7 ай бұрын
Fellow competitive jhoira player spotted
@rubiusstudios5709
@rubiusstudios5709 7 ай бұрын
yeah I was confused why one of them was an instant and didn't follow the cycle at all lol
@auberry8613
@auberry8613 7 ай бұрын
@@rubiusstudios5709If you were looking closely you'd also notice its a different set and rarity lol
@85mcarnold
@85mcarnold 7 ай бұрын
Words of Wind was a critical piece in a UG Enchantress deck that Gabriel Nassif used to take second in one of the old Masters tournaments in 2003.
@Xeno-MTG
@Xeno-MTG 7 ай бұрын
haha I was just going to jump on this as well, since I also run Jhoira in cEDH :D
@jacobisbell9388
@jacobisbell9388 7 ай бұрын
I actually ended up siding in condemn against death's shadow decks because it's a weird matchup where the lifegain is actually a downside for them, often turning it into 1 mana remove 2 or 3 creatures and since their creatures are usually attacking I have a target.
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic 7 ай бұрын
This one is great!
@GrandDuchessTaco
@GrandDuchessTaco 7 ай бұрын
The Price of Glory counter with Sacred Ground has big "Call an ambulance, but not for me" energy.
@Ixidora
@Ixidora 7 ай бұрын
I actually pulled this off accidentally while countering a spell in an edh game against my buddy who loves to Armageddon and my buddy who runs a stacks/combo version of OG Krenko. I would legit pull a land before going to play with them to put sacred ground in.
@PlayMadness
@PlayMadness 7 ай бұрын
Throne of Geth as a sideboard bullet against Chalice is one of my favorite deckbuilding choices in Magic history. Throne was printed in Scars of Mirrodin to interact with poison counters. The prediction to bring them into a sideboard against Chalice is so good.
@theodorecyngiser2841
@theodorecyngiser2841 7 ай бұрын
I play mono-red burn in legacy, and one time I was on an absolute loosing streak to painter and show and tell, so partially as a joke, I added one copy of Emrakul to my sideboard as a counter strategy to those two decks. I never got the chance to use it against painter, but I did beat show and tell once when they used show and tell to turn one an Emrakul thinking it would put me to dead on board only for me to slap out my own Emrakul that got off summoning sickness first.
@petrakat
@petrakat 7 ай бұрын
I think my favorite outsmarting moment was Frank Karsten's double-bluff of Blood Oath, on this very channel!
@Bleesotron
@Bleesotron 7 ай бұрын
Another quality deck-building choice: During Shards of Alara/Zendikar Standard, Jund was very good. Very very good. It played all the best value cards you could find and was generally unfair. If you've ever had someone Bloodbraid Elf into Blightning, you know the pain. Anyways, some tournament grinders decided to counter the bejesus out of Jund, and made Spread 'Em. It used all the cascade cards they could get their hands on, in order to turbo out Spreading Seas, an enchantment that turned a land into an Island. See, the downside of Jund is that it's a three color deck, and heavily reliant on multi-colored spells. If you Island enough of their lands, they can't play most of their spells. So what did some Jund players do? Wet Jund. Take that Jund deck, pull out a few random cards, and just jam four Jace the Mind Sculptor in there. If you read the meta correctly, you didn't even need to play any actual Islands in your deck.
@R3ach4Th3Sky
@R3ach4Th3Sky 7 ай бұрын
A fun one in modern is giving your opponents token indestructible with blacksmith's skill when they target it with Indomitable Creativity, meaning they cant search their library for the creature
@Atulack
@Atulack 7 ай бұрын
Fun! They usually just kill my crab token.
@WafflesInTheRain
@WafflesInTheRain 7 ай бұрын
My favourite outsmarting moment was playing a GB Aristocrats style mirror on Arena. We were stalled because a single death trigger would kill either of us, but then I remembered APNAP. Since the Active Player’s triggers go on the stack first, I kept passing turns until he attacked me so my (Non-Active Player) triggers would go on the stack last and resolve first, draining his life and winning me the game. But usually I just rush and misplay or worse make game rule violations when playing paper magic 😅
@rubiusstudios5709
@rubiusstudios5709 7 ай бұрын
Clever!
@Pistolsatsean
@Pistolsatsean 7 ай бұрын
This is why Settle the Wreckage is one of my favorite cards, when you predict it and dodge, or your opponent doesn't and you get the wipe, so satisfying!
@patuni
@patuni 7 ай бұрын
During Eldrazi Winter, I won so many games with a Hombrew Deck that sported a combo using Teysa, Orzhov Scion and Painter's Servant. The reason why this was so effective at that time was due to cards like Eldrazi Temple or the now banned Eye of Ugin cared about Colourless Eldrazi. The scarecrow made the deck play fair magic.
@nathancook1277
@nathancook1277 7 ай бұрын
Years ago, when Mind's Desire was a big extended deck, Telemin Performance became a hot sideboard tech for the mirror match to deck your opponent. Some people started siding in one copy of Phage the Untouchable (!!!) for their opponent's Telemin Performance.
@yangerdanger7744
@yangerdanger7744 2 ай бұрын
thats actually amazing
@ylktr
@ylktr 7 ай бұрын
I love the setup of one at the desk with the other two next to him. Makes me think you guys should get your own late night talk show!
@MopeyN
@MopeyN 7 ай бұрын
Call the show _End Of Your Turn_ or _End Step_ . Credits to me, or not if someone was quicker ;)
@Uber_Jester
@Uber_Jester 7 ай бұрын
I have a cool one I did that I never saw anywhere. Back in the day of extended, I played TEPS, which was the storm deck. Faires would Board in Telemin Performance to beat them because that match up heavily favored the storm player. I put a phage in my sb so when they Telemin me they lose instead.
@nielsmandemakers720
@nielsmandemakers720 7 ай бұрын
for the first one, dont forget Gaea's blessing :)
@rfs8194
@rfs8194 7 ай бұрын
That Words of Worship tech was genius!
@charlessmith208
@charlessmith208 7 ай бұрын
In cedh I have leyline of singularity as a surprisingly strong stax piece. Dockside, tivit, korvald, and so many other strategies rely on tokens to be good so when they instead legend rule out of existence their entire decks stop functioning.
@WilldabeastLOL12
@WilldabeastLOL12 7 ай бұрын
I remember thinking it was kind of cool seeing Orvar end up in a lot of modern sideboards for the indomitable creativity matchup
@michaelsparks1571
@michaelsparks1571 7 ай бұрын
A commander "out play" I had once was that an opponent had just put Dread on the board and another opponent had the Kaldheim Vorinclex. So I played Murderous Redcap and killed the Dread player using his own creature as my "Sac outlet". Two turns later I drew a real sac outlet and killed the Vorinclex player with Redcap.
@veganermetzger1234
@veganermetzger1234 7 ай бұрын
I understand that the Redcap dies from Dread when dealing Damage and comes back with no counter because of the Vorinclex. But didnt you need a regular Sac-Outlet anyway or how do you sacrifice the Redcap or make damage with it? It needs to make damage to get destroyed from Dread. Could you please explain what im overlooking? Cant figure it out, sorry :)
@michaelsparks1571
@michaelsparks1571 7 ай бұрын
@@veganermetzger1234 "I understand that the Redcap dies from Dread when dealing Damage" Exactly this. Redcap's damage trigger is on when it enters the battlefield. So you shoot 2 damage at Dread player Dread trigger destroys Redcap Persist trigger on Redcap brings it back (No counter because Vorinclex) ETB trigger for 2 damage Rinse Repeat. I only needed my own actual sac outlet to kill the Vorinclex player.
@veganermetzger1234
@veganermetzger1234 7 ай бұрын
Ok thanks, i forgot that it also deals damage when coming back. Thank you for explaining it to me! Have a good day!
@ServoToken
@ServoToken 7 ай бұрын
The link to the secret card took me to a 404 error page
@cl000py9
@cl000py9 7 ай бұрын
Be positive, it could be a rickroll
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic 7 ай бұрын
It's fixed now :)
@ActBreaker
@ActBreaker 7 ай бұрын
it's VERY secret
@GaybrohamStinkton
@GaybrohamStinkton 7 ай бұрын
It was to a prefilled basket and goes to the checkout page. The winning card, mothers credit
@jun1orbaitor44
@jun1orbaitor44 7 ай бұрын
​@@CardmarketMagicFor some reason it still won't load for me
@Melvinvanharn
@Melvinvanharn 7 ай бұрын
Back when Fact or Fiction was in standard, some decks playing red used Sudden Impact to combat it. When the blue player cast a Fact or Fiction, they red player would make a 5/0 pile. If they took the 5/0 pile, they'd cast a Sudden Impact, which dealt damage equal to the number of cards in their hand(which would probably somewhere between 9 and 12 damage). Once the blue players knew what was going on, the red players could still bluff, making a 5/0 split, and the blue players might take the zero pile, because they didn't want to risk taking double digit damage from a single card.
@Crankyor
@Crankyor 7 ай бұрын
I think the Orvar, the All-Seeing interaction with (multiple) Archon if Cruelty belongs here. I was in awe if the creativity when i first saw it! 😊
@AnonymousAnonymous-ht4cm
@AnonymousAnonymous-ht4cm 6 ай бұрын
Why do multiple Archons matter? I see how vs 1 Archon, it will cause the other one to be sacrificed and also be ready to swing. Is it just that if you order your discards you can kill one of the Archons with the orvar-clone's ETB, and the other with the attack trigger?
@adamrobinson6951
@adamrobinson6951 7 ай бұрын
I've been blown out in Commander by Rakdos Charm's third mode so many times that I'm actually surprised this isn't the most popular mode on the card. Truly devastating to make 100x 100/100 hydras with the Hydra Broodmaster only to be killed in response by a 2 mana instant.
@Debatra.
@Debatra. 7 ай бұрын
13:37 - "Charms can't be all strong options." Archdruid's Charm, new from MKM: "Hold my beer."
@therealax6
@therealax6 7 ай бұрын
To be fair, Archmage's Charm also had three strong options.
@BaronSengir1008
@BaronSengir1008 7 ай бұрын
I remember one time on Arena I was playing a Dragons Approach deck, and my opponent milled half my deck... I just laughed to myself because they just helped me... Lol
@joejordan401
@joejordan401 7 ай бұрын
I was playing narcomoeba self-mill in ELD standard on Arena, mono U, and came up against someone trying to mill me. We were both casting "venture deeper" on me, and I was like 😊 because they were helping. Then I cast Clear the Mind to shuffle my graveyard back in (I ran it so I wouldn't actually lose to decking, since the deck wasn't as fast as Modern Dredge at actually closing out games) and they just scooped 😂
@saschakibben475
@saschakibben475 7 ай бұрын
In the Eldrazi Winter, I played Bant midrange with 4 Loxodon Smiter and Path to exile. My favorite play was to Path the Smasher and discard the Smiter into the discard effect to block the Thought Knot Seer.
@OMGclueless
@OMGclueless 7 ай бұрын
They explained that Throne of Geth is good because it can proliferate multiple Chalices at once. But the killer piece of Throne of Geth is that it also answers *future* Chalices, since Chalice on 1 itself has mana value 2 while on the stack and it gets countered by Chalice on 2.
@sh41
@sh41 7 ай бұрын
We used to sideboard Gaia's blessing before the eldrazi existed. Throne of Geth is the best counter sideboard tech card, loved that one! My favourite sideboard card ever was Tormod's crypt in affinity against bridge from below.
@skeven0
@skeven0 7 ай бұрын
Speaking of number 5, while mill is rare in limited. due to the format rules,theres no limit on basics land and your draft/sealed pool is your sideboard, you can add all those cards ( or in the colors you are playing) and increase the land count. it has won me games before, from a regular limited inviroment to cube where brainfreeze was in
@blightyfrogs
@blightyfrogs 7 ай бұрын
How many lands do you add? And if you remember, which limited was this? This is hilarious!
@skeven0
@skeven0 7 ай бұрын
one that springs to mind of regular limited not cube was either M13 or M15 with Mind Sculpt (a common 1U Sorcery ; Target opponent mills 7 cards)@@blightyfrogs
@brainpower45
@brainpower45 7 ай бұрын
I feel like Orvar the All-form deserves a spot on this list vs Archon of Cruelty decks. Every card on this list was at least a playable magic card in their decks. Orvar is literally an uncastable waste of cardboard in the decks that played it, EXCEPT against creativity. In that one matchup it reads "If this card is in your hand when archon of cruelty enters the battlefield, LOL Uno reverse baby!"
@ragnar3434
@ragnar3434 7 ай бұрын
Congrats, words of worship might be my favorite contol win condition ive heard in a while.
@TheMorbidHobo
@TheMorbidHobo 7 ай бұрын
My krenko deck lost to a Rakdos charm once. I was just amazed more than anything. Really fun interaction.
@GoofBallsMTG
@GoofBallsMTG 7 ай бұрын
These discussion episodes make me really want a Cardmarket Podcast.......
@hoodiegal
@hoodiegal 7 ай бұрын
The bonus in the link: I ran into that exact issue when the problem card in question was reprinted in ONE. I just had to play different colored decks until it stopped being so ubiqutous.
@GullyRooster
@GullyRooster 7 ай бұрын
When all but me and one other at my LGS were playing Twin, I was playing through the breach Tron, and Eye of Ugin was legal, so I put a silent arbiter that had been in my folder since 2004 straight in to my maindeck, could tutor it with Eye, and the 5 toughness made it difficult for lighting bolt and galvanic blasts. People walking by would say "ooh sideboard tech!" and correcting them was the most fun I ever had playing Magic.
@gamerl2
@gamerl2 7 ай бұрын
1:36 I mainboarded jester's cap and sadistic sacrament in my Phenax commander deck for this exact reason
@phislolis
@phislolis 7 ай бұрын
The blue card of that cycle is actually Words of Wind
@thomasmyers825
@thomasmyers825 7 ай бұрын
Doing a history of competitive magic series would be cool for us newbies. ❤
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic 7 ай бұрын
We've already done a few of those :) between our Best Deck Ever series and my Strange History Of series, and we'll be doing more in the future too
@Swimmerwoad
@Swimmerwoad 7 ай бұрын
I loved the Orvar the all form counter into archon of cruelty as well
@MrInterVention149
@MrInterVention149 7 ай бұрын
The funniest thing is the only tournament win I ever had in the only tournament I ever played in locals was a mill deck. Milled all the way down to my last card (while playing a zombie deck). No creatures on my opponent’s board after trading creatures. The game looked very dire. Then, I drew my last card. It was Patriarch’s Bidding. I resurrected my entire graveyard, then sacked my new zombies to a Nantuko Husk that was able to attack. Between life loss from sacrificing zombies and the attack damage, I did around 103 damage to win the game. It was a fun experience.
@DiviTon
@DiviTon 7 ай бұрын
I think the favorite "outsmart" strategy I came up with was when I played Elves in modern. The deck is very susceptible to wrath effects, but Chord of Calling for something like Selfless Spirit or Burrenton Forge Tender were easy ways to counter that. However, there was a wrath that is very difficult to counter and that is Living End. At the time, my build of Elves played 3 Ezuri as the primary win condition, but I was also playing one Mirror Entity as an elf that could act as a 4th Ezuri that dodged the legend rule. Anyway, I recall one time my opponent cascaded into Living End and in response I cast Chord for 3 to get a Mirror Entity. Then I activated its ability for zero to wipe my entire board before Living End resolved. Then upon resolution they had a bunch of draft commons and all my creatures came back and I had like 80 power worth of trample and easily attacked for lethal
@badmangames5735
@badmangames5735 7 ай бұрын
I won a pro tour qualifier once due to this. It was during mardu vehicles era. I chose to sideboard deflecting palm against a lot of the meta that included golgari midrange and aether works marvel. It won me so many games, and the opponent was baffled by the choice so often.
@MitchRusso45
@MitchRusso45 7 ай бұрын
Man oh man that lifegain hedge was BEAUTIFUL! Rakdos charm against combo token strategies is also fantastic.
@0rphio333
@0rphio333 6 күн бұрын
Against the Pioneer Inverter-Oracle combo deck it was quite difficult to sideboard counterspells against the Combo because they would side in mystical dispute. However a sneaky (although not perfect) answer was to side in the devoid counterspell Horriby Awry to counter their Eldrazi and usually catch them off guard with only one blue mana open to protect themselves.
@johannesblank1552
@johannesblank1552 7 ай бұрын
Sneaking in that Word of Wisdom at 7:20 :)
@smeatar
@smeatar 7 ай бұрын
Hearing you talk about countering psychatog was so good! It really makes me wish I had people to play magic with
@IfYouNeedAnEdge
@IfYouNeedAnEdge 7 ай бұрын
Gaea’s Blessing also shuffles your graveyard into your library and is cheaper than the Eldrazi so it’s less unfortunate to draw/run in multiples against mill
@javierpatag3609
@javierpatag3609 7 ай бұрын
"The Art of War" is widely available, usually cheap, and quite a short, quick read. Recommended.
@domri4203
@domri4203 7 ай бұрын
There is the audio book on KZbin right now.
@colinsprung3996
@colinsprung3996 7 ай бұрын
I love this type of video from you guys it's really fun
@atypicaloddity
@atypicaloddity 7 ай бұрын
I use that Sacred Ground combo in my Zedruu deck. The fact that it's also helpful against my friend's Zozu deck is the sugar on top
@ryanpeters3812
@ryanpeters3812 7 ай бұрын
My favorite was in New Phyrexia and original Innistrad standard. Phyrexian Obliterator was a monster and hard to kill. I sideboarded in Wrack with Madness. Since the target creature deals its power to itself, it dies and forces the owner of obliterator to sacrifice 5 permanents. It usually was enough to cause them to scoop on the spot.
@Noirevert
@Noirevert 7 ай бұрын
When Pyromancer’s Ascension was in Standard, some people sided in Telemin Performance to mill out the creature less deck which is pretty clever in its own right, but having heard about this tech I added a Phage the Untouchable to my sideboard so my opponents would lose when their Telemin Performance resolved.
@vb_blokeboi7251
@vb_blokeboi7251 7 ай бұрын
As an affinity player, one of my favourite interactions was Arcbound Ravager in the Living End match up. Good fun
@nbarker20
@nbarker20 2 ай бұрын
Carl lookin like he dressed himself out of a clothing donation box. love it.
@leopardbunny
@leopardbunny 6 ай бұрын
I was playing a Commander game with my gf, playing my good ol' friend Brudiclad. Was set up to win via Academy Manufactor, but had no sources of treasure on the field so I was stumbling, and she knew it and was prepared to deal with any sort of treasure generation I could come up with... except for when I countered my own spell with An Offer You Can't Refuse. I turned all my tokens into an ungodly number of Academy Manufactors and swung lethal.
@Geroaergaroe
@Geroaergaroe 7 ай бұрын
I think that list is incomplete without the "secret" fail to find mode to Gift Ungiven.
@larsegholmfischmann6594
@larsegholmfischmann6594 7 ай бұрын
In the Splinter Twin days I played Esper Control and my secret sideboard (never seen anyone else use it) tech was this: Batwing Brume 1(W/B) Instant Prevent all combat damage that would be dealt this turn if White was spent to cast this spell. Each player loses 1 life for each attacking creature they control if Black was spent to cast this spell. (Do both if White and Black was spent.)
@therobbyfitz
@therobbyfitz 7 ай бұрын
The Rakdos Charm tech was the only one on the list I actually got a to pull off. I love all of these
@praetorxak5361
@praetorxak5361 7 ай бұрын
My personal favorite instance was when dredge or affinity were super popular. They would bring in a bunch of enchantment destruction for rest in peace and stony silence. I played jeskai control. I didn't play either of those cards. I played anger of the gods. I knew the draws that they would get when they would have their enchantment destruction in, because they would have one or two cards in hand that literally didn't hit a single card in my deck. It wasn't the most efficient answer, but making them have dead draws was so much more valuable.
@SomeGuy712x
@SomeGuy712x 7 ай бұрын
One time, during a Wilds of Eldraine draft, I was able to win a game by making one of my opponent's creatures indestructible. So, I was at 1 life, and the opponent put a Wicked Role token on his weak creature, while all of my untapped creatures were big enough to destroy it if I blocked, which would've caused his Wicked Role to kill me. It seemed like I'd be doomed whether I blocked or not. However, I happened to have a Moment of Valor in my hand, so I used that to make his creature indestructible so that I could block without his creature dying, and then my creatures were able to finish the opponent off on my next turn. Man, that unusual "big brain play" felt so good.
@JohnFromAccounting
@JohnFromAccounting 7 ай бұрын
I played UWR Control during the Twin era, and splashed black for Rakdos Charm and some other funky sideboard cards. Opponent taking 7,000,000 damage is hilarious.
@wesleyjudson599
@wesleyjudson599 7 ай бұрын
What's also interesting about the Rakdos charm interaction is that it also opens up burn counterplay. If you have the charm and a lightning bolt, for example, then the enemy might create enough to kill you, but put themselves within range of the lightning bolt to finish them off.
@Baritone_RyanHenry
@Baritone_RyanHenry 7 ай бұрын
Videos about Magic’s gaming history is AWESOME! Love it !!
@danielminor5595
@danielminor5595 7 ай бұрын
Against Chalice of the Void in vintage, shattering spree is actually an answer. Even though they would chalice on 1, and shattering spree's mana cost is 1, the replications of it are not "cast" so you they won't get countered by the chalice.
@drake11011
@drake11011 7 ай бұрын
not exactly a sideboard card but i always found it hillarious to get grove of the burnwillows with my sylvan scrying and play relic of progenitus against death shadow, when playing gr tron. the only cards they could play were snapcaster bolt and their discard spells, they could never get their graveyard full enough for angler or their life total low enough for shadow
@ettoreozzy9932
@ettoreozzy9932 7 ай бұрын
When I saw the title I've remembered a golgari charm played so well with the -1/-1 mode in order to save a scavenging ooze from selesnya charm exile clause in standard. But then I understood that this is not necessary a play that outsmarted the opponent and really the options with card choices etc. Nice video though!
@Okosaki
@Okosaki 7 ай бұрын
Mill became so frequent in bo1 historic at one point, that I would main board a single Gaea's Blessing just to counter it. In the rare occasion I drew it, playing it wouldn't be too terrible either.
@cameroncorrado3935
@cameroncorrado3935 7 ай бұрын
I remember when I realized I could use Rakdos Charm to trigger my own Goblin Lackey. It was a fun few weeks, until I realized it just wasn't worth it. 😅
@LucasBuilds
@LucasBuilds 7 ай бұрын
Words of worship!! I actually run that in my Heliod, Warped Eclipse commander deck as one of a couple options to prevent myself from decking out. The rest of the deck is built around using the cost reduction/flash combo from the commander to find Forced Fruition and copy it as many times as possible. It's less mill and more overdraw. By far the most obscure card in it though is Library of Leng. you have no maximum hand size and can discard to the top of your deck instead of your graveyard on a card-by-card basis. funnily enough it also runs an eldrazi, solely so as a means of recycling the entire graveyard to prevent itself from decking out. it's such a profoundly stupid deck but fun as hell to play-- nobody questions the card draw until casting anything means drawing over a quarter of their deck and reducing the cost of all my stuff by 28.
@Vitalquelle
@Vitalquelle 7 ай бұрын
My favourite SB tech from myself was playing fracturing ghust in modern elves against Saheele/Copycat combo.
@MetalHev
@MetalHev 7 ай бұрын
In alchemy, control players really hated Tasha, Unholy Archmage, because of her ult insta-winning the game (it exiled cards from your library until it found 3 creatures and put them on their side of the battlefield, meaning it milled your whole deck if you had no creatures). So, one guy put 1 Yasharn, 1 Nikya of the Old Ways and 1 Codie, Vociferous Codex on his control deck. Tasha player would ult and lock himself out of the game.
@TomGalonska
@TomGalonska 7 ай бұрын
A friend of mine loved to play Soul Sisters in the Twin meta, that deck preyed on Twin :D Exarch wouldn't do anything and often enough pestermite was also not strong enough
@bradjones1449
@bradjones1449 7 ай бұрын
It makes me feel good to see rakdos charm at #1. I thought i was the only one who saw the potential for the third ability.
@davidschneider9428
@davidschneider9428 7 ай бұрын
Super cool format!
@MunetsuguTakeno
@MunetsuguTakeno 7 ай бұрын
Against mill Progenitus, Legacy Weapon, Guile,Nexus of Fate and of course Darksteel/Blightsteel collosus are even more hilarious :) since they are If they would be put from anywhere its impossible to get rid of them unless they exile them from your hand or library :) a single copy prevents mill from winning unless they exile them from library or your hand (or discard you so you wont have 8 cards post draw) since yes..they also shuffle back if discarded and since its If they cant stop it. Obviously only works if they are in the format, but mill have to win in a traditional style agains them. I was actually running in my starter reanimation when I rotated back to magic Gaea's Blessing which also gaved hard time the mill strategy...the one time I met them...and I didnt called judge :D as technically thy broked rules there by flipping my entire library (withnout shortcut/consent) The workship though? Gorgeous. Absolutly lovely tech. The infinity mana? Even better :D you were supposed to destroy them! Not join them!
@dabo77777
@dabo77777 Ай бұрын
One of my first games of magic was my buddy playing a deck full of banned/vintage cards and milling my entire deck while also draining all of my health
@Atulack
@Atulack 7 ай бұрын
The secret sideboard tech is #1 for me. That would be so satisfying to do!
@ulamgexe7442
@ulamgexe7442 7 ай бұрын
I remember I've heard of surge node to also counter chalice of the void, but it costs 1 mana, so maybe that was for another deck or for vintage?
@golgariguy
@golgariguy 7 ай бұрын
The proliferate interaction with Throne of Geth is pretty cool. It doesn't happen as often, but Yawgmoth can do the same thing in current Modern :)
@uiuiuiseraph
@uiuiuiseraph 7 ай бұрын
I loved Furnace Dragon in the Affinity Mirror. :D
@pejman3
@pejman3 7 ай бұрын
I remeber counterting splinter twin by just leaving a spellskite in the open and most people not realizing that splinter twin is an aura thus a spell that targets and I could just pay 2 life to change the target from their exarch to my spellskite. Most people didn't even see it coming because in their mind spellskite is meant to prevent removal from other creatures or stuff like that. And once the splinter twin was on the spellskite even removing the spellskite would become hell as you could just make a copy and redirect removal to the copy. this was just so enjoyable
@naeryanX
@naeryanX 7 ай бұрын
In EDH, rakdos charm is also a great counter against triumph of the horde ;)
@mrsplays9817
@mrsplays9817 7 ай бұрын
I felt pretty smart today when someone went for the Thoracle win (in cedh) with counterspell backup and I flashed out a Platinum Angel -they couldn't counter a creature spell.
@Danielhuren
@Danielhuren 5 ай бұрын
that moment as a mill player i run 4 copys of leyline in my sideboard for the secound game because i know how much people hate mill and love to see the scoop when i drop it
@2rare2die26
@2rare2die26 7 ай бұрын
My buddy used to put edrazi in his deck to counter my mill deck. So I created a deck based around Consecrated Sphinx + Notion Thief + bazaar trader/spawnbroker the Notion Thief to your opponent. Most hilarious way to pseudo mill
@tylerstegman6846
@tylerstegman6846 7 ай бұрын
Before people started using rakdos charm, i was playing batwing brume for the same effect in my turbofog list
@ryantwomey3463
@ryantwomey3463 7 ай бұрын
Leyline of the void or rest in piece as a anti eldrazi in a mill deck seems like a good idea
@queengambrino4114
@queengambrino4114 7 ай бұрын
Not sure if you guys have been doing top 5s or top 10s about magc related stuff before but i really have to say I LOVE the format and hope you will delve into more anad do more similar videos !!! keep up the good work, thanks to you there is now another amateur mtg arena player out there that annos everyone with his horrible deck in ranked (that is me ^^) love you guys, cheers
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic 7 ай бұрын
We decided we'd try to do more of them this year as not to tire everyone with only gameplay content. And it's fun to do presentations to each other :) is there any specific top5 you'd like to see?
@HuwgeGrin
@HuwgeGrin 7 ай бұрын
Would love to see you guys commentate on infamous footage of players actually doing some clever stuff. Real examples of genius would hit harder still
@isaiedsouza2918
@isaiedsouza2918 7 ай бұрын
I was playing mill once(which I love) and my opponent was playing Gaea's Blessing in the main deck... I had to almost completely mill them out three times before they drew it
@robertgreen6499
@robertgreen6499 7 ай бұрын
what is funny i've either done each of these, or was on the receiving end of these techs. even the secret tech in the link. even the life gain one where are locals was type 1.5 (legacy) we had lots of cool decks and fun times, but i remember playing angel stompy with the life gain tech into are local psychotog player and i feel his mind exploded when it resolved. the number one I was doing that before twin was a thing because of token decks we had locally, but man when other found out you had to fear open black and red mana lol. We need more fun lists like these with great stories attached to them.
@MarkChaney-b8k
@MarkChaney-b8k 7 ай бұрын
See the twin videos made me miss that modern . Love crushing people with OG affinity . Tron . Or scape shift
@ArnaudJ
@ArnaudJ 7 ай бұрын
Back in 2010 era, my friends and i were playing Vintage (cards were still "accessible" at that time) and were not fond of Dredge. My best buddy talked about a sideboard that could be fun to have. We searched for the card (and that is now the best €€ investment of my life) and some around 2€, took one for each and then put them into our sideboard. A 2 mana artifact with the name: City in a bottle. It shut down Bazaar and we were happy playing it as a one-of. Soon after, Nature's Claim came out and that specific hate was no more cool until i looked recently at the 2023 price of that card 😮.
@heavyonthemustardplz
@heavyonthemustardplz 7 ай бұрын
I own a Words of Worship! Bought it from a store way back in the day because it seemed awesome
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