5 Keys to Breaking 85 (every time you play)

[@furiusstiles3214]

“If I miss it, it’s not going in.” Can’t argue with that.

[@carygson]

Reminds me of a study at Texas A&M where 90% of short putts didn’t go in.

[@GlitterFistsFish]

At least he isn't lying to us!

[@danstrauss4301]

Love the fact that every time he tries to prove a point he screws up. Fantastic!! I like this guy. He is absolutely right!

[@robertcourt8593]

A year down the line and you only have to read some of the comments to see why golfers, on average, aren't improving! If you're a hacker then doing the same as you've always done isn't going to make you any better. Put your ego aside and open your mind to the possibilities that maybe, just maybe, someone actually knows what they're talking about. All these tips are valid, with a little adjustment, depending on where your current skill level is. When I first saw a scoring method video I was shooting 110 plus. I was so bad I couldn't even keep a genuine score because of all the penalties and frustrations. I took all the scoring method basics to a new course in the middle of winter and shot 100 exactly and legitimately. It was so clear that my short game completely sucked, I practiced it and within a few months I was down to mid 90s, a year I was shooting low 90s and now I'm trying to break 85. Improvement in golf is dependent on how much you can play and practice and isn't linear due to the randomness of the game but if you work on the right things you can improve.

[@plusfour1]

Absolutely, I'm a 5 handicap and all these things hold true for me.

[@mortenfriis4688]

Good stuff! Thanks

[@andy.robinson]

Never considered the importance of pace over line before - that’s a penny drop moment. Thanks!

[@thescoringmethod]

Pace is the key the longer the putt the more important the pace.

[@ifth5hoefitz]

This is a great guide to scoring well on the course in general. Work on your game and swing during practice. When you're on the course - score as ruthlessly and efficiently as you can.

[@thescoringmethod]

Absolutely

[@mattmiller07]

Great video. I'm a 70s shooter but relearned several great principles

[@thescoringmethod]

Love it! Thanks Matt.

[@andrewsheppard2404]

Such a brilliant video, thanks so much. Went from 25 handicap to 10 in a year by applying many of these tips. Thanks again.

[@thescoringmethod]

Awesome to hear!!! That's great improvement Andrew.

[@ralphrico4995]

excellent advice! thank you. Started focusing on lag putting with minimal aiming and putting from fringe this year and the scores dropped dramatically! Also drove w 3 wood when my driver was getting re-gripped. One of the best rounds of the year. Hmmm too much to think about. ha.

[@NineEyeRon]

When this happens it’s a driver shaft type or length issue. Fix the driver shaft and it will be better than the 3 wood.

[@waynesorensen7071]

The trees are full of long hitters

[@Tang.Nguyen]

Bloody good, particularly the putt tips 👍

[@thescoringmethod]

Thank you!

[@robertp330]

Best golf video I've seen in years. Nice job. I have been thinking about using this strategy to stop shooting 91. I use 3 wood on the first 2 holes of my club for that reason, if I hit a bad shot it isn't out of bounds, I can still make a bogey.

[@thescoringmethod]

Lost balls are a scoring killer! Have to keep it in play.

[@jephfandingo1438]

This is all so obvious but our egos stop us from doing the right things! Thank you for this! 😀😀😀

[@majscrap2629]

Good advise. I'm stuck in the late 80's. Breaking 85 eludes me. I usually have 2 disasters that keep me out. That and bad driving accuracy.

[@edbowejr6130]

I’d work on driver, most of us don’t play enough to avoid a bad hole or two out of 18, I’d say embrace that unless you play a lot it will happen and try and get your fairway percentage up as that will help you on every hole

[@TheCount0212]

For me, the answer was a 12° driver. So much easier to hit fairways and have more carry distance ‼️

[@jameswirth3117]

Distance or dispersion? Golf course management. Chipping. Putting. Break 85? Not after an 8 minute video. Skill or lack thereof will determine the ability to break 85. But, it was a nicely done video!

[@charlessimons1692]

best golf advice on youtube ever!

[@thescoringmethod]

APPRECIATE it!

[@user_1664]

I hit a drive on fourteen yesterday , driver is my go to club on this hole , its a long hole for me and bogey is fine my second shot was a 5 wood a bit above my feet but i felt i could draw it onto the apron from there and keep short of the bunkers , i fatted it a little and it fell to the right hand rough 60 yrds short of the pin 75 yrds is an easy 56 degree for me and i was into a stiff wind so that was my shot , i stiffed it a foot from the flag for a very rare par . I very much doubt i would have made par from the apron on a three foot tiered green with flag at the back . I wont say it was an eye opener but i will say its proof that what you and a very few others say is true . Play within yourself and to your best advantage . Big thumbs up from me and this video is now in my pre round playlist 👍 I will just add that if i play too conservative and have a crap round its worst than having a bad round where ive taken some risks 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@thescoringmethod]

Great to hear your applying it to your game.

[@danarcotta1283]

My driver got me in trouble all day, everything else was working. I'm going to play a couple of practice rounds using a 5 wood or 3 wood off the tee. I've been pretty consistent with my driver until yesterday and absolutely forgot about this strategy. I used it in the past and it works

[@waynesorensen7071]

The pros often back off on a tight par 4 and use 3w. Driver should be fine on a wide open 4 or 5. I don’t think he’s saying never use your driver…especially if you can hit it fairly well?

[@Unplugged704]

Great video! These are exactly what I need to do!

[@alisonbennett3073]

Over reading lag putts have cost me plenty. Great points on all

[@mem30075]

Excellent points!! I use all of these except .... use the driver more than I should. My new 3H will be my safe fairway club on par 4s. As we all know if you're in the fairway you have a shot 😉

[@darthvader1402]

I like how you were demonstrating why you should putt over chipping and then chipped it in the hole. LOL. But I agree. I use my putter when ever I can. Even out of rough lies green side. Once its not too bad rough

[@golfsciencelab]

Great practical advice!

[@Nickat1ne707]

I shoot like 82 to 87 area, I feel like I definitely got these ideas down. I think I just need more consistency putting and knowing when to lob and when to maybe just bump with an iron.

[@thescoringmethod]

Have you tried the Short Game Challenge? See if that helps with your short game and knowing when to keep the ball on the ground vs in the air.

[@angrybuzzy]

Great advice, TSM.

[@jonathanmebane3782]

Solid very solid advice

[@edbowejr6130]

Here are my 5 tips to shoot under 85: 1) get lessons, a bad golfer will never strategize their way out of being a bad golfer (I’m talking to myself on this one 😂) 2) practice 50% of your time around the green, get familiar with clubs 7i and down around the green 3) practice 3ft putts, having confidence with the short putts adds confidence to the rest of the short game as it relieves the stress 4) keep it in bounds, aim far away from trees and OB as you can 5) avoid punch out shots and fairway bunkers - anything that doesn’t allow you to make a full shot toward the green Side note: if your short game is trash, 85 isn’t going to happen ever so that would be priority #1

[@hr-jd3sc]

great tips simplified, love it!

[@thescoringmethod]

Glad you liked it!!

[@Drewbrowne]

Great lesson

[@thescoringmethod]

Hope it helps you shoot consistently lower scores!

[@NeilWoodSales]

Excellent tips!!! Thank you

[@JockyT1]

Five great points! Thanks...

[@thescoringmethod]

Happy to hear they resonated with you!

[@matthewdudzik7673]

Such GREAT advice! I’ll use this all on my next round. Thank you!

[@John-ql4wo]

I've got down to 18 in 3 years , and I can't over emphasise enough how important the short game is. Anyone can bomb driver , no good if youre making doubles and worse. Pitching, wedges, putting, half swing irons is now my fascination

[@jordybeans2392]

If your are 18, stop giving advice

[@John-ql4wo]

@@jordybeans2392 If you haven't got anything positive to say don't say it at all

[@nathanatkins15t]

@@jordybeans2392 that’s nonsense. he is giving advice to people who for whom being an 18 is their intermediate goal.

[@waynesorensen7071]

What’s the difference between 18 and 6 handicap?

[@John-ql4wo]

@@waynesorensen7071 ? not a lot. Depends on ability and how you apply yourself

[@jbiz447]

Great video! Thanks.

[@timdench2583]

Good tips, thanks.

[@davidhester9716]

Thank you for this great advice.

[@thescoringmethod]

Glad it was helpful!

[@michaelmolitor7390]

best golf lesson ever @@thescoringmethod

[@FirstNameLastName-lu5nr]

The one key to playing better golf is playing more golf

[@michaelmolitor7390]

twice a week is a must for improevment, hands down.

[@mrscience1409]

The key to breaking 85 is to hit the ball less than 85 times per round.

[@thescoringmethod]

Mmmm I do agree.

[@risknerd1772]

Good advice, Yogi.

[@waynesorensen7071]

Mr science you should be called Captain Obvious

[@rogermounger6629]

Thank you,that's great advice..

[@thescoringmethod]

Glad it was helpful!

[@neltimothy]

I'm bad about #3....I chip way more often than I should, when I could putt it

[@MarcelinoJrArias]

Thanks for this

[@thescoringmethod]

Glad it helped!

[@frankb7449]

My Driver is my go to club off the tee - I use it on all but the short par 4s and 5s... I dont hit a 3 wood or hybrid any straighter than a driver, so why give up distance off the tee? I think it's because the club face of the driver is so much larger, so I have a greater margin for error. My 3 wood face is about half the size, so more room to screw it up, and i give up 20-30yds

[@jordybeans2392]

Exactly!! If you hit your driver bad, I’ll bet you hit those fairway woods pretty nasty too. Distance matters! Plus it’s more fun to hit the big stick & you hopefully play golf cause it’s fun.

[@johnnorth9514]

Absolutely. My driver is no less unreliable than any other club off the tee and is slightly longer, so is my go to club from all tees, including many par 3s.

[@waynesorensen7071]

Lol Say what?

[@robertcourt8593]

This is where strokes gained apps come in handy. It quantifies a shot beyond our emotional response. You might well be best with a driver off every tee but there have been world class golfers who've been proven that what they thought they did isn't what they actually did.

[@zahimiibrahim3602]

It's all about course management and being conservative. We all know this but it's more fun to hit driver. Golfers are eternal optimists off the tee😅

[@davehill5539]

Putting on from the fringe - have you seen the fringe at my course ?😅

[@thescoringmethod]

🤣 if it’s Bermuda or thick brass around the fringe, this is where you definitely want to start using a hybrid as it will loft without you having to chip the ball. Break the friction and enable you to feel like it’s a putt.

[@davehill5539]

@@thescoringmethod oh - you’re assuming we have grass - I’ll look for some and let you know 😂

[@thea-team6439]

The key to breaking 85? Getting 84.

[@davidhealy2772]

Or only play 9 holes. 😂

[@goldtigre4979]

Here’s the major issue- I can’t break 100 because I have no idea what I’m doing with any of my irons. Might start playing with putter and woods only!

[@woodencanoes9362]

Great! Thank you b

[@thescoringmethod]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@edgarmartien2929]

Straightest driver in the history of the PGA Tour only hit 80% of the fairways. Tour data shows 3 fairway metal to be the same or slightly better. Great strategies here to help mid/high handicaps

[@thescoringmethod]

Thanks Edgar!

[@waynesorensen7071]

Straightest driver is usually the shortest driver too ,-and never won a tournament!

[@glennmorris6071]

It's like you made this video for me.

[@gcoffey223]

If you can use the flat stick... use it

[@PhilbyFavourites]

So you can get me from 109 to 85…… That’s so far apart I can’t even do the math….

[@PAULWILLIAMSONGOLF]

Apply everything in the video over the next couple of months and see what happens. You may be surprised

[@IainDuncan-bf5pr]

sound advice that

[@jhoanmarrero3381]

You forgot to mention about taking our time between shots.

[@tonyrichardson7322]

2 and 3 are great tips...

[@garyroberts3859]

You have got no idea what the average golfer is capable of. In my prime 1963-1983 I won 7 club championships, 3 district Championships and a VGL championship. Now at 78 I can’t reach par 4’s over 360m. In 2, so that effectively makes them par 5’s . Most courses would have at least 6 par 4 holes that length, making par for me effectively 78…breaking 85 is all about the length you can hit the ball. If you can’t hit it 200m. Breaking 85 on a par 72 course is not really possible. I can only hit the ball about 170m. Now.

[@waynesorensen7071]

Have you upgraded your equipment and ball lately?

[@garyroberts3859]

@@waynesorensen7071 I bought a second hand driver in 2021 which I’m really pleased with… 170-180m. And a new lofted rescue which goes really well about 130m. The rest of my clubs are 18 years old. I did give the game away in 2010 I was playing off 6 then at age 66, so I could afford to travel overseas. I took it up again in 2021 and discovered I had lost about 50m with my driver. I’m only playing when I go to the country for a week or more so not regular and no practice anymore. Most of my scores now are between 85-90 with a few under and a few over.

[@tonybarnes1013]

Yoga , Gym, strength training Anything is possible

[@DaveDawson666]

When you can just "hit the ball generally where you intend to hit it", everything else is easy.

[@rogermounger6629]

I like my 1 iron.

[@danielg8706]

This is me

[@risknerd1772]

Video would have been much better without the background equipment noise

[@IIISWILIII]

Unless you're a single digit handicap, you've got no business gaming a lob wedge

[@rogermounger6629]

I hate any kind of wedge..

[@IIrandhandleII]

Tip #1 don't shank more than half your shots

[@thescoringmethod]

Also very helpful 😂

[@garyroberts3859]

A chip and a putt is a simple par…not for people shooting 90’s…you spent too much time in your pro shop.

[@richardharp2810]

stop saying "go ahead" its an Americanism and I hate it

[@thescoringmethod]

Any suggestions on what to replace it with?

[@garethhillard9923]

Why not just spend that time working on the driver?

[@thescoringmethod]

That’s what every one has been doing for years and this video is to show them now that working on driver does not work how to shoot lower scores.

[@jordybeans2392]

You want me to hit 80% of fairways even though tour pros only average 70%. So don’t hit my driver until it’s my go to club🥴Seriously wtf are you saying here?

[@jordybeans2392]

Being conservative tells your brain to be careful. You are telling yourself you will fail. No risk it No biscuit!

[@garyroberts3859]

You’re a golf pro…well not a very good one. ..you need to watch some golfers who score 90. Then you might understand what their limitations are.

[@dougm659]

Multiple statements of the bleeding obvious….🙄

[@garyroberts3859]

You’re a dreamer…players that are shooting 90.s aren’t going to keep 8 out of 10: tee shots on the fairway. Then you’ve got them trying to hit the green . They miss most greens and they aren’t great chippers…you’re a dreamer

[@lloydunett206]

It's a bit obvious really isn't it ?

[@lloydunett206]

Easiest way to break 85 is just to play 9 holes.