💥5 Myths bout Metal Bass! - The Real Reason You Waste Money On Gear! (Metal Bass Monday Ep.69)

[@TheBeardofDOOM]

Murderface bass solo reigns supreme to pick and fingerstyle

[@vladv5126]

He's what they call a prick player

[@michaelb.42112]

Murderface RULES !!!

[@themigwel6185]

This is really eyes opening for someone like me who’s still a noob who loves looking at gear.

[@tonycarel1785]

Thank you Rodney!! Someone who isn't afraid to speak the TRUTH about gear and technique. I honestly spend more time playing and dialing in the sound I want than ever buying new gear. Not because I can't because I simply enjoy what I have and know how to use it.

[@RodneyMcG]

Good to hear, Tony. It will serve you well on the long run.

[@GREW50ME_Gaming]

Flotsam and Jetsam does not have one bad album!

[@RodneyMcG]

Fact

[@vladv5126]

About the tapping thing: I naturally started tapping with my middle finger because I play with a pick so it seemed like the most natural thing to do without having to do any weird movements like changing my grip on the pick.

[@RodneyMcG]

Well done, sir!

[@TheSonsofHorusx]

Nice man, I remember seeing an instructional of Reb Beach (guitar player for winger, go ahead hate me lol) and he was saying to use your middle for tapping to for your same reason. Now if you played in winger or are a human level player, makes all the sense in the world. But, if you play in say Braindrill, you'd need to borrow fingers and grow some tentacles for that level of tappage

[@vladv5126]

@@TheSonsofHorusx lol why would I hate? Everyone is free to listen to whatever they want, it's all good. But nah, I only tap occasionally, it's definitely only like 25% of my playing if even that. But when I do need more, I just use my middle and ring finger or even the pick to tap sideways. Whatever gets the job done in the most efficient way for me personally.

[@RodneyMcG]

Are you implying my tentacles aren't up to the task?

[@vladv5126]

@@RodneyMcG thank you! Keep pushing with this channel, the lack of BS on here is honestly super refreshing

[@adamtrammel6525]

Great video! I've been playing bass for about 3.5 years and I've went through a TON of gear trying to find "my sound." You really hit the nail. I'm still learning and experimenting and will definitely take what you said to heart.

[@RodneyMcG]

I hope it helps you find that bass tone north star.

[@ickywyrmwood1993]

I didnt really know about much when I started about 1.5 years ago. So everything is new. I did assume that there was a "right" instrument for low tuning and "useful" B strings. You have cured a lot of what ailed me then. You have spoken about setup/action. Pickups and instrument construction differences. You have an opinion on "string through body" construction. String construction differences (i.e. stainless/nickle, round core/hex core). I have learned so much by joining this community. The wealth of knowledge is amazing and truly appreciated. I have had a lot of my infantile notions challenged. For which, I am grateful. Thanks again for your videos and community. This channel didnt build itself, and I am thankful you did the heavy lifting to launch and maintain it. Cheers!

[@RodneyMcG]

Just trying to spread some wealth and get cool friends such as yourself to hang with!

[@newsnakerevival6776]

For jazz bass example: Geddy Lee

[@coveryourears3851]

You catch me slipping a good bit with your humor, I never expect it. Good episode

[@WizardOfArc]

Lowering the action on my Rick totally changed its playability

[@GillRigged]

Just wanna say that this channel has become my absolute favorite channel. Thanks bassic common sense, Rodney! 🤘

[@RodneyMcG]

You're too kind, sir. Glad to have you on board!

[@GillRigged]

@@RodneyMcG still waiting for my Rodney McGnad's Manscaping trimmer to arrive in the mail tho 😂

[@RodneyMcG]

I just rub round wound stainless steel strings across my chest once a week. Economical and problem solved!

[@t.j.meechan682]

I completely agree with you on your point about going down the tone rabbit hole. I've probably spent more time researching new gear, and spent more money on this pedal or that pedal than actually experimenting with the gear i already have. New bass looks awesome as well. Another great video Sir.

[@RodneyMcG]

It's tempting to get the new sparkly, but when you realize you already own it under a different label, the answer becomes clear. Thanks for the props on the bass!

[@mixc8]

Great point Rodney an instrument is an instrument. I own a recording studio with over 50 guitars and basses. I have this converstation all the time. I recently started producing Metal and I have folks come in with Fenders, Ibanez, Alembics, Schecter, Music Man etc to play Metal . It's all about the player and getting the right tone :) And great point about strings and setups! That's why I started keeping guitars and basses in my studio because a lot of times folks come in with axes that are not setup correctly or with old strings. Also tell you a little secert a lot of the times I will have bass player use the P-Bass :) It's just cuts through mix like butter and I have a lot of high end producer and engineer friends who all keep a P-Bass on hand at their studio, they prefer a P-Bass when possible. Also let me add this as and engineer, it's also about your EQ and Compression skills as well that help bring out the tone and character in an instrument . A good engineer knows how to a good tone. out of an instrument. Let me give you an example many times I may have an artist come in who has not changed their strings in years and refuses to change them because they love their tone, then it's my job as a skilled engineer to make that instrument sound it's best.

[@michaelb.42112]

FUCK YES, Rod, 9:20, new Cirrus !!!! I KNEW you'd mention Steve Harris. When we just did our new CD, I was BARELY touching the strings for all the songs. I let the amp and technology do all the heavy lifting. I do all my set ups and it took me years to "get it". It's all about the set up. That's why Peavey is the top shelf, and my SIRE P7 is also top shelf. My strings BARELY touch the board. Maybe a few mm at the most ?

[@RodneyMcG]

Sounds like we use a similar setup. I played a Sire once, nice bass.

[@michaelb.42112]

@@RodneyMcG For sure, but I'm 95% Peavey. I own some others, too, but they don't get much play. I need to think about that.

[@javiacustico]

the little red outline frame in the thumbnail made me think i already saw this video.. take that in count for future uploads, keep the good content and hard love coming!

[@RodneyMcG]

Thanks for the note!

[@metalmetalian6265]

Awesome advice about the part where you used the whole Steve Harrison example, I will take heed to that my friend. Also just subscribed 🤘and only watched 2 of your videos.... I just like what I hear from you, good stuff bro 🙏

[@RodneyMcG]

Thanks a lot, and welcome aboard!

[@jasond3686]

Thanks for all the great info and perspective you give for aspiring bassists...and nice shirt! Peace from Alaska!

[@RodneyMcG]

Thanks Jason! Actually found the coffee and shirt while I was in Alaska!

[@matthewjayjack8143]

One of my favorite coffees, found it when I was stationed up there near 20 years ago and rediscovered it when we visited a few years back. Now I order it online occasionally. Tasty!

[@svtbass]

I Love those Peavey Cirrus basses.. Made well , they sound great.. I actually saw a Duran Duran show years ago. My friend was on eth crew and I went to see it.. . John was using a Cirrus. I have to say it was one of the BEST sounding Live Bass mixes that I have ever heard in a live situation.. Bottom, Top, Punch, audible, Clear yet some grit.. But he also played really well. And thats where it all starts

[@RodneyMcG]

Yeah, i've become a big fan. If you want some really interesting info on how it got started and how it ended up with John, check out the interview i did with Rudy Sarzo.

[@svtbass]

@@RodneyMcG Yes I watched that Interview with Rudy. It was done very well Thank you for sharing all of this .. Great Channel. Good info for ALL players. Not only metal .. I am learning so much from your stuff. And I don't really do metal at all.. But I LOVE IT ..

[@melaronin9173]

Glad to hear the team up with Alf!

[@RodneyMcG]

Yeah, it will be cool. The last series i did with him went really well.

[@Bassdriver]

Problem is, I've found my sound are Wal basses. Which I cannot afford and I don't think I ever will. But yeah, they have THE sound I hear in my head.

[@RodneyMcG]

Wal is great, but there is no magic thing that only one bass can attain. Getting really close is possible if you study the sound and get a combination of pieces that create it. I've gotten pretty close with EMG and sansamp

[@glennbergevin7726]

I'm in the same boat, but an ATK through B7K or X7 does great.

[@richarddial6403]

there isn't words to describe how much I miss metal bass Monday! we all hate Modays! while I was eating lunch I always looked forward to another wise bullshit day Rodney's take on whatever...Miss it, Bring It Back!

[@firemedic105ns]

I so want a nice Peavey like that. I finally got the sound set up that I had asked about on your FB. Thank you for the quick word of guidance.

[@RodneyMcG]

I hope it helped. BTW - there are 3 cirrus on reverb right now

[@firemedic105ns]

@@RodneyMcG it helped a lot. I have a Jackson to get ahead of my getting the Cirrus but believe me it has some money set aside for it already lol

[@frederickdoyon]

Conner Green from haken was plucking the string so lightly but he was the cleanest bassist I saw. Could hear every notes so well.

[@RodneyMcG]

Control beats shithammering every time!

[@johangericke1492]

Alex Webster seems like he hammers a bass too, but he's probably light as a feather.

[@RodneyMcG]

Yeah, it can be a bit of a visual illusion to see a lot of movement and assume there's a lot of force behind it

[@johangericke1492]

@@RodneyMcG great video, man. I'm pretty new to this, and this tapping section just made it click for me. It is a nice axiom to keep; let the amp do the work. There's no need to pluck hard and hammering the frets makes you slower. Could have started planning that next note while you were busy exerting needless force.

[@RodneyMcG]

Exactly. Well said

[@straightface60]

I like your approach to putting it across as a working musician .

[@RodneyMcG]

Thanks, Joseph

[@Gorlung]

I am a fan of your approaches and conclusions, Rodney

[@RodneyMcG]

Thank you!

[@ickywyrmwood1993]

So.. I grabbed a DSM DriveMaker. I think that piece of gear is a bit different. He made that to mess with a lot drives and effects. I am ignorant, so I can't unpack how different it is. But I am in wonder with how many different things that pedal can do. I am looking forward to learning more so I can use it more/better'er.

[@RodneyMcG]

It's a great unit. A lot of fun

[@rockdancetheatre4258]

Ha! So awesome! Finally someone that tells it how it is. First learn to play, understand your technique level and what you want to gain, then colour it with all special gear and tricks you want. If you need to. I'm a simple gal. Pick to low string action, to light gage, to metal, no pedal effects ! 😎🤘 Peace!

[@RodneyMcG]

Straight to the point!

[@timtapp5931]

You can also get unique sounds with finger style with alittle bit of length on nails like Geddy Lee, Steve Harris, etc. Oh! And change the strings regularly to keep a brighter tone too! It really does come down to just spending time with your instrument(s) to figure out the story musically you want to tell.

[@RodneyMcG]

Great tip!

[@GodsTruthMinistries]

The first 9 minutes Rodney was more ego-smashing and tone nerd busting than a pirate raiding a village. I think he stepped on everyone's toes or former toes and a lot of corporate heads who built boutique pedal xxy497wb5......or whatever is the latest tone nerd's dream. We've ALL been there and me included. This was some of the most "sound advice" (pun intended) on any such channel. And you thought your school counselor was tough...LOL! Can everyone say, "Thank you may I have another, sir?!!" Great job Rodney!

[@RodneyMcG]

😂😂😂🤘 We've all been there for sure. I love the David Ellefson quote "Experience is what you get when you didn't get what you wanted"

[@GodsTruthMinistries]

@@RodneyMcG 😁👍

[@generatorofheavy7761]

Been saying all this for some time now, but no one listens. Glad I’m not the only one! Lol!

[@jimmyjam5358]

Well done brother. On a bass set to E, how low can you tune before you have to make altercations?

[@RodneyMcG]

Depends on how stable the neck is, string tension, etc. I would just go for what you want and see what happens. Any adjustments should be pretty minor if you are using the same strings

[@bassimprovjams3772]

All good topics brother!

[@stevejay5503]

I have an SVT-7 with a Markbass 4x10. The only extras I use are the Dug Pinnick pedal and an early 90s Boss chorus pedal. And I agree with your opinions on presets. I don't bother with them. I dig around until I find the sweet spot for my sound.

[@RodneyMcG]

"My sound" EXACTLY!

[@EnsBass]

This is quickly becoming the most fantastic (metal) bass related channel on the interwebz ! \m/

[@RodneyMcG]

Wow, thanks!🤘

[@seanreyes5126]

Great episode good sir! Looking forward to the podcast with Whichbass. Both your channels have been great to see grow In last two years.

[@RodneyMcG]

Should be fun!

[@Blakeadam52]

I like buying instruments because im a bit of a collector, but youve given me good ideas on how to help me grow my collection not only in a looks way, but also in an application way as well! 😎

[@Blakeadam52]

I generally dont resell though, i just like to keep em all. Thank god i dont have this problem.

[@Blakeadam52]

I keep touching back on this comment as im watching, i have ZERO pedals, and this video is exactly why, because i never know whats good or not, and id rather spend bigger money on instruments vs pedals, so stoked on the overdrive pedal comparison part of this vid.

[@RodneyMcG]

Yeah, it's a great head check about where the market really is.

[@Andyanddiana467]

Sometimes it's tough to know what you want, soundwise, though; also, there's always that disappointment you get when what sounded awesome in your bedroom completely disappears in the band mix. I recently picked up a YYZ pedal; wish me luck!

[@RodneyMcG]

Yep, you always have to develop your sound in context, never solo. If you haven't seen it I've done a couple videos on that. The yyz is a great choice, good luck!

[@markusorth5450]

That's mostly the studio guys and/or guitar players screwing you.

[@ricka5959]

I want want one badly, my band plays YYZ, but I'm concrned about the same thing. I don't want to add another drive pedal to my collection that I can't use. Please let us know how you like it, I think this pedal might be a winner.

[@RodneyMcG]

@@ricka5959 I did a demo and review of the YYZ on the channel

[@jackshittle]

I agree 100%. Every time I see a "signature model" I think to myself "Well on that persons last 12 albums since the 80's he didn't have 'signature' pickups - so the tone I love from all those albums was from something (bass, amp, pups etc.) that already existed way back then." For example; I've been listening to Robert Trujillo play since around 1990 with ST, Infectious Grooves, Metallica. I personally think his sound is great. But now I see there is a Robert Trujillo signature set of EMG Jazz pups - which from what I've been told, are just the JA set or the JAX set with different covers on them. Basically every sound I dig comes from gear that's 20-60 years old, not to say though that any of the new stuff isn't good. But all my hero's used what they had available way back when.

[@RodneyMcG]

100% facts!

[@peterbarea512]

Can be the exception of the rule, but the EMG Geezer Butler P Bass pickup is amazing, different of the EMG PHZ. Its Alnico 5 magnets and passive, and the tone is great, very vintage p bass tone, high output, and no hum even with distortion. I totally recommend this pickup, is unique in the EMG arsenal.

[@-whiskey-4134]

Some of my pedals are as low as 30 bucks and do the job just as well as as the over prices ones. Even my noise gate pedal what around 20 bucks…gets the job done just fine. I only have one pedal above 300 bucks, and I realized, with the right EQ, my amp and free plug in on my PC will give me the same sound as the pedal lmao I know the sound I like and it’s not hard to dial in once I know what I’m looking for. Idc about buying anymore gear. I have my amp and like 5 pedals. All works for me and I know how I like them. I even mark them and color coat the ticks with permanent markers. For this sound, put the knobs on red, for that sound, put em on the blue ticks, etc.

[@hintz9173]

I know its all subjective, but ive had great luck tapping with both index and middle fingers: where I move the middle behind the index(like Sheehan does) to get as much volume and heft behind it as possible. Of course, this technique doesnt work so well when you do the Stu Hamm style tapping. Either way, I love these vids!! Wish this stuff was around when I was a beginner!!

[@davidlovellbass4761]

I’ve been changing a lot up over the last year, new bass, new pedal combination, tried to play with a pick. Two gigs in I tried to downsize from an amp to a preamp and the complements stopped. I forgot the golden rule that the player plays the gear not the other way round. Now I have to carry a 70lb amp to every gig and use a pair of load boxes because it’s all valve but I guess that’s suffering for my art 😂

[@RodneyMcG]

You always will, one way or another 😂

[@xriswolf78]

Rodny... one question hehe. I have that kind of 70s prog tone. Squire, Rutherford, Glascock. What is better the geddy or harris tech 21?

[@RodneyMcG]

Geddy, defintely

[@xriswolf78]

@@RodneyMcG Nice one

[@jameshawkins6760]

Another great video Rodney. I really enjoy hearing you talk about gimmicks and busting silly trends. I'm currently redefining my sound and have found a good metal tone but now I'm finding it difficult to capture a good clean, classic tone. I have three modern basses with soap bar pickups. One with an EMG-PX and EMG-JX setup. Any tips on how I can dial in that classic sort of P-bass (or P/J) bass tone?

[@RodneyMcG]

Depends on what you call classic. That's a big area.

[@jameshawkins6760]

@@RodneyMcG Fair point. I'm talking about a smooth jazz sound. It's not a big deal so forget I mentioned it. There's plenty of stuff out there discussing this sort of setup. Thanks Rodney.

[@RodneyMcG]

@@jameshawkins6760 NO worries. The best advice i can give, is start from the bottom, don't work backwards. Listen to your bass direct, no processing. Then ask - what is this missing? Then look for gear that delivers the enhancement you want.

[@Gorlung]

"...harmonics only whale can hear...")))) i'm enchanted by the phrase

[@bassimprovjams3772]

What do you think about darkglass products? I'm new to your channel I really enjoy it, so I apologize if I leave a lot of comments lol

[@RodneyMcG]

It's all good, that's what the comments are for! Darkglass isn't my sound. Nothing against them. I do think people tend to use them for the same sound all the time and it gets tiring

[@rockereivanivan]

That's happened to me, trying to search for an ampeg classic tube tone without having to buy an ampeg xD and I've avoided buying a sansamp and when I heard your video about stacking preamps, man I heard that tone and that's when I knew I had to get one xD

[@RodneyMcG]

Money well spent, and money well saved!

[@danielpaquet3963]

your right Korg AX100G found in the trash I love this effects board paid nothing for it have been using it for like 30 years it seems ran thru a Peavey 212 Amp... Dean and Jackson guitars...

[@RodneyMcG]

If it works, it works!

[@stevenhirsekorn3444]

I play big ridiculous strings because I prefer the way they feel. My action is about a 16th of an inch off the frets on my fretted bass and on my fretless basses i keep it super low. I use kalium hybrid strings and the reason i like them is the windings on the strings themselves are larger than normal especially on the low b string (158 gauge) so they have less winding cycles on them and they taper at the bridge. it gives them a unique feel where they have a very solid amount of tension but you can still really bend the string so its tight but flexible in a good way. And they last a reaaaaaaaally long time without losing their characteristic sound. Ive had the same set on my esp 5 string bass and they are a little less bright than when i first got them but not by much and they are still quite bright.

[@RodneyMcG]

So you're saying you put time and research into your choices? HERESY!!!

[@stevenhirsekorn3444]

@@RodneyMcG well it was more being broke and having other things to spend money on than strings at the time and they had the gauges i wanted so i just didnt change them. i reckon its been at least 3 years since i put those strings on and they still sound good. Kalium make great strings but they are pretty shady to work with tbh. Its hard to find strings that sound that good and also feel that satisfying to play on so i just make sure they actually send me my strings . I just keep them on until i dont like the sound anymore and make sure i slack them off and pop them against the frets to get most of the dirt off every once in a while and clean them with rubbing alcahol or aqua velva aftershave if im feeling fancy to degrime them. I just tried stuff and spent hours in my local music store until i found what i really wanted. Carvin pro bass 300 amp heads, kalium strings, duncan spb2 pickups on 4 strings, emg p5ax 18v on 5 strings, crate 2x15 cabinet, boss ge7 and joyo copy of an mxr super comp. I dont need more than that and im content with the sound so theres that

[@iericnierman]

Great video

[@EJSjjh]

I have the problem of acquiring a bunch of different basses and gear. How can I figure out the sound that I want? There are bass players I hear that I've tried to emulate because I want to sound like them but I can never get very close. I feel like if I learned how to sound like the bass players I enjoy I'd be able to better figure out how I want to sound.

[@RodneyMcG]

I think best of all would be zero in on exactly what YOU sound like. Then pursue that passionately. I love many players tones, but they wouldn't all be right for me. Then, you can start learning EQ, and understanding what gets the elements of the tone you really want and start clearing the fog a bit. I would reccomend watching my video on getting Eddie Jacksons tone for some approaches to finding out what things make up a personal tone. Good luck.

[@Bobby_Uterus]

As one of those guys that used custom giant gauged strings, mile high action, beat the shit out of my bass and developed tendonitis in my right wrist. I can say that what Mr. Rodney is preaching here is the absolute truth! Went from 115 - 55 to 105- 45 string size on a 4 string and lowered the action considerably. Suddenly I had that clank, my wrist wasn't hurting as bad and my playing stamina almost doubled. I realized I had been working against the bass for a long time and not with it. Finally settled on 100 - 40 string size and have bee working on lightening up my touch a bit. Rodney clearly knows his shit. I don't think I'm going to take online bass advise from anyone else going forward. These tips and the compressor in compressor out signal chain tips have made a big difference in my sound and playing, all for the better. Forever in your debt Rodney!

[@RodneyMcG]

Glad I could be of help!

[@frederickdoyon]

Did you bought this peavey on reverb? Was eyeing her haha

[@RodneyMcG]

No, I found it from a seller in Canada

[@frederickdoyon]

@@RodneyMcG oh should have opened my eyes more since I'm already in Canada lol

[@flv2358]

Quality stuff, you've just stopped me from selling my amp :D

[@RodneyMcG]

Victory!

[@peterbarea512]

Totally agree on your opinion on the 4th myth. Every bass can do metal for sure. I prefer my passive MIM Fender Precision over my Warwick Corvette $$, suits better my tone, I tend to upper the mids, the neeck is perfect for me and love the that character the P bass has in his particular sound. Don´t get me wrong the Corvette $$ is a beast, but P bass for life man. Personally recommend Stainless Steel strings, and with fingers better a heavy gauge. That zing and bright sound is more agressive and better suited for distortion. My favourites are DR DDT 115-55, I tune in C# standard and the tension is perfect for me, not loose strings at all. And the tone is very good, the bass growls even with cleans

[@RodneyMcG]

It is hard to get around the fact that aP bass is a can't miss for rock. It just doesn't fail.

[@garrydhintz8017]

I like his take on bass and guitar effects and tone. I know the sound I love and I have my gear that I have dialed to me but I know I can get a cool tone out of almost any decent gear. AND DAMN the Peavey cirrus is really cool!!!! I've always thought they were underrated bad ass basses.

[@RodneyMcG]

You are right on both counts! 😉

[@federicovidal1156]

Great episode Rodney !! It's unbelievable the amount of bs out there , i heard all the ones you mentioned and more 🤦 Looking forward for the next guest 😁👌 keep this great channel alive

[@RodneyMcG]

Much appreciated Federico!

[@MirridonOnslaught]

Its good to have people buy new gear, it helps push sales for the companies... st least that's the logic

[@christophebrebion760]

Aha how much hate are you getting on a regular basis? 🤣 it always baffled me that almost every body seem to overlook the Tom Morello approach:"that's my gear, whatever it is.. Now let's get creative! " You can't watch a bass related video on KZbin anymore without seeing the darkglass logo everywhere... To circle back on new pedals generally being upgraded clones of (cheaper) classics, check out the shoutout JHS made comparing boss and Behringer... Interesting if you're on a budget, just saying. As usual, keep it up, I'm learning so much from your videos, and you're so entertaining sir! Kuddos🤘🤘

[@RodneyMcG]

Thankully, not much. A few trolls, but it's been pretty good. It hink if you say the truth for the sake of truth, not just to be clikc bait, most people will respect it, or disagree politely. Glad you're enjoying the channel, thanks for hanging out.

[@TheSonsofHorusx]

Lest we forget about the Miku pedal tho

[@bassimprovjams3772]

Could you get Ryan martinie for an interview?

[@RodneyMcG]

I'll see what i can do

[@pleasurementgui]

“Subharmonics that only whales can hear!” 🤣🤣🤣

[@Jagdpz5]

I'll add another reason for Gear Acquisition Syndrome. You haven't changed your strings since last Ice age. Frustrated with your sound you believe that this new Darkglass pedal is the soulution when all you really have to do is to change strings. And when you buy it, it doesn't sound like in the demos so you sell it in search for a new wonder box.

[@RodneyMcG]

Holy crap! A lot of Truth in that!

[@TheBeardofDOOM]

Nolly’s lawyers will be in touch

[@iamgribs]

This is true, just popped on a new set of DRs. Night and day with tone, and playability also improved.

[@markusorth5450]

[Mark Mendoza has entered the chat] ;)

[@RodneyMcG]

😂😂😂

[@al76groovekeeper]

I miss my middle

[@talesfromthetoiletseat8295]

Tone wise: I like the sound of a P hate the look of P bass pickups. They are not symmetrical and that makes the OCD go bonkers. Lol I know stupid I have a cheap P rip off bass so it does not keep me from playing it. It’s a visual thing I do want to mess with a bass with two Ps. I know it been done before but it’s not common (from what I can tell) I may some day make that cheap P an experiment bass. Who knows pickup placement and stuff is where I get kind of werid. It is to me a good place to waste money and not know anything I can’t EQ worth shit. I agree there is nothing new under the sun. This applies to a lot of stuff not just music. Lol

[@RodneyMcG]

I use Double P all the time. Been using it for a long time. Crazy good tone.

[@giannibiancocircus]

👍

[@Powerserg-dx5kk]

I've been down sizing and using my cash on my ink lol but I'm forcing myself to use like 3 pieces of gear and try to learn how to use it well. No magic box or bass your right again use your ears and learn to EQ find your sound and practice your ass off

[@RodneyMcG]

Exactly!

[@mattrodela2030]

Got tired of being a bass gear marketing victim. Took a pro's advice and began to practice electric bass acoustically, with a metronome. Your head, ears and hands will come together and your personal sound will surface. Be patient.

[@TheSubstrance]

So you're saying there's no such thing as a 'best bass for metal"? 🥺🥺

[@RodneyMcG]

You heard me!!😂

[@gregorygalyan3670]

I guess I assumed that everybody was just buying multi effects pedals nowadays. I love the zoom b3n, I can sound like Justin chancellor and switch to Tim Commerford with a click. My buddy bought the boss multi effects pedal that’s 250 bucks for guitar after he saw what my zoom pedal. He text me sound clips of him finding the acid bath sound and dime bag Darrell sound with his guitar so I’d say he is happy as well. It makes me wonder How many people just use these multi effects pedals That can emulate amps and cabinets as well.

[@RodneyMcG]

More than you might think.

[@gregorygalyan3670]

I’m not trying to be a comment hog but after hearing Tom Morello and a few other notable guitarist say that they spent way too much time tone chasing. Tom Morello said he realize he was spending way too much time town chasing and not writing music and just playing. Tom said that one day he just said I am going to deal with the gear I have now put marks on his amp and just started playing music. If Tom Morello continue tone chasing we may never have had the same rage against the machine. I have heard the story on rig rundown so many times that they gave up tone chasing and that’s when the magic happened

[@RodneyMcG]

Yup. It is also a psychological thing. People do it to procrastinate while thinking they are doing something that has purpose.