5 Ships that Mysteriously Vanished on the Great Lakes

[@BigOldBoats]

Thank you for watching! What's your favorite Great Lakes mystery?

[@pedenharley6266]

Hmm, does “How did the Brits and Americans manage to build huge warships on Lake Ontario in the War of 1812?” count as a Great Lakes mystery question?

[@RF24]

The rouse Simmons Christmas tree ship always sticks in my mind

[@zacharypotvin6579]

Snow Snakes

[@OfftheWallTales]

I just find it interesting that essentially all shipwrecks ended in 1993. The only outlier is one glass bottomed pleasure cruise that sank and killed two. But even that happened in 2000. I wonder why in the past 30 years, there’s only been one wreck which was a pleasure cruise and not even a large ship, when before that there were so many. Did shipping by boat across the lakes stop? Or are there new measures in place to protect them? Just seeing multiple every decade and then hearing no cargo ships sank since 1993, and no other accidents have happened in 23 years. It’s odd to me without knowing why. I’m assuming shipping slowed down and now it’s by plane. But surely some shipping still takes place?

[@Mavisdundundunnnmanston]

Probably the Fitzgerald, because Gordon Lightfoot gets (happily) stuck in my head during any of your great lakes videos. I'm sure you also love the song. Everyone following this channel probably also loves the song.

[@NealBones]

Honey wake up! New Big Old Boats dropped!

[@jamesfracasse8178]

Thanks darling, bring up cereal 🥣 and glass of juice 🥤 for me in bed 🛏️ 1:06

[@cristiancristi9384]

For some weird reason as soon as I opened the KZbin app this morning , youtube sent me a pop-up message to evaluate this comment (???) And to rate it from "horrible" to "excellent".... I rated it as excellent and then they sent me another message to check why "on earth" 😆 I would consider to have this opinion about it.... I checked "it shows appreciation to the video creator" .... Well this is obvious but it baffles my mind why youtube would investigate this comment that has nothing "strange" or "unusual" in it....

[@revived1674]

Babe wake up, another copy and pasted comment

[@mauriceclark4870]

The shop sinkings seem too take all of the crews with them not many survivers. Seems very hazardous occupation to me

[@NealBones]

@Revived Darling go to bed. You just ratioed yourselves

[@Outdoor_Carnivore]

I love the fact that you cover all ships of the world. It is great learning about the great ocean liners, but it is also refreshing to learn about the lake boats that most of the world knows nothing about.

[@tinypoolmodelshipyard]

Well said 🎉🎉

[@thejudgmentalcat]

I swam on Lake Superior in the mid-70's in July and was amazed how cold it was even though temps were in the mid-80's. I can't imagine what a winter storm would feel like. RIP to all victims of the Lakes ❤

[@johncmitchell4941]

I swam in Lake Michigan on a Chicago beach in the '60s in July. The sand burned our bare feet. I got as far out as to waist deep for just a minute or so (brrrr) and spent the rest of the trip sitting on a towel getting a sunburn. btw, all but lake Erie are topographically literal soup bowls. Storms and rogue waves can confound the most seaworthy vessel.

[@mimib8032]

The average surface temp of Superior is about 45 degrees, even mid summer. I made it up to my ankles before noping out.

[@razy7609]

@@johncmitchell4941 By soup bowls do you just mean uniform?

[@johncmitchell4941]

@@razy7609 Yes somewhat uniformly steep as one gets away from shore. Rare exceptions include much of lake Erie, Lake Huron's Saginaw Bay, and some of it's Georgian Bay in Canadian waters. IMO the best boating & sailing lakes anywhere, but ocean-like in their treachery.

[@zacharynorton9796]

September is usually when the water temps are the warmest…the summer sun has been beating down on the lakes but also depends on what the currents are doing as well. I live in Sheboygan right on the coast of Lake Michigan and we don’t go to the beach for swimming until really late in the summer…too damn cold the rest of the year

[@chuckzehnder530]

Great job. When I was young, I used to dive shipwrecks in Lakes Superior and Michigan back in the 1960s and 70s. You have done a masterful job of research.

[@dexchex5685]

As someone who grew up on the Great Lakes I love these videos, keep them coming.

[@0759trainz]

The Great Lakes are fascinating yet terrifying at the same time

[@MarianneKat]

They have great power, and are routinely underestimated.

[@joshfrankem4372]

Great thing usually are

[@jjnich4915]

Good morning fellow boat nerds! Going to watch this one while I stare out at the shores of Lake Huron.

[@lisadolan689]

I’m in cairns in Australia 🇦🇺

[@jjnich4915]

@@lisadolan689 Hello, Lisa. You are across the world from me but we are both here together because of boats! 🇦🇺🇨🇦

[@erbewayne6868]

Just on the harbor dock at Lexington.

[@Maxharddrive64]

My father was a merchant marine on the great lakes.He wasn't scared of much...but the lakes.. lets say he had A healthy respect.. He'd tell stories about Superior and how regularly in the mornings they'd wake to the bow being completely covered in ice....in AUGUST...

[@JozefLucifugeKorzeniowski]

the lakes always innately freaked me out. I grew up on a coast, so seeing the lakes that are so vast they look like the ocean just feels unsettling.

[@91_C4_FL]

My favorite vanished ship of the Great Lakes is the SS James C Carruthers. Less than a year old, it was lost in the great storm of 1913 and remains lost to this day. It’s story and the evidence that it potentially got lost and foundered is fascinating.

[@StephenMcmonagle-dv4kf]

which would explain why it wouldnt be claimed when found, they would have to render over the contents to the govt if they wanted to seize it for a ''museum'' or some b.s.

[@MarianneKat]

As a lifelong Michigander, i always love the great lakes freighter stories. Highly recommend going to whitefish point and the shipwreck museum. Also Soo Locks!!

[@rhondaorberson9664]

Several years ago I traveled from my lifelong home in Kentucky to the UP. Visited the locks, Whitefish Point and the museum, and Mackinac Island. Of all the places I've vacationed, I have to say the UP is one of the most beautiful.

[@insertnamehere313]

The Valley Camp is pretty cool..seeing the lifeboats of the Fitz is always been my favorite.

[@ericjb3014]

I've been to the museum. I've also seen Lake Superior in November During high wind.....scary

[@nelliesfarm8473]

Storms on the great lakes can be quite unpredictable! In the early 80s , growing up, my mom , myself and step dad got caught up in a totally unexpected, horrific storm on lake Erie , in our 18 foot Chris craft boat. It was much like that scene at the beginning of Gilligan's Island...waves crashing over the boat, massive rocking back and forth, high winds blowing stinging rain onto you , etc it was terrifying...hours of this while my step dad ( who was very experienced ) , desperately tried to keep us afloat... Steering up front. We had no cover on the boat , either. Next thing you know, it was morning and I woke up from sleeping on one of the seats...we survived the night !!! We were all waterlogged and thankful to be alive after that night of hell. I'm 53 years old , its been 40 years now , and I've not forgotten one moment of it.

[@kman7169]

No kidding . As well have some memories . Worst one all riders bruised in some way . Fat lips , black eyes whatnot from being tossed about . Keeping forward into the waves and battle wind and diagonal current trying to keep trajectory took 5 times as long to get back to our port . we where alll half naked and enjoying a beautiful summer day 10 minutes before the storm hit

[@charsiu_808]

I don't imagine! I've been involved in a boating accident and you never forget the terror.

[@clarsach29]

Actually I think my favourite Great Lakes ship mystery is that of the SS Edmund Fitzgerald.....the "mystery" being how a modern, well-built ship can sink on the lakes as late as 1975.....the recurring theme with all of these though seems to be the relentless pressure to squeeze just one more cargo trip across the Lakes in, before the ice forms.....and this then coincides with November storms and tragedy.

[@MarianneKat]

The Fitz filled my childhood with anniversaries and new info or hypotheses. Gorden Lightfoot just passed and they rang the bell at the mariner's church in Detroit 28 times...plus one for him. 😢. 'One last run' is a big theme cuz it can mean the difference between a profit or loss year. I just wish they had better weather prediction to be able to make those choices safer.

[@Mavisdundundunnnmanston]

@@MarianneKat one of my favorite sad songs of all time. I've added it to so many spotify playlists. Gonna go listen again.

[@LokiOdinson-fz8ps]

@@MarianneKat barf. Lightfoot only wrote that song to MAKE MONEY.

[@pickeljarsforhillary102]

@@LokiOdinson-fz8ps Feelings dont pay the bills or keep the fridge full.

[@shereesmazik5030]

The relatives of the lost didn’t feel that way . They knew the song would make sure their loved ones were not forgotten.

[@kimlersue]

I was raised on lake Michigan..and it is very dark water. I loved learning to swim off the little beach..playing in the sand and .watching the ferry boats. I fell asleep listening to the fog horns and boats talking to each other. As a child it all seemed to safe, warm and homey..and i had zero thought about ships going down. Then one family as lost in the lake. Everyone was out looking for them and happily they were found safe. I looked at the dark water, my play yard, with a new respect..and caution. REST IN PEACE ALL WHO GO DOWN IN SHIPS!

[@parsleypalace3272]

Haunting stories, well presented. My heart goes out to all those mariners who were lost. Thanks for remembering them through your video!

[@Stay100chicago]

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[@jenniferlevine5406]

This is a lovely memorial to the lost men and their families. Well done!

[@asteroidrules]

A big part of what makes the Great Lakes so dangerous is how unique they are. The overwhelming majority of freshwater bodies are far smaller, so most people with experience in large bodies of water got that experience on the open ocean. But the cold freshwater of the great lakes doesn't behave like saltwater in the open sea, and the relatively shallow depth causes situations like what became of the Clifton to happen where waves can cause ships to strike the lakebed. Their position in the middle of North America directly underneath the polar jet stream also means weather patterns are unlike what you find almost anywhere else on earth. The infamous November Gales can reach hurricane force winds, but winter storms build much more rapidly than tropical storms, meaning it's very easy to get caught out in them.

[@silverstuff182]

Very informative

[@victoriadiesattheend.8478]

thank you for mentioning the difference that traveling on a huge body of freshwater makes as opposed to all the experience people usually receive sailing on huge bodies of saltwater. The freshwater WILL behave differently, and the Jet Stream that you mentioned helps to create weather not found anywhere else. The Great Lakes are very, very unique and thus can be very dangerous.

[@B0BBARKER444]

The Lake, it is said, never give up their dead when the gales of November turn gloomy

[@LokiOdinson-fz8ps]

BARF. Stop bringing up that damn song. little Gordy only wrote it to make money.

[@annbower6278]

​@@LokiOdinson-fz8ps no he didn't to make money. He wanted the 29 men remembered & he DONATED all the money to the 29 families left behind. Your attitude is both disgraceful & disrespectful. Maritime Sailors Cathedral rang the bell for 30 times, 29 for the Fitz crew & the 30th for Gordon Lightfoot because of his death.

[@A-verygrimreaper]

@@LokiOdinson-fz8psthink about all the men who died just trying to feed their families. I pray that god sees you and help’s you with all that negativity

[@chrismitlyng1411]

You should do a video on the Madeira and all of the ships that were lost on the same late November storm on Superior!

[@luckyguy600]

Super! Never enough stories told about the Great lake Ships & sailors.

[@GoBlueGirl78]

I love living on Lake Ontario. I couldn't imagine living somewhere that didn't have a massive expanse of open water, it would feel claustrophobic. The ships are so huge, they're fun to watch coming into the Harbour.

[@_Corndawgg]

Are you near Hamilton?

[@GoBlueGirl78]

@@_Corndawgg I am! You?

[@_Corndawgg]

@@GoBlueGirl78 i’m in Oakville but i go down there a lot to see the long ships pass

[@annbower6278]

Likewise @Amanda I also preferred living next to a lake instead of being stuck in the middle of place that had no lakes or oceans to be next to.

[@jujuonthatqueef5043]

@@annbower6278fresh off the press humans like waterfront property

[@karissahenry2277]

I'm at a campground in Grand Marais in my tent, while it rains, listening to this videos in the dark 😌😊

[@GloriousSEAGRUB]

It’s interesting how many ships went missing on the great lakes.

[@MarianneKat]

The great lakes shipping age was interesting yet tragic. The lakes have their own weather and can fire up on a dime. The Edmund Fitzgerald fills my childhood, and I highly recommend visiting the shipwreck museum at whitefish point as well as the Soo Locks.

[@ericreese7792]

They're fearsome places.

[@annbower6278]

There is 6 thousand shipwrecks on the great lakes beds from Superior to Ontario.

[@blueskies6475]

@@annbower6278 wow!!

[@Tony-es9jx]

Hi, love the videos, just wanted to mention that the Manitou Islands rhyme with two. But thank you for bringing attention to these stories that I otherwise would not have heard of or that I've forgotten

[@stevehomeier8368]

Thank you for another fine video! As always I’m impressed with the amount of research you put in. It’s amazing how much actual footage you are able to find as well as the skillful editing in of relevant shots and film

[@dianewright5575]

It's so hard to understand how/why some of these ships have never been found. Thank You for an excellent presentation of these haunting stories.

[@thomashowlett8295]

A very familiar Great Lakes story. A freighter leaves port, an unexpected storm arises, Ship is never seen again.

[@gabe-po9yi]

Until I happened upon a Great Lakes’ shipwreck video a few years ago, I had no idea the Lakes had great storms like this. Nice video, very descriptive and really appreciate the photos and clips. They always help in getting the picture of an event.

[@dwayneroberts6616]

It's not just the size of the waves in the great lakes it's the frequency of the waves. They come at you in much shorter wave intervals and you get 3 monster waves one right after the other instead of one at a time.

[@melissahill537]

I grew up on Lake Erie. I am still amazed at how big the Great Lakes are! So glad I found your channel.

[@witeshade]

I swear, at least half the shipwrecks happpen on the "one last voyage of the season"

[@therealtony2009]

I love these great lakes videos! Please do more! I love your channel.

[@christinaredepenning2760]

My interest in Lake Superior began a few years ago on a trip to Duluth MN. I went to the lighthouse and learned all about the ships that sank and were left in the lake. I originally thought.. no way.. this is a lake. But I learned to have a little more respect for the Great Lakes. I love learning about history that happened in a state that I’ve grown to love since moving here in 1997! Thank you for all your stories ❤

[@jo-annknowles1373]

I love any video about ships on the GL ... my mum is canadian and i visited as a child . Its my dream to move over there and explore the pukasaw trail and other areas . I think my favourite vids of the area are about duluth , so the mataafa would have to be my fav one . . So sad 😞. Makes me so upset . Ty for all your videos mr BOB . And heres to many mofe ❤😊 .

[@AlexGarcia-ew2fv]

I lov listening 2 these stories in bed to fall asleep..they mentally relax me..

[@bobberttv8565]

Nothing like waking up to some great lakes story

[@erinhilliard9347]

As someone who grew up on Lake Michigan and spent a decade living near Lake Superior, I’m so glad you’re sharing these stories for future generations.

[@scorpion19142001]

Who's going really going to remember? Rogue Waves on any of the Great Lakes?

[@erinhilliard9347]

@@scorpion19142001 it’s not about first hand accounts. I personally know a merchant mariner. It’s not easy work, but the stories from now and then are exciting. Obviously we’re past having most people alive remember any of these stories, but their accounts live on through this channel bringing their stories of bravery, ingenuity, sacrifice and camaraderie to life so that future generations will know what it took to build this country, put food on the table and build what we have today.🇺🇸🇨🇦

[@connorkilgour3374]

I would highly recommend people visit the various maritime museums around the great lakes. fascinating stuff.

[@TurboMcAwesome]

What we've learned is to just never take the last trip of the season.

[@tessaducek5601]

The video is amazing. I have watched new footage from ships and it is just spine tingling. The ocean/lakes terrifies me. But facinates me at the same time. They are so unpredictable and beautiful. Its heartbreaking to see the loss of such majestic ships and those who man them.

[@InlandSeas]

Another fantastic video. Thank you for doing such incredible content and things not usually spoken about (Great Lakes especially!)

[@Here_is_Waldo]

Thanks for this, Bob. Always entertaining and informative.

[@kitkat914]

I’m in love with your Channel!! Can you do a video about the Marysburgh vortex or like Lake Michigan Triangle? Those are probably the most mysterious areas of the Great Lakes

[@20thCenturyManTrad]

Gotta tell you, I really appreciate you telling stories from Lake Superior, so many good men went down. I live in the Soo, the 1913 storm always gives me chills figuratively and literally.

[@au7-721]

I grew up in Paradise. I was a teenager when the Fitzgerald went down.

[@20thCenturyManTrad]

@@au7-721 Beautiful area, I wasn't around when the old Fitz went down, but I've been studying shipwrecks on the Great Lakes since I was about 7.

[@au7-721]

​@@20thCenturyManTrad I watched your video on morality and the ten commandments. I have been saying we are living in a post Christian society. My folks were not Christians but everything I was taught was based on those commandments even though they didn't realize it. That is almost gone now in our society. Now society calls righteousness evil and evil is called righteousness. Im a born again believer positioned in the risen Christ. I still have alot of friends in Chippewa county. Alot of good folks live there but very few have a knowledge of God. God bless you and I'd like to encourage you to make more videos.

[@20thCenturyManTrad]

@@au7-721 Well thank you, I'm honored. I'll try to work on those, I'm working on several projects, but I'll take that to heart.

[@Paul-jb1yw]

Being a western New Yorker, I fully understand the dangers of the lakes, the storm last Christmas was curtsey of lake Erie, I got around a foot and half in Niagara Falls, but just under 20 miles to my south in Buffalo they got 5 feet.

[@cattandneil1504]

Loved this video! Subscriber now!

[@BigOldBoats]

Thank you! Welcome aboard!

[@ScooterDoge]

Lake MI and Lake Superior are epic. I love MI. Lived here most of my life. Some great dive sites.

[@camberweller]

Great video. Concise and respectful.

[@DarthAverage]

The lesson here seems to be, if your captain says, "This will be our last run of the season," then get off the ship NOW.

[@thechief043]

Since I live in this area, I'm fascinated with these mini-oceans.

[@kamata93]

Honestly…. Even back then how did someone thought that leaving a massive open deck in the back of the ship was a good idea? Jeez….

[@clarksmith8517]

I used to work on ships like this… Lake Superior is no joke when there’s a bad storm!

[@bernhardbruening7546]

Worked 1955 and 1956 on a Canadian Texaco tanker, Great Lakes and coastal trade . Great Lakes were rougher than Atlantic coast when weather turned.

[@farfle]

Thank you for another great video on Great Lakes ships. I really love your stories, but especially these concerning the ship of the lakes. Have you considered doing a story on the Christmas ship?

[@cattandneil1504]

What was the Christmas ship? Never heard of it

[@farfle]

@@cattandneil1504 It was a ship that brought Christmas trees from northern Michigan to Chicago. I don't remember all the details but it was lost in a storm no one foresaw in, I believe, the late 1800's. There is a book about it, published about 20 years ago.

[@AliciaOsmus]

You deserve a million subscribers! 🎉

[@benlund4906]

This is one of my favorite channels. I love the subject matter! And you have a perfect voice to narrate these stories. Big fan!

[@Silas-gv9xx]

This guy knows how to create excellent videos. Favorite boat channel.

[@thecivilwarguy3674]

HUZZAH MORE GREAT LAKES

[@marcomcdowell8861]

As a kid and teen, I would bike down to the port and watch the ships offload coal and ore for the steel mill and power plant. The area was call Hot Waters because the discharge from the plant warmed up the water around the boat launches. The ships were massive and the crews were always friendly. Seemed like they'd be there forever, but times changed and the shipping dwindled.#lorainboy

[@sharonsplat]

That was a sweet song for his friends. The sadness, hurt, and love in it are palpable.

[@iamrichrocker]

Keep up the great content and presentation..your subs have been increasing at a good rate..a sign that many of us like good editing and subject matter that catches our attention..

[@DRAKED411]

Beautiful work, keep them coming

[@JohnDavies-cn3ro]

Love these stories, made all the more enjoyable by the old movie films which bring them back to life. Am I correct in thinking that both 'Bannockburn' and M&B No 2 have been found since this film was made?

[@scofab]

A pleasure as always and thanks again.

[@OceanViewLocomotiveMachineCo]

Very much enjoying the Great Lakes content, excellent work! How about a Lake Champlain feature, the lake that almost was a great lake?

[@ladyhonor822]

I❤ this one 🕐

[@BrentJoy-pz7ef]

Love the stories told on the great lakes. Keep up the good work.

[@NicklePickle426]

Thank you for not including the Edmund Fitzgerald. It's the Great Lakes greatest mystery and has tons of videos dedicated to it.

[@daytimedreaming8307]

Great job covering these lost ships and their crews. It was quite an interesting watch.

[@nhmisnomer]

As a southerner new to the great lakes region, I find these stories fascinating. Thanks!

[@Commander-McBragg]

Fantastic work, friend!

[@lsrose]

I’m from Kentucky and have never seen the Great Lakes. I’ve watched my share of videos about the lakes and ships lost on them. I’m both fascinated by the storms and mystified by the loss of these ships. My take is that the captains overestimate their ships and underestimate the power of a sudden storm. I cannot fathom a storm on the lakes.

[@johnengland8619]

Thanks again for the content, excellent

[@Megabob777]

It's a good day when Bob uploads

[@AdmiralGray1911]

Another great video. I love the atmosphere that you created with the soundtrack.

[@porkbud8387]

Thanks for the upload. It's a great video very interesting.

[@Duececoupe]

Another excellent video! Keep these coming....and others of course! 👍🏻👌🏻👏🏻🏆🥇

[@Straswa]

Great work BoB. I enjoy your content.

[@fluuufffffy1514]

Beautifully done, sir

[@gabegates6463]

Can you do more videos on Lake Erie shipwrecks?

[@paulkweiner6577]

Great job ! Entertaining, interesting and informative !!!

[@marvwatkins7029]

5 are just a few of many.

[@micheleshively8557]

Great stories, great job! Love this channel ❤️

[@andrewyoung2796]

Informative and very listenable

[@Gb_cole]

Another fantastic video

[@lorenrogers9269]

I love your informative and relaxed videos. I remember in an older video that you stated that you hated your voice. I thought you should know that both my wife and I chatted about your voice. We both believe your voice is different (from average, in a good way) and exceedingly soothing. Keep up the good work. 👍🏻

[@rcjdeanna5282]

I listen to your stories like radio shows on the porch...congratulations for having not only great photos but being an excellent narrator as well. You asked about dreams related by different people about the same ships in distress. This is very common part of crime detection of awful crimes. A young woman here in SC drowned her 2 little boys because a prospective rich boyfriend didn't like kids. She said a black man stole her car with the boys strapped inside. This was contrary to all profiles (normally the little boys would have been dropped off at a convenience store or something) and made the police suspicious, but they were also flooded with calls from all over the US from people who saw the children in a blue car at the bottom of a lake screaming. My daughter woke up in a cold sweat after her vision of this. I'm wondering if this ship with the dreamers had something particularly malicious happen since normally the Lakes can be dangerous at times anyway. Sad story Thanks for this wonderful series. As the History Guy says, these stories deserve to be remembered.

[@bendoingthing]

I love your videos. You deserve waaaay more subs. Keep it up

[@jonmajarucon51]

17:12 a body is pretty deteriorated after only a couple of days at sea. When they found Captain Mcleods body after several months they found "slash marks"? Was his body frozen?

[@sirridesalot6652]

Or perhaps hit by a propeller?

[@jonmajarucon51]

@@sirridesalot6652 I never considered that! 🙂

[@lewismartinez5130]

A frightening number of these were the last run of the season.

[@prudencepineapple9448]

Much Kudos to you. It's great to see your channel grow. The P&O line servicing India and the far East like Malaysia, Singapore, Australia etc would be interesting to cover including the 'Straths' from the inter-war period. Beautiful ships. Not many know of P&O as White Star and Cunard seem to dominate peoples minds when British shipping history is mentioned.

[@priscillamcclure4272]

Eerie to know how many ships were taken by our great lakes, I put my foot in lk superior it was so cold right at the shore it scared me

[@retroemo9316]

Thank you for giving the length in feet and meters. As someone being used to meter it’s way easier to follow. Looking forward to your next video!

[@lisadolan689]

Agreed

[@KimtheElder]

as someone who can't visualize a multitude of yards OR meters, I tend to like the size of a football field (American football fields) 😅. I am joking, but not joking. very sad state of affairs on my part..... yet, I can parallel park with relative ease 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@MarianneKat]

As an American nurse, I can float between the two relatively well. When we had an Italian exchange student I was always calculating things in my head for him so I thanked my mathy engineer dad for that ability😂. I can parallel park if I must, but many social skills are beyond me. 🤷‍♀️

[@LokiOdinson-fz8ps]

Or you can stop being lazy and do the conversion like everyone else.

[@bryanbrennan2827]

The EDMUND FITZGERALD.Start to finish..play Gordon's msusic too pls.. thanx. I m from Avoca, Mich.. B

[@ichitoburrito1359]

Is it me or do a lot of wrecks seem to happen on the ship's 'one last voyage' of the season?

[@fhwolthuis]

Great video, I love spooky ships and trains

[@murraykitson1436]

Perhaps you might enjoy the movie " Death Ship"? This reminds me of the Alkimos story ,off Western Australia.

[@fhwolthuis]

@@murraykitson1436 yeah, I know it and have it on DVD 😁

[@jimmy_styx7463]

Another banger by BOB!! Also, for anyone interested in the unique Whaleback ships mentioned here, the SS Meteor in Superior, WI serves as a museum ship - the last existing Whaleback.

[@myragroenewegen5426]

What would death have been for that crew on the SS Clifton? Certainly the lamps would be out, so it would be dark, but I wonder, with the whole thing so well enclosed, if the bodily effects of the rapid dissent would have killed everyone well before any actual water got in and any actual drowning took place. Of course it wasn't made to go fully underwater, but the reference to it being built so much like a submarine are what's making me curious here. The inside of that ship sounds like about the most awful and powerless way to be in a shipwreck, in any case. You'd feel everything and be able to do and see nothing.

[@footballlvnlady]

I live in Wisconsin near Lake Michigan. She can be calm and gorgeous in the summer. In October through December she is a mean old girl.

[@esterherschkovich6499]

New sub here from the UK 😊

[@BigOldBoats]

Welcome aboard! :)

[@robertjonsson797]

The Edmund Fitzgerald is my "favourite" mystery.