5 signs you have ADHD and autism

In this video, I talk about what it's like having both autism and ADHD and how this can feel from an inner perspective. ADHD and autism have many similarities, but also many conflicting traits, so this can be really difficult to unpick sometimes.
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[pinkdoobie]

Oh my gosh, you hit the nail on the head with, “Can’t stay home because it’s too boring; can’t leave home because of overstimulation.”

[Seven The Misgiven]

This one is actually a good one to keep in mind when you're doubting indeed. Can still be hard to relate at times but I do have examples of my own.

[ExaltedDuck]

Look up the bit from Kids in the Hall, "agoraphobic claustrophobic" Short and sweet and still makes me chuckle 30 years later.

[Alicia]

Omg this is my daily life 😭😭

[KawaiiCat]

That’s why I like parks and hiking. Quite and not boring

[steve wanke]

Great video, but I had to watch it with my eyes closed because of your green ring light reflecting off of your glasses. That made it like eating toothpaste and orange juice while wearing wet socks and staring into a spotlight. Not good to watch, but the content you delived was, so ...

[Bob e]

The special interest bit really clinched it for me. I've been told by a professional that I couldn't be officially diagnosed as autistic because I was missing 'that big part of it' because I had varying lengths of high intensity obsessions with things, ranging from years to a week or two to intense research for an evening, with 2-5 longer lived topics I never bore of, but never that overpowering, all encompassing niche one that never goes away. This blew my mind. I feel very validated.

[rosslomath]

Funny how things can have perspectives 1. Having a interest in what things are and how and why the work, this is good because I'm always looking to learn new things and skills. 2. I have a mental disorder because many things fascinate me. Why does everyone want to be a victim here an pick number 2?

[HyzMarie]

Wait, I’m like that too!!! There are others!

[NuNu Girl]

We need to all get together and jam. Think of all the stuff we can share together, it’s so interesting and never ending. All the “Rabbit Holes” all in one place.

[Roughknite]

@Susan 'Tipsy' Healy I bet everyone clapped too

[fred tremblay]

Yep...exactly the same for me...if i get into something, i have to learn it all and it consumes me for days till i crash...then i may get disregulated for a few more days to a week or so, then a new topic, or and old interests returns, some come with the seasons, others come with moods, music and drawing are 2 recurring themes, but i have picked up dozens of interest, from astronomy, to boating, precision rifles, arts, botany, anatomy, biology, gorod(best band on earth this month)...i crave both lonelyness and crowds but cant control which it will be in which situation......this is the most relatable video ever. ..i have no diagnosis...this is just how i can describe myself.....maybe i should get that referal after all lol

[Toon Topaz Art]

I got my ADHD diagnosis at 19, got on medication about a year later, it worked great. But THEN once my ADHD hyperactivity was more subdued, suddenly my sensory issues were going haywire, like I couldn’t stand bright lights, my sound sensitivity was worse and I became an even pickier eater. Turns out my ADHD was probably masking my autistic traits this whole time. It makes sense, because I never fully related to the typical ADHD experience. I crave stability and routine, but I never shut up and tend to stare at people and talk very enthusiastically. My autistic sibling clocked me as being both long before I ever did lol

[NV33]

@Lisa Walls I’m going through that right now! I just started taking my adhd medicine because I was just recently diagnosed and it worked great and then several hours later all of a sudden my sensory issues were 20 times worse! I was plugging my ears and had to leave the room over my baby niece crying. Also at work I started freaking out because I noticed the entire room was super loud and there was a ton of people around. I had to leave the room because I was contemplating quitting my job. That was when I started to think I could be possibly autistic, I can’t stand loud noises already but once I’m able to concentrate better and not being blocked by my thoughts it’s like I finally stopped being able to tune out all the noise and all of a sudden all the noise is freaking me out cause it’s 10 times louder! The more research I keep doing on autism the more I keep relating to it, I’m thinking about going and getting tested soon

[FunningRast]

It’s almost like taking stimulants stimulate your sensory organs and perception….

[Rich]

Aye. Been on stimulants for about 6 months now and the sensory issues are definitely worse. Or, they feel worse. I feel like some of it is that I'm way more able to isolate and recognize the actual thing that's making me upset, and it makes me angry and upset that I can't seem to fix it/convince people to stop doing it.

[Roxanne M]

Have you ever been properly tested for Lyme disease?

[UniquelyCharlotte]

Meee! Right as I got diagnosed with ADHD I got medicine, and I started feeling different. At first, I tried to blame it on the Medicine, but that wasn't it. Then this video about autism in girls appeared. I didn't know much about autisim, and decided to watch the video. I thought hey I have some of those trates. Then, later on this video appeared. It was soo relatable. But Im still too nervous to tell anyone because I've never felt this way till now, and they might think In lying for attention. But thank you for making me feel like I'm not the only one! 😊

[Weird As H]

I also have a psychology degree and I'm diagnosed with ADHD since a kid. However I was dismissed so strictly by three professionals who seemed sure that I absolutely didn't have autism within like 5 minutes. Facial expressions they said, eye contact they said, non monotone voice they said. See now the thing is, ever since I was a child my mind was set on becoming a singer. Music has always been my thing and I'm sure no autistic person will be suprised to hear this but I can't give it up to do more appropriate things lol. Since I wanted to be a singer who danced (and I also wanted to star in musicals) I practiced my facial expressions A LOT. Hours in front of the mirror. Getting the hang of it, finding the right eye movements, brow movements, feeling the song requires. I was already practicing my vocals and rapping skills and I think I became quite natural at those too.I also spent a horribly huge chunk of me teens searching "how to act normal" "how to socialize" "how to keep a conversation going" Reading all about how eye contact is super important and how I needed to act like I was confident for it to become real. (it didnt) So one day I decided that I'd just be looking at people in the eye all the time. That made them uncomfortable. Nowadays I find myself trying to balance a ratio of looking away and looking at them, I mostly miss what they're saying doing that. My god. Everything I described sounds painfully autistic doesn't it? Mind you I have a degree on this even though I prefer lived experiences of people more to a DSM diagnosis. But I couldn't even manage to begin the conversation about me possibly being autistic with these professionals. All three of them made me think that I do not want to walk through their footsteps. Even if I'm actually not autistic and being paranoid like they seemed to think, I'm still suffering from all those things I described. How could someone call themselves a mental health professional and invalidate someone's feelings and experiences like this? And the worst part is, if I didn't have the education I do have I wouldn't know what was so wrong with these people. I dont even know why I wrote all this but if you are also struggling to get a diagnosis and feel like an imposter, just leave that behind. You dont necessarily need the labeling to find help. If you suffer from something that autistic people suffer from look up what they do to overcome their challanges. We got this y'all.

[Simply Sierra]

I do the same things with eye contact. I’ve trained myself to look at someone in the eyes about once a minute while speaking. It’s also really hard for me to use peoples names. I feel so uncomfortable using people or even animals names. Like I can say “come here puppy” to a dog but if it has a name I probably won’t say it. I have adhd, maybe I’m autistic to.. idk..

[KC Starr]

I really wanted to read this whole comment but I’m sorry it was too long and I couldn’t. 🤦🏼‍♀️

[Tanyariko]

ADHD dx’d and I’ve been wondering lately if I might have ASD too. I remember teaching myself as a teen how to make the correct facial expressions, how to make small talk, how to maintain eye contact (but not too much!), how to *sound* right (not too monotone as if I’m bored but not too excited so I don’t come across too strongly. 😅) I felt like I was studying how to “people” properly, and it was both fascinating and frustrating. Still, I hadn’t felt like I presented as ASD in most cases, so I thought maybe having to work hard to learn social skills was just a generally neurodivergent thing instead of specifically ASD. But with more research I’ve definitely been relating again to a *lot* of the dual diagnosis posts and experiences, so… 🤷‍♀️ It’s nice to feel seen either way though, knowing there are a lot of us out there feeling this way. ❤

[Shane DeHorney]

Yes! I have made so many people uncomfortable trying to make eye contact. I used to always look at the floor, growing up. It was just safer. But I read lots of self help books - pre-internet- and watched lots of videos about posing and relationships. And the key takeaway was that I had to make eye contact and have expressions. The expressions drive people bonkers because they say I can be read like a book and want me to be 'professional' and have a 'poker face'; and the eye contact makes them wonder if I can see through their soul. It's exhausting and frustrating.

[Jonas Randa]

Hi! I’m one of the folks that also taught myself how to make facial expressions in the mirror when I was young. I think this validates the effort I needed to learn them, not the reverse!!! In fact, this is usually called masking. I do recommend finding time to rediscover how you like to express or not express your emotions without masking. Even if it’s only in safe settings, it can be really relaxing and feel good. I even discovered that I DO have my own muscle reaction counterpart to smiling- I flex my cheeks away from my mouth rather than the common neurotypical experience of a smile causing cheeks to flex up & away from the mouth. This discovery was especially wonderful because my fiancé said he recognized the expression as a smile already💜

[Ylyrra]

Point 5 cannot be overstated enough. The point I realised I was autistic rather than "just me, I guess I'm weird" was the realisation that the ONLY people I never had to explain how my brain worked to were all the specific friends who were finally getting their autistic diagnoses after years of struggle. When it was 1 or 2 people it was a coincidence, when it started to edge up past 10 and marched through 15 it kinda became undeniable even if many of my traits don't fit the broken old traditional diagnosis list.

[Chloe B]

Yes! The funniest part for me was the moment I realized, "Oh no, every boyfriend I've ever had (and my husband) have ADHD."

[Ignace Alli]

Thank you Dr Oyalo for healing my son from autism. And I want to share about him to every one His herbs has made my son verbal and Improve in social skills

[Poliglotona]

OMG Everything described so well it was uncanny! 😯 I have an ADHD diagnosis, but I suspected I am also autistic for a long time. The craving organization, but at the same time being really messy, the great variety of interests (some ongoing, some for short periods but obsessively), how social interactions drain me but at the same time I like talking to new people...

[Regular Person]

This made me think of how few times I could relate properly to people. I've gotten a lot more respect for them now that I know why xD

[Vinnie S]

The inner conflict is maddening. All the things that make me feel most alive quickly burn me out. Yet, living a quiet little life that avoids burnout triggers depressive episodes through understimulation. When making major life decisions it's like deciding which kind of breakdown I'd rather have. Heh.

[Chantal B]

Yup.

[A J H PRODUCTIONS]

@SherlochI’ll start multiple projects and never finish a single one. It’s not that I lose interest in the first thing I’m doing, but that the next thing is suddenly more interesting and I have to gravitate towards it.

[A J H PRODUCTIONS]

Holy crap it’s like you write exactly what I couldn’t put into works about myself. I feel so damn guilty all the time, jumping from one thing to the next, it’s always so hard to read or listen to someone unless I’m really baked. It’s friggin maddening lol

[Julia L.R.]

Omg YES. I’m either pending towards depression due to understimulation (but feeling peaceful and balanced like I have things under control), or completely burned out due to overstimulation (but feeling alive).

[Brianne]

This is EXACTLY how I feel.

[Nicole Hunt]

I’ve been diagnosed with both and the whole contradictory between both adhd and autistic traits is just so spot on especially when they make you contradict yourself and you just feel so hypocritical 😅 I’m just glad it’s not just me who feels this way. It’s hard feeling like your too much for people or other people are too much for yourself. It just makes it harder to actually connect with people

[Flying Dutchmom]

This is exactly where I struggle with my whole life! I'm diagnosed with ADHD but I never felt that I fit in totally. My daughter got diagnosed with autism a few years ago and I started to read more about it. Never thought I would recognize so much.I can be so outgoing and loud too that it didn't make sense. It feels a bit lonely to not fit in a diagnosis, like you stil not sure it is the right diagnosis. I learned to cover up my autism feelings and behaviors because it did not match with the personality people see on the outside. I don't want to cover up anymore and be who I am. But is it not easy, people don't understand it, I dont even understand myself. How can you be so chaotisch on on side and want everything you do to be perfect, witch costs a lot of time an slows you down etc. I really think I got my answers. I can't stop analyzing everything all the time, thats exually exhausting. My mind is always busy, wants to do stuff al the time, but on the same time I'm so easily overwhelmed with normal daily tasks.

[Lolita Jade]

Relate

[Julie Ellery]

The being loud and enthusiastic has always been a problem for me. As a 65 year as-yet-undiagnosed auDHD, I can remember my mother being embarrassed by me so very many times! The chaos and conflict between that want to have everything right and not being able to physically achieve it has haunted me throughout my life 🙃

[Ignace Alli]

I used this doc herbs for my son and now my son is completely free, his speaking and behavior is ok. His herbs is 100% working on ASD. I met Dr Oyalo on channel and I’m happy to share my experience about it

[Hannah Bowtell]

OMG this is me 🤣 my psychiatrist said if they didn't know what to look for it would have seemed like I didn't have autism, cause not only had I taught myself to mask both of them, but my social ADHD traits almost hid my autistic traits. He said that as he got to know me it became more obvious, as well as what I said to him about myself. So important that people get diagnosed by doctors that actually have knowledge about both 🥰

[Adam]

@roboKRITmy thoughts exactly sounds like major cope.

[Ignace Alli]

Thank you Dr Oyalo for healing my son from autism. And I want to share about him to every one His herbs has made my son verbal and Improve in social skills

[roboKRIT]

@CanAm479 CanAm479 believe or manipulate?

[CanAm479 CanAm479]

❤ So happy for you that your psychiatrist eventually was open to listen to you and hear you and work with valuable information that you shared that would lead to no helpful guidance or help if your psychologist didn’t listen to you… I’m still looking for a professional to “believe” what I’m telling them about myself!

[Annemieke van der Meer]

Woe thanks for this. I’m a psychologist and have a son with a lot of sensitivity. It’s been a rollercoaster to tend to his needs: very talkative and active but also needing a lot of structure and predictability. I am only now discovering I might be ADD and/ or autistic as well.. he’s been my mirror to take more downtime which is hard with 3 young boys. Love your insights, thanks so much for your openess!

[Ignace Alli]

Thank you Dr Oyalo for healing my son from autism. And I want to share about him to every one His herbs has made my son verbal and Improve in social skills

[AnimeLuchia]

I was diagnosed very young with ADHD (first grade in America, so 6-7) and it wasn’t until 7th grade that they added the autistic diagnosis. And honestly, i question how they couldn’t see it sooner! My autism was so obvious when I was around other people! I even did a small thing that some autistic people do when someone is talking to them: repeating part of what they’re saying (though it was under my breath and I was aware it was weird so I pretty quickly trained myself not to do it). The amount of breakdowns I had in school, the need to follow the rules, the need for others to follow the rules, the slow start to talking to people… all of it was diagnosed as a mood disorder rather than what it actually was: autism! And ever bit of this video matches it perfectly! *Especially* the inability to have order in my life despite preferring it. It’s kinda become a contradiction in me that’s balanced out to finding chaos my way of organising. Like everything is all strewn everywhere, but I don’t feel comfortable unless it is. I say that, but again, I enjoy having an orderly house as well… there’s just something nice about a fresh room with nothing around in it, or with a minimalist aesthetic… it’s just s complete mess and I’m so glad I now know it’s just both my disorders interacting in a weird way! Oh! But there is *one* thing I should mention… a way my autism and ADHD feed each other, which you can kinda tell by this comment: when I get on a topic I love, I always talk for far too long. No matter if it’s a passing fancy, or if it’s a permanent fixation, you can’t get me to shut up about it.

[Ignace Alli]

Thank you Dr Oyalo for healing my son from autism. And I want to share about him to every one His herbs has made my son verbal and Improve in social skills

[Noreen Vance]

1. 1:56 Constant conflict between apparently contradictory traits 2. 2:46 Your traits may appear to balance each other out 3. 4:08 A larger variety than usual of special interests/hyper fixations 4. 5:55 Different versions of your traits emerge in different situations 5. 7:02 You relate to people who have a dual diagnosis themselves Hope this helps for quick reference.

[neelsn007]

Thank you!

[licia1130smilez]

This was very much appreciated

[Chelle Sama]

THANK YOU. Omg I don't want to sit through a bunch of blather.

[RunningOn Empty]

My 14 year old daughter was diagnosed with ADHD at a young age but is not typical to it. Recently I’ve been thinking of autism and watching videos of autistic traits as a child she had so many of them. I’m sure she has both. This video made so much sense. Just hoping to help her along the way and trying to understand what is happening in her head. Thanks for the info ❤

[Ignace Alli]

Thank you Dr Oyalo for healing my son from autism. And I want to share about him to every one His herbs has made my son verbal and Improve in social skills

[Jennifer C]

Yes! I identify with this A LOT. I just got an autism diagnosis late last year, and now I’ve turned my attention to whether I also have ADHD because some things just don’t seem to fit within the framework of autism. Like the constant conflict within myself between routine and novelty, overstimulation and under-stimulation. I am recovering from an episode of severe autistic burnout and depression, but I’m realizing more and more that under-stimulation during the pandemic, staying home too much, has been a factor in the illness as well. It’s a very fine line for me between overstimulation and under-stimulation if I try to add a little more novelty to my life. It’s really difficult. Also, the special interests: I have some long-term interests that have remained for a long time, but that change in intensity throughout the years (coming and going and coming back again), and many short-term interests that stay for a while, then go away.

[susie shields]

This was such a great video. This explains my entire experience. I was diagnosed with both at 40 as I was in the middle of a nasty divorce. I'm currently a single mother of 5 children who all have one or the other or both so my home is fun! I recently started dating someone and I try to explain some of these things and my mouth doesn't want to make the words. Now I have words to share. Thank you!

[Ignace Alli]

Thank you Dr Oyalo for healing my son from autism. And I want to share about him to every one His herbs has made my son verbal and Improve in social skills

[Amante]

I hope all went, will go, continues to go well. I also got diagnosed with both just before a separation, during a different legal issue, around my early 40s. However, I think there might be two differences between us. First I'm male. Secondly, I think I only have 1 child (as there's more probability with paternity and more certainty with maternity). Regarding my 1, he's not officially diagnosed with anything but he's so much fun and so full of energy (ADHD?) when he's not so strict with stuff (ASD?). I'm pretty sure he thinks the same about me. But my ADHD's digressing and making it all about me. I hope all went, will go, and continues to go well with you and your family.

[The Tech Margin]

Hey Sam, I was diagnosed with ADHD in my early 20s then Autism additionally later in my 30s and everything you say about the conflict between the 2 seemingly disparate diagnoses is spot on! So appreciate your brave and informed storytelling girl! Thank you

[Kutanra]

I did the organisation style quiz from clutterbug twice, one being what makes my autism feel calm, one that actually works for my ADHD. Turns out I can be 3 of the 4 styles depending on what you look at. My autistic side is the Cricket, everything is hidden away so theres no visual clutter and it is all neatly arranged into detailed sub categories, like an opaque box in a cupboard with compartments to keep my shampoos separate from my conditioners. My ADHD is a butterfly, everything needs to be in sight so I dont forget it exists and must be quick and easy to put items into, like a clear box with no lid labelled "Hair products" on an open shelf that I can just toss stuff into and see it at a glance around my room. My compromise is Ladybird; Big, easy access lidless boxes that are opaque or in a cupboard. Unfortunately my husband is Bee, everything visual, everything detailed. I just don't go into his hobby room or the kitchen lol

[Zachary Simone]

Wow this is so me it’s scary. No husband though, but a wonderful woman who understands that I’m a little different. Any type of dish or bin. I like little basket type things or Tupperware containers in drawers. And I have had many, many and multiple significant head traumas, so my brain isn’t the best at helping me remember. I’ll have an inspired day of cleaning happen and straight up lose something because I put it ‘away’. Sometimes a new place but not always. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[Jakub Waniek]

"You may crave order and routine but be unable to maintain it" A THOUSAND TIMES YES Thank you for this video. As someone who suspects they have both autism and ADHD but are currently not diagnosed with either, I experience a lot of self-doubt while I wait for a diagnosis. Like, what are the chances that I have two separate conditions and neither has been noticed by adults in my life when I was younger? This video was really validating and it affirms in my mind that I was correct to start to pursue a diagnosis. Everything you said was me to a T. EDIT: After a few negative replies essentially doubting the validity of my belief that I have autism and ADHD, I would like to clarify my position. Of course, I do not claim that relating to these experiences means that one has autism and ADHD. I believe I satisfy the diagnostic criteria, and that they explain my situation better than other potential diagnoses (such as some combination of anxiety and OCD, for instance, or merely personality traits that aren't disorders). I think that what this video does well is that it captures the day-to-day experiences of someone with autism and ADHD, which obviously differ quite a bit from the strict diagnostic criteria we use to diagnose these conditions. At no point did I say that the experiences in the video alone make me think I have autism and ADHD; on the contrary, I tried to make it clear that they affirm my decision to pursue a formal diagnosis.

[DollyFanatic]

So on point!

[Ignace Alli]

Thank you Dr Oyalo for healing my son from autism. And I want to share about him to every one His herbs has made my son verbal and Improve in social skills

[Jakub Waniek]

Update: I officially got diagnosed with ADHD yesterday! Very excited to start medication next week and finally start reaching my potential :))

[DovahkiinMary]

@Doggy the Anarchist Oh man, this could be autism related? I basically never get angry, except when injustice is involved, then I somehow get extremely irrationally sad and/or angry. Doesn't matter if on TV or in real life. The only time I ever shouted at someone in my life was in school when someone was bullied because of stupid/not true things. And on TV I can't keep watching if I'm not forced (by my partner) no matter how good it is otherwise.

[Daniel]

I have adhd and I’ve been wondering about autism as well for a while but I don’t really identify much with the dsm5 autism diagnosis criteria but this video is like you just became into me. Everything with no exception that you mentioned is exactly me. It’s like living with two opposite teens in one person each trying to get their way. It’s kinda exhausting sometimes. 😫

[Chloe B]

This was actually really helpful. I was diagnosed with autism at 27. At 30, I was struggling so terribly with executive function, my husband had me get evaluated for ADHD (which he has). The psychologist determined that my ADHD symptoms were all autism symptoms, and I didn't have the "core" ADHD criteria. And listening to this, I agree with that assessment. ADHD resources (like How to ADHD) can be really helpful for me, but I'm definitely just an aspie.

[Mylena]

At this point I feel like it's nothing unusual to be diagnosed in the early thirties, have a strong interest in psychology and also share the gathered knowledge It's incredibly validating for me and it's good to hear someone mentioning that the DSM isn't all that precise 😄 Thank you so much! 💚

[Ignace Alli]

Thank you Dr Oyalo for healing my son from autism. And I want to share about him to every one His herbs has made my son verbal and Improve in social skills

[Azudra]

Either you get checked early - or diagnosed around the 30's because all the time people said your issues do NOT exist. Took me roughly 15 years (I'm 27) of ruling out any other issues to finally tell a therapist "I feel like it could be ADHD". My parents simply didn't believe that mental issues exist and considered ADHD to be a huge fake of the pharma industry - of course they only know about the basic cliche and not the fundamentals behind what the public drama media doesn't tell you.

[🎶BF productions🎶]

This video resonates so well with me, it's crazy. I was diagnosed with ADHD inattentive type (ADD) when I was 11, but I've always wondered if I have some form of autism as well(because of being antisocial and I have some odd quirks). If so, the traits are mild enough that they're barely noticeable. I definitely have ADD tho I absolutely crave order and structure in my life, yet I live my life so chaotically with little structure. I am easily distracted and I can be completely consumed with what I'm doing. I'll find the motivation and set off to clean up my things and organize, then I immediately get a strong impulse to play my guitar or something and next thing I know, two hours flew by and I got nothing done. Then I realized what happened and get upset at myself for allowing it to happen when I probably could have prevented it. I could be in a conversation with someone, and something they say will spark a thought that turns into an inner discussion, then I'll get sensory overload and anxious because it's like I'm having 2 conversations at once, one in real life and one in my head, then the person I'm speaking with gets annoyed because I stopped listening because my brain blasted thoughts in my head. Then I'll get upset at myself because I feel like there's something wrong with me. I'm a quiet person for the most part, even overly quiet but if you bring up a topic I'm passionate about suddenly all of my focus is on that topic and I'll start passionately rambling on. I stay inside in my hermit hole because the thought of going out and meeting new people and being social gives me anxiety, but then that's the very thing I want because being inside so much becomes boring. Depending on my mood, I can be very sociable, capable and charismatic, yet at the same time I have crippling self doubt and social anxiety, and doubt my abilities in social settings. I used to look up videos a lot about how to act in social situations just because of how antisocial I used to be (it's gotten better), yet I know how sociable I can be when I'm confident, then I get upset at myself because I know I can be confident which only makes me self conscious. Vicious cycles smh. Then I get in a bigger cycle of doubt because everyone around me said there's nothing wrong with me, (which directly contradicts how I've always felt), so I'll doubt that I even have ADHD or autism or that ADHD is even real. I've always had obsessions in my life, some more healthy than others. I've been obsessed with music since I was 10, so I'd say that's a long term obsession. I used to be obsessed with reading, which was only made stronger when my stepfather grounded me from everything. I would read NONSTOP, in class, after school, any free time I had, sometimes 6 hours straight with no breaks, not even water. I even read at night even though I should've been sleeping, because he grounded me from reading too. At that point, rather than going outside I chose to sit and do literally nothing, staring at the wall for long periods of time. (I can still do this, I can be entertained by my own inner discussions for hours) Once I was finally ungrounded my obsession switched to videogames, which I literally did nonstop, an unhealthy amount, until I was grounded again. Then the obsession became history. Specifically, ancient Roman history. I became obsessed with maps and geography, learning how all the countries are shaped and how they've morphed and evolved throughout the centuries. Everybody doubted I had any issues with focus and memory because I was able to hyperfocus and memorize obscure things(obscure to others lol), yet when it comes to memorizing something "important," it takes extra effort. Then there's the constant foot tapping and fidgeting, which I've done all my life. When I'm anxious, the urge to fidget and foot tap becomes much stronger. Playing guitar helps a lot and fulfills that, because I'm able to "fidget" to a tempo.

[🎶BF productions🎶]

@Aagje Doeken I'm glad someone can relate, it helps me remember we're not alone in this journey of life 😊 Something I recently learned about ADHD is that, not only does it affect how many thoughts we have, and how quickly our brain cycles through different thoughts, the ADHD brain also finds it very difficult to control the volume of our thoughts. That's a big reason why it affects our focus. And because our mind is tense, it causes our body to tense up as well in the form of jitteriness and fidgeting. That's why they say one of the best treatments for ADHD is meditation, because the goal of meditation is to completely calm the body + mind(remove physical + mental tension) through controlled deep breathing. Meditation can be done anytime anywhere too, whether at work or at home relaxing. I try to make a habit of meditating when I lay down for bed, before I go to sleep. It helps me fall asleep faster too

[Aagje Doeken]

Yes!!!!!! This is me!!!

[B Rain]

My 9 year old son was diagnosed with both recently and also started this year at a school for gifted kids, and your comment about having imposter syndrome really resonated with me. He seems quite comfortable but I myself keep comparing him to other kids with autism or his classmates and second guess both his diagnoses and his giftedness… it’s not a healthy thing but if I’m honest that’s something I do struggle with internally, and hearing you say something similar about yourself was helpful to normalize my thoughts. I appreciate this video ❤

[Ignace Alli]

Thank you Dr Oyalo for healing my son from autism. And I want to share about him to every one His herbs has made my son verbal and Improve in social skills

[Inga Bergman]

I was undiagnosed up until just a couple of years ago, my parents insisted that I just wasn't trying hard enough at the whole... being an adult thing and kept getting frustrated with me when I couldn't do the thing, my Dad, especially. This changed when my Dad went to a course for parents of autistic children after one of my stepsisters got diagnosed with it and he recognized me in the behavioral parents described, he suddenly became my main supporter and driving force in my getting diagnosed after years of being told I was essentially being too sensitive and after just three talks with an actual professional over skype, I was diagnosed with ADD and Autism. My Dad now checks up with me every now and then to ask if I need help with the things he previously expected me to be able to just do, I live in my own apartment now thanks to him.

[Ignace Alli]

Thank you Dr Oyalo for healing my son from autism. And I want to share about him to every one His herbs has made my son verbal and Improve in social skills

[Laura Hodson]

Your Dad is a truly wonderful human being. To be open to having his mind changed and then to adjust his behaviour towards you. Cherish this man! I hope he gets a damn good dose of good karma his way for his actions :)

[Olga]

Ur dad is the best!🥹

[Cristee Buser]

I don’t think I’ve ever felt more perfectly described. I was diagnosed at 30 with ADHD, and that has opened my eyes SOO much. But I have been feeling like there’s more to it than just that. I beat myself up all the time for not understanding myself, but it think seeing this just helped clarify. Definitely going to schedule another evaluation for myself. ❤

[Ignace Alli]

Thank you Dr Oyalo for healing my son from autism. And I want to share about him to every one His herbs has made my son verbal and Improve in social skills

[Cristee Buser]

“Mess in my head” that’s exactly it.

[Craftygirlheather]

O my what you wrote is exactly what I felt. I said out loud watching video. It’s so clear now. I get it. I get all this mess in my head

[Sara Rose]

You might be happy to know that recognition of this is starting to change. My therapist told me that ADHD is on the same spectrum and has lots of overlap, she thinks that's why I was misdiagnosed for so long. Thank you for making these videos. This made everything my therapist has been saying for months finally click for me. I've been struggling with the imposter feelings and feeling like there are two versions of my fighting each other, and now I feel like both sides of me thew up their hands and said "FINALLY, SHE GETS IT!" lol.

[pulveris bonux]

I relate to every single word that you've said in this video. I've only seen one other content creator speak about this, and she shared exactly the same points that you did. Im literally crying tears of joy rn because it feels like you've just presented a narrative of my life. Im currently going through ASD and ADHD assessment, Im really hoping that I get acknowledged and can get proper treatment. No other descriptions of mental health issues fit me, and trust me- I've researched so many mental health conditions, and I've joined online communities to see if these people are relatable to me... Please keep speaking about this! I want to know more. I want to know what your childhood was like, how you experienced high-school, how you dealt with transitions, how you were doing with first jobs, how you entered adulthood, and how you did in university. If someone knows content creators or writers who talk about these experiences with dual diagnosis, I'd appreciate it if someone shared it with me. I want to know so much more.

[Amethyst]

This feels really eye opening. I’ve been diagnosed with ADHD for about a decade now but I’ve never felt like most of the other people that strictly have ADHD. I resonated so much with each of these points

[Ruthanne Erickson]

Thank you. I'm 54 and was just dx with both a few months ago. All this inner conflict makes sense now. Years of confusion and emotional struggle has taken it's toll. Now I ask, "Who am I...really?"

[Ash 스테이티니 Webb]

The fact that I was SO distracted by the green light in your glasses moving around so I had to stare at your necklace really just speaks to my ADHD. I have wondered about the autism side and especially after all the things that you said really spoke to me. The inner conflict being the biggest one that I notice. I am agoraphobic, but I get super bored all the time. I want to talk to people, but then it becomes too much. I get overstimulated very easily, but since I'm home often I am not stimulated enough. It's so exhausting to deal with everyday.

[Cynthia Jones]

🙋 word for word, all of it, exactly the same here. That green circle light too. 🤮

[Ash 스테이티니 Webb]

@strawberry dialectics the only game that I play that has any interactions with others currently is Dead By Daylight. I only have it on switch though so can't actually talk to anyone, but from the way the community is in that game... I'm glad I can't see what they have to say sometimes. Lol

[strawberry dialectics]

i relate to this exactly. i describe myself as usually i like to observe social things but not have expectations put on myself that i will take part. do you by any chance play videogames? getting into an mmorpg or some type of online game where you interact with orther people in some way could add some activity without pressure? i play ffxiv and other things. feels like im around people every day but i truly socialize very rarely

[KP]

Omg same. I had to close my eyes and focus on what she was saying because the reflection in her glasses was SO distracting

[Alice McGee]

Ikr lol

[Heyo_C_O]

My daughter was diagnosed with both - adhd was the first actual diagnosis because apparently the psychologist didn't want to diagnosis the autism until she was a little older (6 years old is what they said at the time so that was almost 12 years ago now... always thought that was strange too) but her pediatrician somehow recognized both by age 2! Thanks for the informative videos - I'll be sharing your channel with her

[Wayward Python]

Hi Sam. I came here via your discussion with Purple Ella about autism and ADHD. I’m waiting on an ADHD diagnosis, but at the age of 54 it’s been a bit of a shock to learn that I might have autism too (although not so much of a shock, given how it explains so much). Your video has really helped to clarify why I experience life the way I do, but also the struggle I have with feeling that I’m not ADHD ‘enough’ or autistic ‘enough’ to qualify. Of course my neurodivergence means I’ll now be obsessively watching all your videos… Anyway, I just wanted to say thank you.

[L. Beukema]

This is so relatable! Al 5 Points that you mention I recognize very well. My biggest conflict is between staying at home and caring for my animals on one side and the my love for travelling on the other side. The first catering to my autistic side and the latter to my ADHD side. I have two friends with the double diagnoses and you are right we recognize a lot in each other too. Thank you for making this video!

[Sam's Mom]

The thing you mentioned about the uncontrollable need for organization and the utter chaos ADHD brings really hit home for me. At work, I was highly organized, focused and productive. Whereas at home I have doom piles everywhere and get easily distracted when I find things in those doom piles I haven't seen in a while or forgot I had them or so overwhelmed I don'tknow where to start, so I don't start. I also notice with me, if it's out of sight, it's out of my mind. I don't like different noises coming at me at the same time (sensory overload). I also can read people with surprising accuracy the first time I meet them. I also shut down at times. My two major fixations are archeology and building miniatures, but I have other fixations that I will become obsessed with and study everything I can find on it. I also have bouts of insomnia followed by days where I'll sleep 10 hours. I think my dad may be on the autistic spectrum (mild) and undiagnosed. It is refreshing to listen to you explain your conflicting emotions that are at odds with each other, which I experience all the time. Thank you for being brave enough to share your story. Much respect to you 🙏

[Allison Kelly]

Thank you so much for making this video! I really identify with everything you talked about here and it’s really made a lot of things just click for me on this journey of self discovery that I’m currently on. I have understood for a while now that I am ADHD ,yet some things have felt a bit contradictory with how I operate. But now these things are starting to make sense. More intense special interests for shorter periods of time alongside some longer lasting ones ,oh yea, that’s all me…

[sarah Alexander]

1:57 conflict between contradictory traits 2:47 balancing traits 4:07 special interests 5:56 different version of self 6:59 relating to people with dual diagnosia

[Dethmunki]

You're doing God's work

[laura]

🤍

[RuthMcDougal]

Yes! Pretty sure my traits masked each other really well growing up. Combined with the fact that many girls are undiagnosed. I could talk about this for quite a bit. I really felt like an alien outsider with neurotypical people for the most part. But sometimes I feel that way with autistic people or adhd people who don’t have a dual diagnosis. For many reasons you mentioned. Masking is exhausting. My best friend has both and that kind of clicked for me too. When I got my adhd diagnosis I felt like a lot of it was missing. Before even that, I kept thinking one or the other. And then the doctor accused me of downplaying my adhd traits. Horrible experience. Later found out from a a dif practitioner about AuDHD. That feels the most accurate to me.

[CAPTAIN CLOCK]

This video, of course, was brought to me by the algorithm, but it came at a very good time. I have always felt fundamentally different from my peers. I have about three friends who are similar to me, one of them diagnosed ADHD. I've always thought that some of my struggles are not characteristic of "normal people" and that something must be wrong with me. Everything socialization I do is completely mechanical. Every "good morning", "how are you", "thank you" I've ever said, I had to think about and consciously make a choice to say. I have zero habit forming abilities. Every single time I'm gonna watch a show I promise to myself "I'm just gonna watch one or a couple episodes a day, and within a couple of months I'll have finished the show" except that never happens. This also happens with playing story-driven videogames, practicing skills, reading books and writing. Every single time I want to do something consistently, I drop it within a week, because I simply forget that I was trying to do it in the first place. What complicates things most is that I already have had a neuropsychological evaluation, and it came back "normal". I felt sort of betrayed at the time, not because I was "chasing the diagnosis" but because that meant I wouldn't get any type of treatment for the condition(s) I _knew_ I had. The special interest thing is also very very present in me. Even my therapist once said that I'm a "jack of all trades, master of none". Some things I've gotten interested in are: 3D graphics, certain videogames, certain books, singing, screaming, music production, typing. Some of these are more long-lived but I never ever engage with any of them for more than two weeks. It's really frustrating and I would very much like to get diagnosed just so I can "fix" this about myself. I've never really been a dedicated student or hobbyist or anything... because I just forget about it.

[moOnB0w]

Omg you're literally describing my life TO A TEE! The whole thing about being "too much" for people with ASD while most of your friends (most of whom have ADHD or other nuerodivergencies) overwhelm you, I can totally relate to. I have always wondered about that too!

[Sam Dooley]

I haven't been formally diagnosed but I relate a lot to what you said about ADHD traits masking Autism traits and vice versa. For example, I often get excited in conversations and want to talk over other people. But I have learnt that this is against the rules of social interaction and I do whatever i can to not break these rules. Or the fact i lose track of time easily and underestimate how longs things take, but part of my is very strict about not being late so im generally on time for things and don't hand in assignments late. Because that's against the Rules™️

[Lenticular Cloud]

You just made me feel normal! I think that's me too. No personal diagnosis (never attempted), but many other close family and friends (all hang out happily together). The house thing: all of it (mess haha, boredom ah dear), safety, castle walls), the overexcited rambling and enthusiasm whilst others patiently wait for a silent moment, the intensity of distractions (mini interests, many on the go at once)... Thank you for showing me this! Also true re outward chattiness more of a problem of not being able to stop the blurt! Social awkwardness / dread of public events. I'm older than you, undiagnosed, and I'm going to share this with family and friends and see what they think? All the best.

[Kylie Carpenter]

When I was 9 or 10 I was “diagnosed” with Sensory processing disorder (it’s not an actual separate diagnosis in the dsm). Fast forward to probably 5 years ago when my best friend was diagnosed with ADHD and told me I should look into it too. I did ALL the research and really resonated with a lot of it. I thought I finally found the answer to my weirdness that no one understood, but there was parts of it that I didn’t entirely agree with. A couple years later I learned about autism and for the first time I was like WOW, THIS IS EXACTLY ME! I started thinking well maybe I’m just autistic instead of having adhd, but the more I research, the more I’m leaning towards both. Sometimes it seems my adhd comes out more, and sometimes the autism comes out. It has always felt like a constant tug of war game in my head, and it’s exhausting especially around people.

[Tank Girl]

You can actually be diagnosed with sensory processing disorder and NOT be diagnosed with Autism. But you cannot be diagnosed with Autism and not be diagnosed with SPD. So yes actually according to the DSMIV, they are two separate diagnoses that often work in tandem.

[Pateck Aaron]

Your herbs has work wonders in my family. Thanks for the help Dr Oyalo for saving my son from autism spectrum with your herbs. Your herbs is the best

[karina]

same!! this is the first time i’ve seriously considered having both and it makes way too much sense. i rly don’t understand my social battery, sometimes i’ll be craving interaction so badly and set up plans etc. and other times i have to stay home from work bc i can’t handle it…now that i think ab it, i get why i have difficulty staying in friend groups

[Tina Wilstrup]

I agree with pretty much everything, except the organizing / clutter part 🙈 thank you for this, because the differences from either diagnosis honestly makes me feel like an imposter. I want to stay home because of overstimulation but also get bored. I have both ongoing and short term hyper focus. And I totally miss sleep over both 🙈🤣 I'm almost 44 and I had my autism diagnosis 1,5 years ago - thanks to watching a few of your videos 🙌 - and a couple months later my therapist added ADD. Luckily she's done a lot of studies on adhd and the overlap of autism. People say "but you don't need a diagnosis". Yes, you do. After being diagnosed I finally understood all the "wrongs" in my life. So THANK YOU!! ❤️

[Esra Er]

I've been watching lots of videos about ADHD and Autism lately and you Sam are the only one I related to the most. In the house my ADHD is dominant but at work my Autism kicks in whilst my ADHD tries to break in as well. I'm not even oficially diagnosed but I personally know diagnosed people that tell me I probably have ADHD and the Autism is just too obvious. I'm trying to get diagnosed, figure out what's wrong with this brain of mine but thank you for sharing this video, very informative and made me feel understood!! ♥

[Leslie Ann Kelly]

I feel like you've hit the nail on the head explaining my life. It's hard bc I feel like I have both but anyone I've seen only diagnoses me with adhd. And I literally have all these signs.

[michael G.]

Very recognizeable indeed! I have a diagnosis of ASD but not ADHD although I always suspected ADD (I don't tend to get very hyper). My friends would always be bemuzed about yet another activity/hobby that I would throw myself into and since I got so obsessed that I too would often continue until late at night or not sleep because I had to think everything through, I tended to get quite good at a lot of things relatively quickly, but then after a weeks or months, whatever the obsession was would be shelved. The dopamine rush of finding a new activity has become less as I get older, it seems. It still happens (mechanical watch repair and card weaving being the latest two) but my energy levels don't seem to be able to sustain the intensity of the past... Very interesting video and thanks for this. The recognition helped :)

[lilmissflutterby]

Yes! The whole, social awkwardness and social butterfly combined totally describes one of my (many) oddities. Thank you for this video. I dont have an official dual diagnosis, but one of my docs did bring up the possibility of also being on the spectrum.

[Jessica Brauman]

I've found myself recently being kind of upset with my old school teachers and with my parents for not picking up on my ADHD. I was the kid that was always late to class, never had my homework done, never brought the right supplies for the class, lost all my notes and handouts, etc. I was struggling so much in school I have been wondering how nobody thought to question it. But what you said about traits of autism and ADHD masking each other has me wondering a bit. Because even though I really struggled with those things, I always had good grades because I picked things up quickly, and I answered questions in class and was polite and well behaved because my social skills weren't at a level to be flexible with my behaviour. And when I picture this, I feel maybe a little more sympathy for those people in my life who didn't notice how badly I needed help.

[Julie Campagna]

Same. Later in life I chose a job with a flexible schedule so I wouldn’t have the anxiety of being late. I missed the school bus so much that my mom bought me a public transport pass in 6th grade. In high school I don’t know how many times I walked (I was too much to handle for my mom and she sent me to my dad, who thought that walking and being late at school and getting grounded and missing activities would « break » my inability to catch the bus). Sigh.

[Butthole Surfers]

If it’s any consolation, it literally does not matter. I was diagnosed as extreme adhd and autistic at a young age, the latter half of which they ignored and opted not to tell me until after I had been re diagnosed as an adult because “you seemed so smart” and not only did I receive literally zero of the support that was promised to me by the school system, but in fact i was surrounded by adults who actively disparaged me from grades 0 to 12. I was kicked out of honors classes with A’s because I “did not care about the class.” I was not given the extra time that I needed to finish tests or homework because “I saw you staring into space, you’re just wasting time!” I was not given thorough explanations for assignments because “You’re just being difficult.” This pretty much set me up for failure from day 1 and as an adult I am finding it nearly impossible to overcome the trauma and bad habits instilled in me as a form of “treatment.” I am The only thing that could’ve been worse is if I was subjected to ABA, which is truly just child abuse and ableism. Every autistic child who survives true ABA says the same thing: that it was the worst shit that ever happened to them. fact is, being autistic is a neurotype, not a disorder, and the double empathy problem keeps neurotypical from meeting us in the middle, instead forcing us to meet them where they’re at or be excluded from society and left as a suicide or filicide casualty.

[Jasper H.]

@Pateck Aaron you should stop with this and give your son the time and space to be verbal and responsive whenever he wants instead of pushing what you want. We like to take the time for these things haha

[Debra Deniston]

I’ve wondered if I’m ADHD too but didn’t know how to tell other than, as you said, relating to people…. Which is exactly what made me think I might be both! I still can’t say but I’ve watched 2 of your videos and you’ve talked about things that have been on my mind, which is interesting. I quit trying to peg myself anyway. Instead am just learning about the things that make sense to me as I’m ready for it. I’m glad purplella turned us on to your channel. I’ve subscribed 👍

[SparkSovereign]

I grew up around many people with moderate to severe autism (hopefully that phrasing isn't insulting), and behaved very differently from them. But more recently I'd definitely noticed that some of my friends would describe behaviors of theirs that I also do as part of their autism, and figured maybe I should look into this after the recent ADHD diagnosis (which was life changing in the best way)...a lot of what you said here resonated, especially the conflicting need for order and excitement, and the specific manifestations of social behavior. Wasn't going to self diagnose off a KZbin video anyway, but I appreciate you explicitly telling people that anyway! Time to do some more research before talking to my therapist again.

[Brookes]

Oh god 🙈 I was diagnosed with dyslexia at 8 years old. Became so obsessed with learning about it that I became a teacher. While doing a certificate in dyslexia they touched on other diagnosis that can be related - adhd. I’m now in the process of being diagnosed with adhd. I never associated my traits with autism at all because I’ve always liked being around others (as long as I like them!) but listening to you it sounds very very very familiar!

[Lisa Walls]

My ASD son is severely dyslexic and actually went to a special school for dyslexics for two years. The kids were very friendly, and about half were on the spectrum and more than half showed ADD/ADHD traits. But they were all pretty social because they were with their tribe. The ASD kids felt a comfort level with the others that allowed them to be themselves and not worry if someone acted differently. The most important thing was no one called them "weird." I like being around others, too, but after my ASD diagnosis at 19 I have finally learned over 30 years later to be very picky about who that is. 😉

[Ignace Alli]

Thank you Dr Oyalo for healing my son from autism. And I want to share about him to every one His herbs has made my son verbal and Improve in social skills

[ladykupo]

This is interesting to me. I was thoroughly tested for autism and I don't have it. I was always worried I might, but I've been seeing mental health professionals my entire life almost due to a traumatic childhood. I am, however, diagnosed with ADHD (inattentive type). I've been in therapy and in support groups for ADHD, specifically how it is present in women, since it can be very different. But a few things you mentioned don't seem like an ASD/ADHD overlap. For example, I need a lot of time to recharge my social batteries after being social. A ton of my fellow ADHD folks share this as well. My ADHD specialist told me this is very much an inattentive type symptom of ADHD. There are a few others like this as well that you mentioned. I think it can be harmful to say this overlap can cause these symptoms, because these symptoms alone are ADHD. The symptoms are expanding now, as the mental health professionals gain a better understanding of ADHD and autism. I just don't necessarily agree that these mean an overlap. I feel I can't relate to my ADHD peers that are very hyperactive, because I've never experienced that. I do agree, some of them make sense. I'm not discrediting this completely. There were just a few specifically that are very much adhd traits.

[Tara A]

Yes, I have inattentive ADHD and same. Definitely not autistic.

[Wolfgang Bailey]

I got my ADHD diagnosis last year at 35, and my assessor said he was extremely confident about ADHD but spent more of the assessment seeing if he could also get an autism diagnosis, but too many of my autism presentations are overlaps with ADHD. I relate HARD to that desire to go outside and do things socially but then not enjoying the "out" or the "things" as much as I should because of sensory stuff. I was actually at a gig last night and had to try very hard to keep myself calm whilst there was no spot in the whole venue where I could see well, hear well, and be comfortable. Worse for my fiancé because at least I'm 6 foot, so there were more spots where I could see from.

[videocliplover]

“the person who doesn’t want to talk at all in a crowd, but also the one who can’t stop talking sometimes” I thought I was the only one who goes through this! I used to bawl at home growing up because of this stress! Thank you for sharing your experiences. I was diagnosed with ADHD at age 8 and was told by 10 different doctors that I was too talkative to have what is now fully called autism spectrum disorder. I have always gravitated to people who have either, especially those on the autism spectrum. At 34 I’m finally getting assessed a week from now!

[Pateck Aaron]

Your herbs has work wonders in my family. Thanks for the help Dr Oyalo for saving my son from autism spectrum with your herbs. Your herbs is the best

[Yuqing Lee]

Thank you doc for your good work It’s been months now and my child has improved completely since using your herbs. His therapist and school teacher has confirmed his improvement and this makes me happy

[Nuclear Cat Baby]

Oh yes that’s me. Get me started and I won’t shut up. But when I’m out in public I often keep categorically silent because I’m afraid of saying something inappropriate and getting arrested for it.

[Tappajahauki]

Been seeing your videos in my suggestions for some time since I watch lots of Purple Ella's vids, so glad I finally clicked on one - you're unbelievably charismatic presenter 😱 I was mesmerised watching the video from start to end and let me tell you that Does Not happen often lol. Currently in the process of trying to figure out if I could be auADHDer myself, content like this is a really vital part of process, thank you so much Sam!!!

[JiMbLiiM_SaN]

Wow!! Like literally it's so hard to explain because only the last few months I've been trying to seek a diagnosis for ADHD but lately been thinking I may have both and these traits that you have explained are traits that I have. I always have these feelings of inner conflict. I feel like I really can't be bothered to do the dishes but then this voice tells me I can't deal with the clutter, mess, disorder and carnage so I have to clean everything and put everything away to feel more at ease. I want to get out and love life, but then I get overwhelmed by people and my surroundings. If it's too busy, I just shut down. I really feel different from everyone I work with. I talk and talk and talk utter nonsense that no one has an interest in and I've never known why. I forget things all the time and zone out but then on other days I literally hyper focus and do everything I need to in a short space of time. It's crazy.

[lou baxter]

I do have a dual diagnosis and it's wonderful to hear people talking about this, there's not enough out there. I really relate to the socialising aspect and also your description of short hyperfixations that then change but perhaps long term ones running along in the background. thank you !

[David Hill]

I think I relate to almost all the traits you mentioned. Except for the part about friends. I have never had many, but I'm intensely loyal to those who I consider friends, and very attached. At most I would have maybe 2 friends at any period of my life. Odd that I can get along with almost all the people who I have been thrown together with and enjoy their company, while knowing I'm vastly different, and could never have much in common.

[Mary Notess]

I don't have any diagnoses (yet) but I can relate to your "not relating to people with one diagnosis" bit. Like "yeah, maybe kind of, but also not..." Also with conflicting personality traits, though not 100% the same as you described of course. One thing for me with the special interests thing is (now) I get overwhelmed with the thing I'm particularly interested in 😂

[Mad Scientist Soaps]

"Needing people to be quiet around me so I can be noisy" hit one of my nails on the head and made me chuckle! I'm 48 and only just figured out I'm ASD/ADHD/CPTSD. Videos like this really help. Thanks ❤

[Pateck Aaron]

I also saw his recommendation and approach Dr Oyalo for the herbs on KZbin. The herbs has so far work positive on my child’s eye contacts and speech improvement. My child social skill is good now and response to name has improved too

[Evelyn]

adhd + cptsd (& suspected asd). This video made me tear up…because it felt like an accurate- entire- description of myself. I feel less alone after watching and reading the comments- my gosh.

[flootzavut]

44 & same.

[Windy Kellems]

I keep wondering if I have both, but I don't have struggles with social things. I do kind of feel like I am an outsider observing my own social interactions, though; like, it isn't just effortless and intuitive, it's conscious knowledge of how to do social skills. Maybe that's a sign that I did struggle but I adapted well because my special interests mostly center on people (language and culture, communication, sociology, etc). It doesn't feel hard, necessarily, but I do get drained like an introvert even though I'm really not one. I love peopley things but I need a break after performing all day. So, autistic? Lol. IDK. I have ADHD for sure, but I don' t seem to have all of the struggles. I've noticed recently that I make intense eye contact when I'm actively listening and trying to telegraph attention, but I tend not to when I'm just interacting with friends in general. It doesn't, like, hurt or stress me out or anything, I just...don't. It's kind of all or nothing. I feel like I can listen better when I am not making eye contact, unless the person is signing (I'm an ASL interpreter so eye contact is required for those conversations). Like maintaining the eye contact takes brain energy, I guess. So IDK. Is it just my quirks or could it be more? IDK what a dual diagnosis would really do for me, so I'm just mostly curious. I don't have enough struggles that I would need accommodations for anything, so not sure I would pursue it. I'm just wondering. It's like I found my people when I got my ADHD diagnosis and then I realized I'm still kind of an outsider. :/

[Sina aka Potato Supreme]

Thank you for making this video. Just like ADHD I think autism in women is very under diagnosed because the media (and with that the main first information for parents) show these diagnosis as typical "little boy" problems. I am thankful for everyone who brings awareness to this topic. I am diagnosed with both BPD and ADHD, though the ADHD traits only got more visible after I had been in therapy for BPD since the similarities "masked" the ADHD and made a separate diagnosis difficult. And treating the BPD was also more urgent (together with several comorbidities). Personally I don't think I have autism, my ADHD traits more overlap with the BPD symptoms, but I think the more I understand about all parts of this disorder, the better I can form strategies that help me navigate my life as good as I can. That would maybe also an interesting triangle to look into. Similarities ADHD, Autism, and BPD. Even without an autism diagnose, when certain life strategies work for me, it would be stupid not to use them. That's how I quilt my personal skill blanket with inspirations from wherever.

[Bramblestar334]

4:28 I'm fairly confident that I have both autism and adhd, despite not being diagnosed with either yet (although I am in the process of getting evaluated for autism!) and this describes me almost perfectly. I'll have pretty long special interests that are usually pretty prominent for months but even after I become slightly less interested, I'll still end up infodumping if someone mentions them. Yet I'll also have smaller hyperfixations that maybe last a week, where I'm focused on a certain character or story within my larger special interest or just something completely random until my brain decides to focus on something else.

[Gigi Boyce]

Very much everything you shared! I've always experienced this constant inner conflict between opposite thoughts and needs, and never fit into any one category, very isolating and painful. Like I'm unable to find any peer support group etc, because I'm filled with conflicting attributes and don't "fit" anywhere. This discussion was helpful in addressing this, thank you.

[Keith Winget]

I was diagnosed with ADHD as a child. Medication only partially worked, but it also caused other weird symptoms that couldn't be explained well at the time. Basically, it turned me into a human zombie. Given the pretty much 1:1 matchup I've experienced with what you were describing here, I suspect there may be a strong case for a dual diagnosis for me, then. I especially can resonate with the early shyness leading into overly-talkative-ness later on. I tend to function best when my energy is at a very specific level. If it's too high, I have to let it out so-to-speak. I talk too much, whistle, sing etc...just so long as I'm not in a setting where I'd be too overwhelmed by people noticing. If it's too low, I just seek the easiest, simplest task I possibly can do by myself and do it at a slow pace. These are my most normal, unbothered states. If there are consequences to doing something or not doing something, I pretty much automatically fall into line with avoiding those consequences. So, I'll always get my job done for the most part. I'll always remember my wallet. Things like that with very obvious and mortifying consequences (to me) are easy to remember and be motivated to do. Things like cleaning and organizing (even though I HATE being disorganized!) are not. You might think, "why don't you consider your own hate of disorganization as a consequence then?" I'd say, "That is an excellent question. I wish I had a good answer for you." What I really want fixed is my inability to stick with and finish projects. I design and develop games independently, and I'm skilled enough I should have successful projects out there already. Yet, I keep getting a certain amount done, then drifting away from it toward another project or another interest. It's not as if I don't want to finish the project. I have ideas to all the time. I write them down and everything. It's just that, when I sit down to actually do it, I can't. It's just a blank. Sometimes, if I can just get started again, it's enough to go for a while more. Other times it's never enough. It always seems to end in 'never enough'. In fact, I'm writing this comment when I otherwise would like to be working on a current project, but I've tried all day to make myself work on it. It just hasn't happened. So, it's back to the dead-end job again tomorrow, where I at least have brainless mundane tasks I can do without having to think about them or even care that much. Funnily enough, I set about my job tasks as if I do care very much, but I suspect that's out of some sort of sense of being constantly judged. I don't know for sure. I don't consider any of this nailed-down truth. At the end of the day, I'm an unreliable narrator of my life at best. I'd like to think I'm playing it honest, but I don't know if I can even know that for sure, given what I have learned about how memory actually works. I can write halfway decently, though. Does anybody need someone to write for them? ;)

[Rabia]

I was one of those people who was diagnosed with ADHD first prior to 2013 (when you couldn't have both an ASD & ADHD diagnosis) and just recently diagnosed as an Autistic. It didn't help that there is little to no research on Autistic adults (or in my case Black women) and even fewer involving Autistic + ADHD (dual diagnosis) individuals. The lack of research led me to panic before my assessment and kinda psych myself out but eventually getting answers *for me* was the best decision! Thanks Sam! You've been a big help during the process!

[Jim Williams]

@Jade I know what you mean about gatekeeping. I watched a pretty good ADDitude Magazine webinar with William Dodson at one point, and he was really ripping the DSM, one comment was that to pass the criteria, an adult would have to present as an untreated primary school student. So my concern with diagnosis is to get an assessor that can understand nuance. Especially since I have “comorbidities” (not fond of that term) that modulate traits in the way Sam describes. Like my hypervigilence keeps my inattentiveness somewhat in bounds.

[Rabia]

@RachDoesMagic You're so right! There's so little on either condition and even less when it comes to anyone who isn't cis, white, and male. Mainly male because ladies and gender non-conforming folks of any race have little to no research either. So glad you had that aha moment to lead you on your path to an evaluation. I hear ya on the missed appointments 😂 ("I had an appointment?" 🤔 was so me, so I get it). Ugh those waiting lists are so eternal 😭 I was on a list while also searching for alternatives and as soon as I got diagnosed I gotta call from the wait list that I had a slot open. I hope you can find someone suitable for you. If you haven't already try using the Psychology Today website to find a professional.

[Matt Graham]

Well that's fascinating. I often feel in conflict; wanting a routine but can't stick to it, striving to be rational but getting easily frustrated, I can get overstimulated and under stimulated. I definitely relate to seeming shy at first and took some time to warm up to people, but I still go absolutely silent around a few people and occasionally can't stop talking. I also relate to the interests and hyperfixations; I'll be 34 in a couple of months and I've only just figured out something I feel comfortable focusing on as a career, because I genuinely like too many things. I wonder if getting a diagnosis would be beneficial.

[Christopher Smith]

This makes so much sense. I'm in my 30s, and was diagnosed with ADHD about a year ago. Since then I've felt out of balance. One half of my brain now has more dominance than the other, and it's a struggle. But if I stop managing my ADHD I'll be going back to a place that made me feel perpetually guilty/ashamed. I guess I should talk to a professional 🤷

[aliceinnude]

I am only diagnosed with adhd but relate to this so much. Particularly the part about feeling overstimulated in outside environments and having more adhd symptoms in the home.

[Joy Manion]

Thank you!!! For years the people closest to me have been saying “you’re waaay on the spectrum” but equally I can be super social and personable. I have the attention span of a fly and have had hundreds of intense hobbies over my 50 years but I also have some long running passions too. I get very intense about my short term hobbies, probably in a weird way, I feel the need to share them with everyone around me, whether they’re interested or not and I can’t help myself! This is great news, I’m completely normal for me, for a given value of normal! 😅

[Alex M]

The whole imposter syndrome thing is SO REAL. I got diagnosed with ADHD recently (and have been asked multiple times why I wasn't diagnosed as a child -- that was the masking, bestie!) and then I realized I was having a "either autistic people need to stop being relatable or i need to do some more research" moment. It all makes sense and lines up with my experiences. Other autistic people have said they think I'm autistic. But for some reason I'm still like "I cant believe I cheated on the ADHD/Autism test". how would i even do that!! anyway, this was very validating and i think eventually i'll stop feeling like i'm somehow faking 😅

[A Little Bit Glitchy]

This video made so much sense to me. I've been diagnosed with ADHD since first grade, but I've never felt like I was as at ease with socializing among other things as other people with just ADHD. Recently I've been genuinely questioning if I was autistic because I've had sensory issues, shutdowns, meltdowns, troubles keeping or making friends, gone non-verbal and much more. My parents have always told me "I definitely don't have it" for the longest time, so I believed them. But now I know they're not the best parents, and I've questioned myself through my standards more. However, I've never really related to only autistic people either. It makes so much sense now that I might have both. Thank you, seriously. Edit: 69 likes lmao

[A Little Bit Glitchy]

@Jordyn Crawford I wish you the best!

[Jordyn Crawford]

@A Little Bit Glitchy unfortunately not. It's too expensive to get an autism assessment now that I'm an adult. I'm trying to save as much as I can, but it won't be happening anytime soon : (

[A Little Bit Glitchy]

@Daddy Blue Jay That's both awesome (shared experiences) and horrible. Hope you figure yourself out!

[Jolinde van Dijk]

Whoa, that is incredibly helpful. I was diagnosed with autism two years ago but kind of feel that it isn't 'complete' (like you already said in the video). Thanks for sharing this, I recognized myself in several of the points you mentioned!

[Rick Rolled Reviews]

This was so helpful and definitely explains a lot about my own imposter syndrome - I definitely think I have both

[Michaela Deen]

I was diagnosed adhd as a child as was my brother. Growing up though I still felt different than him. Like societly he didn’t seem to have the same problems as I. Then as I got older anxiety and depression set in from autism burnout and masking. Didn’t know that’s what it was at the time. Finally a couple of years ago after seeing one of your videos about autism I was like hey that’s me! So now I know that I do indeed have both and though it doesn’t make it any easier it is comforting to have a label and an explanation for my struggles; to know that I’m not just awful or a failure. And it’s nice seeing other people that I can relate to.

[Stefanie Jahn]

Thanks, this explains a lot of the things that just don't seem to add up since I was diagnosed with ADHD. I have startet to suspect I may have both but haven't met anyone before who actually has both conditions confirmed. I have a lot of those conflicting needs or traits.

[KKPaaw]

This video is really helping me come to a realization that I may possibly have ADHD and Autusm. Everything you have said in this video os something i experience almost to a T that it's kind of scary how accurate these points are to my life. I've always suspected or even wondered if i have had one or both traits at one point in my life but have always been scared to brign it up to any doctors cuz 1, I'm a black person who's family pretends these things don't exist and 2, I never felt like i fell within the range that would "qualify" me. But this has fueled me to possibly get a diagnosis cuz it may help me out. Thank you so much for this video you really opened my eyes

[Mitchell Turner]

Everything resonated. From the contradictory traits (being loud while expecting others to be quiet), the different traits from ADHD and autism coming out in different environments, being perceived as not as autistic as people expect, having a group of friends who are too much for you sometimes. This felt so validating thank you for sharing

[Ignace Alli]

I used this doc herbs for my son and now my son is completely free, his speaking and behavior is ok. His herbs is 100% working on ASD. I met Dr Oyalo on channel and I’m happy to share my experience about it

[Me Here]

lol yeh the loud/quiet my family used to always pull me up on as a kid & even without that, I'd be screaming at them all to shut up & just exploding cause of the noise/stimulation, while actually overstimulating them with my screaming about the noise

[Gray Wing]

I’ve always thought I was a “social introvert” (reserved around strangers, talkative around friends, but still need to be alone a lot), but this actually makes a lot more sense.

[Alfonzo]

It all resonates with me. I have ADHD and always wondered if I had a little side serving of autism. I only got diagnosed with ADHD when I was 39. I have been wondering if I should seek a diagnosis of autism, will speak to doc and see what they think about pursuing it. I always dismissed autism because I've always been very social but I do "disappear" as my friends call it. I end up exhausted and just don't want to see anyone for weeks, sometimes months now that I am older. Luckily my friends seem to understand. They call me the enigma and the walking contradiction 😂

[Vince B]

I think of it as the classic 'angel on one shoulder and devil on the other' situation, with the autism as the order and routine-loving angel and the ADHD devil regularly whispering in my ear to throw it all up in the air for that sweet dopamine hit. Thank you for this video - I will be subscribing and watching more of your stuff!

[Zsuzsanna Pongrácz]

this was the single most relatable video in existence, also because being a parent and frankly drained all the time can mask my adhd a lot - who has energy for dozens of project when sleep exist... thank you for making this video!

[Therese D´Ascoli]

Your video has helped me tremendously. It is still all very confusing because I'm almost 60 now and have never been diagnosed with anything. I suppose I have always been high-functioning (while quietly suffering). It's my daughter who has called my attention to the idea that WE are both neurodiverse and this double whammy of ADHD and AUTISM was a shock but damn it does ring true for both of us. In my spare time, I try to educate/help myself. That's how I found you. THANKS SO MUCH

[Travelersjoy]

Jeez, this is...more relatable than I expected. I've been diagnosed with ADHD since middle school, but I've always struggled socially due to being easily tired out and overwhelmed by people. At first my family just thought it was anxiety, but once I grew more confident and aware of the fact that people actually like me....nothing about my interactions with people changed at all. I was still overwhelmed all the time and seemingly standoffish. I'd be more reluctant to consider the possibility of having ASD if it wasn't so common in my family. On both my mom and my dad's side of the family. So uh...thanks for giving me something to think about, this could be really helpful. Thanks.

[Comic Sans]

See I need to be I a crowd or with close friends for several hours once in a while to get energized, but then I can't for a long time and I'm super burnt out and snappy. I want to connect with people but it's a lot, so I don't always need it 😕

[toasty_sand]

When I was about four years old, I was diagnosed with high functioning Autism, yet when I was about 12 the diagnosis was replaced with ADHD. I am extremely sociable, yet talking to people in general also tired me out, along with talking to my family as well. I get overwhelmed at times of too much pressure and stress and need my time out or away to think. I can't handle a whole lot at once, I want to process my information because I can skip to conclusions or think something entirely different than what was said if said the wrong way. (There's a weird thing where at times I can process sarcasm but at others it flies over my head) Like what was said in the video, everyone else sees me as a normal person, whereas I have these inner conflicts constantly and always having intense yet short micro-fixations. My boyfriend has Asperger's, and if I had met him when I was younger, I probably would relate to him completely, because when I was younger, I had a lot of sensory issues, like touch (that's a major one). I remember one of my sensory issues was feeling sand and/or sandpaper, or hearing a broom sweep. Nonetheless, I can relate a whole lot to this video and have been trying to find a reason why I feel or act the way I do. It's going to be a fun ride, to say the least. I'm glad this video came up on my feed when I least expect it to be and found like-minded individuals. :)

[lost2whisperz]

I wish you a clarifying journey, dear traveler.

[Sofie Nielsen]

My psychiatrist i had for my ADHD suspected my Autism because i didnt do eye contact and, For some reason, the fact that i used alot of forgin words in my speech, which i still dont get, i know i do it but in my experience alot from my generation does so as well. And of cause im introverted and i focus way better on things that interest me.

[drippin wet]

The over-analysis. We're Malkavians that think we're Noseferatu

[7-Ahead]

Love this! Our son Ezra also has ADHD and Autism, and you hit the nail on the head with this. :) Thank you!

[Ashley LaBrasseur]

I have never related to something more in my entire life than this entire video. I was recently diagnosed with ADHD at 38 years old but I've been thinking that it didn't explain everything. This makes so much sense looking back at, well, my entire freaking life.

[SailorCatWashu]

I always felt like a little related to ADHD and am getting treatment. My best friend and I are similar in many ways, and it was easy to relate to her and some of the things she's been dealing with. I kept saying the same about everything you said, every example you said. This makes me feel less weird or unique and more seen, making it easier to pinpoint the whys. Thank you.

[southpawSara]

I pushed for my own autism diagnosis around the age of 35, after seeing a character like myself on TV (Max, from Parenthood)... the specialist I met with told me that the best he could offer was "probably" when I've told people about it, they've said "I never would have guessed" ...and after meeting other women on the spectrum, I started to question myself... but maybe this is the answer, because it sure did tick some of my boxes and when people describe ADHD I sometimes feel like that describes me too (I usually feel like the autism wins out more frequently, though)

[Holy Catastrophe]

This is very illuminating, thank you. It’s interesting to me how far behind the mental health care industry often is from the new paradigms in mental health as they’re emerging. I was told by my therapist that I can’t have bpd and autism (didn’t even know that this was recently the case with autism and adhd) and yet I come across a new post on social media almost daily of people who believe they may have both and are struggling to understand the connection. I very much appreciate the people who are out there on the front lines sharing the paradigm shifts as they’re happening, before they become conventional wisdom and often before professionals will even acknowledge that there could be merit to them. Hoping to have my suspicion of audhd confirmed someday by a mental health care system that’s more on the pulse of these connections than I am.

[Ignace Alli]

Thank you Dr Oyalo for healing my son from autism. And I want to share about him to every one His herbs has made my son verbal and Improve in social skills

[MuscularClassRepresentative]

Oh man the idea that bipolar and autism can't co-occur is super incorrect. I work at a counseling center that sees a very high number of autistic people all over the spectrum and it really isn't uncommon to see bipolar traits develop out of cyclothymia traits in autistic people who eventually slip into a depression. It's not universal by any means but I would never say it's impossible. This is all going to be different in a few years, this area is so obviously deficient and is going to need a lot of work

[dragonflies]

As someone who views myself as having both ADHD and Autism but due to lack of diagnosis often describes myself as just neurodivergent, watching this was so validating. I was able to recognize how each of these relate to my own life in my own unique ways. :)

[vlewis515]

Same

[oh no!]

ive always been told by doctors and family members both things, that i have adhd, and that i have autism, but never had an official diagnosis.

[weather lover]

EXACTLY!

[Webcorecat]

Same I can relate!

[Courtney Lirette]

I was diagnosed with adhd when u was kid (I'm 34 now) and yep I can relate to literally everything you said. My husband has adhd (like textbook adhd) and I always wondered why his symptoms and mine are so different and yet all the doctors I've ever seen seem to agree that I have adhd.. it's really refreshing to hear that there are other people are out there that experience the same things that I do.. thank you for the video!

[ladykupo]

ADHD presents differently in women, especially if you have an inattentive type and your husband is hyper. I did relate to some of this video as well, but I only have ADHD.

[Lauren McAllister]

Honestly this video just made me cry with how relatable it is. I'm in my mid-30s and not diagnosed, but on my beginning journey to hopefully getting some sort of diagnosis and this really is me to a T. I remember a long time ago when I was a teen, my therapist told me it seemed there was some sort of duality to me and it's been plaguing me ever since. Definitely the inner turmoil and battle between two selves. Damn.

[Ignace Alli]

I used this doc herbs for my son and now my son is completely free, his speaking and behavior is ok. His herbs is 100% working on ASD. I met Dr Oyalo on channel and I’m happy to share my experience about it

[Craftygirlheather]

Me too. I’m like speechless. Almost numb. I feel clear almost now after watching and understanding my messy brain and behavior

[AutisticNess ®]

Totally agree Sam. I realised this in the past couple of years too and you explain it so well. My ADHD brain and my autistic brain are always battling each other for what they each want or prefer. It makes for a very interesting and varied life indeed and explains why so many of us appear so contradictory in our behaviour. Thank you for another really well explained video. There is one thing though - I find the reflection of your halo light on your glasses very distracting 😬

[FAUKER consulting]

💁🏻‍♀️I have been struggling with grasping the concept of a dual diagnosis and other than dealing with various mental health issues I currently am being treated for makes it extremely difficult to bring up the subject of ADD/ADHD/Autistic without sounding like a hypochondriac or even a "me me me me me, look at me" individual yet I know myself and thinking of a dual diagnosis might be a few more pieces of the puzzle being me (I am already a medical guinea pig/human lab rat...adopted with no family history, medically, socially, etc) 🤷🏻‍♀️

[caroline goulding]

Thank you for this - my son has a learning difficulty, cerebral palsy, is hearing impaired and was diagnosed with autism at 29 (he’s 31 now). He is an extraordinary musician (Oliver Goulding) , everything you say resonates. If he doesn’t go out and do things every day, he gets bored, yet the anxiety before going out overwhelms him and comes out negatively behaviourally. We had years of psychologists who didn’t understand him and his outbursts. The trouble is that one disability gets focussed on and any others are ignored. Sorry for rambling, I just had to comment as your videos are so interesting.

[Camila Fialho]

hi everyone! as someone who has recently been diagnosed with both ASD and ADHD, i’d like to share some parts of my seven-year journey to getting diagnosed in hopes that some of you might relate and maybe consider it helpful :) so, i've been through several therapists and psychiatrists since the age of 13 because of social/generalized anxiety, depression, low self-esteem, and body image issues. i was 15 when a therapist first suspected i might be autistic, but my parents shrugged it off at the time and didn't pursue any testing because i didn't match their preconceived notions of what it meant to be autistic (and because i was developing an eating disorder at the time, which was their main concern). later, at 18, another therapist diagnosed me with ADHD but didn't take my struggles seriously at all and always deviated from the issue when i tried asking her for help. at 19, i moved to the city for college and started going to a new therapist. not only did she completely ignore my ADHD diagnosis, but she also refused to even consider the possibility of me being autistic (mind you, this woman didn't help me with my mental health at all, she actually made it worse). eventually, at 20 years old, i decided to try going to a neuropsychiatrist and he immediately suspected i might be autistic. he recommended me for an assessment with a neuropsychologist who specialized in ASD and she ended up concluding that i had ASD Level 1 (formerly known as Asperger's Syndrome). this neuropsychologist is now my new therapist and hands down the best one so far. however, it has been kind of a challenge for her to figure out the best way of helping me, since having both ASD and ADHD is quite the complex and unpredictable experience. this difficulty is worsened by the lack of research on how the two interact, adding to the very scarce research on how neurodiversity impacts girls and women. i try my best to describe my personal experience to her, but it isn’t always easy. it makes sense to me because it's all i've ever known but it's pretty hard to explain to someone else how my paradoxical mind works. based on all of this, i have reached the conclusion that not every mental health professional is qualified to work with neurodivergent folks (even though they often say they are) and i absolutely recommend those who haven’t gotten a diagnosis yet to seek out an actual specialist! i think that’s all. sending love and wishing the best for all of you!

[The Misfit Owl]

Undiagnosed here also. I'm so scared to go forward with anything especially with the cost and hearing people tell stories of "professionals" that made things worse isn't helpful. Hearing people sharing their experiences has helped a lot. Hope I can figure myself out soon.

[lurklingX]

@Camila Fialho i think it's tough to find good people in any profession. hair cuts, construction, pet sitters, etc. Just gotta buckle in and know it might take a lot of effort (bleh).

[LemmiLeaf2]

@Camila Fialho thank for you kind response. I am very lucky with the people around me, as they are very supportive. One thing I can say for sure to anyone reading this: It helps getting a diagnosis! It opens up paths and experts can help you take steps you wouldn’t dare take or didn’t think even existed!

[Camila Fialho]

@lurklingX absolutely!! i almost gave up on therapy bc of how awful some of them were... fortunately, my parents always convinced me to try again

[lengyelszunyog]

I (42F) have both (most probably) and I also have this feeling that those two are constantly "sabotaging" each other. It's really like you say - being somewhere between all the time: sometimes more autistic, sometimes more ADHD. I don't have a formal diagnosis, because it's very difficult in the country where I currently live (not to mention that with current inflation I can't really afford searching for a specialist). Instead I prefer to listen to people who actually have the condition and use some tips and trick how to "handle" specific life situation and I find them really useful.

[Ghost The Lizard]

Honestly I relate so much to those points 😭 I was diagnosed with autism as a child, probably because i really do display the stereotypical autism traits, but i never really displayed traits of ADHD outwardly, which is probably why i and professionals never considered that i could have it. But then people with adhd and those with both started to share their experiences and i started to think that maybe i do have adhd, but it just doesnt display the way youd expect it to because of autism and social anxiety, or maybe theyre just all symptoms of the already diagnosed autism. This video seems to support the first suspicion though..

[Ignace Alli]

I used this doc herbs for my son and now my son is completely free, his speaking and behavior is ok. His herbs is 100% working on ASD. I met Dr Oyalo on channel and I’m happy to share my experience about it

[Darkfireice]

Just got formally diagnosed last year; I got both, yay. Could have made the previous 30 years much easier. Also kind of make sense for both, as both are developmental disorders, and the areas that are typically underdevelopment (I won't use the correct term, as I know it's triggering) do overlap. (After I was diagnosed (plus 2 other, oh so fun, diagnoses) I've dived into the research of my diagnoses). Sorry, forgot the call to action; yes to all but the last one (but that's likely from the schizoid personality)