5 Underrated Space Operas You Need To Read

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Sci-Fi Odyssey

Sci-Fi Odyssey

2 ай бұрын

Today we’re diving into 5 lesser known space opera gems that you need to read.
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After her family is killed and her homeworld occupied, young Kathreen Martin is sent to the distant world of Furoris for re-education. She will live the rest of her life as a serf - to be bought and sold as a commodity of the Imperial Network.
When her only chance of escape is ruined, a chance mistaken identity offers her a new life as the orphaned daughter of a First-Citizen Senator and heiress to a vast fortune.
She vows to claw her way into power to sit among the worlds’ elite. Then, with her own hands, she will reap bloody vengeance on them all.
But to beat them, she must play their game. And she must play it better than them all.
BLACK MILK
Prometheus has the chance to bring his wife back from the dead, but doing so will mean the destruction of Earth.
Spanning time, planets and dimensions, Black Milk draws to a climactic point in a post-apocalyptic future, where humanity, stranded with no planet to call home, fights to survive against a post-human digital entity that pursues them through the depths of space.
Five lives separated by aeons are inextricably linked by Prometheus’s actions:
Ystil.3 is an AI unit sent back in time from the distant future to investigate Prometheus’s discovery...
The mysterious Lydia has devoted her life to finding a planet that the last remaining humans can call home…
Tom Jones (he’s a HUGE fan!) is an AI trapped inside a digital subspace, lost and desperate to find his way back to his beloved in real-time…
Dr Norma Stanwyck is a neuroscientist from 24th Century Earth whose personal choices ripple throughout time...
Prometheus must learn the necessity of death or the entire universe will be swallowed by his grief.
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@chantlerbc
@chantlerbc Ай бұрын
The Gap Cycle by Stephen R. Donaldson is definitely an underrated gem of a series.
@AyarARJ
@AyarARJ Ай бұрын
It is very good. And there's no actual good, hero, protag. They all are just despicable in various ways.
@mingusthurber5923
@mingusthurber5923 Ай бұрын
I have read that series more times than Foundation. My favorite.
@joshuakanapkey6570
@joshuakanapkey6570 9 күн бұрын
The Gap Cycle is a masterpiece! I read it as it was released and voraciously consumed it as quickly as possible each time. Having been familiar with Donaldson's style from the Thomas Covenant series, I knew his space opera would be DEEEEEP, and was not disappointed! 10/10, Recommend!
@proto-geek248
@proto-geek248 Ай бұрын
Frederick Pohl's Heechee Saga: Gateway Beyond the Blue Event Horizon Heechee Rendezvous Annals of the Heechee Also, anything by Alistair Reynolds 😁👍
@russells6234
@russells6234 2 ай бұрын
One of my Favorite Space Opera Series is The Deathstalker Series by Simon R. Green!
@Yggdrasil42
@Yggdrasil42 Ай бұрын
I do miss Banks' Culture series a lot. Have read them all multiple times and I wish Banks had had time to write more.
@lukebanks9007
@lukebanks9007 2 ай бұрын
House of Suns by Alistair Reynolds is brilliant. Fallen Dragon and a Fire apon the Deep were amazing too. I'll check out the other 3
@DavidMacDowellBlue
@DavidMacDowellBlue 2 ай бұрын
Honestly one of my absolute faves remains Teh Vorkosigan Saga. But for me the intimate is an earmark of the cosmic. Plus the REVELATION SPACE series plus EARTHCLAN.
@MykePagan
@MykePagan 2 ай бұрын
A Fire Upon the Deep also does a huge amount of exploration into parallel processing computing architectures (the Tines). Vernor Vinge (RIP) was a professor of Computer Science at UC Irvine. He even DEDICATED the book to the attendees of the previous year;s International Conference on Parallel Processing!
@raul0ca
@raul0ca Ай бұрын
As someone who went to UC Irvine I know Benford taught physics there but as far as I know Vinge was at SDSU teaching math and compsci
@patrickocallaghan3429
@patrickocallaghan3429 Ай бұрын
I'm a retired CS professor who used to teach this stuff. The Tines are actually distributed systems, rather than parallel computers, and are one of the most original alien species in all of SF. There's also a lightly-disguised equivalent of the old USENET online discussion forum which I found amusing (though quite dated no of course).
@MykePagan
@MykePagan Ай бұрын
@@patrickocallaghan3429 True! Vinge dedicated A Fire Upon the Deep to the organizers of Arctic ‘88, the iteration of the conference held in Scandanavia. I was at Finger Lakes ‘89, the iteration held at Cornell. I must correct myself that this was not the ICPP. I got mixed up because I also presented at the ICPP around the sane time. So… yes, dustributed systems, not parallel processing.
@AJ_12-09
@AJ_12-09 9 күн бұрын
I want to read a fire upon the deep? Is the writing style easy to understand?​@@MykePagan
@MykePagan
@MykePagan 9 күн бұрын
@@AJ_12-09 yes, it is not a difficult read. But very thought-provoking. Might want to review 1990s Usenet culture to get some of the references in the first few chapters
@jeffrogers210
@jeffrogers210 Ай бұрын
The Skylark of Space is my favorite space opera.
@michaelcottle6270
@michaelcottle6270 Ай бұрын
Hardly underrated unless there's been some crazy revisionism going on. That's pretty much the template for classic era space opera
@marsrocket
@marsrocket Ай бұрын
I loved it 45 years ago but find it hard to read now. It’s socially dated and lacks technology so the characters often do strange things.
@jeanjones7396
@jeanjones7396 27 күн бұрын
I actually prefer the Lensmen series.
@paulspillman9413
@paulspillman9413 2 ай бұрын
Stephen R. Donaldson, the Gap series. Am I the only person who has read these novels?
@discobolos4227
@discobolos4227 2 ай бұрын
Y E S ! Just kidding! :D
@Sollen-jb4vq
@Sollen-jb4vq Ай бұрын
They were indeed awesome!
@RichTeer
@RichTeer Ай бұрын
You’re not alone! I loved the Gap series, and, of course, the Chronicles of Thomas Covenant.
@joshuakanapkey6570
@joshuakanapkey6570 9 күн бұрын
Not alone! 🤘
@mickjayplays
@mickjayplays 2 ай бұрын
Instant thumbs up for mentioning A Fire Upon the Deep. The entire Zones of Thought series is some of the best sci-fi I've ever read. Easily my favorite space operas.
@mathguy1015
@mathguy1015 2 ай бұрын
David Brin’s Startide Rising is one of the best space operas out there and seems to have been forgotten. I was surprised it wasn’t on the list.
@Joe-lb8qn
@Joe-lb8qn Ай бұрын
That would likely be me having it removed by altering the space time continuum 😂. Couldnt take more than the first book (skimmed to finish) and DNFd the second
@nathanielmerchant3286
@nathanielmerchant3286 Ай бұрын
@@Joe-lb8qn Funny. I really liked the first and could not could not get into the second.
@marsrocket
@marsrocket Ай бұрын
Man, I loved those when I read them decades ago.
@rodneymckay8860
@rodneymckay8860 2 ай бұрын
I just started reading Light, I’m liking it so far. I’m not sure if this is considered sci-fi opera but On Basilisk Station is one of my favorites.
@rbarnes4076
@rbarnes4076 Ай бұрын
David Weber is such a great author! I love the Honor Harrington books. I'm also quite fond of the Legacy of the Aldenata (John Ringo). Great sense of humor in those books.
@martinbarr9402
@martinbarr9402 2 ай бұрын
I have read the Vinge books and loved them. You just added more to my ever growing list! Thanks Darrel and keep them coming.
@alundavies1016
@alundavies1016 Ай бұрын
I always love re-reading the David Brin Uplift books.
@thecryptile
@thecryptile 2 ай бұрын
I've already read all of these except for the Neal Asher book, but my favorite Space Opera so far has to be Dan Simmons' Hyperion.
@Ylyrra
@Ylyrra Ай бұрын
Gridlinked and the first few books in that series feel like they were published before they'd fully baked... they're great books, but Neal Asher had become a noticeably FAR better author by a few books into the series. Reading the first few after reading his later stuff and you can really see that he was still learning his craft and finding his voice. It's a bit of a petty quibble, because they're still excellent books, just that what comes after is even better and you don't usually get to see authors "learning on the job" like that.
@KK-fi6ms
@KK-fi6ms Ай бұрын
Hyperion can't be called underrated, It is very famous.
@berternieartist
@berternieartist 2 ай бұрын
Fallen Dragon is IMHO an absolute masterpiece. The ending at the very last is particularily revelatory and extremely cool. Oh and I have read it four times in the last 10 or so years.
@BonesFrielinghaus
@BonesFrielinghaus 2 ай бұрын
Totally agree...and the ending is just...perfect. what an amazing book. However, I'm NOT getting into his Salvation series..
@splashpit
@splashpit 2 ай бұрын
Wow , I always recommend this and until now never heard it feature
@alwega2923
@alwega2923 2 ай бұрын
​@@BonesFrielinghausWhy not? Not as good as Commonwealth (nothing is ;-) !), but has its merits. I'm starving for new Hamilton btw
@alwega2923
@alwega2923 2 ай бұрын
Good Idea, re-read FD. Thnx! Then Mandel trilogy after long time again.
@shardator
@shardator Ай бұрын
Peter F Hamilton vibes with me very well in general.
@rbarnes4076
@rbarnes4076 Ай бұрын
To me, these stand out: Weber - Honor Harrington Weber/White - Starfire Series (which includes the incredible 'In Death Ground'). Ringo - Legacy of the Aldenata Michael Z. Williamson - Freehold Series/Universe I've read a ton of early scifi also (I'm in my 60s). My father was a huge fan and I picked up the bug. A.E. Van Vogt, Heinlein, Asimov, E. E. Doc Smith, Clifford D. Simak, Poul Anderson, Fritz Lieber, Arthur C. Clarke and Frank Herbert (these are just the ones that come immediately to mind.. there are many many more I've read over the years).
@gwaeron8630
@gwaeron8630 Ай бұрын
The Honor Harrington series is pure awesomeness. #1 On Basilisk Station is the only book that has ever had me literally on the edge of my seat. Starfire was good but wasn't re-readable. I'll give Legacy of the Aldenata and Freehold a look!
@chasm
@chasm Ай бұрын
Fire upon deep is a must read! Highly recommended!
@libertyauto
@libertyauto 2 ай бұрын
After reading all of The Culture series, I used Asher's, Ian Cormac series as my methadone treatment for withdrawal. Earth Central, the AI in Gridlinked is a little similar to the culture's AI ship minds.
@RobTheCanadianGeek1
@RobTheCanadianGeek1 2 ай бұрын
Its unfortunate that so many great novels don't get the attention they deserve. Well my TBR grows evermore, thanks for the great list! All the best.
@jaimeosbourn3616
@jaimeosbourn3616 2 ай бұрын
Mine will be unfinished when I die.
@sblisa6
@sblisa6 2 ай бұрын
Love space operas! Thank you for your recommendations, and the artwork.
@Castabulan
@Castabulan 2 ай бұрын
The Requiem for Homo Sapiens by David Zindell. The Golden Oecumene by John C. Wright.
@AnonymousAnonposter
@AnonymousAnonposter 2 ай бұрын
Moments ago I was recommending Nova by Samuel R. Delany to someone else. And I recommend it here too. There is so much in that book, totally worth a reread too.
@JazzGuitarScrapbook
@JazzGuitarScrapbook 2 ай бұрын
Without Delaney there’d be no Culture books imo
@mondostrat
@mondostrat 2 ай бұрын
I second this one
@lisagulick4144
@lisagulick4144 2 ай бұрын
@@JazzGuitarScrapbook I totally agree. Delany didn't get near enough respect!
@JazzGuitarScrapbook
@JazzGuitarScrapbook 2 ай бұрын
@@lisagulick4144 I think he was very highly rated in the 60s and 70s, won plenty of awards etc. it’s more that a lot of those older writers are a bit overlooked today unless it’s the Big Names like Asimov, Herbert etc
@RedSinter
@RedSinter Ай бұрын
You, can add Piers Anthony's Bio of a Space Tyrant, David Webber's Honor Harrington Series. The Undying Mercenary Series by BV Larson, or The Omega Force by Joshua Dalzell, and Jim Butcher's The Furies of Calderon. I could go on but I'd have to refer to my authors list. At present Rick Partlow's Tahini Books are such.
@garylane6227
@garylane6227 Ай бұрын
Bio of a Space Tyrant is literally the worst series I have ever read.
@billlumbergh9251
@billlumbergh9251 24 күн бұрын
Dang I thought I was the only one that read omega force 😳. I loved that series till about book 10 then it lost the fun. Try the lost starship series , I thought those were fun.
@sensorlock
@sensorlock Ай бұрын
Adrian Tchaikovsky's series starting with Children of Time is my favorite from recent works, and David Brin's Uplift novels from the older side. I'm also going to read anything by Alistair Reynolds or Lois McMaster Bujold.
@major_west
@major_west 2 ай бұрын
Nice to see you have nearly 35K subscribers now! Well deserved.
@majorbrew
@majorbrew 2 ай бұрын
I think Currently Underrated might be a better title for this list, I remember all of these titles and have read 4 out of 5 them. We have to remember these books were published 20+ years ago now and the filter of time is setting in for books of this age, after 15-20 years even the award winners fall off. Thinking back, it may be my personal golden age of reading 1990 - 2010ish, with so many mid-list writers and a strong short story market. * personal Favorite: Pandora's Star by Peter F Hamilton, well maybe the whole Common Wealth series
@stevenscott2136
@stevenscott2136 2 ай бұрын
Ironically, "Fallen Dragon" is the only space-opera I know of which starts out with a character learning that the whole concept of space-opera is utterly ridiculous. Don't be put off by that -- Hamilton makes it work.
@Zivilin
@Zivilin 2 ай бұрын
The Dark Beyond the Stars is another criminally underrated space opera. It's a standalone novel by Frank M. Robinson from 1991.
@Yggdrasil42
@Yggdrasil42 Ай бұрын
Vinge is great! Both Fire Upon the Deep and A Deepness in the Sky.
@loanthanhbui
@loanthanhbui Ай бұрын
Books mentioned: 1:07 Fallen Dragon, Peter F. Hamilton 2:42 Light, M. John Harrison 4:19 Gridlinked, Neal Asher 5:25 The Icarus Hunt, Timothy Zahn 7:04 A Fire Upon the Deep, Vernor Vinge
@LongDefiant
@LongDefiant Ай бұрын
Ty
@Ambient_Scenes
@Ambient_Scenes 2 ай бұрын
A Fire Upon the Deep is one of the most beautiful sci fi novels I've ever read.
@greywaren621
@greywaren621 2 ай бұрын
I'm sold anytime someone calls a science fiction book beautiful. ❤
@discobolos4227
@discobolos4227 2 ай бұрын
@@greywaren621 LOL!
@jefff3886
@jefff3886 Ай бұрын
I had read "A Deepness in The Sky" first, and I was gratified to see the return of a memorable character.
@Ambient_Scenes
@Ambient_Scenes Ай бұрын
@@jefff3886 How is "A Deepness in The Sky" compared to A Fire Upon the Deep?
@jefff3886
@jefff3886 Ай бұрын
@@Ambient_Scenes Thank you for your question. This is strictly subjective, but "Deepness" is every bit as complex and layered as "Fire." However, I found "Deepness" to be a darker novel, with some disturbing imagery near the end. Don't misunderstand, I think it's an excellent novel, but it stayed with me for days after I finished it. But then again, some art is meant to make one uncomfortable, and to get one to think about new things, or to look at things in a different way.
@felixfifeauthor
@felixfifeauthor 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the great recommendations. I will definitely look for Zahn's Icarus Hunt 🙏💯
@PaweKabanski
@PaweKabanski Ай бұрын
Many thanks for the summary. I've already added them to my wish list.
@angushume2054
@angushume2054 2 ай бұрын
Nice. I have read the first two and last out the 5 and highly recommend. Will check out the others. And added black milk to my reading list… sounds great.
@njshore2239
@njshore2239 2 ай бұрын
The 6-book series of the Galactic Center by Gregory Benford, read them all multiple times! This series is outstanding!
@ReneBarendse-kn7sy
@ReneBarendse-kn7sy 2 ай бұрын
Me too! And best hard science fiction series too. Benford is a physics professor after all. And yet nobody ever mentions it. The only reason I can think of is that it is from the eighties and for most people that is too long ago
@discobolos4227
@discobolos4227 2 ай бұрын
Galactic Center? The name reminded me of Core Space. A series of miniatures board games. :) Just saying... There's lots of varied sci-fi out there.
@ssmytheYT
@ssmytheYT 2 ай бұрын
Go Tines! 😀 Love Vinge. Great recommendations!
@joshuakanapkey6570
@joshuakanapkey6570 9 күн бұрын
I would add C.J. Cherryh's "Faded Sun" trilogy! Amazing series!
@CMDR_Verm
@CMDR_Verm 2 ай бұрын
After reading The Culture series by Banks and the Revelation Space series by Reynolds I've been hard pressed to find anything matching the level of these writers. I fear my life is going to become an endless saga of re-reading. I have tried the Polity books and Light plus Vinge but they seem like hard work for minimal reward. Thank you for some more suggestions, I'll definitely give them a go.
@JazzGuitarScrapbook
@JazzGuitarScrapbook 2 ай бұрын
My list would have to include Tiger Tiger - Alfred Bester (still heavily ripped off by everyone haha including Gibson, the Expanse guys and Banks) Nova - Sam Delaney The Instrumentality of Man books - Cordwainer Smith (completely mad and wonderful) And here’s an obscure one - I remember loving The Star Child trilogy by Fred Pohl and Jack Williamson. Good luck tracking that down haha. It’s probably rubbish. But I liked it when I was 15 My parents book collection was a trip
@dalepettiner5036
@dalepettiner5036 Ай бұрын
Let us not forget Saberhagen's Berserker series OR E.E."Doc" Smith's Lensman.
@BobMyers-rt2ku
@BobMyers-rt2ku 2 ай бұрын
I read "The Icarus Hunt" as a random read several years ago, and I loved it!
@haywire289
@haywire289 2 ай бұрын
Even tho Space Opera is my favorite Genre, I never heard of those before and they all sound like exactly up my ally! Thanks for the recommendations! I will check them all out!
@wwbit
@wwbit 2 ай бұрын
What are your favorites/recommendations in the genre?
@haywire289
@haywire289 2 ай бұрын
@@wwbit My Favorites are well known I guess. Foundation, Hyperion, The Bobiverse.
@nathanwhitmore3980
@nathanwhitmore3980 Ай бұрын
I liked Enders Game and always wished there were more Starship Troopers books. The first Dune book is obviously the best still.
@KK-fi6ms
@KK-fi6ms Ай бұрын
Wow great list! I would add Dread Empire's Fall series as well.
@sentinelshoshin4632
@sentinelshoshin4632 2 ай бұрын
Very compelling recommendations
@epimetheaus1214
@epimetheaus1214 2 ай бұрын
Saga Of Seven Suns is one of my favourites, highly recommend it.
@discobolos4227
@discobolos4227 2 ай бұрын
From Kevin J. Anderson?
@epimetheaus1214
@epimetheaus1214 2 ай бұрын
@@discobolos4227 That's the one. The reviews for it don't do it justice honestly.
@discobolos4227
@discobolos4227 2 ай бұрын
@@epimetheaus1214 If I remember it correctly, the initial reviews had actually been pretty positive and excited across the board, BUT around the fifth book, I think, some critics began to assert that Anderson had begun to either repeat himself or unnecessarily prolong things, that the series had begun to run out of steam, and that the depth of the storyline(s) and of the mythos of the fictional universe did not justify that many sequels. Just saying...
@epimetheaus1214
@epimetheaus1214 2 ай бұрын
@@discobolos4227 That wasn't my experience at least. My biggest criticism was for the follow up books. I didn't enjoy the sequel trilogy the saga of shadows. It felt unnecessary.
@discobolos4227
@discobolos4227 2 ай бұрын
@@epimetheaus1214 Alright. I otherwise heard about the sequel Saga.
@barryvercueil2346
@barryvercueil2346 2 ай бұрын
YES!!!!!!! Finally a Neal Asher book!!!!! Cheers
@michaelstriker8698
@michaelstriker8698 Ай бұрын
#1 is Startide Rising by David Brin. #2 is a tie between E.Moon's Trading in Danger series, Raltsbloodthorne's First Contact series, the first third/half of Hambone's Deathworlders series and its surviving offshoots (pre-ring destruct), and H.Harrison's Retief (less space interaction, more swashbuckling).
@ilanahalupovich
@ilanahalupovich 2 ай бұрын
Gordon Dickson Dorsai books in Childe series.
@AyarARJ
@AyarARJ Ай бұрын
For some reason this brings to mind W. Michael Gear's Warriors of Spider trilogy. His Forbidden Borders trilogy is good too--but annoying about the border. Too much cave bear stuff with the wife for a follow-up trilogy I guess. Anyway you might like those too; circa 1990.
@palantir135
@palantir135 2 ай бұрын
Foundation series and Dune series are my favorites Maybe a bit strange but Nul-A and sequel by A.E. van Vogt is space opera
@Rogue_VI
@Rogue_VI 2 ай бұрын
Did you say "underratedocity"? 😃 I've read Fallen Dragon. I don't remember much about it, but I did like it. Same for Icarus Hunt. A Fire Upon the Deep is one of my top books. I've read it numerous times. Another favorite is the seemingly unknown In Conquest Born by C.S. Friedman.
@ItsXenixo
@ItsXenixo 2 ай бұрын
Could you someday do a tier list of space operas?
@discobolos4227
@discobolos4227 2 ай бұрын
!!!!! THIS COMMENT !!!!!
@josephpalmer3532
@josephpalmer3532 2 ай бұрын
Sun Eater Series by Christopher Ruocchio
@Joe-lb8qn
@Joe-lb8qn Ай бұрын
Yes for all the neal asher books set in the Polity universe. Also a vote for Altered Carbon and its associated follow ons. Not sure if its Space Opera though.
@richardfox4803
@richardfox4803 2 ай бұрын
Nice to see Neal Asher's Polity series getting some attention. I'm old fashioned enough to see space opera as being a series of books at least beyond a trilogy. Asher's work has evolved way past this level. Maybe not the most innovative, nor the most polished writing. However when an Asher book drops I'm not available for for several hours till it's been devoured. A similar series is Marko Kloos' Frontlines book sit well within my conception of Space Opera, and is highly recommended.
@AJ_12-09
@AJ_12-09 9 күн бұрын
Can I expect good character work in Neal Asher's books?
@richardfox4803
@richardfox4803 2 күн бұрын
@@AJ_12-09 Not their strongest point. More focus on action and event.
@AJ_12-09
@AJ_12-09 2 күн бұрын
@@richardfox4803 how good of characters can I expect on scale of 10?
@richardfox4803
@richardfox4803 2 күн бұрын
@@AJ_12-09 6
@delhatton
@delhatton Ай бұрын
Have you read my favorite, Donaldson's Gap Cycle? Scariest aliens ever.
@stevarino39
@stevarino39 2 ай бұрын
Minor correction -Vinge is pronounced Vin-Gee. Also he sadly passed away recently. But his stories are fantastic. It's rare that a deeply philosophical scifi book is so VISUAL. I can still picture scenes such as the fall of _____, even though it's been over a decade.. But absolutely checking out Fallen Dragon. The Commonwealth saga is an absolute favorite and I really don't understand the hate that series gets.
@jefff3886
@jefff3886 Ай бұрын
It's not just one novel, but C.J. Cherryh's Alliance-Union universe is all one big space opera, and I would say that her Faded Sun trilogy also qualifies.
@kevinwillis6707
@kevinwillis6707 Ай бұрын
better known for her fantasy, but an underated sci fi author, downbelow station is one of my favourite books. i can also recommend ancillary justice by ann leckie, subtle and intelligent writing.
@robertgrant721
@robertgrant721 Ай бұрын
Faded Sun is an incredible trilogy. Reread many times.
@constancepullen810
@constancepullen810 Ай бұрын
I have read many in this universe. cherryh was one of my late husband's favorite authors. We would scour library and garage sales to fill our library. Once we had both read a book we would have long discussions on what happened in the story. I did find them a little hard to read though.
@jefff3886
@jefff3886 Ай бұрын
@@constancepullen810 I know what you mean. Downbelow Station is not an "exciting" novel insofar as space action and adventure is concerned, but it is fascinating nevertheless, and easy to see why it won a Hugo. I tell people it's more of a political thriller than anything science fiction-y, it just happens to be set mainly on a space station. And Cyteen was one of the most difficult novels I have ever read - and one of the most rewarding. C.J. Cherryh is one of my favorite authors; she builds characters like nobody else.
@jefff3886
@jefff3886 Ай бұрын
@@robertgrant721 That second novel blew my little mind. Damn she's good.
@djC653
@djC653 2 ай бұрын
A fun SO I enjoyed reading is the Spinward Fringe by Randolph Lalonde written in a clifhanger tv type style so good.
@joshuajackson472
@joshuajackson472 Ай бұрын
I strongly recommend The Gap Cycle by Stephen R. Donaldson. It's an incredible 5 book series that begins with "The Real Story." I'm not entirely certain that it qualifies as a space opera, but since it's based on/inspired by composer Richard Wagner's Des Ring Der Nibelungen music dramas, aka The Ring Cycle, which includes the famous piece The Ride of the Valkyries, I figure it can't be far off.
@CxOrillion
@CxOrillion 14 күн бұрын
I've been trying to find this Vernor Vinge series forever! I read about half of it 20 years ago and wanted to find it nowadays but I didn't really know what to search for
@williammodlin2621
@williammodlin2621 Ай бұрын
I’ve read a lot of Peter Hamilton, but NOT “Fallen Dragon”. It is sitting on my bookshelf, so I think I’ll put it next in my queue. Except for Vernor Vinge (I’ve read “A Fire Upon the Deep”, I hadn’t known of the others you highlighted. Thanks for this.
@daxbashir6232
@daxbashir6232 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for this.
@paulmapp8306
@paulmapp8306 Ай бұрын
Im going to have to read Fallen Dragon - I LOVE Peter F Hamilton. Particularly the Commonwealth books (all 7 of them not just the Saga), but enjoyed the Nights Dawn Trilogy as well - its a lot darker lol. I do need to find more though... Ive been stuck reading either Hamilton or Ian Banks for over a decade lol.
@jaimeosbourn3616
@jaimeosbourn3616 2 ай бұрын
I've read the Vinge book and it's sequel. Light looks interesting.
@DougDibrimi
@DougDibrimi Ай бұрын
David Weber had some good epics early on, including the Honor Harrington series up to about 8 or 9. I just reread Ashes of Empire and the first two books are solid, interesting books. (Don't much care for book 3, but YMMV).
@AyarARJ
@AyarARJ Ай бұрын
The Honorverse is a pretty great setting, especially as Manticore's interaction, through the characters, with that universe expands and escalates. But really "only" the books with Honor in them do much for me. And with so many books, you can see why Weber went for "space vampires from earth vs alien invaders" for more recent new series.
@constancepullen810
@constancepullen810 Ай бұрын
Flinx series and assorted side trilogies in the same universe. Honor Harrington series with sidebar😮 series including short story collections.
@blackrabbit212
@blackrabbit212 Ай бұрын
Good call, luved all the Flinx stories.
@Emanon...
@Emanon... 2 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@elonmusksellssnakeoil1744
@elonmusksellssnakeoil1744 2 ай бұрын
So underrated that it didn't even make the video - *Legend of the Galactic Heroes*
@adrianusnicholas8600
@adrianusnicholas8600 2 ай бұрын
Have you heard of the CoDominium series and the Mote in God’s Eye book?
@lisagulick4144
@lisagulick4144 2 ай бұрын
I have indeed. My intro to the CoDominium was a Pournelle short story called "He Fell into a Dark Hole," about a CoDom mission to find a lost ship that has encountered a black hole...a phenomenon about which they know nothing, as that branch of physics is forbidden by the CoDominium!
@adrianusnicholas8600
@adrianusnicholas8600 2 ай бұрын
@@lisagulick4144 oh, i don’t remember much about that story, except that it featured Sergei Lermontov. My introduction was Peace with Honor but my favorite story is The Mercenary, featuring John Christian Falkenberg
@jefff3886
@jefff3886 Ай бұрын
It's interesting to read Niven's discussion of the creative/collaborative process behind "The Mote in God's Eye" in his book "N-Space."
@rapid13
@rapid13 Ай бұрын
You mention “Mote” but not “The Gripping Hand.”
@adrianusnicholas8600
@adrianusnicholas8600 Ай бұрын
@@rapid13 i don’t have that much chances to get my hands on many jerry pournelle works as where i got them don’t usually have that many. (I only know Mote, CoDominium and Heorot) but i recently heard about the gripping hand! Thanks!
@justinmacneil623
@justinmacneil623 Ай бұрын
I have to confess that I would never have considered anything by Timothy Zahn due to my deep and abiding dislike for his Star Wars books! Love Vernor Vinge's works.
@darknewt9959
@darknewt9959 Ай бұрын
Most criminally under-mentioned space opera has to be Pierce Brown's Red Rising series of books.
@jamesmacleod9382
@jamesmacleod9382 Ай бұрын
The Well World series by Jack Chalker, or his Soul Rider series or his Four Lords of the Diamond series. All have good ideas and are fun adventures.
@billlumbergh9251
@billlumbergh9251 24 күн бұрын
I really enjoyed the red rising series on audiobook. I blew through it in less than a week.
@stephenzeoli8117
@stephenzeoli8117 Ай бұрын
I was weaned on the Lensman series by E.E. Doc Smith. Not literature by any means, and with some out-dated ideas on genetics, these stories fired my young imagination. But I also agree with you that Fire Upon the Deep is a classic, brilliantly written by Vinge.
@AyarARJ
@AyarARJ Ай бұрын
Throwing Starship's Mage series by Glynn Stewart out there for space opera. For some reason I can't stop reading Glynn's stuff, and there's a lot of it. Not sure Starship's Mage but for all his various settings.
@locusmortis
@locusmortis Ай бұрын
I'd rank David Zindell's neverness/Requiem for Homo Sapiens series right up there, imaginative ideas and great characterisation.
@shawntipton5078
@shawntipton5078 2 ай бұрын
I will make a point to read all of these, I have read Gridlocked, showing a A.I based future and Fallen Dragon which is really great in that it shows the realistic aftermath and consequence of space travel and galactic colonisation, - that is the overwhelming cost in money, resources and such vs any benefit. Eventual the good times come to an end and space travel is deemed to expensive.
@sbjchef
@sbjchef Ай бұрын
I'm a massive E.E. doc Smith fan especially the lensman series, where else can you find a planet travelling faster than light used as a missile against a solar system's star?
@Philip-0
@Philip-0 Ай бұрын
Edmond Hamilton's *The Star Kings* (1947) fits well in the space opera genre if you don't mind some romance thrown in.
@michaelcottle6270
@michaelcottle6270 Ай бұрын
Based on your descriptions, I wouldn't classify all of these as space opera. Try Julian May's Rampart Worlds trilogy published between 1999 and 2001. That flew under the radar but I enjoyed it immensely.
@rflester53
@rflester53 Ай бұрын
I'll take E. E. "Doc" Smith's Lensman and Skylark series any day.
@taylorminton1056
@taylorminton1056 Ай бұрын
If I had to recommend a space opera series that I don't think gets enough attention, The Unincorporated War (First book is The Unincorporated Man)
@Rob-im5qq
@Rob-im5qq Ай бұрын
Rob Perrier's Habitable Worlds Series: Above the Storms and Before the Storms
@AtlasTheStoicSage
@AtlasTheStoicSage Ай бұрын
Namaste😊, Star Pulse: Cairo Star, The Man Who Met God is an underrated good read.
@heggedaal
@heggedaal 2 ай бұрын
A great plot, characters with believable personal grievances and a bold imagination to blend the largest and smallest structures in the universe makes "Light" by M. J. Harrison by far the most valuable novel in literary terms.
@dixieflatline1189
@dixieflatline1189 2 ай бұрын
Lensman series
@TheFallenFaob
@TheFallenFaob 2 ай бұрын
Did you ever watch the anime for it
@discobolos4227
@discobolos4227 2 ай бұрын
@@TheFallenFaob The anime was quite OK, but had very little in common with the original book series.
@gwaptiva
@gwaptiva Ай бұрын
I find the genre label a bit vague, so not sure if experts would agree these fit the category: The Culture novels by Banks, and _A Memory Called Empire_ by Arkady Martine
@DavidHixson
@DavidHixson Ай бұрын
Some good suggestions. For something a bit lighter and less hard sci fi, give Starship's Mage by Glynn Stewart a try.
@user-ut5vy5pn8m
@user-ut5vy5pn8m Ай бұрын
I'm tearing my way through Glynn Stewart's books at the moment - they're very reminiscent of the sci-fi I inherited from my parents, and I mean that as a sincere compliment. Also, I very much appreciate the depictions of diversity as sufficiently ubiquitous to pass as functionally unremarked elements of the various cultures, but that might just be my personal preferences.
@WarDog793
@WarDog793 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for these recommendations. I've read _The Icarus Hunt_ and _A Fire upon the Deep, and own _Fallen Dragon_, but not yet read it. I will have to examine Asher's Polity series. Sorry, but with _Light,_ you lost me with one of the main characgters being a "serial killer."
@korbendallas5318
@korbendallas5318 Ай бұрын
Do read _Fire upon the Deep,_ but read _Deepness in the Sky_ first, the story is much better (and Pham Nuwen much more tragic) if you don't know _Fire_ when you read _Deepness._ Both are excellent, among the best SF has to offer.
@Darthgibson89
@Darthgibson89 2 ай бұрын
Shout out to Tales of the Phoenix Titan (the most underrated modern space opera IMO)
@62Roybe
@62Roybe 2 ай бұрын
Bio of a Space Tyrant.
@mingusthurber5923
@mingusthurber5923 Ай бұрын
Another vote for The Gap Cycle by Donaldson
@Virtualsalibi
@Virtualsalibi Ай бұрын
Read 3 out of 5 so perhaps I can add yet another John Clute’s Appleseed
@danshaw9479
@danshaw9479 Ай бұрын
Would The Expanse series be considered Space Opera?
@madmike5421
@madmike5421 Ай бұрын
yes
@d3mist0clesgee12
@d3mist0clesgee12 5 күн бұрын
interesting, which one to start with? hhmm
@KelebrimbearX
@KelebrimbearX Ай бұрын
EE Doc Smith - the Lensman series
@Marcus-id5ur
@Marcus-id5ur 2 ай бұрын
Gridlinked was not very good. I give Asher a bit of a pass as i believe it was his first book, but i think most Asher fans recommend starting somewhere else with him. Gap Cycle by Donaldson would be my recommendation for this list. Grimdark in space.
@Tiggermk4
@Tiggermk4 2 ай бұрын
Gridlinked is a good series , but Ashers Skinner trilogy is my favourite of his works. Its set in the same universe, but adds a black slapstick humour and a dash of horror . Sadly he’s since moved away from the humorous element in his novels, but the Orbus (the third in the skinner series) is Asher at his peak,imo.
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