5 Ways Films Get Exoskeletons Wrong

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[@GenerationFilms]

You asked and you shall receive we break down Master Chiefs armor kzbin.info/www/bejne/i2elpqGLj9aif5o

[@ahzekahriman5840]

If you ever do a break down of everything that goes into Space Marine Power Armor, make sure you go over everything that makes a Space Marine, a Space Marine as well. Without the implants and genetic engineering that goes into making an Astartes the armor is nigh unusable. Warhammer 40,000 has books dedicated to the subject. It'd be very interesting for you to delve into, considering that there are several juicy diagrams and 'blueprints' regarding the inner workings of said armor. Very in depth.

[@deviljocky598UT]

You do know mjolner armor in halo isnt an exo suit right😂😂😂

[@fierygaming4307]

Fun fact: Technically, the Mjolnir armor is film armor, you can find Halo: Forward Unto Dawn on Netflix or On Demand, I believe

[@DMS_Knighted_Drifter]

Kenneth Gary Jr. Yea this guy normally does his homework but he doesn't seem to know the difference between a powered exoskeletal frame and actual powered armour

[@yiyegorris]

Techpriests and Adeptus of the Homnissiah aproves this video. Titans rules.

[@MysteriousMose]

Not to mention the fact that they bolted it into his body through his T-Shirt. Damon would never shower again.

[@GenerationFilms]

Lol wat a hatchet job

[@kognak6640]

Well, if I remember right Damon's character was dying from radiation poisoning in few days and was gearing up for suicide mission. Showers or infections weren't high on worry list.

[@TheOriginalBlue62]

@@kognak6640 Dead man walking and heading for a cure-all device anyways. Also, I don't recall better shots through the movie, but in the example clips the suit *does* appear to be self supporting- which puts at least a small wrench in the 'super-power induced osteoporosis' argument.

[@SergeyPRKL]

indeed, he was doomed man already.

[@BooDamnHoo]

The best exosuit is not an exosuit, it's to go full Deus Ex Human Revolution and make yourself the suit. Except your junk. No exoarmor or gear is worth replacing your twig and berries with electronics.

[@casbot71]

You forgot one Oscar winning film that featured a lower body exoskeleton … 🐧+👋🏼 =🐓 Wallace and Gromit - The Wrong Trousers

[@Azerty72200]

casbott It was a more powerful one than any else.

[@violetvulpine5356]

God I LOVE the Wrong Trousers.

[@IR240474]

Best movie ever!

[@scottmclaughlin2329]

That fucking penguin was terrifying.

[@IR240474]

@@scottmclaughlin2329 I know, that look would strike fear into Hitler, Stalin & Mao....

[@daveb.4268]

Sadly, the "loader" from Aliens will be the only practical Exo we'll see in our lifetime.

[@DisgruntledDisabledCombat_Vet]

Highly doubt it. Unless combat changes I’d never wear that damn thing because with my OIF/OEF combat experience. That just to carry a saw or 240 means it’s a raid, your pulling security for the extraction route and the entire mission is executed perfectly without any issues. Now, putting the new tribarrel .50 cal or a Gatling gun and increasing the firepower for the group would make sense. However, I already can see problems with that still. Dropping in the prone that thing would be in the way. No matter what that mount is a nuisance and won’t be used. Just like all the tech they tried before with the one eye optical connected to a camera system on your weapon so you can look and fire around corners only exposing your weapon. They tossed it out because it was too expensive and we have drones now that any commander on ground can view footage of in real-time and relay info or those watching/providing support. Believe it or not most of the time old tech works best. I dislike when the military tries and fixes what’s not broken and those never been in multiple combat zones nor combat start designing things to help those on the ground move quicker and carry more with less strain but depend heavily on electronics ect. The only thing I approved of was the motorcycle helmet. However that helmet be used for VIPS ect. Only bullet proof helmet design that protects the head from most rifles and pistols. They designed it to protect the head, deliver information and have different types of views so you get rid of wearing NVGs ect. However it’s still being worked on. I really hope they just use it for important people being extracted for full body protection and not in combat. Well, future wise I can only see UAVs being used more on the battlefield but who knows. We’re already forming a space defense force now.

[@DocWolph]

@@DisgruntledDisabledCombat_Vet I think you over reacted to his comment. I don't think he was talking about combat, given the Loadlifter from"Aliens" was used for work. It is a more flexible forklift with more reach.

[@DisgruntledDisabledCombat_Vet]

DocWolph I know exactly what he was speaking of but I was replying to someone else’s comment. The “loader” will be for the fobbits. However, it would be used more on the bigger bases vs the small COPs. I still say UAVs will be cheaper and more realistic. Exosuits until we find a resource that doesn’t contaminant the operator and rarely need to be charged I highly doubt the loader will be even used because it’s slow vs a Diesel engine powered vehicle.

[@DisgruntledDisabledCombat_Vet]

DocWolph any tarmac or fob would need a really fast moving loader and not damage the ground.

[@gabriellowe9929]

Nobodyknows808 What outfit were you with?

[@exploatores]

the problem is that those who write action movie and science fiction script dont like math and physics.

[@Echowhiskeyone]

Or know math and physics, and just ignore it all for making the almighty dollar.

[@DrewLSsix]

Echo Whiskey Or it’s just a fact that writing a story isn’t about relaying dry facts.

[@exploatores]

DrewL_Ssix: If you write a good story, you don´t have to have physics breaking exoskeletons or weapons that would hurt the shooter more then the target.

[@jacksonw453]

Futurama would like a word

[@darknightx33x81]

Even just using basic physics and math, you get stuff like halo and mass effect

[@tba113]

I would watch the hell out of a Generation Games channel. You guys bring a lot to the table in these breakdowns. That said, the amount of research that goes into the videos is clearly pretty extensive, so I understand the problem of being pulled in too many directions at once. Running three different channels would be a huge workload. So, thanks for all you do, and here's hoping those harvesters bring in a bit more Tiberium!

[@GenerationFilms]

Eventually we’ll get editors to help us that we can focus more on content

[@nutta646]

@@GenerationFilms why not do a generation games series on generation tech? Would be awesome man 😍 Btw, where is british ben?

[@hyperionic1044]

master chief was in a movie! HALO 4 : FORWARD UNTO DAWN!

[@commanderknight9314]

Once a frachise grows large enough it will eventually have an example in all distribution formats.

[@killian9314]

the movies is mostly the classic cannon fodder slasher characters tho

[@RadeUeMasq]

Doesn't matter, since he actually wears power armor, not an exoskeleton.

[@Turbofurby]

@@RadeUeMasq MJOLNIR Armor is classified as an Exoskeleton. "The MJOLNIR Powered Assault Armor System[1] (pronunciation:ˈmjɔːlnɪər, myol-neer) is a technologically advanced combat exoskeleton system designed to vastly improve the strength, speed, agility, reflexes and durability of a Spartan supersoldier." - Halopedia, MJOLNIR Powered Assault Armor

[@ioannis2226]

True and the second halo movie:Nightfall

[@BrokenLifeCycle]

"First week of boot camp, they taught us a lesson. A good soldier knows there's only one thing he can rely on when the chips are down: Not his cutting edge intel, not his state of the art equipment, and not his top of the line weapon. Just himself: It took me a long time to remember that. For now, the war is over. I made mistakes along the way. But after all, I'm only human. My name is Laurence Barnes.They call me Prophet. Remember me." -Prophet during the Crysis 3 Epilogue

[@nuclearjanitors]

The exosuit in Elysium was cool until they bolted it in. But i like the concept.

[@GenerationFilms]

yea a lot of the stuff about the film was quite cool until they got to the space station... a god mode healer pod meh

[@nuclearjanitors]

@@GenerationFilms I agree. I enjoyed some of the tech aspects, the exo suit concept and the weird AK-47 frag round adapter was really cool even though it didn't make any sense at least the way I remember it. But they came up short in the final execution of the film I feel like. Mainly that exosuit why would they bolt that in?!

[@casbot71]

@@nuclearjanitors The exoskeleton was bolted on because he was suffering terminal radiation sickness and needed it to just hold him upright, it wasn't just boosting his muscles, it was being his muscles. The only reason he was jumping around in the final scenes was because he had just OD'ed on meds and was on a amphetamine type high. And the reason they went for such drastic invasive surgery is because he was dead in a week so he had nothing left to lose and if he got into one of the magic pods it could be removed. I think it came from a droid (which is why it had hex anchor bolts like Max was using in the factory where the droids were made) and had been repurposed as a exoskeleton, they were using a lot of salvaged, jury rigged and modified gear - they didn't have access to state of the art military equipment like the strap on exoskeleton. He was a "Favela ninja" not a mercenary soldier with a energy shield and integrated control systems. Like today using a semi automatic to fill auto conversation with a overrated rate of fire and extended magazines with hot load ammo. It's powerful, but it might blow up in your hands or jam at any moment. It's deadly compared to what's available to a civilian, but not as refined as a factory built military gun. But where life is cheap you don't care.

[@casbot71]

@@GenerationFilms You should have included a piece on the exoskeleton the hero Kruger was wearing, i 'had a lot of nifty gadgets and you could wear it over armour. Maybe if there's another follow up video … Just a thought, in this cautionary tale of what happens when societies leaders are unwilling to stomach the hard decisions: The villains exoskeleton has one other serious issue, it was bolted on over and through clothes. So how does he remove his pants to use the toilet? And considering he's got terminal radiation sickness, he's going to want to use the toilet often and quickly without warning. Oh I hope Matt Damon wasn't using method acting … … ☢🚽🌊🏄‍♂️🏃‍♂️💩 🤢🤮☣

[@nuclearjanitors]

@@casbot71 yeah i don't buy that, if thats the original lore explanation its shitty and anyone who's broken a bone will tell you why.

[@riotbreaker3506]

What about the Exosuit from District 9? That thing was incredible.

[@iamboringvideos6832]

Yea it is ...but it’s not really a exosuit...more like a small mech like thing ...but pretty cool ((only if wikus knew how it use it effectively))

[@elpatrico2562]

@@iamboringvideos6832 Yeah, gotta aggree, it's not an exoskeleton, since it's not just strapped to your body, but having completely individual limbs controlled from a cockpit.

[@ricq]

Riot Breaker plus the one in Elysium!

[@ClarkKulper]

To be fair, the only reason why the movie Elysium was enjoyable was because of Krueger. He was a total badass and I want to see more of that character.

[@GenerationFilms]

krueger was great, best recovery from face injury i've ever seen

[@787brx8]

As the ghostwriter of many screenplays...I was hoping they were not going to use special effects or anesthetics, when they attached the exo-suit to Matt Damon. With the way they did it, at least they could say that no animals were harmed while filming this way!

[@davegrenier1160]

One of the things they really blew in Elysium was the orbital habitat. In order for a "ringworld" type habitat to work, in which centripetal force keeps the atmosphere bound within the walls of the habitat, the walls have to be tens of miles high! There are two ways to generate one atmosphere of pressure in a ringworld habitat - spin the habitat so the apparent "gravity" increases the weight of the atmosphere captured by the spin (and thereby increasing the effect on everything else in the habitat, including the occupants) or pile enough air above a one-gee habitat such that it's pressure approximates one A. The earth does the latter with a column of air above your head that dozens of miles tall. The same would be necessary on a ringworld habitat - it would need miles-tall walls to contain a sufficient weight of atmosphere. The walls of the Elysium habitat were what - a few hundred feet tall at best? An atmosphere in a one-g ring of that size wouldn't support life - it would be like living at 90,000 feet, just shy of being in space.

[@Testosterooster]

"You little fuka, I'm gonna tear your fokin head off"

[@spyros186]

he went far from being a desk clerk in district 9

[@Faruq-xn4gj]

To me the best realistic exoskeleton is Powered Armor from Starship Troopers (OVA) Anime in 1988

[@nickwalker4936]

Faruq 9854 you are a god, sir.

[@killian9314]

the book is amazing and goes to detail into it, they are actual mobile tanks and custom fitted to the task they need, as tanks wouldnt work, and they also have nuclear bomber jets

[@Faruq-xn4gj]

@@killian9314 I never had the chance to read the book, but the anime is pretty faithful to original source. so if someone wants to know Starship Troopers I recommended watch the anime, then the book, but the first movie is good for its own merit.

[@Hengebobs]

That's because the 1988 anime follows the plot and descriptions in the book pretty closely. Though, calling it an exoskeleton is somewhat a misnomer. As the "skeleton" is internal to the armor and systems of the suit, which is where the delineation between "exoskeleton" and "power armor" is made in most sci fi that view the technologies more practically like cyberpunk 2020, and similar.

[@maidenjapan66]

Starship Troopers the book is my Bible. The most recent cgi movie was sacrilege.

[@joelellis7035]

Cyberdyne's HAL-5? Yes, they are indeed trolling us! Let me know when the HAL-9000 becomes available.

[@ianmoseley9910]

Joel Ellis At least they are not calling themselves Yoyodyne

[@DrownedInExile]

I can't let you do that, Dave.

[@nickwalker4936]

Exoskeletons don’t make you invincible, which is why you need to learn to use them properly. So do that. Your greatest weapon is between your ears, your brain. Use it.

[@GenerationFilms]

war never changes

[@senterioniv8]

Isn't that a quote from cod modern warface

[@akizeta]

@@senterioniv8 Is that your warface?

[@somebodywithaname8718]

Where is this quote from because I know there is a similar quote in cod AW but it isn't talking about exo-suits

[@LordJuz]

dude just used a quote from cod AW

[@superzilla784]

Not to mention that famous line in Edge of Tomorrow, "helmets get in the way" yes, they do. they stand between bullets and your skull

[@a-drewg1716]

actually no, helmets are not designed to stop bullets. Now sure modern day helmets can survive a hit from low caliber small arms fire, but from their first use in WWI to now they are specifically designed to protect the wearers head from shrapnel from explosives.

[@mercury1747]

Look a little bit closer, the infantry in Edge of Tomorrow are wearing plate carriers underneath their exo-skeletons. Those are what provide ballistic protection. Though, the argument could be made that the weight of armor plates simply is not worth carrying around since it is easily defeated by the alien weapons in the film.

[@LegionaryAtticus]

It's surreal to think that Heinlein predicted artificial musculature all the way back in 1959

[@immikeurnot]

His vision made tons of sense, too. He saw the power armor more like an extremely mobile tank than anything.

[@SergeyPRKL]

also surprising that we have more powerful computers on our wrists now than they had total computation capacity in the world in the 50's. Then on top of that we have this thing called phone... I have never read or seen anything like it in scifi litterature or movies. Phones today is truly a marvelous thing if looked from the last century, any time in last century, even 1999. Mostly that i have seen in scifi, have been some tablets or wristcontrols, yes. but they have relied on a centralized maincomputer and without connection to it, they render total useless, not even local comms works. Our wristwatches and phones still works. there's models with walkietalkie radio circuits, navigates without support solely relying on built in compass, and calculates etc without connection to central computer (Internez), it just cuts off some information related stuff. That is something that most best scifi writers didnt get in... Not even in Startrek the handheld apparatus is that fine what is a modern phone or wristwatch.

[@HimDead1228]

That damn profile picture bro!

[@LegionaryAtticus]

It might have something to do with the fact that I wrote this after being awake at Gunnery for 56 hours and didn't give enough of a fuck to write a better word

[@ldmorris306]

With my 17 years in the U.S. Marine Corps I have to say your analysis of movie exoskeletons confirm my opinion of them. Very cool to watch, but not very practical. Love your channel! Keep up the good work! Life is a game with no reset!

[@tofu_golem]

The APU from the Matrix didn't have armor because they were cobbled together from junk from a previous war in which they did have armor. The humans in Zion were able to scrounge up enough parts to get the powered exoskeleton working, but probably didn't bother with the armor because it proved useless in the previous war anyway.

[@johnrosswilhite9532]

I’ve always felt that the exoskeletons from S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Would be a very practical and realistic design for the near future. They’re fairly basic (no crazy wrist guns or shoulder mounted rocket launchers) so that they’re not too bulky. And it doesnt have any crazy abilities like being able to jump around like a parkour gymnast on crack cocaine. It just helps carry the load so the wearer can carry extra protective gear, ammo, and wear heavier armor

[@Doellimann]

Fun fact about drilling something in your body: Modern prosthetics can be fixed directly to bones.

[@kingjames4886]

"ok we love the suit... can you make it work without plugging it into a power plant?" "er... not yet"

[@jame3shook]

Another exo-skeleton is from the 1994 [TV] film called M.A.N.T.I.S. The user is a paraplegic crime fighter and developed the suit to bypass his spinal chord injury. As I recall, one side effect was super abilities.

[@sharpe227]

No mention of the Short lived Tv series? of the same name.

[@andrewgillis3073]

#2; the problem of attaching prosthetics to the human frame was discussed by Masamune Shirow in his work Ghost in the Shell way back in 1991.

[@dwafakiin1792]

Honestly I've always thought that Fallout, specifically Fallout 4's, power armor is actually pretty realistic to what we'd see IRL. A Sort of Juggernaut suit used by specialised infantry, allowing them to bridge the gap between infantry and mechanized armor like tanks. Not to mention, even the power source is somewhat possible and makes sense. The only unrealistic thing is the same as all other mechanized suits, and that's that people seem to think that because they're wrapped in metal, they can jump from any height. Reality is you'd quickly become a red puddle in the bottom of your suit if you tried that IRL. I guess they can have dampeners and such to allow you to jump from greater heights, but even still it will only be a matter of a few meters, rather than tens or even hundreds of meters like some of these movies claim.

[@Batkenpre]

I always thought that too

[@Snipergoat1]

I wouldn't get to hyped about fallout power armor. Other than a pathetic battery life these suits have no NBC protection. Sure they say they have rad resistance but huge visible gaps in the armor make that meaningless. They also lack any kind of air supply or positive pressure air filtration system. These power armored soldiers had less protection vs chemical attack than a WW1 soldier.

[@TheOnlyPedroGameplays]

@@Snipergoat1 surely some sort of non conductive, heat resistant (maybe cold resistant?) Airtight lining for the frame would be more realistic.

[@mrclean29]

Literally a tiny fusion reactor put on someone’s back and somehow it doesn’t produce thousands of degrees of heat. Very realistic.

[@robertagu5533]

Sounds to me in a few decades from now we'll have Smart guns or Edge of Tommorrow battle suits.. or both. Mixed with maybe some Mass Effect or Starship Troopers type gear. Sounds like fun.. While we're fighting aliens, Terminators, Xenomorphs, cyber Spighetti monsters and giant Cockroaches... secretly supplied and led by the Dolphins... on the high ground.

[@sirshotty7689]

I hope we have FUCKIN SPACE MARINES! Constant surgeries and implants of artificial organs and the most extreme mental and physical training sounds like fun!

[@Pipodecatan]

The thing is that every smart gadget can be fucked up with a smarter human

[@sicarius6501]

@@sirshotty7689*FOR THE EMPEROR*

[@elijahaitaok8624]

With ME it's explained that it's mainly ceramic shock plates with the technology of the most likely impossible barrier shields and the plausible omnitool. What would be great if we can start off with Kevlar and ceramic plate full body armour much like a medieval armour, with helmets we can set up cameras on the helmet and a screen inside the face plate

[@robertagu5533]

@@elijahaitaok8624 kinda where I think it's headed personally. That's just me though. Given the fictional BUT plausible tech of these sci-fi franchises across all kinds of entertainment compared to real life equipment and the directions they are apparently being developed in. Which would logically assume Omnitools/VR ME style interfaces are plausible. Full body battle suits likely in a few decades. Mini railguns also same as the suits eventually since we apparently have developed the large artillery ALREADY for special use. NOW we just need to figure out that peacetime warp thing. And other space related tech like Teraforming, inter species comms and large scale deep space building and living along with building are own Star Destroyers and the like and the world of ME, HALO, Starship troopers an similar will be a reality..

[@michaelramon2411]

Other major flaw with the wrist/shoulder mounted weapon - how the hell are you supposed to reload that thing?

[@dagonofthedepths]

well a wrist mounted gun can still have a magazine in it that you can change unless its a back mounted ammo basket in which case if you run out of all of that ammo your screwed anyways.

[@unknow11712]

in the film of edge of tumorrow , they are actual weapons ( they even take them out at some point showing that) there is automatic sistem of reaload, when they are out of ammo, as any soldier on the filed, its shit time . in matrix you have a similar sistem of light machineguns , 1 big ammo basket that when end , its the end . reloading its a luxury you can do after you killed evrything you had to kill ; or just die .

[@PedtheFox]

Reloading is for pussy, when you are out of ammo, you change exoskeleton or you know, you just die.

[@MrJH101]

In the novel, _All You Need is Kill_ (original version of Edge of Tomorrow), the protagonist ends up facing this exact problem within the first few pages. They always figured that no mere infantryman would ever live long enough on their own to have to utilize all of their shoulder ammo, which was really only effective at close range anyways. However, after he figures out he’s the last one in his unit who hasn’t been slaughtered yet, he does a quick ammo check on all his weapons and realizes he’s out of everything, except for a few rounds left in his shoulder weapon. He starts cursing at his luck in life because he can’t reload the damn thing on his own and the enemy is right on top of him. It’s at that point, he realizes he’s pretty much about to die in a few seconds, which becomes the moment he first meets Rita.

[@morty2chipking656]

In Edge of Tomorrow they show Tom Cruise reloading, the magazine ejects and a new one pops out on the hip of his exoskeleton, just watch the movie

[@dustinshadle732]

im a paraplegic, and i loved how you started with people like me with an SCI that keeps us from live a full life. i know they can regrow damaged parts of the spinal cord, but not severe damage. its all still experimental, but eventually i hope both technologies come to fruition.

[@NAGATO2044]

tiberium silo needed, harvester under attack , lowe power (c&c3) GF can you talk about GDI zone troopers and nod cyborg

[@robertkalinic335]

Kane lives!

[@NAGATO2044]

@@robertkalinic335 One Vision, One Purpose

[@robertkalinic335]

@@NAGATO2044 C&C knew how to make villains cool, religious fanatics polluting planet and killing people yet we would choose them over civilized remains of humanity.

[@kabob0077]

I GOT A PRESENT FOR YA!

[@Vezerai]

Whats there to say?

[@matrimalviarin5043]

I have two questions 1.Could you say that General Grievous is condtantly using an exo-suit? 2. Who would win in a fight between Immortal and Dog Lover Keanu Reeves, Vampire Nicholas Cage, unrelenting assassin/sociopath Matt Damon, and extraterrestial Scientology Champion Tom Cruise in a free-for-all?

[@GenerationFilms]

interesting grevious is more cyborg i guess like robocop... who would win? Tom Cruise will go all out, Nic Cage will try to probably consume Tom Cruise thinking that he has some kind of power and Matt Damon will whine about how the entire fight is not fair. While Keanu quietly ninjas everyone.

[@scottthewaterwarrior]

Nic Cage will take Keanu's face off!

[@Kj16V]

No he's a cyborg

[@flameconvoy7424]

Matrim Alviarin grievous case is more like extreme prosthetics. He does seem to have an exoskeleton but not an exo suit

[@Hello-xn3jv]

Tom Cruise will dump them into a volcano and then blow the volcano up

[@spartan5018]

rip stan lee

[@davidmundy2906]

I remember an old tv series called Mantis, the main character was a paraplegic and his suit enabled him to walk and do all kinds of superhero stuff

[@pakman2942]

Tiberian crystals saying that brings back memories ahhh 👏😏

[@AtrociousAK47]

"Silos needed!"

[@AirmanDuke03]

Just found your channel. Started with the myths about WW2 aerial combat and I've been on a binge. You guys do a fantastic job, and I hope this channel blows up. Keep up the good work!

[@Suprasylph]

Matt Damon's character was already dying from acute radiation poisoning and only had days to live anyway. Assuming that he did survive his ordeal, the med bays in Elysium would have fixed him anyway. So the lack of antibiotics/sanitary operating conditions was a non-issue. Additionally, the suit he was wearing was Russian - this is commentary about the real world analog of how Russian technology has always historically lagged behind First World tech and also speaks of the desperation behind their actions and the sketchy nature of black market tech.

[@Ag3nt0fCha0s]

If Russian tech has generally lagged behind Western tech then why did they get the super reliable AK47 with 30 rounds per mag while the west were using bolt action rifles with a 3rd of that? Why was it that the Russkis developed the tank cupbola? Why was it that they were the 1st to have off boresight targetting by up to 70 degrees while Western fighters still needed to get on the nose to achieve a lock? You know that the designer of the f22, called Gary, studied refractal wave physics at tbe feet of Russki scientist Pyote Ufimtsev, later using that science to produce the f22? I have more...

[@NapalmStrike802]

Ag3nt0fCha0s the key word is historically, it wasn’t until the 1930’s Russia industrialized. For a long time they were behind technology wise than Western Europe. Everything you mentioned is true to an extent but was after Russia caught up to everyone else. Also the west has semi automatic weapons like the garand and the AK47 was heavily based off the StG-44.

[@roguereaver634]

@@NapalmStrike802 And years before they had the Garand (which itself is heavily inspired by the French RSC 1917 rifle) they were field testing the Fedorov Avtomat, which was originally designed with a propriety intermediate cartridge like all modern ARs but switched to Arisaka ammo for logistical reasons

[@NapalmStrike802]

Kyle Reese are you actually stupid? The AK literally uses the exact same Gas mechanism and gas piston. If you do a side by side comparison you can tell you similar they are

[@dragonoffire5705]

Master chiefs armor isn’t an exoskeleton, it’s just normal body armor, like a second skin

[@iamboringvideos6832]

More like heavy armor if you think about it

[@jeff8253]

I just realiez, how does matt damon in Elysium change clothes when the exoskeleton is attached to his body?

[@KrautGoesWild]

After my stroke, the doctors couldn't say if I would ever walk or even be able to talk and have a normal conversation again. Then came the day, while I was sitting in my wheelchair and looked out of the hospital's windows, this beautiful nurse hurried by, tripped and fell down right next to me. I said "Let me give you a hand", stood up, helped her up and only realized then that the whole staff was gazing at me, jaws on belt level. (I hadn't even known what actually had happened a few months earlier...)

[@boredguy6379]

What type of sci-fi exoskeleton would perform better? A mechanical one with hydraulics and cables or a biological one with artificial muscles? (Great vid!)

[@Tezunegari]

I'd put my money on artificial muscles (AM from here). Hydraulics are vulnerable and the moment their containment is compromised or a piston bend the system won't work. AM (like the ones used in Crysis Suits) can partially tear but still be used albeit at a reduced rate. Theoretically it might even be less power intense if you have access to memory materials that can switch between two states (or according to the energy channelled similar to real muscles) . And AM would offer a cushioning effect if they are engineered around a soft material with the mentioned memory abilities. Downside of AM would be the complexity of repairs. Hydraulics have that one on their side.

[@eltxbox2496]

I would think hydraulics put out more max force than artificial muscle too. So the power loader in alien would better suited for work(hydraulic) plus as stated above, easier to fix.very important for industrial use. Artificial muscle better for combat.

[@warpartyattheoutpost4987]

Whichever is most cost effective for it's role, so there would be different models for different applications, like vehicles are now.

[@Riceball01]

For a military combat role the AM would work best for the reasons you stated. For civilian use or use in the military for things like handling supplies, loading weapons onto aircraft, hydraulics would work just fine.

[@jacksonw453]

Combine both and you got space marine armour

[@RolfHartmann]

One of the problems I had with the suits in Edge of Tomorrow was the choice of a very short 5.56 carbine for the wrist guns. Like you pointed out that place might be useful for a close combat weapon, but 5.56 is best at medium ranges (it was optimized for firefights at about 200m), so an auto-shotgun would be a far better choice especially if it fires frag rounds.

[@ultimateanthony1883]

You can't compare them with modern technology. Movies have there own universe and set of rules ,the only thing they owe is to be interesting .

[@Batkenpre]

Ya I never understand why people keep using are current tech for this analysis

The last point reminds me of the problem with female armor in games: "protect your shoulders but leave your tits and your belly VERY exposed so the player can -mast- see how fit she is"

[@DekkerDave]

I like how Matt Damon does exo-skeleton powered melee and yet it doesn't crush his hand and wrist bones. But other movies and games are guilty of this too - in the Edge of tomorrow Rita caries large rotor-blade sword just with her bare hands. I'm willing to accept the exo-suit has enough power to lift it and even swing it with such a ferocity but her hands must be at Hulk-level.

[@wmhazim5030]

wut? i though that is the purpose of exoskeleton? to not crush your hand and not need hulk level power to pick up heavy stuff??

[@danilooliveira6580]

@@wmhazim5030 your hand doesn't have an exoskeleton of its own in edge of tomorrow. her hand was caring the weight of the blade.

[@matagatos1]

It was based on a manga where the exosuit is more iron Man like.

[@nebless-clem]

@@matagatos1 The one from the books and manga makes a hell of a lot more sense, the film version was a complete joke

[@dannybenhur6123]

I didn't realize this

[@measlyfurball37]

This video is the boon of every science fiction writer. Thank you.

[@morty2chipking656]

Great video, and what you said about the shrapnel and stray bullets makes sense, but the suits from edge of tommorow r for killing mimics, and if a mimic gets at you, you probably will die regardless of how many ballistic plates you have

[@Gottaculat]

10:08, I want to see a movie where someone tries to do this ground pound trope, but breaks their knee and hand, then gets shot and killed. Far better to roll forward to transfer your vertical momentum horizontally (you see free-runners do this to great effect), and it's still cool looking.

[@gmorjuela]

The thumbnail is BRUTAL

[@polygonalfortress]

That guy on the thumbnail would be deaf in less than 5 seconds if the guns fire

[@nwabuezeozuzu6370]

Not if the gun has some futuristic sound suppression technology he won't.

[@RedwoodTheElf]

To be a bit pedantic, the gun system mentioned at 1:50 doesn't decrease the weight of the weapon, it redistributes it to the soldier's hips, lowering the strain on his arms.

[@snuzzysnorlax1253]

So advanced warfares exosuits were honestly the best interpretation of what future exoskeletons may be?

[@supernova5293]

They were my favourite.

[@EmpReb]

Yes or the Crysis Nano suit if nanotech takes off.

[@MrShadowpanther3]

In the John Steakley book Armor, they wore full body enclosed nuclear powered armor. Air, water, food, information displays, communication, fast speeds, and built in weaponry were the norm. The soldier could fight in air, water, or vacuum with equal ease.

[@Killerean]

The problem with lag in exoskeleton might not dissapear when liked directly to the brain. Human brain tends to preload movement information in to the rest of the body and repeated action triggers muscle memory. With an exoskeleton linked directly, this memory issue may become serious. Humans tend to learn movements by repeating them and loading them in to their muscle memory, as well as making brand new brain connections to load and trigger memory. After time this memory contains ton of stuff and this system tends to work pretty well when guessing what to do Our machines though are not very good even when it comes to guessing what word will be next in a written sentence. No seriously, autocorrect is an endless pain in the butt. Learning then, on how to guess next desired move seems next to impossible with todays technology.

[@GenerationFilms]

Very interesting thanks for sharing

[@nathanielblanchard7975]

While auto correct is pretty bad, machine learning is an active area of research and we can reasonably expect it to improve over the coming years. In addition, language is extremely flexible; start a sentence with “I will” or any other subject followed by a verb and the sentence could go any number of directions. I suspect that movement is much less varied and thus more predictable.

[@EmpReb]

That was actually a big thing in the original All you need is KILL book Edge of Tomorrow was based on. The auto balance system SLOWED the users because if a human can control the exosuit full manual he would really be faster than using AI to make it easier to use based off what you talked about earlier.

[@gavin7683]

i would have thought that the best aspect of exoskeletons would be the recoil mitigation. being able to repeatedly fire high powered weapons without feeling the impact would be a major benefit

[@Termperature]

You should make 10 reasons why dolphins are rapists

[@theguh728]

horny

[@Catonzo]

I've never found exoskeletons to be cool when they were basically humanized motion in a metal shell. I always wanted them to be slow, heavy, whirring or hydraulic sounds - solidifying that they are mobile infantry, but at the same time a tank. Power Armor shouldn't run with human motion, but rather slow motions at high speed (meaning longer steps). Mostly they are just made for walking. Strong enough to deflect any projectiles that you would be susceptible to. Space Marines of WH40k kinda do this well; they do move very fast, but when they do run they do it in long steps. Heavy weaponry utilizing HUDs while "small arms" bolters more utilize experience. Also the suits interface with their body, so if they tense up their bicep, the suit responds in kind. Seems to be more that it reads the body than the mind.

[@hellothere_1257]

I think you are wrong about shoulder mounted weapons. Think about it, a computer tracks the soldier's eye movement on his HUD to select targets, an image recognition program then determines the exact outline of the enemy soldier, and the robotic arm holding the rifle uses that information to fire dead accurate shots even under heavy recoil and mid-sprint. Also since the rifle is mounted above the user's head and gets targeted via the HUD you can fire over obstacles or around corners while staying completely within cover. If you ever played airsoft or a realistic military shooter you'll know that the ability to accurately fight an enemy without exposing yourself to him makes for a complete gamechanger. The sound is of course a bit of a problem but you can easily solve that via high or low tech earmuffs.

[@wargearinternational7679]

Aimingsystems, that target humans are already mostly developed.

[@kieronwheeler3087]

The hearing problem is a bit of a non-issue really, as a conventional rifle is easily closer to your ear than a shoulder mounted weapon would be anyway, and communication systems have been developed to operate using ear plugs to sense vocal resonance in the inner ear, whilst also operating as a speaker to receive communications. The main problems would be integrating the targeting, and recoil control systems into a package which could be carried by a person, and which wouldn't affect the ability to pass through a doorway.

[@Mizzle420420]

I like your subtle Command & Conquer: Tiberian Sun Easter egg

[@Abrxas01]

I thought you said this was based on our modern tech? We have Gyroscopic stabilization, especially for mounted weapons. We also have helmet mounted HUD that is linked to a gun for targeting purposes. Both of these would work for your shoulder and wrist mounted weapons. Also, we have these handy things called earplugs, or if your feeling super higher tech, electronic ear pro for those super loud weapons. Heck, they even come with BLUETOOTH now. Amazing I know.

[@redholm]

Not to forget being able to bring 9 rockets and a LMG with armor piercing extra on a normal battlefield is game changing vs only having your standard rifle. And with target assistance trough a hud in your helmet they can fire over obstacles.

[@taurianferguson]

Couldn't agree more about shielding and headgear. Why even fight against those octopus things in day after tomorrow with exosketons if you're still carrying guns too weak to get a quick kill?

[@WRMonger1]

Taurian Ferguson It’s the 5.56 doctrine. Damage the enemy to use up their resources. In ultimate warfare that’s a losing strategy and the US is starting to figure it out. Lately the Army has been researching more lethal rounds such as the 6.5 Creedmoor which has lethality out to 1,200 meters. I can’t even see that far anymore...

[@alexbrown7015]

This is how you get a video to ten minutes. Fill it with good content

[@houselemuellan8756]

"Cyberdyne" goddamnit Japan

[@donovannotmyname7306]

They are wearing vests in Edge of Tomorrow

[@GenerationFilms]

I like to wear a vest when it gets cold out too

[@donovannotmyname7306]

@@GenerationFilms As do I, but I would really love some non vented pants to keep my legs warm. 48°F right now.

[@GenerationFilms]

well the guy wearing the heavy suit always went into combat with no pants, that's something we can all learn from

[@donovannotmyname7306]

@@GenerationFilms Certainly is.

[@killian9314]

@@GenerationFilms Nance: oh for christ´s sake Kimmel Kimmel: Gotta be free man!

[@ungooy]

One thing I should point out that was omitted is the APU and it's lack of armor. The armor was removed also because of that fact that sentinels, which would be the primary enemy unit they would face, would be able to cut through the armor and it's pilot regardless, making the armor redundant in many ways to the point of being almost entirely superficial. Additionally, for the trained pilots of Zion, the armor and whatever systems were incorporated was stated to be more of a hindrance than an aid, which might where the speed argument comes in. Not just in the actual mobility, but the able of the pilot to operate effectively.

[@jch7687]

U half to remember what the suit is designed for, the suits in days of tomorrow weren’t built to stop bullets, they were built to fight freaking aliens

[@nebulus4700]

Jch so how does very little shielding help with that?, there are explosions like everywhere durning the movies action scenes so I think some shrapnel protection would help with surviving, and the aliens shot projectiles too so yea, alien bullets

[@nebulus4700]

IAM SERIOUS Why You No Serious the suit from the novel and manga made much more sense, manga design was great, too bad it was pretty pointless in the face of them mimic spikes

[@Archer28M]

You don't nead an armor for the wepons that will kill you when it hits you. You nead exso for wering a wepons that can kill them too. So all the soldiers are just canon food. One mision onlly kill or be killed.

[@dagonofthedepths]

@@Archer28M but armor would be the least expensive part of that suit, even if it doesn't save you from the aliens they are firing missiles at point blank range all over the place. a metal plate would at least save you from shrapnel. hell it might even save you from a glancing blow.

[@Archer28M]

@@dagonofthedepths Implementing hard plate to a sistem that is moving hard it,s over engeniring. You nead soft armor for srapnels. It's simple spead requires light weight, big armor demands power. So if you take the movie: Edge of tomorrov you can see some of soldiers in exso skeletons use armor shilds some don't.

[@UnimpressedGoose]

It's good to see mans admitting he isn't ready to become a gaming channel instead of rushing into it for those dollar bills

[@martinbudinsky8912]

Armors from Halo or Fallout shouldnt be taken into consideration as they arent skeletons but armors (each serves different purpose - armors are meant primarily for fighting exoskeletons arent even though they can be used for it they dont serve as defense but aid for lifitng heavy objects or moving around). And Mechs shouldnt be included either as they are piloted vehicles not exoskeletons (they dont attach directly to your body) so nope Matrix, Avatar or Pacific Rim dont belong to this category either.

[@supernova5293]

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[@KILLR-co2up]

"Although earlier attempts at developing high-powered armor produced designs that were impractical for battlefield deployment, the Mark IV Mjolnir powered exoskeleton would be the first successful powered armor system that saw deployment onto the battlefield."- halopedia

[@rottenspooks3518]

Master chief isn't wearing an exo-skeleton, he wears segmented power armour.

[@aaravtulsyan]

I find the lack of Star Wars in this channel disturbing

[@robertkalinic335]

No thanks, there is shitload of other channels doing just that...

[@GenerationFilms]

lol well we have a channel for that

[@aaravtulsyan]

I know about G'Tech that's why I made this comment as a joke

[@minatozakisana2005]

Advanced Warfare exoskeletons are by far the coolest and the most practical exo design that could be made in real life

[@AaronAlso]

I seriously laughed out loud to .... "When we finally develop Tony Stark's fusion reactor..." Already done... in 1989 by Pons and Fleischmann... unfortunately they went public prior to any real peer review and without enough documentation to support their claims and where completely shutdown. Some say this was when real science died, since they we discredited not by a group of peers proving they had nothing but by a vote of a small number of peers whom had never done the experiment themselves. Thirty years later simply saying the words "Cold Fusion" is enough to ruin a career. Today you have to call it LENR (Low Energy Nuclear Reaction) or LANR (Lattice Assisted Nuclear Reaction) Although, after all this time there is plenty of publicly available information on the subject and it has been proven to be a type of fusion it is still completely ignored by nearly all of the scientific community.

[@llamallamapajama9571]

According to stellaris we dont even need cold fusion to make hyperdrives since in the game thats the first upgrade for ship engines

[@Church449]

In edge of tommorow, each soldier is wearing a plane carrier with armor.

[@therookie7060]

If you guys were to set up a gaming channel would it be called generation games?

[@GenerationFilms]

I mean yea we kind of already have the name setup

[@therookie7060]

@@GenerationFilms cool I hope it goes well.

[@loganb7059]

Well with the aiming of the wrist mounted weapons, perhaps they could have a targeting system that aids the user in making slight adjustments. Basically have some system to allow the weapon to pivot up, down, left and right slightly to lock onto a designated target.

[@scifience8297]

please re-upload your video on movies for each state

[@GenerationFilms]

You mean this? kzbin.info/www/bejne/f4K8emSggr6Kq9U

[@scifience8297]

@@GenerationFilms Thanks and also please do a video on what the Napoleon film Stanley Kubrick planned would´ve been like

[@pyeitme508]

@@GenerationFilms How well will Edge of Tomorrow Metal Jackets work in the Star Wars Galaxy if Terrans(Earth humans) fight against the Galactic Empire or First Order during a ground warfare?!

[@nathenekker5440]

It's a relatively small detail, yet a peeve of mine nonetheless. A mechanized frame surrounding, and worn by a person is an exoskeleton. Operational purpose is to reduce felt weight by the operator, as opposed to provide protection. Add full body armored plates to that frame, and it's powered armor. Now, that frame's purpose is to provide protection to the operator. While most powered armors do provide the user with some form of augmented strength, it's limited due to the weight of the armor itself. Exception to the norm is Mjolnir Powered Armor from the Halo universe, which augments the strength of the user (who is already stronger than a typical person), while offering a high degree of bodily protection. Once the unit is no longer covering the body, but rather has a definable 'cockpit' from which the operator pilots the frame, it's no longer effectively armor. At this point, the frame is considered a Mecha, as it is a human piloted robotic platform. Or at least, these are the broad categories as I've come to understand them, classified by intended role and means of operation. The difficulty with categorizing these is a result of most people being largely unaware of the differences, or simply do not care enough to bother with the differences.

[@pyeitme508]

Only Special Operations Forces can get these in the future.

[@Hengebobs]

Meh, until the development of myomers and neural interfaces exoskeleton would be pretty useless militarily except for artillery and other support troops who lift/move heavy stuff. Exos would be utterly useless to special operations, heavy (at least a couple hundred pounds extra) making movement in terrain like swamps, jungle and buildings not made from reinforced concrete more difficult. Also, they need power, which would drastically limit the range and versatility of spec ops troops.

[@OrDuneStudios]

@@Hengebobs it could reinvent heavy infantry. ie armoured. Suits of that nature could be armoured and carry heavier firepower. So a section (8) of 7.62-12.7 weilding heavy troopers to augment a company of normal infantry.

[@Hengebobs]

@@OrDuneStudios Sure, but that would require radical improvement in power systems (either miniature nuclear systems or extremely high density batteries), or radical reduction in power requirements (myomers instead of hydraulics/electric motors). Would also require improvements in control/response systems. Obviously light, long lasting, exos would be awesome for infantry, but it will be viable for support roles long before its practical for combat roles.

[@georgethompson913]

@@Hengebobs you forget non powered weight redistribution exoskeletons could solve these issues while allowing for heavier weapon and ammo capacities.

[@Hengebobs]

@@georgethompson913 Not so much, they are cumbersome, for grunts every ounce matters not because its "heavy" bit because of how it impacts your endurance and mobility. If a support system lets you carry more but makes you move more slowly its a net loss, not gain. Its the reason leg infantry will wear a helmet and vest, but not full body suits of armor or even the shoulder/leg add-ons from the interceptor system.

[@Rudeboyja92]

"My name is Allen"is awesome to watch especially since these quarantined months

[@andrewlee7755]

That guy strapped to the plane probably regretted ever doing that.

[@markbrown3587]

Where does it say that the reason the exoskeleton was drilled into his bones was to support itself?... Maybe it was supporting his skeleton in the same way metal plates are attached to bones to support them when broken.

[@UnstableEquilibrium]

I thought of Boba and Jango Fett when you were talking about wrist mounted weapons. They have them, but also use normal guns.

[@adamorick2872]

You forget the US military systems currently in use. The ready arm you mentioned is coming back into military use in conjunction with the new exoskeleton that is actually getting ready for infantry deployment

[@Dragonblaster1]

The fastest movement humans have is in reflex movement. And that pretty much bypasses the brain altogether. The brain registers the movement after it has happened. This is why I think that our consciousness is not like a pilot, but more like an observer, who takes notes about consequences and lessons learnt from actions and remembers them for the body.

[@eobardthawne3333]

About the shoulder mounted stuff 1. Rockets don't have recoil 2. This is the millitary, a suppressor that doesn't slow the bullet will help.

[@crplsteve]

Rockets do have recoil, its all just vented out the back instead of all escaping via the barrel. A suppressor by operation slows down the muzzle velocity of the bullet, this is because all that propellant gas is siphoned off and made to travel further thus reducing the pressure behind the bullet. Not only that if you are using non subsonic munitions, you will still get a ear piercing crack as the round goes through the sound barrier upon leaving the barrel.

[@aaronseet2738]

How can Matt Damon be coming after me? He's caught in yet another situation that needs others to rescue him.

[@kolinmartz]

The thing about exoskeletons are they’ll be a net zero when it comes to the user’s comfort and convenience. What I mean by that is, the more weight you can carry, the more weight they’ll make you carry as standard.

[@moonshine588]

Doctor Octopus is furious he didn’t get a mention.

[@tacticalmeme732]

On the subject of exoskeleton power supplies, someone made an unpowered exoskeleton for airsoft that allows them to carry two miniguns with very little effort.

[@stanshatter3875]

The APU is a mech like the titans from titan fall, not an exo suit. A MECH is a suit like vehicle, because the pilot is controlling it with gears, levers, buttons, trigger remotes, and or screens.

[@user-pq4by2rq9y]

The shoulder rocket pod could actually be fine with a little redesign to make it work like a recoiless rifle. But then, back blast will become a serious issue.

[@arielfetters5662]

The No-Armor thing with several of these armors isn't an issue because the enemy does so much damage that no amount of realistically mountable armor would do more than slow them down for a split second, meaning mounting it is pretty much pointless when you can save the weight/bulk and thus increase the mobility. To put it simply, why wear a bulletproof vest on a battlefield where everyone's using anti armor rocket launchers?

[@a.t6066]

That's silly. So say everyone is firing rocket launchers on a battlefield and I opt not to wear a bulletproof vest because of that.... Then I fall down and get impaled on a stick or get shrapnel to the chest. Armor isn't there to stop everything, it's there to stop specific things. Think about why soldiers wear helmets to battle. It's more weight and doesn't stop rifle ammunition but does that mean it shouldn't be worn?

[@arielfetters5662]

Helmets actually WILL stop bullets up to a particular caliber, and are heavily built enough, plus 'styled' in such a way as to maximize the chance to make an incoming bullet ricochet as opposed to penetrate. As for the stick and Shrapnel... not a bad point. A bodysuit incorporating safety features (Like fire resistance) with an outer layer of kinetic reactive gel would be a decent addition.

[@a.t6066]

@@arielfetters5662 they may stop pistol cartidges but that's not why they are worn. They are worn to stop bumps, impacts, or shrapnel and whatnot. Little things that may be seen as insignificant but can kill someone

[@morty2chipking656]

E. P Mmmk, you can wear a ballistic vest with your exoskeleton, but if you were fighting something like a mimic being impaled is probably something you would think about

[@a.t6066]

@@morty2chipking656 yes?

[@hardgay7537]

The reason movies (and games) ditch armor and helmets is largely to make the actor more human and relatable, as well as allowing the director to just use the actor's face to highlight emotion. Maybe people should stop trying the spin the novel Starship Troopers as something fascist and instead note that those suits checked every box that makes power armor work.

[@olivermckowen135]

I remember the first time I watched the Starship Troopers movie with my mom, who was a fan of the novel. She told me about all the differences in tech between the movie and book, and while I do love the movie for what it is, I still want to see fully armored soldiers bouncing around firing personal nuke launchers

[@hardgay7537]

@@olivermckowen135 Yeah, the movie blew my 8 year old mind when I first saw it. I still love it. It's a pretty rad action movie, and the special effects have aged astonishingly well - partly because they didn't try to do cgi mech suits with 1997-level tech, I think. However, I gotta give credit where it's due, and while the movie is a great action flick, the novel was a rad sci-fi setting and I really liked how Heinlein depicted the rising cost of training and equipping soldiers and how elite their expensive gear made them.

[@501ststormtrooper9]

I think that the Halo ODST Armor is good, and so is the Spartan armor since it doesn’t expose the body.

[@DoctorX17]

The problem of hiding the actor's face is why Iron Man has all those in-helmet shots with the HUD -- instead of Tony disappearing into the suit, or the suit not having a mask, you get the best of both worlds.

[@peoplez129]

If actors wore full covering exoskeletons, you could say it's unrealistic too. For example, in the Matrix, a full armor covering wouldn't have saved anyone. The squids could cut and tear through armor, so all it really means is a few more moments of life and a slower mech. I'd imagine they also had other things they could repurpose the extra metal for. They also need more situational awareness. In the Day after Tomorrow, they're facing an alien enemy that is winning, has great numbers, and can also tear through armor/structures. When you're fighting a war for your life, more bullets shot at the enemy matters than more defense. You also have to allocate materials to build hardware as efficiently as possible. One exoskeleton like in the movie, vs one fully armored exoskeleton....that would take like 10+ exoskeletons of materials to build for one soldier. At that point, armoring one soldier for very little benefit vs making 10 suits for 10 soldiers with the same firepower, would be a huge tactical error. It's not just the material, but also the build time. One fully armored mech suit would take way longer to make, not to mention more power to operate. This is the same reason why we don't have mechs today. Technically, you could say a tank is a mech. It has basically the same functions, even more firepower than a mech would ever have, but it's slow, takes a lot of resources and time to build, and can be defeated. It certainly offers WAY better armor than a mech suit ever would, and moves faster too, and does so more efficiently. Having to lift and move forward giant metal legs takes way more energy than turning a wheel. So the truth is, mechs aren't very efficient in general. So why didn't they use tanks in the Day after Tomorrow? They probably did. But you have to keep in mind, this was the final battle. It was the all or nothing battle. They were already on the verge of losing the war. So the tactic was to throw everything they could at the enemy, and they didn't have much time to do it. Tanks and a large mech are also fairly useless against an agile fast moving enemy. Only good for ranged attacks. Once the enemies got up close, there wouldn't be much they could do to fight back. You're certainly not shooting tank shells at your feet, especially not with your own infantry around you. Even an advanced large armored mech would take forever to turn around, even if it rotated at the waist, because you have to move tons upon tons of weight. And all of those require hardware to do, hardware that once damaged can't be easily fixed, and pretty much makes having the extra armor futile. Some kind of hydraulic system goes out, and your mech is useless. Even ONE thing destroyed would make an armored suit useless. On a tank, you can lose wheels and still be in the game. On a mech, if one of your leg hydraulics gets taken out.....you can't move anymore. You can't even turn to aim anymore. The truth is, mech suits aren't the future and never will be. They can aid battle, but beyond that, a heavily armored vehicle with a turret weapon will be far more effective. The main reason for exoskeleton suits is reducing the weight of the weapons. That's it. A 10lb gun might not sound all that heavy, but try carrying around a 10lb weight all day....you'll be aching. Then there's ammo and other supplies. So really, they just allow a soldier to effortlessly carry more, which keeps the soldier from being as easily fatigued. Most people would be out of breath before they could finish sprinting a mile, with nothing but shorts on. Let alone with a backpack full of supplies and ammo and 40lbs worth of weapons. At that rate, most people wouldn't be able to run 2 blocks without being winded, and by the time they got to where they needed to go, they would be soo exhausted they wouldn't be able to fight effectively. So in conclusion, there's absolutely nothing wrong with how exoskeleton suits are portrayed in films.

[@That80sGuy1972]

I agree with most of your points. In Elysium, the drilling of the exoskeleton into the brain and spine was not a structural thing, it was implanting crude neurological and thought-based sensors for the exoskeleton. It had nothing to do with the exoskeleton's support system, just direct neural access. Also, its exoskeleton was supposed to be a cheap black market hack of its technology. It was the best criminal counterfeit to body-boosting they had. I thought it was dead, spot-on perfect for the story. It was a rich vs. poor story with the Yakuza (criminals who learned to love the poor) becoming the metaphorical Robin Hoods (again, criminals who learned to love the poor). When the law protects and empowers those with all the wealth and power, the best criminal forces become the heroes.

[@allennelson1987]

As for the Matt Damon movie, I think the characters knew the suit's flaws.

[@HappyHippieGaymer]

Liked for Tiberium! My first tattoos were the symbols for The Brotherhood of NOD and the Global Defense Initiative (GDI).

[@Tom-zf6yl]

Awesome video! I do believe that Tom Cruise is wearing a plate carrier under the chest connector thing.

[@Draycoe]

Well done, humor and information well presented!

[@Jake-co7rt]

Iron Man suits are among the worst offenders. The slamming and bouncing that suit takes, no matter how tough the suit itself is, would turn Tony Stark into a blob of red jelly inside that thing. But after all, it IS a comic book character. (c:

[@angryzombie8088]

Some say "No armor is best armor" but in EoT context, I think the lack of armor is due to required speed of production, quantity, cost, raw material & weight. And for an obvious reason, unprecedented alien invasion. The hearing loss is a very legit fact.

[@dragoninthewest1]

I just want a power armor like the Marauder class suit mentioned in the Starship Troopers book and shown in Starship Troopers traitor of Mars. It has jump Jets, back mounted rockets/machine guns and most of the stuff is controlled by clicking your HUD with your eyes and jaw leaving your hands open to carry the standard infantry rifle.

[@math1ass10]

3:37 *TERMINATOR THEME SONG INTENSIFIES*