5 Ways to Use the Circle of Fifths | Music Theory

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@PhylaMedia
@PhylaMedia 8 жыл бұрын
that was explained better in 20 minutes than it was in a whole year of classical theory at the community college I went to.
@johnnyjudis9163
@johnnyjudis9163 7 жыл бұрын
thats cause schools like to wring your pockets by dragging out one day lessons to an entire year
@GarrettMusic1
@GarrettMusic1 7 жыл бұрын
we all learn in different ways
@brendan8915
@brendan8915 7 жыл бұрын
I agree, however more easily understood thanks to Ryan than 12 years of school and countless drunken conversations with mates.
@yeetstyle
@yeetstyle 8 жыл бұрын
that interactive circle of fifths link is a massive time-saver. thank you!
@mkraso
@mkraso 6 жыл бұрын
I went through quite a few other explanations of circle of fifths, none gave me this much info i can actually understand. Great work!
@ScrolltheNature
@ScrolltheNature 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks now i know how to use circle of fifth & will check if the lessons i am following also adhere it, but thanks Ryan for the patience to explain things step by step & not rushing.
@Johnhasa1
@Johnhasa1 4 жыл бұрын
Best vid I've come across on this topic.
@TheeColdpleeWeezer
@TheeColdpleeWeezer 7 жыл бұрын
5:19 SHART
@nicoamicone
@nicoamicone 8 жыл бұрын
I'm loving Pyramind!! Learning tons of tips and tricks about composing and sound designing, which is my passion 😍
@dhoch
@dhoch 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent. And presented in such a comforting manner!
@johntorres8333
@johntorres8333 2 жыл бұрын
I fucking loved this. My beginner mind was BLOWN! THANK YOU!
@monkeydad
@monkeydad 7 жыл бұрын
Finally - now I understand how to use this tool in practice! Thank you for explaining!
@KOSMIKFEADRECORDS
@KOSMIKFEADRECORDS 6 жыл бұрын
I blend the B diminished with Cmaj, Emin, or Gmaj. By adding those roots on the bass to B dim, new chords other than B dim happen. And it works in modern music just fine! :)
@notrningwheels
@notrningwheels 7 жыл бұрын
Great job explaining this approach! I find the Circle of 5ths to be a huge time saver for analyzing existing music, but I think it is extremely cumbersome to use during composition. I agree with John Coltrane's assertion that starting with a melody based on note intervals and layering harmonies with the melody is more true to the notion of music as a language. Starting with Key Signatures and Chords usually leads to limp noodle compositions that create lots of work for performers without delivering any clear message to the audience. Usually doesn't mean always; but if you make your melody an afterthought, there's a slim chance anyone else will care about it.
@AnthonyUFOLundell
@AnthonyUFOLundell 7 жыл бұрын
Can we talk about composition.. ? Could you explain how to apply the circle of 5ths to music in (songwriting or improvising ? is it for analyzing only.. for figuring out what key your in based on the number of sharps or flats? If I kept repeating the circle of 5ths cycle, I understand I am adding a sharp each time,,, my question is, why would this be done.? Key changes? a Modal reason, non diatonically speaking? Thanks
@notrningwheels
@notrningwheels 7 жыл бұрын
Anthony Lundell You would use these during songwriting or inprovising to implement classical music theory, which will make your music sound more familiar...That's Not something I usually need help doing with my compositions, but some people might find it useful. this is simply a chart of musical musical relationships. If you understand the words on the chart and the terms in the video it will allow you to look these relationships up and/or memorize them more easily.
@AnthonyUFOLundell
@AnthonyUFOLundell 7 жыл бұрын
The New Wizard of Oz I see. thanks. this sounds like it's only useful if you based everything on C major , staying in C major, adding different Sharps and flats (altering) C major to play keys other than C major. I play guitar so I don't really think in terms of flats and sharps manly scale patterns. I was really hoping for a Hidden Gem you know, kind of what happens when you play a flat 3 and a flat over a major chord. (technically speaking it doesn't work) but that clash is what gives blues that blues feel. the 5th degree is Mixolydian right!? But playing G major scale (Ionian) rather than G(Mixolydian) the natural 7 of G introduces a F#. This makes C major C Lydian! Now we're in the Key of G. ?! lol
@notrningwheels
@notrningwheels 7 жыл бұрын
Anthony Lundell There are no "hidden gems" in classical music theory. The circle of fifths, at best, will help you remember several things more easily. To find hidden gems, you have to actually listen closely to experimental music. Coltrane and Miles Davis are way ahead of the circle of fifths while still being easy to digest. Once you understand a lot of what they did, check out experimental Hip Hop to learn about minimalism timbral progressions and mixing. electronicexplorations.org has a lot of good experimental mixes, but requires more time commitment. There are no shortcuts
@AnthonyUFOLundell
@AnthonyUFOLundell 7 жыл бұрын
Cool. I'll check it out
@jetblack7044
@jetblack7044 7 жыл бұрын
one of the best video on circle of fifths
@markE946
@markE946 3 жыл бұрын
A good video, the general rule for modulation is, the Tonic, the Sub Dom, Dom, relative minor and parallel minor, Using the key of C as an example, C F G Am & Cm are all fine to modulate to
@Amatteus
@Amatteus 3 жыл бұрын
Very well explained, thank you... In the end, I would have played the piano and showed how the circle of fifths is a map where you can follow thousands of paths to help with well-tuned music. You probably missed showing how to really used it to improvise with any instrument.
@Vortex5Australia
@Vortex5Australia 6 жыл бұрын
I never understood it until I watched this, finally I now get the circle of fifths and how to make use of it.. Thank you so much, very well presented.
@WilliamSlaght
@WilliamSlaght 8 жыл бұрын
All the 12 tones are all connected. Every pattern or sequence are all connected. Circle of fifths is connected to the chromatic scales, of which is based off of the two whole tone scales based off of an augmented, etc. Everything is connected.
@avatacron60
@avatacron60 8 жыл бұрын
Indeed.
@notrningwheels
@notrningwheels 7 жыл бұрын
That's what Pythagorus brought back from Africa and told people he invented. However, it's been well demonstrated that people can learn to hear at least 24 distinct tones (ie quarter tones). Using electronics, people have demonstrated an ability to recognize many more.
@WilliamSlaght
@WilliamSlaght 7 жыл бұрын
I understand what you mean, but I'm mostly focusing on the 12 tones of western tonal music. Even if 24, everything would be still connected immensely.
@alfonshomac
@alfonshomac 7 жыл бұрын
It's the circle of life, you know?... and it moves us all.
@xvenomx9790
@xvenomx9790 5 жыл бұрын
Truth!
@rochmel1409
@rochmel1409 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks. I'm sure I sort of knew most of it but nice to see it all in one place and so well explained.
@mason3845
@mason3845 8 жыл бұрын
One little thing I found with the circle of fifths/fourths is that the notes on opposite ends of the circle create a tritone.
@nicodean6752
@nicodean6752 6 жыл бұрын
This channel is awesome! You guys rock! Thanks a bunch
@danielvonbose557
@danielvonbose557 4 жыл бұрын
Find a pattern to fit any chord or arbitrary set of notes on the circle and you can rotate this pattern by any amount. This does all chord changes, notes in the scale, or any other pattern.
@hudu
@hudu 6 жыл бұрын
This is an incredible lesson. I've only used the circle of 5ths to figure out what key I was noodling in before, but this has completely opened my mind. Thank you so much.
@lawrencetaylor4101
@lawrencetaylor4101 2 жыл бұрын
Merci beaucoup for this. I like you approach to explaining this. Bravo.
@brandonyee7918
@brandonyee7918 4 жыл бұрын
this dude was my music production professor during freshman year of college. cool dude
@rammynagpal8976
@rammynagpal8976 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a very clear and comprehensive explanation.
@PyramindSF
@PyramindSF 5 жыл бұрын
any time!
@spudxmusic4937
@spudxmusic4937 2 жыл бұрын
best explaination ever
@dronehomeless
@dronehomeless 7 жыл бұрын
This is my favorite presentation of this material. Excellent delivery and pace. Ryan seems like a great instructor. Subscribed.
@julihansen
@julihansen 4 жыл бұрын
keep up the good quality!
@TGC40401
@TGC40401 6 жыл бұрын
How is this not more popular?
@billbradleymusic
@billbradleymusic 5 жыл бұрын
What a great resource! That interactive wheel is amazing. Thanks much bud. I'll check more into your channel.
@manymanybullets
@manymanybullets 7 жыл бұрын
The last part on thirds I think could by improved by just looking at the note of the inner part of the circle from the fifth and then flatting it if its a minor.
@keshavyaduvansh4530
@keshavyaduvansh4530 7 жыл бұрын
yeah
@ethancarter5065
@ethancarter5065 8 жыл бұрын
I love the pyramid videos it's unique what you do Thank yoou
@Generative_Midi_
@Generative_Midi_ 6 жыл бұрын
Pyrami(n)d
@FrodosBeutel
@FrodosBeutel 7 жыл бұрын
To Add: The Key Signature is F C G D A E B.. just from F to B in the Circle and Flats the other direction.. From B to F
@allhisbesttruth5516
@allhisbesttruth5516 3 жыл бұрын
Love your eyeliner! You are just so pretty!
@MarcoPolux
@MarcoPolux 5 жыл бұрын
WOW!!!!!!!!! Thanks for this awesome video!
@Nour01
@Nour01 6 жыл бұрын
Best explanation ever
@andychess
@andychess 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks for some new insights into what I thought was a familiar topic.
@DEEP_PRACTICE
@DEEP_PRACTICE 6 жыл бұрын
Cracking Video, thanks for the great insights.
@PyramindSF
@PyramindSF 6 жыл бұрын
any time!
@nestivus4998
@nestivus4998 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks!
@gurav100
@gurav100 6 жыл бұрын
Wow man this is amazing I know something about it but I never thought it can be so advanced. I mean this is all piano in one video
@glasgowbrian1469
@glasgowbrian1469 7 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know why the clockwise circle is in 5ths and not 4ths? I guess it was because the 5th is regarded as the next dominant note to the tonic. But chord progressions/changes, for example in jazz, nearly always move in 4ths. So, as clockwise is the normal forward direction, I would expect the circle to go forward clockwise in 4ths. I know I could just go 4ths anti-clockwise, but that’s backward to me, not forward. By the way, I like Ryan's explanation of how to use the chart - no quibbles there.
@joanasantos2672
@joanasantos2672 6 жыл бұрын
Very simple and clarifying video, thanks for sharing it ;-)
@jpvSoccer
@jpvSoccer 3 жыл бұрын
well done; thanks a bunch :)
@e-whizz276
@e-whizz276 7 жыл бұрын
This Is Great!
@influxxmedia
@influxxmedia 8 жыл бұрын
Brilliant. So useful
@theboytheycalljonny1
@theboytheycalljonny1 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent - thanks!
@raulnunez751
@raulnunez751 7 жыл бұрын
¡¡¡THANK A LOT!!! Finally I understand.
@NeilDeshpande313
@NeilDeshpande313 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this!
@DavidMorales-tg6qw
@DavidMorales-tg6qw 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you, very helpful
@yunchinleong1
@yunchinleong1 5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic!
@julihansen
@julihansen 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks :)
@dennislacerte8007
@dennislacerte8007 7 жыл бұрын
awesome!!
@OldSchoolVisions
@OldSchoolVisions 7 жыл бұрын
And I thought i knew the circle. Cheers!
@paulkardoulias9547
@paulkardoulias9547 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@trromance
@trromance 5 жыл бұрын
Big big thnx
@PyramindSF
@PyramindSF 5 жыл бұрын
any time!
@philseddon555
@philseddon555 5 жыл бұрын
I can’t find the rand Scullard interactive thing anywhere?Can anyone help?
@ayahdaib8932
@ayahdaib8932 7 жыл бұрын
Brilliant
@AnthonyUFOLundell
@AnthonyUFOLundell 7 жыл бұрын
I understand the theory. but applying this during a song would result in a key change? "non-diatonic" in the terms of parent scales/keys?! Instead of using mixolydian for example over the 5 chord, I would play the "straight major scale(Ionian)" off the 5 degree, starting on the 5th degree of the parent scale. In the Parent scale of Gmajor, I would play D Ionian rather than D mixolydian? Would that be one way to appy this ? Thanks
@frankiesangiovanni691
@frankiesangiovanni691 7 жыл бұрын
Anthony Lundell that's a cool way to see it. Instead of playing in a key you could see every chord existing in its own key.
@JohnDAvery-tf4td
@JohnDAvery-tf4td 6 жыл бұрын
Anthony Lundell - I think you've answered your own question. Since Ionian is the tonic scale of a major key, playing D Ionian rather than D Mixolydian over the V chord in G major would change the key from G major to D major because the C# in D Ionian isn't in the G major scale. On the other hand, the C natural in D Mixolydian keeps the piece in G major. With regard to Franklin's comment about thinking of each chord as being in its own key, that's how I've always thought of them. Chords are built from the tonic of the key they're named for (their root), after all, not from the tonic of the key the piece is in.
@nixda1699
@nixda1699 6 жыл бұрын
Hi, more examples please. Showing just 1 step in 1 direction is nothing for me. :( I dont get it. Is it "Fifths" or "Fourths"... i am lost :D Ty for the vid
@FlyBrent
@FlyBrent 6 жыл бұрын
I tend to use the notes that sound good together, I try and stay away from the other ones.
@Brakfrica
@Brakfrica 8 жыл бұрын
Chords, 4-5-1 👍🏼
@No1414body
@No1414body 4 жыл бұрын
The letter name if the 5ths relative minor is also the third of the scale example c is 1, g is 5, g has a relative minor of e so a c major is ceg that's how I learned it also to get the minor you flat the third so c minor is c eflat g
@ot8037
@ot8037 4 жыл бұрын
13:50 why is B a growth? there is a B on the minor scale in the inner circle too
@TommyOnSax
@TommyOnSax 7 жыл бұрын
Sweet
@rbmoman
@rbmoman 3 жыл бұрын
thks
@Myrslokstok
@Myrslokstok 5 жыл бұрын
Circle of fifth is like the multiplication table of music.
@PyramindSF
@PyramindSF 5 жыл бұрын
muzak maths
@oskarlindberg4869
@oskarlindberg4869 6 жыл бұрын
You missed the chord wheel, my favourite version of the circle of fifths! Great video though
@martinpizarro6620
@martinpizarro6620 3 жыл бұрын
cool!
@andyorozco2746
@andyorozco2746 4 жыл бұрын
So in short the circle of fifths is useless for us that just grab music sheets and play them by looking at the key signatures in the clefs. Also useless if we have no interest in composing, mixing, or playing the chord a different way. Am I missing something? Is interesting how the circle is related in a mathematical way but have no usage to play music sheets. Good video.
@folkmusike951
@folkmusike951 7 жыл бұрын
I feel for those who are about to learn for the first time and land on this video.
@tensenpark
@tensenpark 6 жыл бұрын
That minor third triad at 22:01 sounded so awkward haha
@guillotinedeath
@guillotinedeath 8 жыл бұрын
why the hell do the camera angles keep switching when he talks A.D.D.
@nj20baller
@nj20baller 7 жыл бұрын
you got that up down thing backwards. you finally said up fifths later on minor.
@gardnerfiddle2927
@gardnerfiddle2927 4 жыл бұрын
Is it just me, or does the temperament of your piano not sound like it's equal temperament? It almost sounds Pythagorean.
@chaimbrownbasketball4730
@chaimbrownbasketball4730 3 жыл бұрын
it seems like nobody can give an easy explanation to this picture
@sharonmills1013
@sharonmills1013 4 жыл бұрын
Found the switching back and forth among screen shot of the circle of fifths to long shot of you to closeup of you very dizzying. Couldn’t watch past the first few minutes. Would have liked to have the circle in the screen the full time, with maybe a split screen of the keyboard.
@diegomerino9939
@diegomerino9939 Жыл бұрын
And here how to make your own multipurpose circle of fifths 🙂: kzbin.info/www/bejne/h2bGopV_l7J1j5Y
@nj20baller
@nj20baller 7 жыл бұрын
it goes beyond i like the interactive
@nj20baller
@nj20baller 7 жыл бұрын
this is insanely confusing. wouldnt it be up fifths down fourths, that is sooooo confusing.
@ot8037
@ot8037 4 жыл бұрын
still dont understand why its called moving up by fifths if it can also be called down by fourths is it four or five dont get it. 0+5=5 0-4=-4 +-4 doesnt equal +-5
@PyramindSF
@PyramindSF 4 жыл бұрын
its hard to conceptualize as its not really math, its based on "scale degrees". For example, C Major, the 5th scale degree up the C major scale is G.
@PyramindSF
@PyramindSF 4 жыл бұрын
But if you go down 4 scale degrees in C Major you also end up at G. Does that help?
@avatacron60
@avatacron60 8 жыл бұрын
The title of the video is sort of misleading. How to actually use the Circle of Fifths is better shown on the piano, on a real musical situation. This shows rather how to understand the Circle, not exactly how to use it on a real musical situation but it's very useful anyway. The Interactive Circle of Fifths was indeed a really cool stuff.
@jjjuhg
@jjjuhg 6 жыл бұрын
6 - th way to use it : to win the lottery . ...just think about it :)
@pndy2136
@pndy2136 3 жыл бұрын
4:29 Yaa🌨 the are not together anymore
@jcjensenllc
@jcjensenllc 4 жыл бұрын
You failed at explaining triads and introduced diminished also without explaining that
@johnnycaper_
@johnnycaper_ 5 жыл бұрын
to be honest, I don't understand shit, but I kinda get it idk, all those words make no sense, yet sounds make sense, you know what I mean? xD
@darrenhill9931
@darrenhill9931 7 жыл бұрын
it all started off fine buddy until the camera kept moving to and from your mush, which as it happens ruins my train of concentration/thought. re-edit the video focusing on the graph/diagram and i may just get past 5 minutes.. respectfully speaking of-course.. :)
@relicofgold
@relicofgold 5 жыл бұрын
It's the CIRCLE OF SEVENTHS because there are 7 steps from one part of it to the other.
@markbrown7103
@markbrown7103 2 жыл бұрын
I’m so sick of hearing a circle of fifth I’m a guitar player been one for 47 years I can still play a guitar but I don’t know nothing about the circle of fifths so I don’t see why it’s so important I can read notes music Fingerstyle guitar music play songs not to be bragging but sound pretty damn good so what so important about this circle of fifths thing 👎👎🙁🙁😖😖🎸🎸
@alecwoodruffmusic
@alecwoodruffmusic 6 жыл бұрын
PSA: This guy said "shart" at 5:20 That is all
@nj20baller
@nj20baller 7 жыл бұрын
buncha patterns i see
@RTBurruss
@RTBurruss 8 жыл бұрын
I'm sure this is a great video, but I had to stop watching because the harmonics in the MIDI keyboard sound you were using were throwing me off in a big way. Would be awesome if you could find a piano sound that doesn't have so many impure overtones to muddle the fundamentals you're trying to demonstrate. For instance, the C Major scale you played barely sounded like C, and G was even worse, despite using the right trigger notes on the keyboard.
@griffgriffiths9982
@griffgriffiths9982 7 жыл бұрын
so glad I am not the only one who thought that. I thought there may be something wrong with my ears. However, really useful information, thank you.
@carlotapuig
@carlotapuig 5 жыл бұрын
The title of the vid is misleading. It says "5 ways to use the circle of fifths". It says nothing about "long explanation in detail of what the circle of fifths is for absolute beginners". Thank you for wasting my time. You got a big thumb down from me. Change the tilte so intermediate and advanced students don't waste their time like me with long explanations for beginners
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