$50,000 Supreme Pinball Machine & the State of Pinball -

[@PatTheNESpunk]

What do you think about Supreme? The current state of pinball? ✅More info @t.co/OZ1M2dB1fG

[@fact-factcheck4680]

Hype beast. Nothing of any real value for the amount anyone would spend.

[@PutYourQuarterUpGaming]

You’ve got your pinball to work, I’ll take my car, and when your out of loans, I’m still...not having dropped $50,000 on a pinball machine xD

[@turbouno969]

it's just like nes collecting....but on steroids.

[@ifonlyeee]

The only Supreme i want is a burrito supreme

[@Wanginmyzipper]

If was was bought online it cost around 1100 delivered and set up with guys in gloves

[@Adam-hp2xg]

How sad is your life if your self-worth is defined by what company makes your t-shirts?

[@hanedorm]

Adam S bingo.

[@coffee115]

lol what

[@sireture]

@ydt630 exactly.

[@BrokenOpus]

Lookin’ like a Colgate toothpaste logo.

[@Z64sports]

@Tomas Smith I'd rather have one of those than a real one

[@nihilistparadise335]

Never thought I would hear Pat and Ian of all people talk about Supreme 😂

[@turbografx7]

About 3 years ago I bought my first machine. After collecting retro video games for 20 years I decided to jump over to pinball. I sold most of my collection and I now have 7 machines. As far as the hobby is concerned, you are forgetting one huge thing regarding younger people. They're may not be many arcades for them, but there are a monstrous swell if leagues popping up everywhere. There are so many more young people playing pinball than you realize.

[@redavatar]

It's funny because my nephew and a lot of teenagers I know, love pinball machines in a digital form - when we went to a place that had a physical one, they played for ages on it.

[@DrewberTravels]

17:22 They can't do it because you literally need an inhouse person that can work on the machines when they break down. You have to have access to a cheap supply of parts too. That is very hard to come by.

[@MotoMechzorz]

I hit the Seattle Pinball museum recently and it was packed that whole day, good time. Id love to get a Pinball machine but im too broke by far. That new Aliens machine is way up on my list.

[@michaels4917]

That is a very boring looking pinball table.

[@Hotshotter3000]

I played dozens of pinball machines and I have every single pinball table on Pinball Arcade... yeah, I wouldn't pay 50K for this piece of shit, and I agree that it is intensely boring. It's like they contacted Stern and said 'make the simplest possible machine that would fit in the Electromechanical era and just slap our logo everywhere'. Stern has made some insanely creative machines in the past and this must have bored the engineers and designers to tears to make.

[@DrewberTravels]

11:18 Yes, you need money to play pinball. Not only do you have to buy the machine but you have to be willing to pay to get that machine fixed. There is a giant steel ball flying around in there... Stuff breaks and you have to get it fixed.

[@OrfinMusik]

Pisses me off to see 5 empty seats in the front row of a sold out show because they were charging 2000$ a ticket

[@dann6065]

I love pinball, my brother, my dad, and muse got our old TMNT pinball machine back in great working order, springs, a lot of lights, bands and we play a lot again! Love to see pinball make a big comeback- supreme could certainly help!

[@bulletpoint728]

I own 3 pinball machines which I think is perfect for a collection. Back to the Future, Street Fighter 2 and Baby Pacman. It's necessary to know a guy who can help with maintenance and repair that won't charge an arm and a leg as well.

[@ValensBellator]

I had never even heard of this brand before... this seems pretty damn insane lol

[@Smashbro2013]

Thankfully, in my area, there's a bowling alley with around 20 pinball machines that does $10 infinite pinball every Friday. It's definitely helped me get into pinball since it doesn't matter if I lose in 60 seconds.

[@squidracerX]

I was about to say *this is the first podcast clip Ive ever seen where you guys didn't seem like you hate each other* -- then the very end "you're eating on microphone...". THERE IT IS! ha-ha

[@skippychurch2965]

Props to Ian's pinball knowledge! I collect pinball machines along side playing games, and I was getting ready for these guys to know nothing about pins. I'm impressed to see that wasn't the case!

[@deralfenderson]

I feel very fortunate to live near a "Pinball Museum" that exists in Roanoke, VA. They have a good 50 machines or so (from old to new) that you can play for a flat fee, or with a membership. Every time I go, there's always a few kids in there, which makes me happy.

[@deralfenderson]

Well, if you'd actually listened to the whole conversation that Pat and Ian had here, you'd note that one thing that's a concern in the pinball world is that not enough young people are being exposed to the coolness and fun of pinball machines. If no new blood comes into that world, it will effectively die off. So, I was just noting that the pinball museum I go to from time to time has kids coming with parents, so it's hopeful. In fact, that museum does programs with local schools to try and demonstrate the science/physics involved in these machines to show how genuinely cool and fun these things are. So yeah... no weirdness. I'm not a pedophile, ffs. I'm helping raise an 8 year old that we take to the pinball museum too.

[@thomasmickle7289]

Pinball collectors loved the circus around this machine. It's not very often something comes along more ridiculous than what we spend on machines. Money and time.

[@theroguecybersoldier2629]

There's a supreme pinball you can play in Manhattan, New York. I think it's called Sunshine Laundromat and Pinball

[@djargus]

I recommend Sunshine Laundromat, artsandrules, Max Fish don't have employees who can fix the machine. Once the Supreme at Max Fish breaks, it may be a while before it can be repaired.

[@SuperBuu85]

The Game Galaxy arcade/used game store here in Tennessee has over 100 + pinball and arcade machines available for play for only $5 for 30 mins, $7 for an hour and $10 for all day play, they have two locations one in Goodlettsville and one in Smyrna, so if y'all ever find yourselves in the middle TN area you know where to go to play some pinball. Of course I don't really know of any reason for y'all to come visit TN though.. There aren't any gaming conventions around here that I know of..

[@ParallelUniversity]

They are geniuses at branding. It's just a way to show off superfluous spending. It is peacocking, essentially, and it does serve a social purpose. It's the same reason women like guys who buy them flowers that will die in a week, rather than buying them a more practical gift. Being practical is not sexy.

[@fact-factcheck4680]

Ian ranch dressing story Pt3 when Also Ian if you ever want me to stop and you specifically say so I will. However, I'm continuing with this fun inside gag/request until Pt3 happens :)

[@Adam-hp2xg]

He commented on the part 2 video that he regrets telling part 2, so I assume he doesn't really feel comfortable doing a part 3. Could have changed his mind tho, idk. Honestly tho the guy he's talking about in the story is clearly not all there mentally, or at the very least is supremely awkward and socially inept, and so I can understand why he wouldn't want to continue to basically make fun of the poor guy for some cringey shit he did years ago. Just my 2 cents.

[@TBustah]

If that's the case, fine, but he should tell us so. Otherwise...Ian ranch dressing story part three when?

[@kingkold]

Are you the guy from the Ranch dressing story ?

[@fact-factcheck4680]

kingkold No lol just curious as to part 3 and I don't think that the guy from the story would be asking for it to be retold

[@chopsmccartney6786]

If it does become too much, I'll stop as well. I'll make in into a full blown graphic novel instead.

[@wilsif]

An aspect of the transition of gaming from arcade to home console could be because I felt bad asking my parents for money to play an arcade game and felt bad as a poor kid when a quarter lasted 3 to 5 minutes as a 6-9 year old in the eighties. Pinball was the same, but as an adult I want to own a pinball machine with the understanding that there are actual GOALS to achieve other than not letting the ball fall.

[@KeithPhillips]

I really loved the Metallica pinball machine when I stumbled across one. That was a table where you could play at least 10-15 minutes (as a novice) somewhat easily and it had a pretty forgiving extra ball feature. Loved it! "I'M F*CKING HUNGRY. HUNGRY FOR YOUR BALLS!"

[@radracer8889]

Supreme is a children’s brand. No self respecting adult over the age of 25 should be seen anywhere near that bs.

[@radracer8889]

tundra Will the cool kids in the cafeteria finally let you sit with them After you buy your “on fleek” supreme shirt? Don’t worry about supremeless losers with nothing better to do like me.

[@radracer8889]

How are they in any way the same? Supreme is a vapid status symbol, games are experiences. Retro gaming is not considered “cool” by the main stream. Having a shelf full of NES games is seen as “40 year old virgin” behavior, it’s the polar opposite of supreme.

[@tsian7328]

Tyler shit man hook me up with a link or something

[@tvcasualty1276]

The adults such as myself enjoy collecting those outdated games ment for kids, because i was a kid when those games were current. Nothing wrong with that, but as a 39year old man, i have zero interest in current trends like "supreme" which is marketed for today's youth intrested in trendy overpriced marketing gimmicks that would be very tacky and make me a broke poser.

[@natgrant1364]

Yeah, I'm 46 and this is the first time I've ever even heard of Supreme. There are plenty of things that I just don't know about simply because of being out of the loop.

[@MightySquirrel]

Tron Legacy came out as $4500. $1500 more for a more open playfield and an lcd screen is a joke. And everyone is hiking up the prices, because stern has as well. I saw $2000 em’s listed and $3500 80s machines that aren’t funhouse. I’m waiting 15 years or so when the Pinball craze is over, and scoop up a few tables at prices that they once were.

[@windoak2113]

MightySquirrel yeah,ill wait until i can get a job then ill get one

[@dylanswanson5879]

Not gonna happen, pinball scene is the one thing that won't die. Prices have been consistent since the machines came out. The prices you're coming up with are just inflated ebay prices, nobody is paying that. I've been watching market trends with arcade+pinball for a very long time now. I've been in the hobby for a good amount of time.

[@MightySquirrel]

No, that’s the normal prices here in Pittsburgh. Craigslist, Facebook, the works.

[@dylanswanson5879]

MightySquirrel they are actually getting that? Like people are paying it at auctions and stuff? Damn. I'm in the Midwest and prices are fair here.

[@MightySquirrel]

Yes, as far as I know of. In a radius of an hour travel's time from downtown, there are at least 4 super collectors, and ReplayFX.

[@benjaminyoung9694]

It actually looks pretty slick. Brand names aren't a bad idea for pinball table themes. I'd play a converse shoe brand table or a Hudson bay company table.

[@PinBallReviewerRepairs]

I wish I was closer to you guys. But that is fixed as I do twitch stream when I repair my pinball machines. And yeah I know this is 4 year old. ;) My streams of pinball are literally get the machine and any time I do work on said pinball machine I will stream it just to show that pinball machines do take awhile to get back to working depending on what needs to be done. Most of my repairs and cleaning of a machine easily are about 60 hours it takes to look over a machine get it cleaned up and repair anything that needs to be repaired. A lot of car people like pinball machines as it is similar to a car both have a lot of mechanical parts and both can be spendy. It is pretty much a passion for pinball enthusiasts to have them in there home. And yes I have a lot of pinball machines in my collection and I am looking to buy a Police Force pinball machine and I almost have enough for it too. The other reason I do the streams is to let the younger kids know that it is more then just flipping the flippers. The newer pinball machines do have game modes where you literally are playing a game on the DMD display and or screen. Some times you are playing a pinball game mode inside of a pinball machine. xD And yep Portland, OR has a lot of pinball enthusiasts in it myself included in that group. It pretty much started as a child going to Games People Play and was like what is this thing I played it and was hooked and pretty much would play pinball the whole time as I was like I do not have this thing at home and I can play video games at home. And my kid self was like I will never be able to have any pinball machines in my house. 20 some years later I have not just 1 but like 8 now in my collection. xD

[@TotallyRadical]

Believe it or not My father in law owns that original BayWatch pin and it's in GREAT shape and working order. I was shocked the first time I went over to his house and saw it.

[@planetbrooklynsupreme]

They have the pinball machine available to the public over at Max Fish in LES

[@NavyBluesandShoes]

Supreme trash bags: $500 ea Supreme trash for the Supreme trash bags: $250/oz

[@jeffk3801]

Ian! Have you been to the Museum of Pinball in Banning, CA? Its less than two hours from SD and it's pinhead bliss

[@quayzar1]

I'm in a league in Charlottesville and we are going to have a big place with a flat $10 for entry fee, Paul's Pinball Palace. There was an older one but it had to move for redevelopment of the building but the new place is bigger so that'll be fine in the end.

[@urdad1984]

Kendall Tawes interesting, ill have to check that out. Im 20mins outside of cville

[@scottthatcher9086]

Back in 2000 I could pick up a pinball machine for 100.00 to 300.00 and at time was just given them as they took up too much space.

[@InazumaDash]

How weird I was just playing Stern pinball on the Xbox today at work. Had to test the console after repair and had to download a random game.

[@johnsouthern6089]

The home edition and a regular Stern pinball are different sizes. The DMD is also different so if someone wanted to re-skin a Spiderman, it wouldn't work.

[@randymch]

Pat Contri was amazing in his role playing Daniel Wakeford in the UK series "Undateables"

[@mariobeans]

I just bought my first pinball machine. An almost brand new The Simpsons pinball party, its amazing. I've been looking into getting a brand new Jurassic Park 2019 or Deadpool 2018, but Sterns newer machines are now built very different on a SPIKE system which seems to only benefit STERN by cutting production costs. I don't like this new direction stern is taking with production and it's pretty lame that this supreme machine is just a rehash of spiderman home

[@tripdefect87]

It's always amazing to me how people think they can make insular micro economies for customers that probably won't be there five/ten years from now. It's what happened to comics and it's happening to video games as we speak. I still gag at the thought of the old Team Fortress 2 Economy because I was stupid enough to be a part of it in my early 20's

[@dann6065]

They’re not lying, if anyone likes shoes and you see a big beard like Jordan collab with Supreme a regular shoe that would retail 190.00 goes up to 600.00. Not every single one is that big of a jump but it’s crazy. I’m personally no a big fan but every other person seems to be haha

[@TheNuclearPinball]

I guess my problem with the newer Stern's is it can be confusing to tell what is going on and all the rules. Star Wars and Gardians of the Galaxy have so may modes you make think you are doing well until you take a look at your score. It seems that they are "virtualizing" the game to save money on parts and toys.

[@JoelGloade]

The free play pinball room at magfest for instance seems to be one of the chances to pass pinball culture to the younger generation but magfest is a big fun event with tons of stuff to do we wonder what stands out in your mind after the week is over and you had the time of your life.

[@GamingHistorySource]

A sucker born every minute... a swoller born every 5.

[@Jerred_with_2Es_and_2Rs]

Curious to see what people are paying for these on Ebay, I checked the sold listings myself. I was blown away to see a ton of listings selling the "confirmation email" literally. You read the description and it says, I will print/email you the confirmation email only (which is what you are purchasing). These listings were sold anywhere between $1000 and $14000. I am not sure how many are just being duped into thinking they are actually buying the machine, or if they are shills trolling the auction (which is what I hope) but its crazy...

[@fact-factcheck4680]

Also why would you want a white T-shirt with a generic logo on it for $85

[@gabriel20027]

retail is 40 plus 10 dollar for shipping, kids buy it cause their favorite celebrity wears it and the exclusivity that you can't find it no where besides re sellers or supreme retail stores. Plus you can make money back, supreme does not reproduce items once is gone is gone, i bought a hoodie from them for 190 with the supreme box logo or as we call it bogo and sold it a year later for 600, people make a living off supreme and limited sneakers cause demand is higher than retro video games

[@fact-factcheck4680]

Gabriel Dominguez The premise is nauseating for the buyer who actually wants it however for a reseller like you it's actually pretty smart and good luck to you in the future man

[@gabriel20027]

thanks but i sell for extra cash haven't bought anything these last two seasons, i feel bad for people who actually waits in line and wants to wear it but if people buying it 4x over the price of retail might as well take advantage of it

[@wuldntuliktonoptb6861]

You can get one made online for like 16 bucks feom a tee shirt printing company lol

[@verbage432]

So, spending hundreds on collectible toys and art is perfectly acceptable but once it's fashion (which is also a form of art) it's now crazy. *OK*

[@IamChunkyJ]

you guys would love this arcade near here tons of pinball newer and classics pay by the hour not by the game and tons of classic arcade games too reminds me i need to go there again soon

[@kenwheeler3637]

I have never heard of Supreme and from your description of it I'm content with lack of knowledge. Owning Pinball tables has never been poor mans hobby but the current prices have gotten quite obscene from the sounds of it. On a positive note, there are two very nice Pinball museum/Arcades in the area here in NC. One in downtown Asheville and the other in Hendersonville.

[@rutzou]

The font is actually futura. Also, people have been flipping supreme forever. I agree eventually it might crash, but I don't foresee it happening anytime soon

[@TotallyRadical]

It's crazy because it's apparent that the only reason why most people bought this was because it is SUPREME branded because, as Ian and Pat didn't mention, this brand is for a much YOUNGER audience, most of whom couldn't give two shits about Pinball otherwise. 🤣🤣🤣

[@evilash570]

Not necessarily everyone has to be rich to afford pinball games, you can find them under 500$ occasionally, but be prepared to get your hands dirty learning to repair them.

[@jcchaconjr]

No worries Ian, this will probably be available for FarSight’s The Pinball Arcade in about a year or so.

[@craigmanning2439]

Most pinball collectors basically rent machines. They buy them, play them and after they sick of them sell them and get another one. Plenty of buying and selling in the D/FW area. Sometimes you get lucky and sell a machine for more then you paid for it but most of the time on new machines you will take a small hit but not much. I have 20K worth of machines and mostly paid for them by buying and fixing old machines. It is an expensive hobby but not as much as it would seem at first glance.

[@daganmoriarty1973]

Pat, "Castle Contri" NEEDS a patio made of Supreme bricks. Come on, at LEAST a walk way! ; )

[@burnoutjunkie42]

Spiderman Home Release huh? Interesting, I'm glad I got to listen to what you guys had to say.

[@mikechill1880]

Fun fact the original supreme skate team was in the film kids by Larry Clark 1993

[@Warbob11]

Supreme Toilet Paper, wiping your rear for $3,000 per roll, I will say that Pinball machine looks nice.

[@creativeusername7951]

Pinballz here in Austin has at least a couple rows of pinball machines!

[@BeerdyBruceLeeCentral]

One of my closest friends has one of the biggest pinball collections on the planet, I can confirm that pinball collectors spend INSANE amounts of money to get rare pinball machines, sometimes not even rare ones go for stupid amounts. Last time i spoke to him about his machines he said he's lost count of how many he has, I said take a guess, he said 2000, then he corrected me and said probably a bit more. JESUS. I didn't know that many pinnball machines existed. I know he's not lying because he's loaded and he owns several giant storage houses with pinball machines stored there, iv'e seen them myself. He's considering opening an arcade or something like that, even a pinball themed pub.

[@MelRetro]

Supreme. The next Fubu, No Fear and No Limit

[@planetbrooklynsupreme]

The brick was $28-$32 retail.

[@tvcasualty1276]

Ill wait for the next recession to buy pinball machines....todays prices are OUTRAGEOUS!

[@Schmotzky]

Urban Necessities in Las Vegas, a streetwear store, has one you can play.

[@andywolan]

Supreme: we take cheap t-shirts, put our name on it and charge $500 a piece.

[@JonDGAF]

I can respect the hustle....but a re-skin, LMAO....WOW.

[@BoDoesStuff]

Stern has re-skinned a few machines in the past. it's something they tend to do on occasion.

[@SufferDYT]

It's possibly just a result of supreme not wanting to fund R&D for a new machine and stern offering to just reskin an old machine.

[@JimmysALilGirl]

It must not be that popular because I never heard of it before I watched this video...

[@gabriel20027]

you must not be into fashion or into instagram fashion, hype been there with collabs from jordan/nike and louis vuitton. Kids are on crack when the fall/winter season opens in less than 2 weeks. Your on youtube put supreme and bunch of reviewers and sellers, I got in for the money to hustle dumbass kids who spent 250 on a blank cotton shirt with supreme written on it

[@Chronologo]

I kept seeing that logo and it bothered me not knowing what it was. I could've googled it but I forgot lol.

[@beauleidig8670]

A $1 per play?! Is there nothing that isn't ridiculously over priced in Cal? I haven't seen a machine priced higher than .50 cents in years.

[@johnreynolds196]

Musical chairs ... The music always stops.

[@alexiswritingvideos]

Same reason I don’t day trade.

[@TheRosswise]

And people wonder why they are broke.

[@philipottey7723]

and dumb...

[@SmokeBreakWithHuck]

Future DLC for Pinball Arcade perhaps?

[@linkmaster6486]

"People who want status symbols" - Just like those people on Nintendoage?

[@ICHDX23]

I remember Supreme when it synonymous with Tyler The Creator, The Top With The Box Logo.

[@retrogamerfan123]

Seem like Nintendo is on the ban wave for rom sites they just took down emuparadise as well as love roms and love retro

[@SamuliTuomola_stt]

9:45 if I was a money-obsessed exec behind this brand I'd buy back one or two machines as soon as they hit ebay at the marked up price. just to drive up the mania.. that's likely what's going on behind the scenes with many of these useless brands, opportunistic guerrilla marketing.

[@alexiswritingvideos]

Now you’re thinking.

[@pizzamon795]

Ian ranch dressing Story Part 3 when

[@gamerguy425]

Supreme is like everything wrong with consumerism in a nut shell.

[@RobertTheHaunter]

I NEED IT TO GO WITH MY SUPREME SOCKS!!!!

[@TheCreepypro]

well this explains why I can't find a pinball machine at a reasonable price

[@Enigma2K99]

... I'm gonna go buy me a pair of Jordans.

[@CentiZen]

I think Jeffree Star is probably the only person in the world in the target market for this

[@goat0451]

I recently got into pinball after a trip to Santa Cruz, sucks cause I really wanted to buy at least 1 for for my house. And I'm 20

[@memyopinionsche6610]

The Supreme pinball machine Is ugly and generic as well.. Yeah i am a pinball fan. And will not waste my money on it..

[@ProjectSh4dow]

Supreme is overrated. Only idiots with lotsa money to burn buy that crap. Great topic Pat and Ian.

[@JRandy0100]

The collectable pinball will last , the rest Good Will or Dump

[@Chicomite]

Supreme couldn't afford to pay Stern to find someone to just design a quick, simple, table with a nice, rewarding playfield? Even a bad original is better than a copy of a pinball game.

[@3rdaxis649]

Never heard of Supreme.

[@MasterZebulin]

What was the pinball with the little toy car in it?

[@ronindebeatrice]

Intermittent fasting Pat is not eating.

[@namebrandmason]

As someone who is interested in clothing (and by extension hears a bit about streetwear), I am confident that the powers that be at Supreme are having a laugh at their customers expense. At worst it may be some sort of pop-art/culture jam hoax.

[@johnsouthern6089]

JJP's new Pirate of the Caribbean is $12,000

[@aice5238]

Am I the only one who thinks of toothpaste whenever they see Supreme?

[@joelsz5326]

I believe they only have 3 retail stores the original one in NYC n one in LA n one in Tokyo n shit so expensive cause I think they only come out with few new tshirts n other clothes like 2x year n there smart cause keep supply so low n people resell for crazy stupid amounts I have one t-shirt got as gift w Kermit frog on it w him holding a tech9 luv it but otherwise it's hipster crap like a brick for like 3000 people resell

[@OrfinMusik]

They do that not crap on concert tickets and I hate it

[@thevintagefiend7828]

It sold out instantly too

[@Gambles_Cards]

Been offered £55,000 for mine.

[@30Jago]

If there was a pat the pinball punk or angry pinball nerd the market will keep going for years lol. To get the younger generations involved they need to make a fortnite or mine craft pinball machine.

[@klappstuhl4370]

As much hate as Konami get for their Pachinko machines, I'd play an MGS and Silent Hill pinball any day.

[@JBBrickman]

I've tried to like them but I've just never seen the appeal in Pinball machines, from a its fun to play standpoint, i mean they look really cool though, if i was rich I'd put a few in the living room for guests.

[@planetbrooklynsupreme]

It's Futura font

[@Kate-E42]

What did that cute little mushroom do to you, Pat?