$50 Big Red | Chandra's Incinerator🔥Brash Taunter🔥Combo | MTG Standard | Budget Magic

[@cloysterd]

Kind of incredible that Eldraine cards are *still* dominating the format after six bans.

[@MrRancid1988]

WotC need to tone down the power level. Shouldn't need to have 6 bans to begin with lol.

[@Atmapalazzo]

I'd say that's an overstatement.

[@cloysterd]

@@Atmapalazzo Really? Check out Goldfish's Standard page. The two most popular decks are built around Eldraine cards, and if you combine those with the UB decks that don't work without Drown in the Loch you're over two thirds of the metagame.

[@Atmapalazzo]

@@cloysterd okay? I'm seeing a deck that relies heavily on eldraine, a deck that relies multiple sets, a deck that relies on theros, and a deck that relies on multiple sets.

[@oliverwilson11]

@@MrRancid1988 They did reduce the power level, that's why the best cards in Standard are Eldraine cards

[@TheDylls]

I totally respect the Great Henge player: "Math is for blockers" lmao

[@petrsevcik5044]

They just should have tapped both taunters.

[@HawaiianJuicebox]

@@petrsevcik5044 They only had the mana to tap 1

[@petrsevcik5044]

@@HawaiianJuicebox ​ @Hawaiian Juicebox There was no reason to play the angels. Not play angels, tap both taunters, attack, leaves Seth at 2. Seth fights in response putting them to 13 (15 with Henge). That makes their attack next turn lethal with or without tapping, unless Seth draws a 3 damage butn spell. Not assured victory, but not dead. And that's not considering anything they could have in hand.

[@cc_rex5017]

Maybe it was Jimmy Wong

[@MarkAvo]

It was getting close from the other side of the table so I can see just going for it there. Super entertaining game.

[@jacemindsculptor612]

@49:23. I thought you would eruption the wurm. Swing giant: opponent takes 10. Still goes to 7 but u keep giant & Torbran on board. Then on his gyruda turn he has to handle both threats.

[@brunolevaggitapia4573]

thank you!!!! was thinking the same

[@MTGGoldfish]

Ugh, I think you're right, that looks like a !punt

[@jonathanmackinnon2452]

Ah yes, Phoenix of A$$, my favorite red card in standard

[@la.zanmal.]

Brass Taunter. City of Brash.

[@henrycampopiano5425]

i was going to make this exact comment

[@siddharthajesus]

my playgroup has nicknames like that for a lot of cards, and we actually do usually call it that coincidentally

[@TheDoubleA12]

"Opponent, down to 27- they're at 27!?" I lost it at that part

[@adammoldover8769]

And right at the 27th minute of the video by coincidence 😂

[@thecapuzzi2045]

“Erupt on the ooze” ~Seth 2020

[@lardwadd1765]

heh

[@Beefman.0]

Hey seth! I’ve been thinking about it for a while, and I think you should check out some sort of Fluctuator combo deck in legacy for a budget magic list! I always thought that the only budget legacy deck being burn was sad, but now Fluctuator is not only pretty budget, but its better than ever since Ikoria gave it a bunch of new cyclers. I dunno, I thought It’d be really cool

[@Kettwiesel25]

Comment deserves more likes for sure..

[@ScatterBrainedYouBetterFollow]

Arena's stops really are the most random thing. You arent clicking on the stop to have a 100% of placing the stop, more like an 80% chance.

[@sheepy403]

To be fair, the stop Seth tried to put around 11:25 was just completely wrong. During the attackers step, he set a stop at his opponent's first main phase, then complained when Arena didn't give him priority at the end of combat step. I will give him that the interface for mid-combat stops is pretty unintuitive since it's completely detached from the rest of the stop interface

[@smameann]

At 49:20 you attack into the Massacre Wurm and trade with your giant. Why not burn the Wurm out with your burn spell? Thorbran makes it 5 damage. Opponent would end up on the same life but you’d still have a giant.

[@DakotaAbroad]

I've been wanting to build big read around Brash Taunter but I haven't had a lot of time lately to play. I'll just steal this, thank yooooou.

[@MTGGoldfish]

Have fun!

[@GalaticCyrus]

i think this deck fits heraldic banner perfectly. it ramps us on turn 3 to our 4 drops, and let us cast 4 drop + burn on turn 5. pumping +1/0 can also be relevant to giant and torbran, but im not sure what to cut for it

[@30qwerty1]

I'm playing a similar blue red burn deck centered around valakut exploration which works great with torbran, I've had a terrible time against green and henge but brash taunter seems amazing to side or even main so thanks for the video and ideas!

[@Geroaergaroe]

The editing is a bit too aggressive by moment, we miss from key frame.

[@Tarrandus]

36:52 If you are running out Bonescrusher, why not stomp face first? You have 8 points of burn in hand, you if you are about to scoop, you can at least take them to 3 and hope to mize the Roil Eruption.

[@notdylan561]

This deck has been performing very well for me when I bring it out at FNM or even at the kitchen table. Would you recommend swapping to frost bite over shock even though you can't hit face with it? Any strixhaven additions?

[@hydra66]

depends how you define cheap. In arena terms, its 20 rares and 3 mythics for the main board alone

[@WilliamWhitehead2014]

Playing this deck now in standard one off on mtga and loving it! have not lost a game yet, (4-0). Such a new concept opponents are not ready for the brash taunters.

[@WilliamWhitehead2014]

Gigantosaour fights Brash Taunter - Opponent not happy!

[@Kettwiesel25]

@@WilliamWhitehead2014 Big red, big red: Opponent big ded ;)

[@Sosroseno]

58:25 That sequence is absolutely bonkers. So friggin' sweet.

[@MTGGoldfish]

That was my favorite part of the whole thing!

[@FIREWARRIOR46]

this deck is so fun, could do with a four of shatterskull summit though, and soul guide lantern in the board

[@turtle3611]

I love tectonic giant! I played it in a gruul auras deck with a storm herald finisher.

[@jackpabich763]

Seth complaining about The Great Henge but not bringing in shredded sails...

[@Atmapalazzo]

On top of not bringing in Soul Sear when the opponent had lovestruck beast.

[@jackpabich763]

@@Atmapalazzo Yeah. Idk about that one for sure. Could have been worth it. Hard to know for sure

[@MTGGoldfish]

If I bring in answers than what will I have to complain about? ;)

[@jackpabich763]

@@MTGGoldfish Lol. And I love the content, but it can be weird the contrast that you love The Great Henge (ie Revenge Week) vs this video.

[@benadler724]

So @MTGGoldfish (Seth), how exactly would you improve this deck if cost was no problem? I only needed to get 6 more rares on MTGA to do your build, so no big deal, and it is playing about 50/50 in diamond tier... but could be better. Any suggestions?

[@OdinHerjan]

"Let's Erupt on the Ooze... " @ 53:14 HAHAHAHAH .. i see what you did there

[@MTGGoldfish]

I realized almost immediately that it sounded way worse than I thought.

[@needlesareyourfriend]

Love it! I've been playing taunter control in historic, didn't think it was really viable in standard. Ideas for non-budget upgrades?

[@abeesknee8306]

I'm not sure how viable it is, but the combo of taunter and fiery emancipation is pretty ridiculous. With those out a shock does 18 damage to the face

[@needlesareyourfriend]

@@abeesknee8306 very viable. I play it in irencrag feat- ugin, or Feat Pics, as it's properly known

[@nicholaslott4575]

Wish The Great Henge was in Standard during Steel leaf champion days... Imagine that start.. T1, L. Elves. T2, Champion. T3, Henge, plus any possible 1 or 2 drop for 2 life, a card, and a counter on the creature.

[@willgary8792]

If Elves were legal rn the same play would b possible with Lovestruck beast

[@nicholaslott4575]

Actually, hadn't thought about beast. Technically, You could still T1 goose, T2 Beast, T3 Henge with a possible follow up.... Not a bad idea. Just hope you have a follow up that lets beast attack...

[@TheCrackler]

49:25 Is there a reason to not Roil Eruption Massacre Wurm and then attack? That would have saved you the Giant and 2 life while your opponent would have taken the same amount of damage. Or am I missing something?

[@aboredlad877]

I absolutely loved that brash taunter to zero play, it was so beutiful.

[@Silex-Flint]

To set stops you need to press L and then you can see the stops for each step of the combat phase in the bottom right corner.

[@Silex-Flint]

It's not arenas fault that you set the stop in the precombat main phase when you need to put stops in the attackers step.

[@OdinHerjan]

I bet you can't wait to tap that Poenix of Ass don't you Seth? @5:00 .. this video was the best that happened so far from SaffronOlive :D

[@theLogicblade]

Mazemind Tome or Treasure Map, which two mana artifact do you like more?

[@jacemindsculptor612]

I would add Terror of the Peaks to this deck for synergy, but the curve is so rough.

[@stepniak18]

I don't mind Embercleave and Hendge being so strong. But why other 3 artifacts from the cycle are so much crap? Especially the black one seems to be intentionally bad. In times when legendary mythics have no downsides, the Cauldron's text box is almost all downsides.

[@otisnt5718]

Like the editing, but it's gotten a bit too aggressive.

[@Jesterhead971]

Am I missing something around 36:30 or why can't he just play the slaying fires to kill the shark and the giant or the yorion?

[@michaelpluta3898]

So question, at about 12:20, Seth blocks the 9/9 with trample with taunter. If he activated taunted to fight the 9/9 before damage wouldn't that technically be enough to kill opponent and lead to a draw?

[@lobotomoy]

The Beast had trample so it would only deal 1 damage to the Taunter in combat. Also, the Taunter has a triggered ability so the damage would only be applied after combat damage has resolved. So, no it wouldn't cause a draw.

[@AIMLESS-NAMELESS]

I’ve been trying to build around (kroxa + fling) and I can’t make it work in diamond consistently. I have like 55% winrate. I run claim/fame and serrated scorpion. would love any suggestions if you have them. Don’t know if I said this yet but it’s historic

[@guildmaster3356]

Texas Red.deck

[@BarbeChenue]

Certainly had the big iron.

[@halcyonrain2209]

That last Gyruda game was BROOTAL

[@MTGGoldfish]

So close.

[@ConMan-bx1rk]

Seth definitely said Phoenix of ass 4:58

[@seanb9665]

Isn’t it ironic that Seth looks like torbran now and he is playing hum

[@skykrow]

Why didn't you bring in soul sears against Gyruda? It kills the Wurm.

[@DoomSpellSkadi]

It is a sweet drck but not too buget friendly

[@CSDragon]

5:00 This channel is no longer rated E for everyone.

[@quandaledingle966]

I don't think Great Henge is broken. Sure, it's really good, but in no way is it broken. You still need a big creature out of the battlefield to cast it easily, and it gets destroyed by artifact removal. Deal with it quickly and it doesn't have much of an impact on the game.

[@Mister_Tedious]

I want to see this as a commander deck.

[@lucasmesquita9101]

44:40 why did taunter only dealt 1 dmg to polukranos if torbran was on the table?

[@Kettwiesel25]

This is a rules interaction about different replacement effects. It actually didn't deal damage at all, because Polukranos replaces damage with removal of counters. Torbran replaces damage with more damage. But since the permanent affected by the replacement effects was Polukranos, its owner can choose which one goes first. If you prevent the 1 damage in the first place though, Torbran doesn't see any damage happening, so it doesn't do anything.

[@MTGGoldfish]

Polukranos's damage prevention vs. Taunter is weird.

[@Kurse_of_Kall]

"55 bucks in paper" Silly Seth, no one plays paper magic anymore!

[@Threadoflength]

and tbf nobody has played paper Standard in like 2 years

[@BobbyxZx]

i do, i've been playing at my lgs a couple days a week. they even give out prize packs, just don't count the matches towards dci.

[@Kaslay]

Came to see some big red beatsticks, ended up with people not knowing how to play around Brash Taunter. Strangely not dissapointed.

[@jorgefernandocho7824]

you make standard watchable, seth! Kuddos ! o/

[@themagicgeek4765]

Anyone else confused by the name "Gruul Incinerator"? Is it because that's where it started before making it budget?

[@MTGGoldfish]

Yeah, there was a Gruul Incinerator deck that we considered playing for a stream but never ended up playing and I ended up rebuilding it into this deck but didn't change the name.

[@getlooky736]

I wanna see tiptips gyruda deck list

[@AdamistheDevil]

So I'm probably missing something, but at 16:50, why didn't you have both Brash Taunters fight a 1/1 and Shock the third before Call resolved to prevent the beasts from attacking? I feel I'm missing something obvious, but have been awake almost 20 hours so my brain isn't working at 100%

[@OdinHerjan]

Because it was in his favor that the beasts attacked (as you witnessed the fact ;-)

[@MTGGoldfish]

We actually desperately needed our opponent to attack there or else we're likely to lose to the alpha strike the next turn.

[@Kokonutzlz]

Okay but I literally made a deck called Big Red that is definitely bigger than this. Game plan resolves around Irecrag Feat and win cons of big Chandra, Ugin, and (omg what's the 7cmc dragon called it's been forever since I actually played the deck)

[@joshuarichards9725]

Drakuseth?

[@ChunderThunder1]

@@joshuarichards9725 proooobably better known as maw of flames

[@ScatterBrainedYouBetterFollow]

Irecerag is banned in pauper

[@mattfenner7824]

@@ScatterBrainedYouBetterFollow lol, Ironcrag feat is not banned.

[@needlesareyourfriend]

Pretty sure that's a historic deck, this is standard.

[@emiliasmith5561]

5:01 phoenix of WHAT??

[@CSDragon]

I thought I was on a PleasantKenobi video for a moment

[@spice_krispies]

And once they mill the Incinerator?....

[@njnjhjh8918]

How do you get those Mountains?

[@champasaur]

Today I learned how to say "get got"

[@skylerhornagold4849]

Super fun

[@jackpabich763]

I'm glad this is cheap in paper, but it's too bad this deck is almost all races for Arena

[@LukeColdFire]

55 in paper, has a bunch of rares to get on MTGA

[@jonathanbohn4805]

49:22 Oh no! Could have won the game.

[@robmartin9890]

Is the clip from the beginning not even in the video?

[@TsahayluFa]

Brash Taunter was the mvp. Deck should be called Brash Burn.

[@NeiroAtOpelCC]

I don't get why anyone plays Arena! I liked this deck, so I decided to fire up Arena and see if I have the wildcards for it. First there's an update 1 of 1. Then there's another update 1 of 1 with a different size. Then the game starts up and downloads another gig of data and then hangs itself at a blank background with an 'adjust settings' gear that does nothing. Killing the app and restarting it now downloads another 1.4 gig. I wonder how many times people have to sit thru this to play a game of Magic?

[@MTGGoldfish]

Arena has some issues, that's for sure.

[@NeiroAtOpelCC]

@@MTGGoldfish Sure does. But it feels like nothing's changed. I didn't have enough wildcards to get your deck even after opening 21 packs, so I ended up just losing a couple times with my cycling deck. It seems clear to me that Wizards have designed the game so you can't grind for the deck you want until the season you can reliably play it in is almost over. Feels like any random mobile game really. Not very gratifying for me to sink time into.

[@arthurkeech]

Seth your machine looks like its dropping frames.

[@arthurkeech]

Might just be the editing, not sure

[@TheGaryDaniel]

I hate the quick editing in some places during the games and then slow editing in random dead spots. Skipping the opponent’s pick for blocks is annoying.

[@ericheinrichs8593]

Is budget magic but is also mostly rare... RIP because low wildcards

[@santyricon]

Chain Lightning Red

[@SyntheticReign]

Deck name: Gruul Incinerator. Hmmmmm........

[@danthorelli5140]

The editing makes it a bit frustrating to watch... Too many fast cuts.

[@danwharton9170]

I'd love to watch but arena is even worse to watch than it is to play.

[@overweightactor]

Ah, fuck. It's arena. I'm not watching arena.

[@winterbreaksable]

this isnt even big red, its like midrange red

[@VTM_rp]

You should probably run a limiter on the vocals. The moments where you're screaming are far too loud, aggressively so, compared to normal talking volume. It doesn't come across as audio quality fit for a channel with over 200K subs :/

[@IvanRSaldias]

Redder than biden

[@___ooobodybagooo___]

Medium red

[@Kettwiesel25]

Made me lol