500pt MESBG Batrep ~ Carn Dum VS Host of the Witch King | Middle Earth Strategy Battle Game

[@mtuktuk9627]

best intro and great to see you guys back in person :)

[@terryshiver1899]

Great video, loving the old school nerf in the background

[@NoobsandMen]

The past hobby must observe it's successor -Liam

[@silveryoyo2293]

Great to see a batrep again!

[@NoobsandMen]

More to come mate!

[@JonnyMitro]

The idea of Nazthak the eshay makes so much sense to me!

[@NoobsandMen]

He needs some Adidas gear and a bumbag -Liam

[@EdwardEast-x1j]

Amazing news drop, the new box looks very good. I won’t spoil anything, so go and have a look!

[@bobdown9092]

been a while since i've seen you guys post a bat rep. good, fun game.

[@NoobsandMen]

Blame so very many technical issues 🫠 have about 5 that have all been busted in one way or another in the last 6 months -Liam

[@bobdown9092]

@@NoobsandMen that's a shame

[@Hughzaa9]

Wow, you invited the best player in Australia just to test out the new stuff! Also always love me that AOE2 background music fellas, great choice

[@KieranBartonVO]

I was just building some lists for these two legendary legions! Looking forward to watching the bat-rep

[@NoobsandMen]

One of them is good! -Liam

[@lutzeichmeyer9338]

I really like Aldrac, the free combats seem very strong, but the way to run the legion is definitely not by using carn dum, just abuse the f6 free combats and spam orcs. Fantastic batrep, really fun to watch!

[@NoobsandMen]

And get only half the benefits of the legion/Aldrac? Like it's bad enough as is but spammed orcs isn't much of an improvement tbh

[@alantoney7417]

Aldrac seems good in the overall Angmar list, which unfortunately is not near as useful because The Host of The Witch King is a really really impressive legion. I've played it with a couple of guys in our group and I'm not sure they even really played the game.

[@NoobsandMen]

He's okay but he's only f5 for 120pts, in regular Angmar there's far better options -Liam

[@owaindavies8364]

Do the bad rules for this supplement give you worry for the rules in the new addition?

[@maxhempell6490]

no

[@NoobsandMen]

Yeah nah, they're just a bit of a disappointing legendary Legion and two relatively average models, nothing too serious -Liam

[@TheLumiya]

Is that some xcom music near the start? Love to hear it Also shame to see carn dum sucks so much, so much potential for cool

[@NoobsandMen]

I had such hopes when they were announced but they're like if Arnor and dunland had a baby and it got dropped on its head -Liam

[@Four_Farthings_Gaming]

Love this, so disappointed by carn dum. Double Ringwraith “host of the WK” is going to be cracked.

[@NoobsandMen]

Mercifully it's only for a few months 😂 -Liam

[@CapitanCorner]

Only 1 faint on Aldrac sucks! With 3 Fate he would be pretty good!

[@gijuki1335]

I normally really enjoy your videos and think you do a lot of great stuff, but this time I got a bit of criticism. I don't say this to shame Liam, since I myself complain quite a lot sometimes if a game is really onesided, but to me this was not fun to watch because of the constant complaining. I was considering not giving a feedback since it is quite negative, but I hope it helps instead of just bringing you down.

[@NoobsandMen]

🤷

[@JonJonRon]

I agree completely, I feel the exact same as I currently watch this. Had to pause and check if anyone else was as annoyed as I am about how annoyed Liam always is... Wait a minute, am I Liam???

[@KnudAutlermann]

Carn Dum heroes are decent when sprinkled. Running my Angmar, I'll bring only Carn Dum captains for anything unnamed. A cheap 60ish point captain with +1 to wound against heroes makes them trade up. Carn Dum warriors are a spicy disappointment. +1 to wound heroes is neat, but you're paying a premium for a niche ability. You don't even get it in Spear support. The legion wouldn't be half bad if Orcs got a buff of some sort. Carn Dum leaders, then spam orcs upon orcs upon orcs. Stat check them with bodies, the problem being the Orcs don't get anything.

[@NoobsandMen]

Yeah the captain's into Angamr aren't bad, tho id still take a mounted orc captain over them -Liam

[@729060]

I'm honestly disappointed with Carn Dum, was really excited for them but after reading their rules in the supplement and seeing this I'd definitely say they are a let down. The warriors should definitely lose their anti hero special rule and go down to 6 or 7 ppm. Though I could see the argument that then they do the same thing as the orcs. The other alternative is raise their points cost, and then have 2H axes and burly

[@NoobsandMen]

Yeah if the warriors were a bit more elite I think that'd help. Even making them f4 would have been a very solid improvement -Liam