533 Tiny Trainer is even better with HDZero | PART 1

[@harrisaerialservices3002]

Nice fountain pen.

[@JonE5FPV]

Agree. I had the most fun with my hdzero tiny trainer I have had with any FPV project in a long long time.

[@flo6708]

ou shit. After a really long time of not watchong you. And not following this hobby anymore, i realize how hard i missed you, this community and the hobby in general.

[@RyanQuellet]

Definitely my favorite drone to fly. I can fly it anywhere and it doesn't bother people too much. Fits hdzero well too

[@MrTheguywiththemoney]

People... soldering isn't hard. Don't let it discourage you.

[@nicobugs]

I mean he starts the video saying it's solder free, and then we end up removing a SMD resistor... That seems partially honest lol 😅

[@th30rphans]

Thanks for the encouragement, litarally all I needed... and I solder but just hesitant with all these expensive parts, live and learn

[@BowOneFire]

It's so hard it always ends in a complete mess and I've ruined 3 FCs from it

[@pengud485]

@@th30rphans I was too but honestly they are harder to break than you might think. My problem was using a too small tip, because I thought I made less damage that way, actually bigger was better because more heat in less time, so much easier!

[@pengud485]

@@BowOneFire Wow! That's not at all my experience, what happened if I may ask?

[@Bitathisandthat]

Nice is good to see they have caught up with hd zero as i built a hd zero one about 7weeks ago.and love the clear video. I used the 35amp aio though as the 20amp was outa stock at the time I also put hd zero in a tiny hawk 2 around 15weeks ago and that is soooo much fun to fly..i love it. had problems getting the tinyhawk to fly good so i pulled it all apart and re built with the race 2 board and it even turned out 9grams lighter than when i used the whoop board. i love it and fly it every second day.

[@cgnfpv]

The little one really has such a "must have" effect! 🤣🤣🤣

[@KindFPV]

Yes! Finally just received my 3rd hand about 2 weeks ago. Absolutely great build tool!!

[@u250_fpv2]

@10:29 The frustration from soldering these tiny pads.... 😂Just felt exactly the same a couple of days ago.

[@pacificnorthwestpilots6050]

Yay, real content again!!

[@KindFPV]

Sweet! Mine has been sitting on my bench waiting for a build video..lol

[@MCsCreations]

Fantastic work, Joshua! Beautiful build! 😃 Looking forward to the next steps! Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@spaced-mouse]

Great video! Very thorough and instructive!

[@steveeb00]

The good thing about the motor connectors on the board is that they are through hole and not smd soldered. So your concern about plugging in the motors and having a bit of wobble in the connector is not as concerning as it would be if they were surface mounted.

[@sunsetpark_fpv]

I think I NEED this....my first HDZero quad.....😃 hmmmm maybe my first ELRS build also..... 😎

[@ringzero3260]

2:38 deez nuts 11:50 deez nuts 2 12:14 deez nuts 3

[@Shooter_FPV]

I love my Tiny Trainer... did a build from scratch, including pulsating LEDs. Lots of hair on those prints...

[@jeffgrills1101]

I just helped a friend with this build, ran into the same issues with connecting the receiver and the standoff. If you meter it out, the sbus jumper is connected to the RX3 pin as well, so I just soldered the receiver to one side of the SBUS 0-ohm receiver.

[@StikFlikFPV]

Love the TT!

[@tatdj47Buckfpv]

And I thought of something else wow do you hook up the lights on the analog version 🤔

[@th30rphans]

I am so excited... I've been flying drl sim for 2 hours a day recently 🙃

[@CDRaff]

14:14 that's the exact kind of task you buy a Wowstick for.

[@gmivisualsjason3729]

Excellent video as always Joshua Bardwell 👏 👍 👌 😀 ❤

[@MrHitman1966]

Really interesting to watch - great stuff

[@JohnCuppi]

I need to get one of these! Looks cool.

[@wearemany73]

Ohhh, I do like that little soldering helper..🤤 (Coverts gadgetry*😑) Great video JB. 😁

[@gus8378]

12:25 adding a washer on top of the M2 nut prevents the gummy from deforming around it when you tighten it down.

[@danielmccullock1249]

Great video Josh! I literally got my tt and all parts to make it with hdzero yesterday (not fpv crate, sourced all myself). Looking forward to flying and racing with this. There is a crew here in Australia racing these and a bunch have hdzero!

[@licensetodrive9930]

You saw my Shark Byte / HDZero equipped TinyTrainer flying over a year ago with those TPU props :)

[@fishman241]

I have one and have built it and flown it. It's great! I'm too lazy to tune it myself, but It's flying pretty smooth with betaflight stock settings even.

[@fishman241]

For the record, I used the "dji" plug with the hdzero whoop board. Just had some empty wires. And I used the vtx plug to connect my ghostrc module since I didn't have clearance for the plug.

[@_Brando_69]

They have a tune posted on the product page that works great

[@lostinacrowd]

I've been using the TT preset in BF 4.3. Works well.

[@_Brando_69]

@@lostinacrowd i need to update all of mine to 4.3. havent gotten around to updating all my quads

[@415bryant]

Yes, you have to hold down the top when plugging in the motors. I just built one of these and broke one of them. I just direct soldered them. Also, the receiver plus and where one of the standoffs go is hard to get together on mine because it pinches the wires. They need to kind of re-think some of the placements. The canopy also didn't fit great, so I just cut the arms off. Definitely fun to fly but NOT a beginners build.

[@HoRNET_FPV]

To use the SBUS pad, some ELRS receivers can be flashed with RCVR_INVERT_TX checked ( and only by Wi-FI per teh domcumention ) and then in BetaFlight CLI -> serialrx_inverted = ON

[@originafreerangechicken]

This HDZero version is very, very difficult to resist. I would have a tough time sneaking this past the wife and that’s literally the only thing stopping me. lol.

[@CarlPaulsen]

And the low stock levels 😉

[@mooommo14]

Looks like those pads next to the connectors would be tricky to solder to.

[@CGFPV]

3:20 I can't get that bottom USB port to work. It briefly shows in betaflight for a blink after powering on, but then disappears, and I can't connect with betaflight. Have to use the port on the side. Any trick with that? Else that port is pretty useless

[@CGFPV]

nevermind. Updated Betaflight and it worked.

[@xDownSetx]

If you want to clean the hairs off of the 3D printed parts, you can pass the flame of a lighter over the part quickly. It won't cause any harm to the part, but it will completely remove the hairs.

[@nickrich710]

that looks simple and easy for me

[@k3nsei]

@JoshuaBardwell could you mention about DIY fume extractor, to not breathe dangerous fumes? There are also cheep Chinese microscopes with LCD screen which are super useful, like this one MUSTOOL G1200.

[@Temporal_Flux]

For an SBUS receiver, couldn't you just use the SBUS pin in the HD Video socket on the FC, as you aren't using it for DJI?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

That's actually so obvious I kind of can't believe we didn't think of it.

[@Temporal_Flux]

@@JoshuaBardwell Well, that only proves that you are indeed human, after all.

[@JoshuaBardwell]

I'm not kidding -- I talked to the 533 guys and the FPV Crate guys to get the best solution we could and this is what we came up with.

[@lostinacrowd]

Nice, thanks for making this video! A lot of people seem to have lost interest in this one for some reason. It's fun to fly! Strange though, I got my AIO directly from Five33 and the receiver connector was aiming directly up not out so it didn't interfere with the standoff. Strange that FPV crate didn't send that version to you...

[@notcody3012]

Hey Joshua I have a tyro119 build that kinda off broken when I power it on it and arm it 3 of the 4 motors spin up and it try’s to fly away was wandering if I could mail you it somehow maybe and you could do some sort of video on troubleshooting on it if you wanted

[@BrownSoloFPV]

I recently picked up an analog setup from FPV crate and couldn’t use that fancy receiver plug it came with because the plug on the AIO was pushed up against one of the front stand-offs

[@BrownSoloFPV]

Guess I should’ve watched the whole video before I commented 😂 guess you ran into the same problem I did

[@lostinacrowd]

Five33 has the same board but that connector is aiming up instead of out so the standoff isn't in the way.

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Can't use the up facing with hdzero though.

[@lostinacrowd]

@@JoshuaBardwell too true. I'm thinking they need to redesign the frame so just one board works for all.

[@cosinusquad4054]

How ist the cooling of the HDzero Whoop. My WHoop Boards are going really hot...

[@GTPressure]

What would be a good alternative flight controller cause there sold out and I wanna build one

[@JoshuaBardwell]

I use JHEMCU

[@jefffpv2759]

can a vista fit in it? looks cool.

[@tatdj47Buckfpv]

I need some analog suff man can't go hd just yet on the analog version which way does the camera go plug at top or bottom

[@fluffynl3390]

i am in the process of building a TT but the aio fc's are hard to source 😢 any good fc alternatives for an analog build?

[@velkrofpv6654]

I actually love to solder. It's a larger portion of this hobby that pushes me further down the rabbit hole. Too easy. Just practice

[@2ndary-_-328]

I just can't wan't wait my Tiny Trainer to arrive

[@ishraq_6251]

Mr. Bardwell, can you please take a look at the SIYI HM30 system on the next New FPV product video?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Listed latency of 150 ms tells me everything I need to know. It might be ok for long range and autonomous flying, but absolutely unusable for proximity flying.

[@ishraq_6251]

@@JoshuaBardwellOh, I see! Thanks a lot for the information ❤

[@paulbredt5607]

if you are doing a on-solder kit, why not just do a BNF?

[@micsherwood4930]

How did you get that 3rd hand soldering unit? they have been out of stock for like 6-7 months!

[@JoshuaBardwell]

I bought it three months ago.

[@anujchandkapoor]

Please can companies stop making boards with Frsky SBus and instead give that extra space to increase the soldering pad size. For people still using Frsky protocol please buy ELRS TX module for your radio trust me you will forget mid air dropouts completely its fantastic and it's open source.

[@adeadegoke4925]

@Joshua Bardwell, Am a newbie can I skip learning on a simulator (Velocidrone) and get one of these?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

I still think you would do better to learn on a sim.

[@adeadegoke4925]

@@JoshuaBardwell Thanks for replying. I really appreciate it

[@LoversFPV]

now we just need the PNP vista version...

[@bossanova]

Yes, HDZero fits perfectly in very small and light Quads ... but with 200mw everything is a pain, as long as you're on a track.

[@ronsone8373]

That sold out quickly

[@ripperfpv9880]

Did that 18 months ago with shark byte

[@thfpv4974]

Nice

[@gabgabgabgab]

3d printed parts are tight

[@TillmannHuebner]

11:49 Deeeez nuts

[@colinhealey6244]

@11:52

[@scu-dub]

Ahhhhh my favorite dream quad I will have one....one day😞....I fell in love with this quad the first time I saw it over a year and and half ago and after watching JB fly it It went on my list lol 🤌🏽✌🏽

[@zakuII42]

Not the greatest with hdzero vtx, super sensitive and not a lot of room to breath. I've had video issues with soft mounting everything as well. Ended up going back to analog until a smaller more reliable vtx comes out.

[@bjowitt]

Odd, not had a problem on my 3 quads with HDZero. The improvement over analogue is brilliant, great and affordable upgrade path.

[@JohnCuppi]

@@bjowitt I've been pretty lucky with mine as well in 3 quads. 🤷‍♂

[@StikFlikFPV]

👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

[@shALKE]

If only they had the fc with elrs

[@AGILISFPV]

Too expensive tbh. Rather build a 5" racer for that kind of money.

[@Jangmo88]

With the current stock levels and prices, can you though?

[@johndextersantos9541]

of all the colors of electrical tape available. . why orange?? 🤣

[@lostinacrowd]

Bright colors show up in tall grass better 😜

[@ringzero3260]

9 minutes ago?

[@emiltv]

In this day and age solder what a joke it's like really why not solder a pc computer parts too hahaha .. but seriously everyone should know how to atleast solder anything that comes loose.. the thing when u build a new quad it's not just solder it's checking everything else wire placement , continuity, comparability with components etc etc so yes that's all time consuming.. a true plug and play be perfect oh shit now we have to know tunning .. that's harder than solder

[@breakflight]

This looks like a great concept with poor execution.

[@inakidb]

far from. beginner build.

[@fluoxethine]

It's not most fun sorry

[@xymaryai8283]

wtf is this build, are you insane? there is nothing about it except the motors that is easy to build. its just straight up misleading

[@JoshuaBardwell]

If you build the analog one, then you only have to solder the receiver. The hdzero one yeah it's not much saving.

[@richardheedfpv9626]

First.