I don't know if trying to prove a point is a masculine trait. I know I have to frequently remind myself that I am "not here to convince, but to express" that which flows in and through me. Love the emphasis on cosistant daily practice. Every guest of yours that I've listened to has emphasized this. It's so key that I don't think it can avoid being mentiontiond if a person is truly on the path. "Opening allows space for other beliefs even when those beliefs are contrary"... "All truths are but half truths... Hermetic Principle #4 Catie mentioned there being limitless ways to engage in spiritual practices but didn't explicitly state that all things are spiritual. I was wondering if either of you discriminates between things being spiritual and non-spiritual? I caught a glimpse of what you two were seeing/experiencing at the very end. Just as over time, corporations evolved from improving workplace safety to physical well-being (providing gyms at the office or insurance discounts for having a gym membership). To our present evolution, which is focused on mental health. It was beautiful to see a time when the development of "spiritual" well-being will become more common place within the corporate entity. I think it will be only then that our economic patterns will align with the earth and the cosmos.