Ajmal Masroor | Tower Hamlets, Party Politics & Unseating Rushanara Ali | BB

In this episode of the Blood Brothers Podcast Dilly Hussain spoke with the British Bangladeshi imam, broadcaster and politician Ajmal Masroor. #Gaza #Labour #BloodBrothersPodcast
Topics of discussion include:
- The different players and stakeholders in Tower Hamlets.
- Decision to run as an independent parliamentary candidate in the constituency of Bethnal Green and Stepney.
- Deadlock with Tasnime Akunjee and the subsequent resolution.
- Rabina Khan, the Liberal Democrats, and party politics.
- Ajmal’s previous unsuccessful general election campaigns with the Liberal Democrats.
- Unseating Rushanara Ali and punishing Labour of the Gaza genocide.
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[@5Pillars]

As salaamu alaykum brothers, sisters, friends and foes. Please like, share and comment on this video, as well as subscribing to the 5Pillars KZbin channel! Jazakallah khayran.

[@amitdangwal3041]

No thanks

[@YA-do8tz]

و عليك السلام و رحمة الله و بركاته

[@Shabs2456]

Guys I’m not in your area, but it’s imperative we unite to slash Labours land slide. Labour cannot, no way take us for granted. Remember “United we stand, divided we fall.” Vote Ajmal

[@amitdangwal3041]

No Ajmal

[@dhopiaza]

@@amitdangwal3041hinduwata 😂😂

[@SelinaAkhtar-ij4je]

I’m a TH resident and I am voting brother Ajmal and encouraging ALL my friends and family to do the same. As a woman I am speaking to all the mothers and sisters I come to contact with

[@mhhoque81]

Same

[@Open_your_mind786]

Vote for this Brother

[@jakirkai1962]

I hope everyone in Tower Hamlets votes for Ajmal

[@entername_]

Came across Brother Masroor on social media platforms and MSM back in late 2000’s and met him personally in 2012 Goodge Street Mosque central London before Jummah, brother Masroor is a true champion, he’s activism for the deen is on point. Brother hasn’t sold his deen and managed to keep in touch with mainstream politics which is not easy in the current climate. My vote

[@abz5627]

I think Akunjee comes across more genuine to be honest but unity is important here for the people of Gaza

[@samsammsammm1547]

The biggest lie is that akunjee ‘stood down’. He didn’t at all, they tossed a coin to decide. it was a disgraceful abuse of democracy and representation, especially when both claimed to represent grass roots.

[@nazdabner2685]

@@samsammsammm1547go away zio agent

[@Shabs2456]

@@samsammsammm1547TROLL!!!!!! ‘United we stand, divided we fall’.

[@_Z.K_]

You seem to have immense surety of your telepathic ability

[@samsammsammm1547]

@@Shabs2456ask ajmal or akunjee to put hand on the Quran and deny it. Go on.

[@mohussain7773]

Not from tower hamlets but always been impressed by Ajmal

[@NK-ht3fo]

Both br masroor and bro akunjee are amazing, may Allah swt accept their efforts and grant them success

[@jansher786]

Ajmal made it to our year 9 RE classes with his work in TV. Great to have a genuine Muslim voice who does not forget our basic values. May Allah allow him to be an Ambassador for us

[@jamilhk786]

Come on people let's get behind the brother Ajmal

[@samsammsammm1547]

The biggest lie is that akunjee ‘stood down’. He didn’t at all, they tossed a coin to decide. it was a disgraceful abuse of democracy and representation, especially when both claimed to represent grass roots.

[@jamilhk786]

@@samsammsammm1547 doesn't matter move on, think of the reason why we are voting independent candidates. This is bigger than anyone, let's get behind and out the Zionist puppet.

[@ashaqhussain6902]

​​@@samsammsammm1547 Fake News... Ajmal Masroor himself is saying Akunjee stepped aside.

[@Arwar555]

​@@samsammsammm1547 Were you there to witness the "toss"?

[@ahk3394]

I still think hes a opportunist and Akunjee was more genuine. However we need to shake up the establishment! 🇵🇸

[@SamuelSR-ld6hf]

Salam, great work Dilly and team, may Allah swt reward you all abundantly for shedding light on important issues and highlighting the importance of unity at a time of tribulation for the community

[@sikandermahmood7806]

Salam. Masroor bhahi has always championed Muslim and Islamic issues. He is an intellectual of the highest order. I hope he is successful in the forthcoming election. He will stand with Gaza openly and frankly in sha Allah. All the best masroor bhahi.

[@AbirDawah]

I know azmal masroor through BBC radio 14 years ago. His famous quota was " I see less Muslims in UK but find more Islam. But in bangladesh i see many Muslims but not see Islam in here. This quota pined me hard 😍

[@user-kr1lm7zi7g]

👏👏👏

[@ashaqhussain6902]

The Quote was originally made by Shaykh Muhammed Abduh a reformist modernist scholar from Al Azhar over a hundred years ago. He said "In Europe I see Islam but no Muslims, and Egypt I see Muslims but no Islam" He was emphasising that in many ways the behaviour, manner and conduct of non Muslims in their everyday dealings was more in line with the sunnah then Muslims in Muslim countries.

[@AbirDawah]

@@ashaqhussain6902 I heard same things bye him in bbc bangla interview almost 13 years ago..

[@ashaqhussain6902]

​@@AbirDawah I am sure Ajmal did state that . I am just stating that Ajmal has borrowed that quote from Shaykh Mohammed Abduh and rephrased and repeated it for a modern audience in Bangla.

[@Mina-pi9ol]

Salaam Dilly, please interview Tahir Mirza, an independent candidate running for East Ham. He is trying to beat the current labour MP, Stephen Timms

[@ABM202]

Assalamu alaikum. Jummah Mubarak. Make sure to fast tomorrow (Special day of Arafah)

[@nastyalfred]

Insha'Allah

[@YA-do8tz]

و عليك السلام و رحمة الله و بركاته

[@aibel99]

I like this guy may allah bless and reward him abundantly inshallah

[@anjumf1]

Inshallah, the constitutes send a message to Keir Starmer! Labour cannot take the ethnic minority vote for granted and treat it like a voting bank!

[@mahmodulhuque5081]

100% Ajmal Mansoor well known in not only Tower Hamlets but also in the UK

[@szyszy286]

It remains to be seen, if his words and actions agree with each other.

[@Miftahuddin82]

How many times did br. Ajmal use the word 'my Constituency' Unfortunately, the locals of Tower Hamlets do not see him as one of their own. Akunjee was the peoples preferred candidate but time to put that aside and back Ajmal. Labour need to be taught a lesson.

[@samsammsammm1547]

The biggest lie is that akunjee ‘stood down’. He didn’t at all, they tossed a coin to decide. it was a disgraceful abuse of democracy and representation, especially when both claimed to represent grass roots.

[@Shabs2456]

You are a troll!!!!!!! ‘ United we stand, divided we fall’,

[@Miftahuddin82]

​@@Shabs2456 I'm not a troll I am a local. I do understand that Ajmal is a TV personality known amongst the community and elders etc but at the same time he has to realise he does not have the support of a lot of the community and many will now no vote because of his decision to stand. Anyway inshallah he succeeds and we get rid of Rowshanara and Labour

[@rally7358]

*Not from Tower Hamlet and wasn't rooting for bro Ajmal before, however now I've changed my mind and will be supporting him as a credible independent candidate.* #NoLabour #NoTory #VoteIndependent

[@Manjra__]

Jazakallah khair

[@realt1984]

Brother Ajmal is our voice when it comes to mainstream media. Very well spoken. Vote Ajmal ✔️

[@MuhammadAli-hr1bj]

Back him all the way.

[@lilytas1]

Akunjee is no doubt the better candidate and if Ajmal doesn't win he should never stand again and sabotage yet another election.

[@samsammsammm1547]

The biggest lie is that akunjee ‘stood down’. He didn’t at all, they tossed a coin to decide. it was a disgraceful abuse of democracy and representation, especially when both claimed to represent grass roots.

[@nazdabner2685]

@@samsammsammm1547why you dividing people. You are Zionist agent. How much are they paying you!

[@Shabs2456]

@@samsammsammm1547 TROLL!!!! ‘United we stand , divided we fall’.

[@shayed9930]

​@@samsammsammm1547stop the cap.

[@shayed9930]

No one in tower hamlets know akunjee like that. He is know as a guy who tries getting shamima back. He is a good man but ajmal has been in tower hamlets with the people.

[@hibaB2805]

Please, please do not split the vote. Gaza/Palestine need us now more than ever!

[@Zakg24]

Ah such a shame the pod was so short. Inshallah there will be a part 2

[@MK-pt9xt]

Love the dilly interviews on this channel, why only 29 minutes dilly why? :)

[@_Z.K_]

Very authentic voice, Ajmal bai for MP iA!

[@mmisbah]

What a brilliant interview Thank you, Dilly, for an insightful interview 👍🏻

[@CineRanter]

This interview makes an interesting companion piece to the one Akunjee just did on The Thinking Muslim

[@redman6790]

Perfectly time Alhamdullilah

[@wackypeace1135]

I'm gonna listen to this before making judgement, but let's say I'm skeptical

[@nomad7060]

​@@wackypeace1135 Akunjee gave a misleading account of things. For a fact, Masroor running was not a surprise to Akunjee. He made it sound like he ran in Jan, and Masroor only decided to run in March. Not true, they were both considering running at the same time and knew about one another. Akunjee declared without discussing. But he redeemed himself, and then some.

[@wackypeace1135]

​​​@@nomad7060I don't have a dog in the fight, neither am I Bengali or live anywhere near the constituency. If Akunjee had stood first, irrespective of whether it was done in a deceitful manner, Masroor should have never stood. They're primarily standing for the Gaza cause so should put the Palestinian interests first and their own egos aside. Despite that I'd put any differences aside and still vote for either.

[@hardworkingwoman3780]

​@wackypeace1135 hi, if you listen to the first ten minutes of this interview, this gentleman states in great detail why he is the one running for parliament - time is too short so they both agreed to back the name the majority know.

[@alobaydisheikh]

What we know for sure is a vote for Labour is a vote for Zionisim. Ajmal is the best fit for this situation.

[@IrfanAli-qp1gm]

Please all Muslims vote Ajmal - do not vote for sell out Labour Rushanara Ali.

[@aafiaturkey6748]

❤Ajmal and Akundje even more for his magnanimous approach

[@shus5787]

All the best Ajmal

[@MK-pt9xt]

Great podcast

[@minhajnizam5090]

Would vote for Ajmal if i could.

[@trigger393]

Mashallah ajmal masroorwis very articulate

[@iramwarriah9613]

Brilliant interview Dilly Mashallah. Allah increase your success. Please get Galloway on Workers Party could really do with the exposure.

[@AbuGhruba]

Akunjee was the better candidate.

[@samsammsammm1547]

The biggest lie is that akunjee ‘stood down’. He didn’t at all, they tossed a coin to decide. it was a disgraceful abuse of democracy and representation, especially when both claimed to represent grass roots.

[@Shabs2456]

Stop this bickering….. ‘united we stand, divided we fall’.

[@AbuGhruba]

No division guy I detest Fib Dem with a passion ​@@Shabs2456

[@AbuGhruba]

​@@samsammsammm1547blah blah. So what? Coin toss was the best thing. It nows gives us a chance to unseat a devil

[@shus5787]

Good podcasts

[@kb7202]

Sad that akunjee stepped down because imo he is the better candidate. Let’s hope Imam Masroor wins.

[@mrahmanchowdhury2499]

We are with you brother. Go ahead and

[@user-ip1vd6mk5h]

Great podcast ❤

[@alib7489]

Why did he decide to stand knowing Akunjee had been already campaigning since January

[@hardworkingwoman3780]

The first ten minutes will provide you with the answer to your question, in detail - they both agreed to back the name the majority know, bc time is short.

[@alib7489]

​@hardworkingwoman3780 Yes, fair enough but I had been following Akunjee's campaign since Jan and I thought he was doing well. Who knows I could be wrong. I hope Ajmal wins Inshaa Allah

[@shayed9930]

No one in tower hamlets know akunjee. Ajmal has been campaigning for years.

[@syedvaz6109]

He isn’t everyone cup of tea, but as of now. Put all that shit aside and back Ajmal. There is no way Rushanara should be given an ounce of support! Boycott Labour - no Votes for genocide

[@koismiah8036]

Need part 2

[@shayed9930]

I was one to doubt him but he will have my entire team vote for him. Inshallah imam ajmal will be our mp.

[@muk113522]

He is wide awake . Good man

[@DC-wp6oj]

Ajmal has always been forthright and doesn’t mince his words. Respect.

[@4Li4LiB4NG4Li]

Jealousy and envy befalls our comunity... unite together.stop being devisive and self centred. For the sake of our children.

[@md.ahsanulkabirarif]

Best wishes for Ajmal Bhai

[@boshmiah9223]

Assalaam walikum guys, love your content. Small request to make it easier to watch in parts would be to add timestamp. Keep up the great work

[@emzed6053]

❤

[@FreePhillistine]

Ajmal will win a landslide victory. Let’s hope hundreds of such independents win this time. Just imagine the political change that can erupt in the GB - it will certainly make it great again. We can lead the way for a better and just world.

[@ghulamespositohaydar3530]

Team Tasnime Akunjee.

[@Pakilla64]

I remember when Rushnara first got elected as MP, Bangladeshi newspapers were drooling all over her. The papers have a habit of celebrating people of Bengali descent, this guy got a job in Google, that girl became a ballerina, Tulip Siddiqi became MP and all the other useless people, but I haven't heard a single mention of Ajmal Masroor. Unbelievable that's the first I'm hearing about him.

[@harriskhan7671]

I think the reason is that he's not a sell-out but an honest person

[@minhajnizam5090]

Tulip Sidique aunt is the PM of Bangladesh

[@user-ez1lq2hn9v]

I am your sister from Yemen, and by Allah I only spoke out of hunger and distress. My mother, my brothers, and I lessons and tears. We are in a situation that only God knows about. God is sufficient for us, and He is the best disposer of affairs for those who brought us to this situation. By Allah Almighty, I did not write this appeal out of distress and distress. Poverty, O world, they have felt it So, I hope for you. By Allah Almighty, Lord of the Great Throne, he ate what I had in the house. By Allah, my brothers, he is my brothers by sitting in the house. Who has no food? By God, we are in a very difficult situation. We have 6 people entering the house, and my father has died, and there is no one who can depend on us and who lives in it.We live in a rented house because we cannot pay the rent we owe. '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' ''''''''''''' My brother, my first words are: I swear to God that I will not lie to you or deceive you. I am a Yemeni girl displaced from the war. My family and I live in a rented house in Al-Shahrab 15,000 Yemenis among us, and now we owe 45,000 for 3 months. The owner of the house is one of the people who does not have mercy, by God, my brother. He comes every day, insulting us, talking about us, and moving from the house to the street because we were unable to pay him the rent. The neighbors saw us crying and came back.They came back to talk to the neighbors and we were given the weekend. So we made him swear by God. He will take us out into the street. Have mercy on him and us. Our country is due to this war and we do not find food for our day, and my brothers and I live in a difficult life. Our father died, may God have mercy on him, and we have no one in this world who was with us in these harsh circumstances. My younger brothers went out into the street and saw...The neighbors eat and stand at their door in order to give them bread even if they break it. By God, to whom belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth, they closed the door and expelled them and came back crying. They are dying of hunger. No one has mercy on them and a holiday is returned. I have made a living, and now if one of us helps us with a kilo of flour, I swear to God, I am dying of hunger. My brother, I am an alien to God. Then, I ask you to help me for the sake of God. I ask you, by God, to love goodness and to help me, even if you can, by messaging me on WhatsApp.On this number 00967717415667 and ask for the name of my card and send it and do not be late and may God reward you with all the best, my brothers Sagar, see how they are and help us and save us before they throw us out in the street, you will be lost or we will die of hunger. My family and I ask you, by God, if you are able to help us, do not be late and may God reward you well..`/--~«««~-♡~♡~♡~~•~•~♡~♡~♡~♡~♡~♡♡♡~~~: ~:~¡~¡~¡~;I.i.i.i.i.i. i.I.|-.&__.......

[@abuhamza1970]

Ask him about his membership of the Quillam Foundation

[@suyebkhan758]

Insha Allah you will successfully pass in the election

[@shafiqgani123]

Should have divided video into chapters

[@user-iu4dq6wm1t]

What happened to the podcast episode with Tasnime Akunjee? I started watching it but hadn't finished it yet and now it seems its been removed

[@bonzzzzyboy]

Salams, I am from Scotland, Can you please advice us how should we vote in Scotland, SNP is the strongest party, Are we ok to vote for them or shall we support independent candidate?

[@zakariyaahmed4386]

Akunjee was the man of honour! This man should have let tasneem to run.

[@Otainment_47]

So proud his Bengali legend

[@K114LED]

I pray all independents smash the polls.

[@anasuzzaman3578]

Vote for Ajmal Masroor, he is an honest and decent person

[@h.malik.s]

He’d make a great leader!

[@ajatala]

Please invite haleema khan, ex labour HQ staffer.....she is candidate from Stratford & Bow constituency

[@yahyahali8313]

I’d vote for Ajmal because he always seemed like a straight up real person but more so because I want to see the Anti-Palestinian Rushanara gone from her position

[@minhajnizam5090]

I'd definitely vote for him if I lived in the area. Always liked Ajmal

[@ahmedhanif911]

Its a shame there is 3 or 4 worthy candidates in Stratford and Bow. Suspicion that labour is funding some independents to split the vote

[@4Li4LiB4NG4Li]

O rushunara... Lab ourorr khombolleh di hamai ghisso! No shame!

[@minhajnizam5090]

I'm in a tory safe area our labour candidate was pro Palestine and she called out islamaphobia in labour and her selection was cancelled she's now standing as an independent

[@4Li4LiB4NG4Li]

@minhajnizam5090 sorry but, are you talking about our sister Halima, who called the Labour Party out on its Mafia style conduct?

[@minhajnizam5090]

@@4Li4LiB4NG4Li no this is Chingford & Woodford Green. Candidate name is Faiza Shaheen. Our MP is Ian Duncan Smith

[@4Li4LiB4NG4Li]

​@minhajnizam5090 sorry I'm not from London. I'm an hour up the M40. Wishing all "true" independants the very best of luck. Really hope the elders support the views of the new generation and back them without being stubborn and voting for the Labour Mafia!

[@mahirrahman7]

Ajmal is the best!!

[@ashaqhussain6902]

I think Akunjee would have been a better candidate, Ajmal has lost to Rushnara previously.

[@yaxley3920]

Pressure on Tower Hamlet citizens, I am sure you will do the right thing and elect Ajmal Masroor.

[@taherajenz]

You should reach out to Lubna Zaidi former apprentice contestant who has recently said she is thinking a out becoming an ex Muslim on her KZbin channel called Candid by Lubna because she is very confused about Islam and Muslims behaviours living in the UK. Bro Dilly you should consider reaching out to her to discuss her confusion, it would be interesting to listen to.

[@HomeTravelGardenInspo]

How about we ignore her, because attention is what she’s after.

[@4Li4LiB4NG4Li]

Try concentrating on 1 thing bro!

[@taherajenz]

Fair enough

[@ashaqhussain6902]

​@taherajenz Best to ignore such people instead of giving them a bigger audience, do you think it is just a co-incidence that she has begun her anti-Islam rhetoric and stereotyping of Muslims as dangerous extremists who represent a threat to British values exactly at a time when the genocide in GAZA is happening....?

[@SD-uc2lq]

Why only 34mins 😮

[@devianadkar7969]

Independent candidates in the same constituency where a workers party candidate is standing should step down. Voting for randoms will not help in parliament. Vote workers party where they are standing to indeed send a message. Too many pro gaza independents are standing where it is not needed making me think it is less about gaza but more about their personal success and ego.

[@theversifier]

Masroor is a career opportunist, he’s had his fingers in more pies than he could see to completion. Becoming an MP would be just another accolade under his belt for him to gloat about. I pray Allah rectifies his intentions and keeps him firm on it and gives him the ability to see it through to a fruitful end!

[@BESTOFTHEBEST123]

Brother ajmal should be next prime minister of Bangladesh 🇧🇩

[@amitdangwal3041]

YES let's make Bangladesh Hub of Jihad & Sharia..

[@Itz_HFA]

Half an hour is not a podcast

[@Mr.GeeKhan786]

I have respect for brother Ajmal based on what I have seen of him in the media in the past but I don’t think people should vote for a candidate solely on their stance on Gaza. I just don’t think that’s smart. I would also look at their policies across the board and what they offer to British society and myself in general.

[@mokhtarhussain5095]

I like to ask a question. What's your advice to a Muslim sister Green party candidate, standing against a Muslim indipendent candi selected by the Muslim community?

[@4Li4LiB4NG4Li]

30:55 Leave the cat 🐈 out of it bro! True though, Dont leave it with Rushnara!😅

[@FikrNaqdi]

This guy is way better than than the clown lawyer from Birmingham. I was shocked to see Asrar Rashid promoting Saul Goodman.

[@justj9141]

This guy is a bit insufferable. But if it’s a choice between him and Rushanara it’s a no brainier.

[@syedvaz6109]

Exactly!

[@aafiaturkey6748]

Shame on Rushmara

[@jjviolator]

Mohammed akunjee should have stood, not this guy.

[@samsammsammm1547]

The biggest lie is that akunjee ‘stood down’. He didn’t at all, they tossed a coin to decide. it was a disgraceful abuse of democracy and representation, especially when both claimed to represent grass roots.

[@Shabs2456]

@@samsammsammm1547 TROLL!!!!!!! ‘United we stand, divided we fall’.

[@rumariyah4750]

This is his 4th time

[@Speak-The-Truth-Now]

Correction, sorry he does not have grass-root support, he is seen as a divisive character one moment liberal democrats, next independent! He is out there for his own interest! jack of all trades master of none..

[@4Li4LiB4NG4Li]

😅 when it rains, you put raincoat on. When it's sunny, take jacket of and put sunglasses on. The point is you have to choose depending on the climate one is in. Just a thought.

[@Speak-The-Truth-Now]

He is like a feather in the wind wherever the wind takes he goes.

[@samsammsammm1547]

The biggest lie is that akunjee ‘stood down’. He didn’t at all, they tossed a coin to decide. it was a disgraceful abuse of democracy and representation, especially when both claimed to represent grass roots.

[@Shabs2456]

@@samsammsammm1547 TROLL !!!!!! ‘ united we stand, divided we fall’.

[@gogadgetgo3125]

'As soon as my eyes are open, Allah (SWT) has given me a great nimah, i'm fully awake'... LOL.

[@_Z.K_]

What’s so funny?

[@TheDesiExperience]

Man sounds like his only looking for a protest vote to get into the parliament.

[@ni3467]

How will these sell outs answer infront of Allah.

[@ahsanmir8676]

My 80 year vote never for labour Tory hypocrites. Strengthen your IMAAN IN YOUR HEARTS FIRST AND YOU ARE WITH SUCCESS IN YOUR TIME STOPS THAT NEVER STOPS FOR ANYONE FROM WHOM WE COME TO HIM WE RETURN WITH SUCCESS WHERE IT MATTERS YOU LEAVE EVERYTHING BEHIND WITH YOUR TIME STOPING.

[@mkdon101]

Ajmal is jus a clout chasing clown.he been around for years never once cared about standing but then he saw akujnee having a chance to win so he jumps on the bandwagon

[@_Z.K_]

You sad Rushnara being ousted? Lol

[@mkdon101]

@_Z.K_ lol she's probably the only thing worse than him.

[@proshantoshen]

He is using religion issues to go into MP

[@invitedtoislam]

Great interview 👌

[@Icebham]

Sorry to say but Mr Masroor comes across as desperate to become an MP. It's obviously personal with rushanara because he's lost to her so many times, back then it wasn't because of Gaza. The political stupidity of standing against Corbyn's labour for the lib dems shows he doesn't have the capability to be a representative in parliament. Politics isn't just about shouting Free Free, it's about persuading others to come round to your way of thinking and sometimes you have to negotiate. If he gets in hes going to sit in a corner and be ignored, just comes across as completely backward and uninspiring. Also, pathetic to suggest each vote for labour equates to dead children, its Netanyahu who is the child killer, he doesn't even listen to Biden do you think he even cares that there are calls for ceasefire? Lets be real about it and pressure for the halting of any arms sales, thats a pragmatic approach.