5up roasts ludwig

[@CruzeeStar]

5up has been blowing off with chess lately

[@Kasiarzynka]

5up is just the prodigy child with everything he touches. Change my mind. Tbf there's probably countless hours behind the scenes that he put in in order to get good but still

[@Kasiarzynka]

Also, haaaaaiiiiii again

[@ahanaroyc.1330]

Do you mean popping off?

[@CruzeeStar]

@@ahanaroyc.1330 no, but it means the same thing

[@CruzeeStar]

@@Kasiarzynka haiii

[@GodKnowsWhatIsInHere]

Guys, it doesn't matter if it would've stalemated or not. These players aren't masters, so it would've been easy to miss when something like that IS possible. Even though it wouldn't have stalemated anyway, the fact that 5up still stopped himself from trying to premove is just good practice.

[@jocelyncarlson8033]

ludwig had to walk so 5up could run

[@arcnet7941]

TBF He could've laddered and still get not check-mated

[@Dpm_2005]

FYI 5up wouldn't have stalemated as he was giving checks. He didn't risk it because he was quite nervous that he would make the same blunder.

[@dlaBerAuoY]

Ludwin wouldntve done that

[@negitivebike3169]

Hes done it before why not

[@blipie9137]

@@negitivebike3169 yup

[@ilexdiapason]

your joke went completely over the replys head lol

[@negitivebike3169]

@@ilexdiapason omg you're so right

[@negitivebike3169]

@@ilexdiapason he said Ludwin

[@cringestealer]

I love how not only some random streamers don't understand the logic of a ladder mate... but GM Hess and Andrea both also don't know how it works apparently according to that commentary

[@flame246848]

Andrea did, GM Hess didn’t

[@jackpabich763]

Why would 5up moving his queen up be bad? Wouldn't it still be checkmate the next turn?

[@bigbidnessborsalino]

yeah that's what i thought. because unlike ludwig, 5up gave checks

[@damiester1]

They're just exaggerating for content lol.

[@bigbidnessborsalino]

i still think it's always good practice to not premove your checkmate unless you're low on time...

[@mizuhonova]

Their point is there's no reason to risk it if you're way up on the clock.

[@williamwallace4080]

@@damiester1 or they're like 1/2seconds behind

[@anonymousn5292]

What was Hess worried about? A stalemate was impossible there

[@anonymousn5292]

@@yn849 how? It would have been check. King is on e2, Qhh2 is check and the king has to go to the first rank, then Qgg1 is checkmate. Literally impossible to stalemate here. The reason Ludwig's was a stalemate was that the king was ahead of both queens; Lud was moving his queens to the rank behind the one the king was on. 5up wasn't doing that

[@AnkhArcRod]

@@yn849 Kindly explain? King was getting checks all the way.

[@pr1ckastley]

@@yn849 love that confidence buddy

[@yn849]

@@pr1ckastley thanks 🥰

[@thepronoob1972]

@@yn849 why did ya delete what you said

[@santiagocaballero8289]

i dont understand there was no way for 5up to stalemate

[@BayleafUpHigh]

There was, if Lud’s king couldn’t move anywhere, but wasn’t in check, it would be a stalemate, if the queens blocked all ways of him moving, but he wasn’t in check, it would’ve ended in a draw

[@jaredhernandez6583]

Talking about 5up, not Ludwig. 5up’s opponent could’ve moved his king into the same stalemate position as Ludwig, but 5up gets to play because king was able to move. It’s an inevitable checkmate

[@BorutoUzumaki-kh7hj]

That was not the point... the point was to NOT risk premoving into checkmate if you're up on time, 5up has 6 minutes to spare.....

[@vivtakanamalaa]

@@BorutoUzumaki-kh7hj It's not a risk if it's all checks and you calculate

[@reshamarmaja2428]

I don't think it will be stalemate of sup7 and Sapnapchess game. It will be 5upp move(queen). So it wil be checkmate. In boxbox and ludwig game, it is boxbox move(king). So it is stalemate. Or did i see wrong

[@TheInkPages]

I don't understand this stalemate works. Can someone explain?

[@blnkdan]

It works because of how Lud positioned his Queens. Because both Queens were laddered on white, it mean that the King still had free reign to move on the green diagonal right between them, and put it in safely close enough to force a draw.

[@jackiechantz7594]

if the only piece you can move is the king (boxbox only had a king left), and the king is put in a position where it isn't in check, but any of the squares it could move to puts the king in check it is a forced draw since there is no legal moves boxbox could accomplish.

[@TheInkPages]

@@jackiechantz7594 Ah, I think I understand now. Thanks.

[@jackiechantz7594]

​@@TheInkPages np glad to help :)

[@MsMiDC]

@@TheInkPages A shorter explanation, the King is not in check, but has no legal move because it would put itself in check.

[@AnkhArcRod]

Was GM Hess high here? The king is in check every step of the way. The ladder works just fine here.

[@pr1ckastley]

Yep

[@CruzeeStar]

Haii

[@anai.7889]

Hiii

[@CruzeeStar]

@@anai.7889 hai

[@j4605]

Hihi

[@CruzeeStar]

@@j4605 hii