6,000 Square Foot ICF Roof!!!

[@michaelpettit1263]

Excellent. This is why we go to your pool and concrete workshops. An invaluable community of really nice people.

[@all3pools]

We are building a great community! How’s your project coming?

[@ToIsleOfView]

THANK YOU! Fire, flood, and wind damage are not discussed enough when we use ICF. Home insurance is becoming outrageous in cost. This construction needs NO home insurance. We just need to get the mortgage banks and insurance companies to create special exceptions for ICF homes.

[@BealyGood]

If I had built a rectangle house I'd be living in it already. Hindsight 20/20, lol.

[@all3pools]

Some dingle convinced himself that round ass architectural features were a great idea…. It will look killer when u get done! In 2031..;)

[@BealyGood]

@@all3pools😂

[@TashaOneal-l8h]

​@@BealyGood🤡

[@ToIsleOfView]

I wish we had a floor plan view. I wish we had a better look at the foundation. I wish you would use Helix Steel in a new ICF pour.

[@SolarTechFL]

I love my insul-deck roof

[@jameslovell8104]

Looks amazing!

[@joeykunz]

Great video thanks

[@carolinevanwinkle3755]

I adore ice roof. Detest wood messy tresses and interior

[@joeyoviedo5202]

Please do quick video on the general process/workflow from the perspective of a GC or owner-GC from deciding if an ICF roof is right in your case. A updated cost breakdown would be interesting as well. I am based in Arizona so I am curious if ICF roofs are worth it out here. Thank you so much for your videos and when I am ready for a pool kit I will def be giving you a call!

[@tynickel8174]

yes they would be - better in the HEAT they build em in Hawaii all the time

[@rockys7726]

Mechanical Engineers think alike. I'm an ME and building a passive solar ICF house too. 🤣

[@ghytd766]

Yes, I'm an engineer as well. Its going to sound like I'm being sarcastic but I love the thinking actually - "Xypex and crack control fibers" start with that and see if it leaks. If it leaks then TPO. I'm thinking about the same approach on a building. I like the way he thinks.

[@logoschristianacademy6044]

@@ghytd766 It leaked. I ended up rolling on a polyurethane roof myself (dilute epoxy sealer, two coats of aromatic polyurethane topped with one coat of Aliphatic polyurethane for UV resistance), because I didn't have to hire it out so it was cheaper, and because we want to be able to walk on it without harming the roofing. Since we installed the roofing, it hasn't leaked a bit!

[@gsteele5196]

on a project this size how come you aren't using fiberglass rebar

[@thomasarchambault9463]

Great question. I was thinking the same thing.👍

[@logoschristianacademy6044]

The walls have fiberglass rebar but my engineer was nervous to use it in the roof.

[@ghytd766]

@@logoschristianacademy6044 I love fiberglass rebar, but I wouldn't recommend putting it in a roof. Fiberglass creeps, steel does not. It is not a good product for pre-stress or the tension side of a beam. However, it certainly does have its place.

[@timothyhughes8409]

Hello Awesome video What waterproofing will you use, if any? Thanks

[@all3pools]

Tpo on the roof

[@FabFormIndustries]

Looks like the footings and walls were Monopoured!? How tall was the wall and footing pour?

[@all3pools]

Guessing 8’ above grade to 11 ish, done by the homeowner! He’s a big fan of your products, wonder why;)

[@logoschristianacademy6044]

@@all3pools Correct, from the finished floor it's about 8'4" on the low side, 11'0" on the high side. Monopoured.

[@logoschristianacademy6044]

Yep, monopoured. Low side is about 8'4" from finished floor, high side is about 11'0") from finished floor.

[@MattBell_USA]

@@logoschristianacademy6044 Any chance you can shre your floor plan? I really like this simple elevation!

[@davidmarshall3593]

What is the sq ft cost and R value for a roof like this? With ICF walls AND roof the thermal mass and sound deadening must be off the charts.

[@OregonBob1955]

No safety perimeter rails required during the pour? And didn’t see any sleeves for plumbing vents? Other then that, this looks awesome!

[@logoschristianacademy6044]

Sleeves for plumbing vents are through the walls. Fortunately, no one fell off the roof.

[@A8AWD]

What is the roof pitch on this? My current drawings have a 12-3 pitch on the roof because we were planning on doing standing seam, but now I'm pretty hot on ICF for the roof as well. In your opinion do you think 12-3 is too steep for concrete or should we reduce it a bit?

[@all3pools]

I would reduce it if it’s possible, 3/12 is asking a lot more of your concrete crew, meaning more guys more money and more chances of something going wrong, all that said 3/12 is possible just gonna be harder finding the labor!

[@logoschristianacademy6044]

32" in 40'. So like 0.8 in 12 or 6.67% slope. So far the water runs off it fine. Every day there are fewer drips as the Xypex reacts with the water. The whole roof is being watered down 5 times a day for over a week. Only one very small crack so far.

[@BradSmith-l8x]

Why don't people put a metal roof on top of the ICF roof to prevent leakage and water damage? Wouldn't that be a good safeguard?

[@all3pools]

It would be fine, it’s just way more expensive and difficult to attach than simply doing tpo, we’ve done it on the shaw hollow project, I’ve got videos on it, but standing seam is more expensive than tpo and in most cases you need to fir out the roof first or take significant steps to attach it to the concrete:). So we do it but the reasons are usually architectural, if waterproof is only desire tpo makes way more sense:)

[@sarahoceanhart8145]

You don't need to. A concrete roof won't leak. The metal roof would be a complete waste of money. That concrete roof, if poured correctly is fire resistant for hours, earthquake resistant, pest resistant, hurricane and tornado resistant. You can park a car on that roof if it's done correctly.

[@williammackey7243]

Anyone doing a 6:12 slope with BuildDeck?

[@all3pools]

No reason u couldn’t just considerably more difficult

[@Krazie-Ivan]

extremely interested in this build, & would love if Don would reach out! loads of similarities with my plans; simple rectangle, southern gain, calculated shade, fastfoot, fox block & window bucks, low-slope ICF roof. this is far larger, although i'm planning 4 separate dwelling designs (about 3,800sqft total), and 2 of them are 2-story. have some odd ideas/plans for semi-passive heating/cooling. i'm 3hrs from your plans in Angel Fire, Aaron... what's my chances of contracting with ya? lol

[@all3pools]

lol never know, Amish won’t go but Austin’s guys will! That said, 3 hrs which directions, I work with a great icf guy in Albuquerque who just started his first 2 pools, im going to be out there fairly soon!

[@Krazie-Ivan]

@@all3pools ...i'm currently still in Phx renovating this house, but our land is on the other side of the Sandias that border the East of Abq. very open to referrals (i'll need formal engi plans/prints for Sandoval county too)!

[@logoschristianacademy6044]

What do you want to know?

[@joeyoviedo5202]

@@logoschristianacademy6044 Hey, what an awesome build. Congrats. I am interested in doing something similarly designed as mentioned above by Ivan. Please do a follow up video with @cuttingedgehomes9251 at the next phase. Do you have any social medias where you are posting updates yourself? Would like to follow along. Also, could you share your ideas for your floorplan and maybe the dimensions of those massive windows and overall dimensions. Im guessing 40x150? But thanks and keep up the DIY it is pretty inspiring.

[@karthikbonthu]

how is this compared to TJI in terms of cost?

[@all3pools]

Considerably more, but no comparison in quality when going for net zero or passive home

[@karthikbonthu]

@@all3pools got it. I'm building rental multifamily and trying to figure out it makes sense to go this route. we will usually do TJI with insulation batts, resilient channel and double layer drywall.

[@michaelbohn4743]

I thought this was the garage You did

[@all3pools]

I linked it during the vid but this is a different project

[@engeneeringvehicle507]

This is a big House with big roof without pillars

[@all3pools]

Yes

[@JP-kb4yi]

Really need you to build my house. Left you a message.

[@michaelbohn4743]

Call him lol

[@JP-kb4yi]

@@michaelbohn4743 i left him a message

[@all3pools]

Where did I leave the message?

[@JP-kb4yi]

@@all3pools on you mobile VM on Friday.

[@JP-kb4yi]

@@all3pools correction Wednesday on your mobile VM

[@FEV369]

I do not like the idea of an ICF roof, like most things I think when you take things topo far, that thing becomes more and more ridiculous. The weight, the cost, the time, the problems all outweigh any benefit of just doing a metal roof with good insulation. For just the cost you could probably do 5+ metal roofs over and ICF roof... that's like 200+ years of a roof and the ICF roof will weather very poorly compared to the walls due to water/ice.

[@logoschristianacademy6044]

I do not like the idea of a wood roof. The susceptibility to fire, rot, termites, mold outweigh any benefit of a lower cost to me. The Xypex in the concrete and the polyurethane roof I ended up installing should mitigate almost all of the effects of water/ice.

[@FEV369]

​@logoschristianacademy6044 well I hope it works out for you, seems way to costly to me.