Mine is the Hammer Obsession Tour and starting to become the Hammer Envy Tour. My other choice in my bag is the Storm Night Road.
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
That Envy Tour is pretty sick. Black balls strike more!
@bagger3002 Жыл бұрын
Yes indeed!
@sargemajorlee Жыл бұрын
Original Game breaker 2 release is my benchmark. Still using it in 2023 and still putting up big numbers.
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with that!
@stephenlugarich4723 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been using my Brunswick Knockout Black/Blue as my benchmark ball, and have shot very well with it over the past two league seasons.
@justthetruth44 Жыл бұрын
Finally I found a video of a guy who bowls like me. This will make my search for my next ball so much easier. Look like are speed is similar and I am also no thumb. Our approach looks similar too so I will definitely be looking at your videos for my next ball. Thanks. My benchmark is the blue coral venom.
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
Glad to be of service!
@BARBELLS-AND-BUDS Жыл бұрын
The hyped solid and black venom really surprised me. I think I need to add one of those as a mid-range solid
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
Lots of great options!
@anthonymoore915 Жыл бұрын
Primal Shock at 2k has been the best benchmark option I've ever had.
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
That’s great to hear!
@BigHurt24 Жыл бұрын
Facts
@joequihuis1196 Жыл бұрын
Same here bro
@joewalker69318 ай бұрын
Just picked up the Primal Shock. Will throw it Wednesday. What other ball do you pair with it?
@Pac_man667 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Mine is the Brunswick Knockout Bruiser. It begrudgingly replaced my old Storm Rocket Ship. The Bruiser has been really good so far when I’m a little lost I can find my place pretty quickly with it.
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
That rocket ship was great! I’m glad you’ve found some luck with the Bruiser too!
@BlindStag Жыл бұрын
Great video, mine currently is an old motiv T10, hoping the black venom can replace it
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
That ball was a classic!
@JustChuck1t Жыл бұрын
Awesome video. It's very informative. Keep more of these coming.
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Chaz!
@thebigeasy8609 Жыл бұрын
Such good stuff Ben. I'm digging videos so much usable information and not fluff. Really makes educated guesses a bit easier. My "benchmark" ball is my Motiv Pride solid. That ball is amazing on the left side. It was my Black Widow 2.0 solid until I got the Pride. That new Motiv Black Venom looks good on the lanes and goegrous on the shelf. Thanks
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
The pride was totally underrated so I’m glad it’s getting some love!
@jeffladrillono2313 Жыл бұрын
Game Breaker 2 remake, pin down, is my benchmark ball. Really smooth motion that reads the midlane and is forgiving on fresh house shots.
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
Did you have an OG? Do you see a difference?
@jeffladrillono2313 Жыл бұрын
@@bowlersparadise2255 I never had an OG GB2 but I had a kentucky GB3 and the GB3 cover was quite stronger but wore out faster. I find the B7 covers more durable than the kentucky ebi stuff
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
I would agree with that mostly. I think part of it is just the improvement tine provides and also a ball to ball issue but the Mexico stuff is better than expected
@joerivanderkamp7280 Жыл бұрын
Game breaker 2 is also my benchmark bal. Really happy with it
@JoeBrrFan Жыл бұрын
Today I bought the Hammer Ocean Vibe. Your vid helped me decide. Though I left it "out of the box" coverstock. First three games: 623. It is my new benchmark. I can go from right to left and it is great.
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
Glad to have helped bud!
@sdavisbassman Жыл бұрын
I'm still struggling with my Vibe, bought the Purple Hammer Reactive, out the box 299... highest I can get with the Vibe, 223 so far...
@JoeBrrFan Жыл бұрын
@@sdavisbassman Did you leave it stock cover or did you take his advice and go to a 4000 grit? You might try it. I have had a few 240+ games but missed a few chances for better. I left mine stock, then it got caught in the machine and had a groove ground into it. Had the pro shop fix the best they could and put a 4000 grit to her. 230 is pretty regular now. But I know I can do better. I have issues with the 10th frame. Mind games get me more than my ball lets me down.
@trae19653 ай бұрын
Ben--being that Brunswick has retired the Knockout Bruiser, what similar options might you recommend here in August 2024?
@dungeonsanddrinking1265 Жыл бұрын
Great video and insightful break down of each ball. Well done!
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Happy yo have helped!
@lsshewolf Жыл бұрын
Great video, My start ball is the Track Archetype as it gives me the time lines I need during transitions.
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
See, that's what I'm saying. You know what you need, and that's what you go to. I know I couldn't use a ball that strong, but that's ok! The right answer is the one that makes the most sense to you!
@michaelkoch603 Жыл бұрын
I have the black venom currently and find that it’s just too strong(2 handed 13-14mph). I think i’m gonna pick up the blue coral venom in hopes it will get down lane better and not hook so early
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
Maybe the Supra rally with some surface?
@michaelkoch603 Жыл бұрын
@@bowlersparadise2255 I hadn’t considered that but that could also be a great option. Hadn’t looked at it mostly cause I love the gear core and the gear apg but the rg and diff numbers look great. Thank you
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
You're welcome! Let me know how it goes if that's what you decide!
@harm319 Жыл бұрын
I use the Purple Reactive by Hammer or the Hammer Raw Hybrid. The Purple Reactive is perfect for the center I bowl at, light oil so burns up quick.
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
Glad you've found some pieces you enjoy!
@zoinkshaggy Жыл бұрын
My benchmark ball is the Track Stealth. I just like the way it rolls for me and really trust the motion it provides.
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
That’s all you can ask out of a benchmark! Glad you have one that works for you!
@kellymcmanaway4069 Жыл бұрын
I've been using the Jackal Ambush as my benchmark ball for league, and the Trident Nemesis for game 3. I'm a lefty and not to many other lefties on my leagues.
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
That’s a lot of ball! But the key is trust, so if it works for you, it works for me!
@kellymcmanaway4069 Жыл бұрын
I was using the Forge Flare for a few seasons, but it seems to have died on me.
@kellymcmanaway4069 Жыл бұрын
And I have an older Venom Recoil and that has died out on me as well.
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately they do that. It’s an imperfect game but at least the next ones are almost always better
@jeffmunoz9737 Жыл бұрын
I had the venom shock as my benchmark for a while. Moved to a hammer scorpion in the PAL layout.
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
Box surface on the scorpion?
@ObjectiveEthics Жыл бұрын
I have also been starting with the Scorpion Hybrid and then move left with the Sting as the lanes burn up. Often times I can stay in the Scorpion Hybrid all three games. Box finish on all so far but I am considering roughing up the Sting a little and see how that rolls.
@mariansowinski8967 Жыл бұрын
Any benchmark recommendations for low speed, low rev bowler?
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
Mild asyms like the black venom or the envy tour.
@babydriver6860 Жыл бұрын
Hey Ben, Very nice video and explanation for each Benchmark ball. Thank you for doing this video and doing the usually uncommon and often frowned upon cross brand video. Great work.
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@Jackal_Blitz Жыл бұрын
Hey Ben, I remember in your Forge Ember review that you said you thought it would make a good benchmark piece. What do you like about the Black Venom over the Forge Ember? The BV looks quite a bit more eager to get off the spot and charge up to the pins; the Forge Ember looks a lot more relaxed and easy to control (to my eyes anyway).
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
Versatility. Ember is good at one thing, black venom is good at many things.
@daryldettmer91608 ай бұрын
I like to try a stonger asym solid to start out but if that doesn't work i like the Motive Venom Shock
@richardgandia5700 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been using the Quantum Evo Hybrid to tell whether I go up to a solid or down to a pearl
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
I like it. It’s definitely a stronger piece but it’s a pretty even reaction overall.
@richardgandia5700 Жыл бұрын
I just want you to know that I watch all your videos I truly feel your presentation and complete knowledge is very influential to me and my game, especially that I’m a senior bowler with a lower revs and speed
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Richard! I really appreciate that! I’m so happy to help.
@davidscriba9280 Жыл бұрын
Hammer Tour Envy on fresh 60 x 4.5 x 35 1000 grit. Then Black Venom 65 x 5 x 30 1500 grit with a light shine for transition. What can I say? I like pocket control.
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
Clearly! If all 10 fall over, that's all that matters!
@ryanreid5859 Жыл бұрын
🐐 benchmark ball. Phaze 2 or IQ tour. Used to be the web tour
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
All three are pretty great
@oofbagels Жыл бұрын
Right now my current benchmark is the Blue Coral Venom but I'm getting the Black Venom, should I switch my benchmark over to the Black Venom since it's a solid?
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
You won’t know until you throw it. Benchmark is more about trust than being “right” or “wrong”
@GracieGarage Жыл бұрын
I only use 2 balls. And, they could both be considered benchmark. The Columbia Explosion. I use this in league. It matched up real well where I bowl. And, when the explosion is not enough. The Cuda. This ball is just incredible!
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it, right?
@Bloodth3Butcher Жыл бұрын
For a tournament arsenal, would a lot of people consider the Black Venom an option to use on mid to heavy oil patterns? I feel like it's used more for dry by the pros, not exactly a first ball out of the bag kind of thing. Please correct me if I'm wrong haha.
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
I would never consider what the pros do on tour conditions to build my own arsenal. What they bowl on, no one else does. A benchmark is a benchmark regardless of volume. If you know it well and trust it, that’s really all you need.
@Bloodth3Butcher Жыл бұрын
@@bowlersparadise2255 Got it. More of a ball you use most, etc....instead of an actual mid-heavy oil ball you switch from often, right?
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
Yeah. There's balls that are designed for greater or less volumes of oil, but you can use just about anything on any volume if your game allows for it. Just find the one you know does what you want it to do most often and work from there.
@billv9066 Жыл бұрын
My Stealth solid is mine. It's strong but predictable. That is my "reader". I know that the reaction I get will tell me if I can move and stay with it, or if I need to go to a different core, cover or both. I know that ball WELL. It never lies.
@twash19 Жыл бұрын
Great video! I like my Motiv Blue Coral Venom and Ebonite Envision Pearl. One hand thumbless 14 to 15 mph.
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
Have you hit your blue coral with surface at all?
@twash19 Жыл бұрын
@@bowlersparadise2255 It's at 4000 and polished.
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
Gotcha. I saw mine as a little speed sensitive which is the only reason I asked. Glad you enjoy it!
@wazzylamit4798Ай бұрын
New to bowling, should i grab Black Venom or Venom Shock?
@bowlersparadise2255Ай бұрын
The venom shock is probably the perfect bowling ball for beginner bowlers.
@joehoenig7596 Жыл бұрын
Great vid, Ben...thank you! Personally, I use my Storm IQTour as my benchmark, although if I know my league pattern, I will typically start with my Storm Phaze II and switch to the IQ Tour when I need smoother shape during transition or burn. Two questions though: First, why didn't you choose the IQ Tour in this vid, when it is known to be a benchmark ball? Second, you briefly mentioned "...as the IQ Tour used to be." Could you please elborate on what you meant? Thank you, Joe
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
To answer question 1, I didn’t have one on hand lol. To answer question 2, the R2S solid cover used to be one of the strongest covers you could buy, now it’s one of the weakest. Technology has advanced a lot in the last 10 years, and the way I would use an iQ tour today is different from how I would have at time of release. But also, stay tuned… more on the iQ and more is coming.
@raymah7 Жыл бұрын
Pitch black is my go to ball, hustle camo after that
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
Urethane right away! Your league team might not like that lol
@kellymcmanaway4069 Жыл бұрын
The Venom Recoil is my benchmark ball.
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
Great option!
@HmongBond007 Жыл бұрын
Still using the Hammer Bad Intentions as my benchmark. Can't seem to find a good consistent "benchmark" asym for my high-tilt, high-rotation throw (it maybe the indian, not the arrow, but blaming the arrow means having more equipment lol). In the honeymoon phase with the Jackal Ambush, it's ok for now but is not at the Bad Intentions level yet for me.
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
Have you tried an Envy or Envy Tour?
@HmongBond007 Жыл бұрын
@@bowlersparadise2255 I have not tried the Envy or Envy Tour. I looked at the Envy Tour but decided to get the Jackal Ambush. May have to be a ball ho and get the Envy Tour for the next winter league. Thanks for the info!
@HmongBond007 Жыл бұрын
BTW, your ball reviews are awesome and super insightful. Definitely appreciate how you break down what bowlers might fit certain balls rather than saying everything is awesome lol. Keep up the great work. You've been my #1 go-to source for ball reviews.
@darrelmurphy4930 Жыл бұрын
Still using the Hammer Dark Legend solid.
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
If you know what works for you, nothing wrong with that
@P.vieRa_YT Жыл бұрын
Thoughts on track stealth?
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
I never threw one myself, but everyone I've seen throw it loves it. The shape is one of the better ones and if I was looking for a benchmark, i'd certainly consider it.
@carlosandresguerra3690 Жыл бұрын
I have as bench mark my black widow 2.0 I really love it I paired whit a zen gold label the I really really love too , now the trickiest question is what can I pair those 2 whit ?
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
I'd go with a weaker asym like an envy tour or envy tour pearl, a 900 global eternity, Roto Grip tour dynamix or a motiv black venom.
@carlosandresguerra3690 Жыл бұрын
@@bowlersparadise2255 thank you sr those are great choices I really like the eternity I appreciate your time and I love your channel thanks again !!
@40beretta111 ай бұрын
My bench mark ball; Brunswick System Alpha.
@stormb28 Жыл бұрын
Reality Check, good from straight, good in the track, good in. Enough cover strength and core.
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
I love that ball.
@nickwilkerson4950 Жыл бұрын
What’s your thoughts on the black widow hybrid 2.0?
I’m a 2 hander and wanted a phaze 2 really bad but I think I’m going to get a trouble maker instead
@MrPottsTeaching Жыл бұрын
The Cuda-C from 1998. That Thing is a Strike monster If I can get to it. If it doesnt get to tha pocket Ball up. If it checks up too hard!!! Ball down!!! ;D
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
That’s kinda awesome if I’m being honest.
@joshuapaugh8271 Жыл бұрын
What else would be good for high axis rotation
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
I tend to like the slightly asym stuff for higher axis rotation bowlers so, something solid with a .008-.013 Int diff.
@joshuapaugh8271 Жыл бұрын
@Bowlers Paradise when I started hooking a ball it was with a house ball and I still come around the side of the ball 30 years later, my iq tour now takes an immediate left when it sees friction
@joshuapaugh8271 Жыл бұрын
@Bowlers Paradise what type of core would you recommend for a late hook ball for high axis rotation
@stepsonsmoak238 Жыл бұрын
Track stealth is my benchmark
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
Awesome. Lots of people have had a lot of success with that one. I'm glad its working for you!
@adamnewcomer375411 ай бұрын
Use the Hyped myself
@aaroncardenas8425 Жыл бұрын
I am currently using a Track Heat. I am looking at possibly switching to aGB2
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
Both great options!
@skeeterkise-fh4ep Жыл бұрын
My go-to ball is the gem
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with that! I love both my gems.
@acecan6475 Жыл бұрын
I use the blue hammer
@royrogge835 Жыл бұрын
Been using the Radical Crypto as benchmark but also started using the Big Foot hybrid as benchmark
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
I used my crypto so much it wore out!
@808whitefa5 Жыл бұрын
Hyped Solid. For me.
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
Love that ball
@ericpadilla2454 Жыл бұрын
Hyped solid is the new phaze 2 so thats been my bench ball as of lately
@ericpadilla24546 ай бұрын
@@crazycajunj1703 yup
@MLBOWLER Жыл бұрын
iQ tour... since comes out. already drill 20 of those. same layout.
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
Nice!
@ethanethanvanderslik1838 Жыл бұрын
What happened to the benchmark ball the phase 2?
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
Nothing?
@ethanethanvanderslik1838 Жыл бұрын
@@bowlersparadise2255 good very good lol
@djsasquatch5360 Жыл бұрын
Dv8 troublemaker
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
Great choice!
@michaelfinley9988 Жыл бұрын
Primal Shock for me.
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
That’s a solid choice
@scottkeenan3214 Жыл бұрын
What you're saying an asymmetrical can be a benchmark
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
I don’t see why not
@jamesmykel7713 Жыл бұрын
My benchmark ball is my pbs planet earth.
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
Cool 👍
@Elev.8__ Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say verge solid is a benchmark that ball is huuuge
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
You probably should avoid the hellcat then. That thing is a monster
@zoh1032 Жыл бұрын
OG idol
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
Classic
@itzkatz95069 ай бұрын
Where phaze 2
@ic3rr3s83 Жыл бұрын
Phase 2
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
Classic
@ic3rr3s83 Жыл бұрын
@@bowlersparadise2255 I love that ball, it fits my game really well.
@joelramos4301 Жыл бұрын
Pin down track stealth
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with that!
@Cartel336 Жыл бұрын
IQ Tour
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
Classic
@Dor3yon Жыл бұрын
No way you didn’t mention the ebonite GB2
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
I don’t have one. I never said these are the ONLY good ones, their just good options.
@vinny702 Жыл бұрын
No phaze2?? Best benchmark ball ever and its not in the video smh......ur opinion has become nullified
@bowlersparadise2255 Жыл бұрын
Cool. Thanks for your helpful input Vinny. You’re doing great work.