Boeing whistleblowers reveal years of concerns over airplane parts | 60 Minutes

[@USA-zr9zy]

Put those men in witness protection!!!

[@edithboozy1000]

Soooooo original

[@SonofStormblessed]

Beat me to it.

[@patfromamboy]

Exactly, whistleblowers are attacked in the U.S. because the wealthy corporations run things instead of we the people.

[@Chilax]

But why they only going to have an….. accident

[@frankthespank]

Witness protection is messed up… not like in the movies. They put them out in the middle of nowhere and with none of the money or job they were promised. Many times they say F it and resume their previous identities and take the risk.

[@CassFilms]

All jokes aside, this took some bravery to go on camera

[@spdcrzy]

He was sweating like crazy. Dude's blood pressure had to be through the roof throughout the entire interview. MAJOR props.

[@jlvandat69]

Most people will gladly 'go on camera' to gather the fame points, and potential profits, e.g., book sales. Plus, there's never been a proven case where a whistleblower at Boeing has been harmed as a result. Basically, there's little downside but significant potential upside, so the decision comes down to the person's values and integrity.

[@shanecoleman7114]

Especially for ANYTHING 60 minutes when they love to tell false stuff and edit out things lmfao 🤣

[@Coolcarting]

I guess the huge amount of money paid to him was just too tempting!

[@andrewallen9993]

@@shanecoleman7114 Like the Audi moving forward by itself?

[@helloxjosh7473]

“We investigated ourselves and have found that we are doing nothing wrong.”

[@cat-in-the-woods]

Sounds like Israel!

[@lovely-mk4rt]

Sounds like the police

[@JohnDoe-yi9rm]

The israelis or U.S. war crimes?

[@superbwater78]

Sounds like the Pentagon

[@forgofire5583]

Dodgy 🤣🤣

[@ms.keeton2884]

That was a hit. Getting between people and their money is deadly.

[@orionxtc1119]

DEI has destoyed Boeing

[@ladofthelakes]

@@orionxtc1119what is bro yapping about

[@VanillaMacaron551]

Chatted at length to a US pilot soon after Barnett's death. He said industry ppl thought Boeing did it.

[@ladofthelakes]

@@metfish Explain to me what you think DEI is exactly

[@metfish]

@@ladofthelakes kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZrGnY2BmKilbsksi=p72CnxEFPgxDVPui

[@theferalbaker]

Boeing absolutely put a hit out on him.

[@SkyBear0509]

Ok Alex Jones

[@PhysicalEntity]

@@SkyBear0509Oh you sweet summer child

[@1ChuckO]

​@SkyBear0509 Apparently you are not familiar with the history of whistle blowers against Boeing. It's similar to the Clinton family.

[@RustyShackleford66]

No no, I'm sure it was just an very unfortunate coincidence.

[@donstrader]

Yeah, no one ever gets offed when billions of dollars are on the line

[@Seanpfree]

This attitude and behavior is not unique to Boeing... Boeing is just the largest company that's been revealed. It is rampant throughout our entire economy where elite execs only goal is making the maximum amount of money for themselves as quickly as they can before moving on.

[@Lynn-uf4ip]

They just want to "polish their own and the company's apples" and make everyone look good.

[@tapio_m6861]

This is also a failure of the FAA because they really should have systems in place that would prevent such a massive systematic negligence. It shouldn't be up to the airplane maker to check whether planes are safe to fly. FAA should keep close taps on what is going on inside these plants.

[@feelincrispy7053]

“It’s profits for the shareholders” 😂 yeah right

[@-fz1yg]

I agree. I worked for 30 years for one of the big three automakers. People would be amazed at what goes on.

[@PurcellAdam]

Really bad incentives.

[@mercuryredstone2235]

I hope someone is keeping them safe.

[@Optim40]

omg can we stop with the safe word already.

[@-Batman-]

Tell that to the two people that got unalived 😑🤦‍♂️​@@Optim40

[@edithboozy1000]

​@Optim40 "somebody protect this man" 🙄

[@angelikalindenau943]

Don't count on anyone in the incoming administration.

[@Optim40]

@@edithboozy1000 Oh 1000 huh ? A little better but we still sound like we walk around being afraid of our own shadows.

[@LogansTrail]

As someone who has worked in quality and attended these type of meetings, everything that was said in this video is 100% true. It’s not only Boeing, it’s happening in almost every company across America. At the end of the day, the managers of a company will do shady things to meet their production numbers. It only becomes a problem when the customer identifies a defect and in a lot of cases it’s near impossible unless a failure happens while under load. It’s up to the manufacturer to do the right thing. They should face stiff fines and there should be laws against what these managers are doing, jail time should be on the table, especially when it comes to something as serious as flying.

[@Pan_Galactic_Gargle_Blaster]

Boeing will be the case study to see if American companies can get their balls out of the vise of shareholders. Frankly, if Boeing fails, I believe most similar companies will follow suit. If America continues to enshrine shareholder primacy, we are simply choosing to revoke our own status as a superpower.

[@powdertrax9742]

I was there 33 years and had to retire ten years early, that place was literally killing me. If you have any morals or care about doing a quality job, Boeing is not for you. You try and try and try to fix ongoing issues and no one cares, you will be labeled a “disgruntled employee”. They are all speaking the truth, the majority won’t speak up they’re talentless and lazy, they like that it’s a mess so they get their weekly overtime, for a maxed grade 4 mechanic two weekends on one check equates to approximately $2500 (two Saturdays and two Sunday’s). They can’t fix boeing without firing the majority of the mngrs and at least 50% of the mechanics

[@LogansTrail]

A Quality department will also purposely lack in passing parts on hold in a timely manner because of dealing with repetitive NOK parts over time. That falls on the quality manager and those who purchase and deal with the suppliers. However, It sounds to me that the standard of Boeing has diminished A LOT over the decades, which is not a positive thing since aircraft failures are usually fatal. Speaking out against Boeing after the recent incidents is the right thing to do.

[@Georgina602]

Fines? Prison would be the Only thing that would work.

[@georgehanson2978]

Yes. But we know white collar crime pays.

[@moereese5254]

A self inflicted gunshot wound?! That was obviously a hit.

[@stachowi]

1000% they had him killed.

[@marcmcreynolds2827]

See the comment elsewhere "Hotel surveillance recorded him going to his car alone where he took his own life. No other vehicle or person was ever observed approaching the vehicle until after the incident."

[@matthewwillis2135]

​@marcmcreynolds2827 they never alter footage or threatened his family I'm sure lol

[@marcmcreynolds2827]

Well that's the conceit of conspiracy assumers*, isn't it? As long as you can imagine something which aligns with your prejudice, it can be assumed true. Then "lol" to anyone not afflicted with your flawed, biased reasoning. * "theorist" would be giving them way too much credit, given the sloppy thinking involved.

[@bobbybrush7185]

Of course his family was threatened. The man intentionally said he was not suicidal.

[@vaels5682]

Thanks 60 mins for providing the hard hitting reporting American workers deserve

[@korbindallas4552]

Tge worst part of this videos is they keep saying "some employees pulled the bad parts out of parts jail for reuse." The employees didn't do it of their own volition. They did it because they were told to do it by management.

[@DaveSpike-xz5fy]

60 mins is the equivalent of state media and even a broken clock is right twice a day. I doubt they will push any harder on this

[@vaels5682]

@@DaveSpike-xz5fy better than some "clocks" which are intentionally always trying to deceive you

[@HHSGDFootballJPD]

​@DaveSpike-xz5fy How is 60 Minutes the equivalent of state media?

[@realnapster1522]

Unfortunately nobody will be held accountable. Boeing is too big and important and they pay off all the politicians.

[@gary2smooth]

DO NOT LET COMPANIES REGULATE THEMSELVES

[@markhopper4600]

Profit over safety....

[@JYDIVISN]

A recent theme amongst corporations these days.

[@peregrino9154]

The American way.

[@StarDust-vm1qs]

Profits over PEOPLE - Is the American way.

[@donelson52]

When McDonnell-Douglas execs took over, and were rewarded by share price, safety became a joke

[@cspdx11]

Definitely the turning point

[@chrislesley7148]

Absolutely..that was when everything changed to pure profit driven

[@kevina4140]

All CEOs are now rewarded by share price now. It is the natural progression of doomsday capitalism.

[@marcmcreynolds2827]

It must be true, since I've read this a thousand times on the internet (typically by people who weren't there, repeating from the last person who said it). Meanwhile, fatality rates for airliner travel have fallen to right around one-tenth of what they were back in that time period, even as the system has become more and more strained. No joke.

[@SkandiaAUS]

​@@marcmcreynolds2827 yeah exactly I gloss over these comments.

[@friedchicken1]

I work in aviation in Italy and our national organization here mandates that the parts that are to be scrapped are mutilated in such a way that it is impossible for them to be installed and used again, not just marked with red paint, that's not an approved mean of compliance

[@commentsarefree4311]

The FAA is partly to blame. They allowed Boeing to do their own certification and sign off, which should have been done by the (independent) FAA. Time and cost pressure from head office meant safety was compromised (and covered up). I will not fly anywhere in a Boeing plane.

[@ljacobs357]

Trump signed executive orders requiring the FAA to reduce oversight.

[@cspdx11]

Politicians that report to Boeing control FAA

[@justwantresults8768]

Congress is to blame for this. Budget cuts drove FAA to allow way too much 'self-certify' and DER authority to be done by Boeing to keep their production line moving. Like the IRS, adequately funding the FAA serves the public interest much better than harassing civil servants (sound familiar much?)

[@reneesimerale]

If you think other companies aren't doing this...c'mon. Learning this,it's like rolling the dice. Look what they did to the whistleblower,do you really think he killed himself??

[@marcmcreynolds2827]

@@reneesimerale See the comment elsewhere "Hotel surveillance recorded him going to his car alone where he took his own life. No other vehicle or person was ever observed approaching the vehicle until after the incident."

[@TheRob2D]

You don't just "lose" 42 rudders........ Multiple people know where and when those were moved.

[@mariposamoreno]

this makes me literally sick to my stomach…faulty parts going BACK to these planes???? horrific

[@aftabmohammedify]

There was a Jazeera News Network investigative piece on an insider in Boeing. Parts of which featured on John Oilivers Last Week Tonight. Do watch both of them.

[@randomized4266]

Boeing killed him.

[@SkyBear0509]

Ok Alex Jones

[@sayitwithhellhounds]

If that is true, why would they wait until the last day of his deposition, when most of his testimony and his documentation were on the record already? I think the 60 Minutes report would have emphasized his death being suspect if there were reason to believe it is. His family suggests the case took a grave toll on him.

[@SkyBear0509]

@@sayitwithhellhounds there are many Alex Jones juniors in this country who would believe in anything they see

[@donstrader]

Yep, no one ever gets murdered when billions of dollars are on the line

[@DaveP-uv1ml]

The reason why I don’t think he was killed is because there has to be a motive for it, and there was no motive to do so in this case, as the man had already disclosed everything that he knew to the attorney. All he was doing was showing up to give official recorded testimony on the information that the attorney already have that’s what depositions are for. It’s not actually a time to reveal anything new. People go into depositions only after being rehearsed and going over that with their attorneys so everything known is already known by the attorney so they would’ve killed him for nothing. There would’ve been no gain for it.

[@evanmurphey]

These guys are literally putting their lives on the line

[@LinuxGalore]

Too many companies demand ever cheaper prices from suppliers, this results with many suppliers bowing out due to low returns. What suppliers are left are very volatile and unreliable.

[@Sjalabais]

That's a hugely important point. Why does Boeing have supply issues? Continuous downward pressure is an obvious result. It's not unique to Boeing either. Mid-aught Mercedes-Benz rusted like nothing else on the road because they pressured their suppliers too hard. You get the quality you pay for.

[@maxmeier532]

Mechanics at Boeing apparently are building planes the same way I assemble my IKEA furniture.

[@HughesEnterprises]

IKEA furniture has better easier to follow build instructions

[@je7887]

Funny, but true and sad!

[@Simonesanderss]

Omg 😂 that was the best line!!!! So comical and yet so true

[@ericclaptonsrobotpilot7276]

60 Minutes too cowardly to even mention what everyone knows: Boeing murdered that whistleblower.

[@Smithcraft1]

It's not an issue of being cowardly, it's a legal liability that without evidence such a claim Boeing would have a libel claim against 60 minutes.

[@LoisAGrimm]

Libel and slander laws exist for a reason. While I *fully* believe John Barnett's death was a hit job, we don't have the evidence to say so in a public space such as on the news. That's not cowardice.

[@kracusomniax3933]

Cause they can get sued. It sucks but that's the law

[@kracusomniax3933]

At least they are talking about it, grow up

[@philoctetes_wordsworth]

Three. They have killed 3 whistleblowers-allegedly.

[@brucewayne-ej3cx]

These guys been dropping like flies. Protect this man.

[@BlackHawk287]

Sadly, America is more worried about protecting men in women’s sports.

[@railgap]

I hope the surviving ones all have very good security. A buddy of mine was a whistleblower. The big aerospace defense contractor didn't have him killed, but they did destroy his career and prevent him from receiving the pension he'd earned. That crushed his spirit.

[@Darren...son4634]

Lost faith in Boeing

[@theothertonydutch]

Wow, what a take

[@sterlinghawk_g20]

Guess what Airbus is the same

[@billpugh58]

Many people all over the world see Boeing as having destroyed its once excellent name. And to the people on here saying Airbus is the same, give comparable examples of retract your lies.

[@RoWiBa]

These dude have balls. Boeing got those Luigi Mangiones on speed dial.

[@dagmarfrerking2235]

Luigi Mangione killed a CEO, not a whistleblower.

[@slimeeeeeeeeeeeaz]

“how would you clean it” “cleaner” 😂😂

[@joeozzie1]

Thanks for addressing this issue!

[@SteveninTune]

Actually probably not addressed

[@leokimvideo]

This story really has you rethinking getting on any Boeing jet that was made during Covid. But we all know Boeing wasn't the only company being affected by supply chain issues during Covid. If you see anything with a build date of between 2020 and 2022 maybe it's best to avoid it like the plague, no pun intended.

[@KernelFault]

I worked at Boeing for a few years before COVID. I was in the research area. None of this is surprising to me.

[@Maha-gx4zm]

when ceo dont go to jail .this is what happens

[@notsosuavemate]

Because they are probably Political donors

[@christophergagliano2051]

I worked for Boeing for a couple years in their engineering department and I'm telling you there is no doubt corners were being cut left and right. I worked on the 747-8 and the 787 program. My supervisor had to keep apologizing for the lack of integrity in the engineering department and we saw the 737 Max issues two years before those crashes. As a matter of fact one of my college roommates had no clue about aerospace engineering basics but he got his degree and he was a key player on the 737 max debacle. Interesting enough he retired 6 months after the first crash

[@Sjalabais]

Now is there any way to identify faulty parts on planes that are in service, say, if the parts number is identifiable and on record for being marked defective?

[@christophergagliano2051]

@Sjalabais interesting enough, it's not faulty parts that brought down the 737 max jets, And it was faulty parts that allowed the door to blow off the Alaskan airplane airliner. These are all management deficiencies. I could only remember one instance we're a faulty part caused a fatality and of course most aviation accents are due to pilot error or should I say crew error

[@jkberner]

Key player? How do we know? Give us some information that this is true.

[@christophergagliano2051]

@@jkberner if I remember right there was an article in aviation week magazine and this person was named as part of the team (VP Engineering 737 Max) working on the MCAS system and it was noted that he retired shortly after the investigations we're undertaking. Now this was a bright guy and his math skills were above average in college but he certainly lacked some understanding when it came to The actual physics of flight. This is not that unusual A lot of people don't understand that physics is what makes airplanes fly correctly.

[@jkberner]

@@christophergagliano2051 Provide us the article and I'll believe it.

[@somebody9785]

If it's Boeing I ain't going 💀

[@powdertrax9742]

After 33 years there, that is a definite for me

[@JunitafluxcyfatriciaJunita]

Parts that should last 10 years to last 3 years

[@lagodifuoco313]

Justice for John Barnett.

[@withtheeye]

In addition to the door explosion, please be sure to mention the two 737Max crashes killing hundreds of people. This is systematic.

[@ImmersiveGamingLLC]

One of the few real journalistic outlets left

[@DeborahParrish-z1h]

Depends on the subject.

[@Sacrederb]

Managers fighting over parts, because if the plane doesn't move on schedule, no move "Bonuses" for the managers. Simple greed.

[@FloridaFrank2010]

Being a whistleblower at Boeing has a very high 'unaliving' rate right after raising concerns, so hope this new batch is staying safe.

[@manumr4644]

The a350 at the end killed me😂😂

[@josephpak4277]

Samee! Was just about to ask if anyone noticed 😆

[@robytar]

Every one step Airbus takes forward is five steps backwards for boeing. Have a feeling in ten yrs. Airbus will be making 90% of the worlds commercial A/C. Boeing will still be "trying" to get the KC-46A working then too.

[@thatrandomchannel8589]

Ewww I hope you have a life insurance policy. These people been dropping off in the middle of the investigations. One got shot in his truck and they never found the killer.

[@thatrandomchannel8589]

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[@thatrandomchannel8589]

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[@exempligratia101]

Why speak about conspiracy theories when there is no evidence of anyone shooting him when there was surveillance footage of John Barnett not being shot by anyone outside his truck? Unbelievable how gullible people are…

[@Raging.Geekazoid]

Man, that's some Soviet-style corruption: pulling parts off of built trucks and tractors in the yard so the factory can keep up with its production quotas, and liquidating anyone who gets in the way.

[@80patrizio]

If employees no longer have confidence in the products they produce, this is a sign that the end of the company is imminent.

[@casperthegm741]

Isn't a big part of the problem due to the fact that Boeing, at least until now, has essentially been allowed to "self certify" their own work, with minimal oversight? We saw how that worked out for the financial industry.

[@AdrianJamaal]

That’s not suicide. They murdered John Barnett.

[@exempligratia101]

Where’s the proof?

[@jasonlax2102]

😂😂😂😂​@@exempligratia101

[@yesterdaze114]

America is beyond saving.

[@jayjayconcordeconcorde9529]

Yeah, the party is over.

[@jenniferc218]

​@jayjayconcordeconcorde9529 yes, then add further deregulation & we're really in trouble. Strap in, folks

[@dustyrose9729]

Trump basically dismantling all dereg​ulation truly keeps me up at nught because it affects all areas of life and could strike anywhere. @jenniferc218

[@exempligratia101]

And the American oligarchs will rip our money from our bloodied cold hands…without a single F given…

[@propbraker]

When are these ceos going to go to jail?

[@outlaw4a]

They won't. But this is a new America and a new way of dealing with things. Just ask UHC Healthcare.

[@eoll6322]

Never. The justice system is a sham and the people who have the power to haul these scumbags in are all on the market to the highest bidder.

[@derekdreke4990]

Never

[@vipahman]

I avoid Boeing aircraft as much as possible: 737 Max (never), 737 (avoid if possible), 787 (yes until 15 years old), 777 (yes), 767 (yes), 757 (yes).

[@DandaFundas]

That puts southwest out of business

[@WalkrFilms]

Lol these aircraft have thousands upon thousands of flights a day with out issue for decades. You’re insane and buying into media sensationalism.

[@chromebomb]

Yea I'm basically only on an airbus or 777

[@mikethemechanic7395]

Before Covid. Left my career as a Diesel mechanic to work for Percision cast parts. Made aircraft engine parts. Lots of parts were made at the end of the specs that were considered acceptable. Boeing got thousands off for each part out of range. I Was laid off when Covid hit. Heard lot of stories about shady issues. Went back to my past field of work.

[@caseyziegler1211]

Please remind me to never fly on a Boeing airplane.

[@analienfromouterspace]

That's like 90% of US airliners...

[@Simonesanderss]

Omg the fact that they go to the “trash” to pick up defective parts because they are desperate to continue the assembly is scary and disgusting

[@gregoryfuzi4745]

Had a buddy that worked for Boeing aircraft company in California his whole life before retirement his name was Len Ripley. Used to fish with him every day love the old man miss him a lot.

[@brokiezz]

The thing is, Alaska knew there was something wrong with that aircraft. They chose to keep the aircraft in service despite knowing

[@Tamara-qd5dc]

After Alaska Airline incident I started looking for the flights on non-Boeing planes. But often it is not possible.

[@AtulBhatia]

In the US, maybe… globally, its quite different.

[@jojothetasmaniansassmonkey8866]

for domestic flights, Spirit, Frontier, Jetblue and Breeze are all non-Boeing airlines that only operate Airbus and Embraer aircraft.

[@jojothetasmaniansassmonkey8866]

@@AtulBhatia its not that hard to aviod Boeing in the US if you really want to. We have 4 fairly substantial airlines that don't use any Boeing jets.

[@dmcr9525]

@@AtulBhatiaThat is not accurate. Boeings reach is global. You wont find any major airline that does not have their planes. Low-cost airlines are a different thing.

[@mashy712]

@@jojothetasmaniansassmonkey8866Delta is also Airbus.

[@zRamses]

Multiple managers with teams competing over parts and deadlines is INSANE. Especially in the commercial aircraft industry. I'm actually mind blown.

[@RussoGolf]

Not surprised about Boeing cutting corners… very scary. It’s only a matter of time before something happens…

[@sn-vj5wx]

Things literally have happened, hundreds of times. Entire planes have gone down, due to cutting corners with safety.

[@siam_g.d.s]

McDonnel-Douglas execs taking over was already the first sign. How did the Boeing execs at that time not see this coming when they already knew about the MD work culture and them doing the same thing when making the DC10.... It's Boeing's own fault for taking over MD. They should've just stayed independent.

[@robytar]

Just a matter of time for another MAX to make world headlines. Feel a little sorry for the airlines foolish enough to buy them; guess they have no choice as Airbus cannot supply every airline.

[@tguf456]

A security detail needs to be given to these whistleblowers

[@larrymcgee2141]

Why are they not removing the scrap from the facility? Or doing extreme damage to them so they can’t be used.

[@TheRambler-pz1gx]

Because they know they will be used later.

[@satanertau2689]

I'm sure the process is dragged out, just for this purpose. Happens in the Automotive industry too.

[@raalaa121]

Wouldn't be surprised if a few people get clipped because of this whistleblowing. I've flown on various dreamliners in the last couple of years, I thank God for a successful journey everytime I fly.

[@waynelast1685]

I’m an engineer. You’d be surprised how nothing is perfect. Wake up.

[@banzairunner7860]

When Wolfman Jack talks, I listen.

[@intorsusvolo7834]

People obsessed with profit to this extent are literally criminally insane.

[@lamrof]

I was working as a security officer once. We lost a master key and the client had to replace all of the site doors locks that would have costed 100's of thousands of dollars. The key was checked out and marked returned. However this construction supervisor talked to my shift mate that he has they key. That colleague of mine got the key and asked me to help him check under a cabinet, when we tilted the cabinet he dropped the key he had in his hand and picked up, claiming he just found it there. Unknown to him was that I had a suspicion and had placed a cell phone on the floor recording the incident in vivid color. Cheating and corruptions happen all the time unless there is a tight supervision.

[@ebolawarrior451]

Auto manufacturers started it, airlines said hell why not us too.

[@emileguertin]

I am surprised 60 Mins didn't blur the airline identities visible on planes during that report.

[@woodsman335]

I was a Quality Control Inspector at a plant in Sylacauga AL. We made aluminum engine blocks and other parts for Ford, Mercedes and other car manufacturers. The plant managers and dept supervisors would REGULARLY tell us inspectors to "pass" bad parts. I was moved to another dept because I did not pass a Mercedes door hatch that didn't meet specifications. In the second dept I had a part not pass and was let go. Even the plant engineers wanted to pass bad parts to prevent losing a bad part. Awful

[@satanertau2689]

I'm guessing your facility was non-union?

[@elw6150]

Now we know why our vehicles are crap and blow before 100k. Thank you for your honesty!

[@rebeccabutler9728]

Thank you for being brave and speaking out.

[@benyomovod6904]

Fly AIRBUS, see the world Fly BOEING, see the next one

[@grand_vacation]

Aw no hahah

[@notsosuavemate]

In todays Boeing more than so you’ll see heaven literally

[@elw6150]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@MarioSchlemmer-s5k]

If it isn`t Airbus, I`ll take the bus.

[@pappujha9357]

@@MarioSchlemmer-s5k Epic 😂😂😂

[@Hazanko83]

I worked at a place that built stuff for the Navy, and it was the same exact problems. The people in charge of inventory have no clue so parts were ALWAYS missing, everything was behind schedule and rushed with tons of shortcuts, and QA sign-off being more of a formality than any sort of assurance. Just normal operations... The upside being that if any of our stuff failed, maybe half of what we produced probably wouldn't seriously injure anyone.

[@Deanwvu]

Why do they even keep parts that are not usable/servicable?

[@LoisAGrimm]

Because of supply chain issues. Instead of cutting production - aka their profit source - they keep the faulty parts to reuse. Now I imagine some of the faulty parts could be refurbished but it seems to me most can not be yet kept.

[@specializedbndt]

Parts that do not conform to engineering intent are set aside and locked. These parts or assemblies then wait for review. The review can be anything from scrap, send back to the supplier or reworked.

[@wilsonsmom411]

So how the heck are we supposed to get on a plane with any confidence at all? 1) replace Boeing leadership 2) instill a culture of making it safe and worthwhile to speak up 3) motivate, don’t punish, employees to report issues

[@Part_121]

If true, there's a simple fix for the bad parts getting back on airplanes. Over the course of 42 years, I worked in aircraft maintenance at 2 major airlines. When a part was considered bad from stock, if it was a warrantied part, it was immediately returned to the vendor for warranty coverage. If no warranty was on the part, it was immediately destroyed. The spraying with red paint doesn't destroy anything. They just need to either cut the thing in half or do some other form of permanent damage to the bad parts. The sole engineer in this interview needs to get out in a hangar somewhere and work on some airplanes. It's been my experience that any bolt that really matters is difficult to line up, not because the holes are not accurate and don't align, but because the tolerances are so small. Sometimes bolts have to be shrunk in liquid nitrogen before installation because there's actually a slight interference fit between, for example, two sets of bushings and the bolt, so the bolt can't become its room temperature diameter until after it gets installed. Most mechanics carry around with them a small kit of various diameter bolts that have had their threaded ends ground down into a dome shape and their heads cut off. We would refer to them as "bullets" and their sole purpose was to drive through some set of slightly misaligned parts to get them to line up. With the heads of the bolts removed, the actual permanent bolt could then be driven in behind the bullet until the bullet popped out and then you could put whatever washers were required, and the nut, on the threaded end of the permanent bolt.

[@intorsusvolo7834]

At my Toyota dealership they cut faulty fuel tanks in half when they were recalled.

[@SFStransit]

Remember, this whistleblower is not suicidal

[@hurobiont1054]

I'm pretty sure that single door saved thousands of future lives, we should in fact thank Boeing for being so incompetent and venal that they got caught.

[@Yawn54]

It’s sickening to cut corners like this..

[@pfblack]

are these people in protective custody?

[@MrBibi86]

*I recently watched an old episode of Air Crash investigation where they talked about faulty and counterfeit parts that took down a plane. the system they had to come up with so it never happened again. it's sad and infuriating that this is happening*

[@sparrowhead1198]

I have stopped flying Boeing MAX and Boeing in general. I prefer Airbus now. It was lower fare until few years back and now it’s not being MAX or Boeing. No trust in their planes

[@malipele86]

Thank you! More room for me 😂😂

[@22mikemike]

Same. I haven't flown the 787 since the Al Jazeera exposé came out where on hidden camera Boeing employees working on the Dreamliner said they would never fly on the plane. Boeing is done.

[@johnguildy]

@@malipele86 exactly, nothing wrong with max aircraft today...

[@whatchamacallit70]

@@johnguildywait for it…

[@multiyapples]

Glad he spoke out.

[@thetwopointslow]

Typical modern America, where quantity wins over quality, the pursuit of more and more money over safety.

[@Satchel1992]

Very brave of this man to go on camera. The last guy that came out and testified against Boeing was found dead in his hotel the day of the court case.

[@dubs3815]

I like how 60minutes does not mention the suspicious deaths of Boeing workers.

[@Coolcarting]

Glad you like that.

[@anthonyriche552]

They probably didn't want to take the focus away from the main topic, but yeah the two were very suspicious.

[@ryanreedgibson]

They did, just not in this 14-minute video. But make it a conspiracy, after all, you're a slow American.

[@satanertau2689]

@@ryanreedgibson I don't think it's unreasonable to think that John was murdered. I've only seen this edit as well.

[@tylersavage6760]

And to set the example of how serious this is the board approved a pay package of $33million to the CEO and then let him step down with a $45million parachute package… that’ll teach him 👏

[@marylynnrodgers1091]

OMG!! My father a 28 yr Veteran, he went from jet airplane mechanic to inspector in the Military and worked for McDonald/Douglas and General Electric on Airplanes not passenger . Wonders what Boeing is going to do now after this goes viral.? Because this will !! I hope people boycott........

[@fjeanbaptisteable]

What happened to the other whistleblower? Rip to them all for speaking up

[@spdcrzy]

The enshittification of manufacturing is the endgame of late stage capitalism. Is anybody surprised?

[@Hwashburn]

Yes! That's why air travel was always so much safer in the USSR than in the US; and why, today, air travel safety in Russia continues to outpace that in the US by leaps and bounds!

[@spdcrzy]

@@Hwashburn LOL. This isn't limited to any one country. It's getting worse everywhere.

[@brinckau]

@@Hwashburn Isn't that a logical fallacy? Yes, flying is a lot safer today. But does that mean that the manufacturing process is necessarily done as seriously as in the past. The technology is better, the experience is better, the regulations are better, etc. As an analogy, if I'm not a serious car driver and don't fasten my seat belt, I may have less risk of being injured today than when I used to fasten my seat belt a few decades ago. Because today, I have ESP, ABS, collision avoidance system, emergency brake assist, active rollover protection, airbags, energy absorbers, etc. Also, as stated in the video, it is too early to say that it is now safe to fly on new Boeing planes. Those planes are young, we don't know yet how they will age.

[@MaGioZal]

It’s like a five-star restaurant using rotten ingredients to prepare expensive diners…

[@whatchamacallit70]

More like expired ingredients

[@coreyc2528]

These problem existed as far back as 2005 when they started production on the 787 Dreamliner. Constantly taking parts from different planes due to part shortages.

[@matthewishunting]

I've worked in QC before, calling out safety issues will get you fired. I know cause it happened to me

[@chespocket1756]

Wow! I am stunned at what went on!

[@universalmeditation8631]

Charlie Munger -“Show me the incentive, and I will show you the outcome.”

[@nickbanas3102]

There used to be a time when people would say if it ain't Boeing I'm not going.

[@jeffshriber6120]

Boeing went from built like iron aircraft in ww2 like the B-17,to outsourced experts with no oversige in their sub contrators. They need to have cameras in every oroduction and manufacting and assembly deoartments like a vegas casino.

[@jgg204]

It's important to note that Boeing Commercial and Boeing Defense Space & Security are two different Business Segments under the Boeing Company. Boeing Defense Space & Security is still top notch, and of the highest quality, producing some of the most advanced technologies in the history of aviation. The issue is Boeing Commercial, whose primary objective since the merger with MD, has been cost cuts and boosting profits (ie stock price). The entire premise of the Dreamliner was to decentralize production and internal collaboration, by globalizing and outsourcing the supply chain outwards. In summary, it means they dumped production onto tiered suppliers both domestically AND globally, to reduce internal labor costs within the Boeing company. This has resulted in a complete and utter disaster both from a logistics standpoint, but also from a quality standpoint. And it has led to program managers, as the video stated, fighting over parts and having to resort to taking red tagged parts and using them anyways with waivers. Basically, at the end of the day, Boeing Commercial cost cut itself too much and now here we are

[@HughesEnterprises]

lol you’ve never seen a Boeing factory then. You’d need 1 million+ cameras to see half of what’s going on before final assembly even starts.

[@JuanHernandez-dj9zo]

Now we’re gonna play Russian Roulette every time we book a Flight.

[@bobbrown8661]

America needs to Make Boeing Safe Again

[@notsosuavemate]

Less corporate and Wall Street more engineers that care the profit comes 2nd

[@paraisoprincipessa]

It was never safe

[@johnathonmansfield3106]

No? Just boycott them and fly on better planes?

[@sparkymcplug3765]

This is what happens when you put bean counters in charge of your company.

[@Maliceless100]

If harmless DUIs can result in arrests and jail time, members of Boeing management also need to face consequences. Corporations will continue putting profits over lives until people, not companies, start paying the price.

[@bohlken241]

after Boeing's alledged track history, i do feel uncomfortable seeing this brave man on camera. Im glad he's speaking out.

[@yugotime1598]

Works at that factory. "Worked" is now the appropriate term.

[@mikewaxx]

this looks like a hit job.12:10 "NTSB reports show that they're safer than they've ever been" And he completely dodges the question. "we don't know what's coming in the future"

[@jolness1]

All of the recent CEOs were Jack Welch (General electric in the 80s and 90s) protégés and followed his playbook. Cut costs by outsourcing, cut R&D spending and dump it into stock buybacks to juice the price. And it worked from a share price perspective for quite a while. Investors loved Boeing stock up to the 737 max crisis. Somehow McDonell Douglas bought bowling using Boeing’s money and and it went from being an engineering lead company with a maniacal focus on safety and quality to being entirely shareholder driven. Companies are meant to make profits but they’re also meant to be good “citizens” and so many aren’t. Boeing is just a glaring example of the turn we’ve taken since the 80s