Kate Winslet on taking Rolleiflex photos for "Lee"

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@markgarcia8253
@markgarcia8253 9 күн бұрын
I’m a simple man, I saw a Rolleiflex in the thumbnail and I clicked on this.
@davidgifford8112
@davidgifford8112 8 күн бұрын
There is something special about using a twinflex camera, the large bright viewfinder image cannot be matched by other systems.
@83442handle
@83442handle 8 күн бұрын
does it have an articulating screen with PDAF so i can film tik tok shorts??????
@manfromtitan2605
@manfromtitan2605 8 күн бұрын
@@davidgifford8112 The hassy 500 series 🤣But any TLR is probably more worth it than spending 3k on a basically similar camera
@jmtphotographymedia
@jmtphotographymedia 7 күн бұрын
Me too
@cliclactube
@cliclactube 7 күн бұрын
This movie made me use my Rolleiflex again, after years and years of dust collecting :)
@theraven6836
@theraven6836 9 күн бұрын
I’ve been photographing for over 24 years and can usually tell when actors are faking it. I never got that impression in Lee. It always seemed genuine. Now I know it was.
@david486038
@david486038 4 күн бұрын
The thing for me that stands out the most is a old film SLR with a wind on crank and having a motordrive sound effect added over it. Or when they hold there finger on the shutter button and the sound effect of multiple shots.... At leasts get it vaguely correct.
@andrewtongue7084
@andrewtongue7084 8 күн бұрын
Winslet is the consummate artisan. I've been taking roll film & digital photographs for over forty years. Pausing one's breath is an age-old technique, & even with image stabilisation in cameras & lenses now, I still hold my breath when taking a hand-held photograph. The film was a masterpiece. I have several of Miller's photographic book compilations - they never get old. TLR's rock !
@ArifGhostwriter
@ArifGhostwriter 4 күн бұрын
Ideally, holding one's breath after an outbreath - leads to maximum stillness.
@andrewtongue7084
@andrewtongue7084 4 күн бұрын
Indeed so, Ghostwriter.
@lorettanericcio-bohlman567
@lorettanericcio-bohlman567 9 күн бұрын
Winslet, ultimate professional and a true gentlewoman 💕💜
@TheUrbanmeister
@TheUrbanmeister 8 күн бұрын
Definitely.
@spyratekodaks7494
@spyratekodaks7494 7 күн бұрын
I just love it when actors actually pay attention and put passion in these lovely little details! Especially with film which is my love!
@sebsrandombeamclips
@sebsrandombeamclips 6 күн бұрын
So much respect for her taking the time to learn about photography to be as authentic as possible with acting
@familyfarmcountry
@familyfarmcountry 8 күн бұрын
Professional photographer and filmmaker here; to stabilize we still hold our breath today. So much technology has changed and some things are still the same. Positioning your arms and body to be a natural tripod is key so many times. Good on her for doing it properly. With anything from sword-fighting to playing an instrument, it helps visually with the depth of the film if the actor knows some of what they are portraying.
@chumpthetraitor7331
@chumpthetraitor7331 2 күн бұрын
Can't wait for these self proclamation trend to die down
@familyfarmcountry
@familyfarmcountry 2 күн бұрын
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@RickMahoney2013
@RickMahoney2013 8 күн бұрын
Thank God someone in Hollywood is thinking out of the box. I wish more people in Hollywood would get into photography. Thank you Kate.
@d.r.martin6301
@d.r.martin6301 8 күн бұрын
One of the our greatest cameras ever, along with the Leica, Hasselblad, and the Nikon. Kudos to Winslet for getting it right.
@adelaferreira4575
@adelaferreira4575 9 күн бұрын
Kate just gets better and better as time passes !
@TheUrbanmeister
@TheUrbanmeister 8 күн бұрын
She does!
@pic101
@pic101 8 күн бұрын
Yep. Lovely woman.
@Tobirama_isHimju
@Tobirama_isHimju 6 күн бұрын
Literally just bought a Yashica mat 124 two days ago and now I see this. I'm super excited.
@banjohead66
@banjohead66 6 күн бұрын
That's a great camera! I'm sure you'll enjoy it very much!
@caseyk972
@caseyk972 6 күн бұрын
Brilliant camera. Used mine until it failed then had it refurbished.
@tgchism
@tgchism 9 күн бұрын
A genuine talent for acting but I would love to see more of what she could do with that camera!
@mariopiper9256
@mariopiper9256 8 күн бұрын
Kate Winslet is truly an artist’s artist. Clicked on it when I saw the Rolleiflex. My wife uses Yashica TLR’s. TLE’s are wonderful cameras.
@AlexTravelsAround
@AlexTravelsAround 6 күн бұрын
I love it when actors go into details and learn for the movie so much and use it. Great for her telling the movie guys "off" not to change what she does with the camera. I hope she will publish the pictures she took in the movie :-)
@steveconn
@steveconn 9 күн бұрын
Lee really deepened when she visited the death camps towards the end. Powerful movie.
@laurajazzpiano401
@laurajazzpiano401 9 күн бұрын
I have that exact brown case and she's bang on in terms of breathing when taking the picture.
@MarkWoodwardPhotography
@MarkWoodwardPhotography 7 күн бұрын
An incredible portrait of a wonderful woman. Thoroughly enjoyed this movie.
@aliciaanne
@aliciaanne 7 күн бұрын
I hope Kate wins Oscar #2 for this one!
@PittheadX
@PittheadX 9 күн бұрын
Kate is the best actress on Earth today incase of skills. She's transformed and transcended to the Danny Day Lewis level since the Mare Of Easttown series.
@steveconn
@steveconn 9 күн бұрын
I don't know, I think Jessica Chastain in Miss Julie in 2014 is probably the greatest female performance ever filmed.
@PittheadX
@PittheadX 9 күн бұрын
@steveconn I was a fan of Chastain but she will never touch the current verison of Kate, bar none.
@TheUrbanmeister
@TheUrbanmeister 8 күн бұрын
The two replies, (so far), make valid points. A good, and courteous debate.
@VezVezar
@VezVezar 8 күн бұрын
I think the breathing thing is less about the focus, more about the steadiness when the shutter fires. Films at the time would have been pretty slow i presume, which required a slower shutter speed, which means been able to hold it as steady as possible is vital to a clear image…
@Tom_YouTube_stole_my_handle
@Tom_YouTube_stole_my_handle 8 күн бұрын
The Ilford HP emulsions were available before the war, I have no idea what Lee Miller was using, or if HP was available in roll film at that time though but it could well be she was able to use 400ASA film at that time.
@matthijstermeer611
@matthijstermeer611 8 күн бұрын
Yeah, we're talking about motion blur here. But it does affect focus.
@gabedamien
@gabedamien 8 күн бұрын
At close distance and wide aperture on medium format, it also is about focus. The depth of field is quite narrow, and if you're trying to keep critical focus on e.g. a person's eye, a little movement in the fore-aft dimension can throw things out.
@matthijstermeer611
@matthijstermeer611 8 күн бұрын
@@gabedamien Yes, that would be another example, even with a not-so-slow shutter speed. And if you stop down, you'll still lose critical focus in the eye.
@Digmen1
@Digmen1 8 күн бұрын
Yes its the steadiness - not the focus - but we can forgive her for that
@patrickmcfadden1689
@patrickmcfadden1689 4 күн бұрын
I am totally impressed with Ms Winslet, my 1st photography gig was as high school year book photographer in 1970 using an identical camera. Loved doing it and learning so much that I have done photography ever since.
@kleverich
@kleverich 8 күн бұрын
I'm not sure what they mean by "replica" of a Rolleiflex camera. I mean an actual camera used by Lee Miller is probably a museum piece you would not want to use on the film set. However as used cameras go, despite being old Rolleiflex cameras are readily available and not very expensive.
@musa7606
@musa7606 6 күн бұрын
"Same model" would be the correct term. But why should journalists get anything correct?
@nica900
@nica900 9 күн бұрын
My first camera was my mother's vintage box Brownie and I know that feeling - you had to hold your breath because you hold the camera steady against your body and have to hold your breath to stop the camera shake. Took some great pics with it.
@baobo67
@baobo67 8 күн бұрын
Wow Went straight to my camera collection, pulled out a twin lens reflex and had a play with it. Beautiful actor. Looking forward to the film Cheers and thanks.
@thorenjohn
@thorenjohn 6 күн бұрын
I loved using my rolleiflex when I travelled. People warmed up to it and were happy to let me photograph them. Lovely quality of the photos, too.
@ForestCyclingAdventures
@ForestCyclingAdventures 5 күн бұрын
My wife uses a Rollei and I use a mamiya 645. People always walk up to to her ask about her camera and want a photo taken with it.. I get completely ignored 😂
@archiechoke23
@archiechoke23 3 күн бұрын
Looking forward to watching this movie.
@emgee44
@emgee44 6 күн бұрын
I watched the film recently, it's was very good and I'm so glad to hear that Kate actually took photographs during the filming.
@oldtomsphotos
@oldtomsphotos 2 күн бұрын
Loved, loved the film and I have bough Lee's books as a result.
@drewgarrison2145
@drewgarrison2145 Күн бұрын
My grandmother served as a WAC in WWII in France. She carried a Reflex with her. She would have loved this movie.
@StephenBarnett
@StephenBarnett 9 күн бұрын
Having seen the film just days ago, Kate was so good in this role..
@bylavoie
@bylavoie 7 күн бұрын
respect on calling that out in the mix.
@kimberlyenglehardt5770
@kimberlyenglehardt5770 9 күн бұрын
I’m so deeply grateful you didn’t put any energy into another string for your bow. We’d be the lesser for it. Your work is splendid!!
@wolf17238
@wolf17238 9 күн бұрын
Her performance in The Reader is my favorite. To me, it's going to be hard to top.
@guyfromsac1
@guyfromsac1 4 күн бұрын
Wow, this looks great. I've never heard of it. I can't wait to watch it ...
@imagenatura
@imagenatura 8 күн бұрын
The focus is not the issue with breathing- it's camera shake and blur. The focus is not nearly as finicky as the shake. The rule is to shoot at 1/125s and use good technique like holding your breath and you'll get a sharp shot.
@Four1LF
@Four1LF 8 күн бұрын
I think ISO or ASA was as low as 15 and 25 back then -maybe more for B&W.
@r2d2rxr
@r2d2rxr 9 күн бұрын
Kate shoots HP5!!! 😮❤
@ericbrinkhorst4616
@ericbrinkhorst4616 8 күн бұрын
Great movie! I loved the way she acts. I am a photojournalist. She has the spirit to focus , observe, feel where she has to take the moment and make pictures in a photojournalistic way. respect. A Document / hommage for Lee ps holding breath is just for holding the camera as stable as possible.. Not for focus.
@TheManFrayBentos
@TheManFrayBentos 6 күн бұрын
It was the IBIS of the day.
@TheManFrayBentos
@TheManFrayBentos 6 күн бұрын
A replica? Looks like the real thing to me. Hardly a replica, they made tens of thousands of them.
@Digmen1
@Digmen1 8 күн бұрын
I Have been waiting for this movie for several years It looks like Kate Winslett was a good choice!
@filibertkraxner305
@filibertkraxner305 8 күн бұрын
Photographer with Rolleiflex knockoff (Weltaflex) chiming in: I absolutely could tell Kate was the real deal in this movie. Loved it! The whole movie btw, what a masterpiece!
@captureallen8632
@captureallen8632 5 күн бұрын
I do it even with my digital camera. I hold my breath when I get ready to shoot. It's a good technique to use, especially if there isn't image stabilization in the lens or the camera.
@carlosmcse
@carlosmcse 9 күн бұрын
It wasn’t a replica. It was a Rolleiflex.
@Alexius1Komnenos
@Alexius1Komnenos 9 күн бұрын
Taking an actual camera and modifying it to emulate the character’s real life camera makes it a replica
@carlosmcse
@carlosmcse 9 күн бұрын
@ it’s the same camera. It’s a Rolleiflex. They’re all the same. A replica camera is a non-functional camera. The host knows nothing about cameras and neither do you. If they bought a Rolleiflex and painted it or distressed it to make it look like the camera the photographer owned then that doesn’t make it a “replica”. It would be a “tribute camera”.
@Chrisi8585
@Chrisi8585 8 күн бұрын
⁠@@carlosmcseAlthough I agree with you. You still have to remember that the wording are ment for the laymen, not YOU. It is an easy mistake to assume a public statement is ment for you when in fact it was made for laymen so do not fret too much over such.
@michaelmittermuller6328
@michaelmittermuller6328 8 күн бұрын
Rolleiflex was a camera that was made in Germany for decades. So are Zeiss and Rodenstock and Linhof and Agfa and Leica and Arnold an Richter. When depicting "germans" in movies you shold not forget that part. Especially when forgetting that all sides suffer in wars. So the real issue to prevent a war from happening by not extending one into another. Especially in these days.
@TheManFrayBentos
@TheManFrayBentos 6 күн бұрын
I have a 1940-ish 9x12 Linhof that's (apart from the bellows) as good as it left the factory. Except some clumsy doofus of a previous owner stripped the rise gear.
@billj5645
@billj5645 7 күн бұрын
That camera has a relatively slow lens and I'm sure the film of the time was not very fast either. The video shows her photographing indoors where there was probably poor light. All that means she would need real slow shutter speeds and you have to have good technique for holding the camera still or you will get motion blur in the photos. Modern photography is very much easier in those regards.
@fredhannum4015
@fredhannum4015 3 күн бұрын
I'm holding my breath, till I get to see this film.
@alkadypod
@alkadypod 9 күн бұрын
Kate portrayed "Lee" perfectly the film was oscar worthy & esp Kates performance
@pianostudy4403
@pianostudy4403 8 күн бұрын
Thanks for spotlighting this… Rolleiflex, a great enduring camera still being used today by many folks (including myself).
@mrb.5610
@mrb.5610 9 күн бұрын
I'm showingmy age but I've used them - or rather the Maniya C330 'equivalent' - and her use of the camera didn't jar - it looked real enough ! (Except maybe for the low light shots - we don't know how spoiled we are with the 'light grabbing' ability of modern digital cameras and smartphones !!)
@Tom_YouTube_stole_my_handle
@Tom_YouTube_stole_my_handle 8 күн бұрын
Remember though that the leaf shutter in the Rollei and your Mamiya (which I also have) meant much less vibration than an SLR or DSLR would produce in the same circumstances. She would have been able to use relatively long shutter speeds.
@mrb.5610
@mrb.5610 8 күн бұрын
@@Tom_KZbin_stole_my_handle True ! A friend had the 645 and that would damn near jump out of your hand in comparison. And also quick - no waiting for the mirror to bounce out of the way ! Great for portrait work. It's all coming back to me now - they were bloody good even though other 'photographers' would take the pee because they looked 'old fashioned' !! Add - writing this has even brought back the smell of them - always slightly musty from the case !! And opening the foil on a roll of FP4 would have a slight chemical odour too . . . . Modern digital stuff just doesn't have that !!
@michaell5038
@michaell5038 7 күн бұрын
Lee is a brilliant film 😊
@sclogse1
@sclogse1 8 күн бұрын
I have a feeling Lee would have been using a lens hood in that outdoor shot. 1:41 I used my father's Rollei as a prop in my short film noir. And a Ronson Touch Tip lighter of the same type as Bogart's in Maltese Falcon.
@蔡依林-g1j
@蔡依林-g1j 7 күн бұрын
In the old days with a film camera, there is no image stabilization function built into the camera, so when taking a picture with slower shutter speeds, one needs to hold his or her breath until a picture is taken. If you breathe while taking a picture, the focus may not change, but the resulting picture will most likely be blurred.
@Black_Jesus3005
@Black_Jesus3005 7 күн бұрын
Sounds like an interesting film! Gonna have to check it out
@edwardslizewski3296
@edwardslizewski3296 8 күн бұрын
The twin lens Rolleiflex is a great camera. I inherited mine from my father.
@scroggins100
@scroggins100 6 күн бұрын
Back in the day I was given a lovely Rollie and left it on the coffee table. I came back and found my 3 year old daughter had the lens off and was "fine tuning the mechanism". I think I may have had some grit in my eye for a while!
@jaynewilson3738
@jaynewilson3738 8 күн бұрын
Great film, Kate was fantastic 😁
@kabaottoemulsion1869
@kabaottoemulsion1869 8 күн бұрын
She was very very good in that film for sure.
@GuitarNGrillnDad
@GuitarNGrillnDad 7 күн бұрын
I often notice when actors play photographers but don’t know how to hold the camera. It’s instantly obvious if they aren’t serious photographers just by how they hold it when taking a picture. So she was so right to work on that by actually taking pictures and seeing - no that was blurry, so got to steady it. It’s not as forgiving as today’s iphone cameras.
@hotcayenne
@hotcayenne 8 күн бұрын
Bravo, Kate!
@jasonm4695
@jasonm4695 8 күн бұрын
Who decided to crop Winslet's recreation of women with fire mask and eye shield as a rectangle? The point of Lee's choice to use a Rollei is its square format. Changing that original image to a rectangle is missing the point of that camera and that image.
@zihansong8182
@zihansong8182 6 күн бұрын
Man see Rolleiflex, man click, man happy
@seantomlinson3320
@seantomlinson3320 7 күн бұрын
Neat! I need to see this.
@deborahcambria3005
@deborahcambria3005 7 күн бұрын
Love Kate!
@jessicagarcia7558
@jessicagarcia7558 8 күн бұрын
best kind of photography
@errolpletcher9186
@errolpletcher9186 5 күн бұрын
C'mon 60 minutes, release the interview in full!
@BrokeNBalding
@BrokeNBalding 7 күн бұрын
i like the photos she took
@michellegall9826
@michellegall9826 5 күн бұрын
That's NOT A REPLICA---it's a real Rolleiflex. 70 year camera that still works!
@jeromemckenna7102
@jeromemckenna7102 8 күн бұрын
Yes, one does hold one's breath while taking shots with a TLR (twin lens reflex to you young folk). Had a Yashica TLR that I used for a long time.
@traydaniel0403
@traydaniel0403 6 күн бұрын
I really hope Leo DiCaprio & Kate Winslet returns to work together again. Maybe in the James Cameron’s Avatar installment with Sam Worthington, Zoe Saldana, Stephen Lang and Sigourney Weaver? I heard that James said that he even left the door open for Leo just in case if he wants to join in.
@MezeiEugen
@MezeiEugen 5 күн бұрын
I saw a ton of historical photographs and films (newsreels, war reportages, etc.) and never encountered a Rolleiflex with a flash solenoid.
@RollaArtis
@RollaArtis 9 күн бұрын
These 6x6 cameras are good but one has to make allowances for the slower film speed. Years ago I always used a Rolleiflex and am glad I did, because with modern digital manipulation my pictures stand up really well compared to digital cameras of the present. But not those from a 35mm camera.
@Me-gy7yk
@Me-gy7yk 7 күн бұрын
I have a 90 year old Rolleiflex and it's an awesome camera but it did take me a while to get used to it.
@BavarianM
@BavarianM 7 күн бұрын
Price of Rolleiflex going up in 3…2…1…
@lensman5762
@lensman5762 8 күн бұрын
It seems that Winslet has done a lot of research in the way Miller worked and my feeling is that there is a personal aspect to Winslet's interest in her as well as a professional one. Most photographers of this day and age will run a mile if they saw a TLR with which they had to do serious work.
@musa7606
@musa7606 6 күн бұрын
Run a mile towards or away from? Rolleis are quite desirable.
@lensman5762
@lensman5762 6 күн бұрын
@musa7606 That's what people all think. Because this photographer and that photographer used it, like these bloody Leica M cameras these days. Then they come and make silly videos titled Is it worth it? The fact is that a lot of people these days can not cope with a WLF and looking down onto a reversed image on a relatively dim screen and hit the focus. In any case desirability in the camera world had never equated practicality.
@zenadventurer69
@zenadventurer69 5 күн бұрын
I owned a Rollei. It was amazing. But it is almost impossible to get film developed and what you can get developed is really expensive. So I sold it.
@Entertainmentplus365
@Entertainmentplus365 8 күн бұрын
The movie was so good
@Four1LF
@Four1LF 8 күн бұрын
On the breathing... all photographers know that if you set the shutter speed to 1/125 or 1/250 of a second that freezes subtle movements of both camera and subject. Of course, ISO is slow so...
@kms08711
@kms08711 8 күн бұрын
Are you sure iso were 25... that is crazy i thought it was at least 100 or 200 or even 400
@davidgreenwood5442
@davidgreenwood5442 9 күн бұрын
Brilliant actress
@sprucemoose3000
@sprucemoose3000 9 күн бұрын
I can’t wait to see it. Love Lees work.
@itsthehumidityyall8303
@itsthehumidityyall8303 7 күн бұрын
I hope she makes movies for a good bit longer!
@Tom_YouTube_stole_my_handle
@Tom_YouTube_stole_my_handle 8 күн бұрын
Anyone else prefer the Winslet photo of the women in anti-flash glasses to Lee Miller's version?
@lillianvalentine1975
@lillianvalentine1975 6 күн бұрын
how cool!I use a Rollieflex too!
@earvinquero2037
@earvinquero2037 9 күн бұрын
Viviane Mier the movie next.
@jeynes14
@jeynes14 6 күн бұрын
Good job Kate.
@jrzshor
@jrzshor 7 күн бұрын
oh my god she learned how to take pictures!
@mproyuclan
@mproyuclan 8 күн бұрын
Great film and brilliantly acted. Don’t quite understand reference to using replica Rolleiflex cameras, surely she just used Rolleiflex cameras. Whilst being still and breath control may be ideal at slow speeds I would guess in the moment when everything is happening Lee Miller would have taken the shot rather than wait when push comes to shove.
@mrchairman08
@mrchairman08 Күн бұрын
After her performance in this movie I will be very surprised if Kate doesn’t keep up with film photography
@garyives1218
@garyives1218 6 күн бұрын
Bravo
@AV84USA
@AV84USA 8 күн бұрын
OMG! Kate Winslet played a photographer in a movie, and she actually learned to use……a camera! Such…….dedication. Such……realism. Such…….hollywood.
@musa7606
@musa7606 6 күн бұрын
I heard she went full Daniel Day-Lewis and took pictures for a whole year.
@SteveMillerhuntingforfood
@SteveMillerhuntingforfood 5 күн бұрын
I wonder if the film Lee was shot on film?
@PieterBreda
@PieterBreda 6 күн бұрын
And everything is mirrored. Very hard to even get the frame in the beginning.
@jlsmith7588
@jlsmith7588 9 күн бұрын
Why did Kate shoot with a “replica” Rolleiflex? I have an original Rolleiflex which I bought a few years ago and it takes wonderful pictures. You can buy used Rolleiflexs now and I imagine they are less expensive than replicas.
@markgarcia8253
@markgarcia8253 9 күн бұрын
Look that the video, it’s clearly not a replica
@Robert_Gonzales
@Robert_Gonzales 9 күн бұрын
replica as in a replica of the orinial rolleiflex used by the photographer
@buning_sensations5437
@buning_sensations5437 9 күн бұрын
A used real one runs 400-700 euro.
@Mike_Wazowski_z
@Mike_Wazowski_z 7 күн бұрын
super cool
@sonuvasteele2226
@sonuvasteele2226 7 күн бұрын
Great, now the price of this camera is gonna skyrocket
@fredcraven1699
@fredcraven1699 9 күн бұрын
Lee is usually spelled l e i g h girls
@vangstr
@vangstr 8 күн бұрын
a Rolleiflex, I'm watching.
@benjiang9789
@benjiang9789 7 күн бұрын
I used an imitation camera of this Rolleiflex.
@thegreatvanziniphotos5976
@thegreatvanziniphotos5976 8 күн бұрын
Wow! I have to find a place where I can see this film. I still have to take my c330 out & shoot a roll.
@ericsternberger2768
@ericsternberger2768 6 күн бұрын
An exciting movie and a great performance by Mrs. Winslet! however: There was one scene where „Lee“ touched the glass of the lens with her fingers when she was framing the shot. This would have never happened to a real pro. However having it in the movie is rather bad directing than bad acting…
@paillette2010
@paillette2010 6 күн бұрын
How ironic that filmmakers don’t understand the quality of stillness necessary when taking a tlr photo.
@briansmith9707
@briansmith9707 8 күн бұрын
once again CBS there is a problem with your video. choppy quality. why would somebody want to watch this?
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