64 TICK vs 128 TICK - The Ultimate Test ft. FaZe Ropz & Neok

[@NaToSaphiX]

Spent over 10 hours editing this today and over 20 hours on this video in total I would love to do more of these "big" projects in the future, so if you enjoyed watching the video, a like and a comment will mean everything ♥

[@zam2890]

Good video but some constructive feedback. Idk if people care just listening to a compilation of your friend just saying 64tick or 128tick over and over again. For the ropz section it would've been nice to have on the screen if it was 64 or 128tick so we know how well he's doing he's talking.

[@NaToSaphiX]

@@zam2890 Always appreciate some constructive criticism! I'll keep it in mind for future videos

[@zam2890]

@@NaToSaphiX I think this video is really important tho to show the importance of 128 tick for high level play. Keep it up

[@SenatorBanana]

im sorry but this is unwatchable. video could have been 5 minutes long with some graphics to show the results of each person's test.

[@badvf]

I agree, it was pretty tedious and unnecessary hearing them say 64 & 128 tick over and over again, could've been made much more simple and digestible. But a very good video idea, we need the awareness for CS2.

[@NadeKing]

First of all, great video idea Nato! And ropz is a monster.

[@NaToSaphiX]

Thank you, bro ❤️ Means a lot coming from the GOAT CS:GO creator

[@Terision]

EST power

[@sneaco]

ropz getting every single one correct is wild

[@reboot1337]

well not really

[@crusaderonmeth454]

​@@reboot1337 im smelling copium

[@SethThrow]

@@crusaderonmeth454you can tell it’s a big difference

[@ubbystoned]

​@@SethThrowcept Neok couldn't, he has thousands of hours.

[@tiburc10]

I still dont know ropz' score. Where is it? This video is so bad

[@jack_lansky]

Imagine being so good at this counter strike you can legitimately say your failed bhops because of the game and not yourself.

[@senya6095]

People who practice bhop a lot get used to the timing of scroll jumps with that tickrate. 64 tick needs different scroll jump speed compared to 128 to hit more consistent hops. It's a pretty obvious difference once the player learns to bhop consistently on one tickrate.

[@randavido]

This for me is by far the easiest way to detect that you are on a 64 tick server. I'm no bhoping god, but I do it alot and have always liked the bhop in cs ever since the earliest days.

[@SethThrow]

you don’t have to be good to be able to tell. I’m not the greatest so I just compare it to how consistent it is to hit hops at my scrub skill level. If I can’t hit two in a row without many attempts then I know it’s 64.

[@ALemonCannon2]

It's literally the easiest way to tell if a server is 128 tick or not. You can tell instantly with scroll wheel bhopping

[@proteus5340]

Any body with good mechanics will understand that 100%!!!!

[@zonathanplayz4445]

Ropz has net_graph 1 built into his brain

[@NaToSaphiX]

Glad that he recorded his screen, not sure if anyone would have believed it otherwise

[@MarvoldX]

play vnl kz on 64t and on 128t and u can see the huge different

[@Crossovahh]

nah everyone would believe Ropz haha

[@nickv3085]

Ropz is an s-tier pro at this stuff especially. I’d be shocked if all pros could 30/30 this.

[@flowerDance2112]

yep! but if the game is 64 tick only going forward, even though many people wont know the difference, in the pro play at least, pro players will start to feel less consistent for sure

[@flowerDance2112]

Imagine ropz doing the nuke jump 15-14 up in major playoffs and then he fails because of the tickrate

[@whitewatercsgo]

Im pretty sure Ill get 30/30 or extremely close 🥶

[@CPSPD]

@@whitewatercsgo yes men you are just like ropz

[@whitewatercsgo]

@@CPSPD 17.5k hours should do something

[@nartouthere]

as expected of ropz

[@adamlee1871]

His level of observation is insane

[@al6622]

You should do this test to Loba to get the ultimate test

[@GAMEiNGSWAG]

W

[@AK-pure]

Theres no trusting that guy to do it fairly, he'll probably cheat to be right considering how much flak he's got on Twitter.

[@TerenceChiII]

what did he gett flak for?@@AK-pure

[@kirinom-3129]

@@AK-pure Idk how you can hate loba when this video clearly shows you that he was right. Huge difference. Loba got himself to FPL, you think he can't tell the difference like Ropz? He is leagues above NEOK who is mainly a MM player.

[@emtech7457]

1/30

[@AdmittedEnd]

Ropz is a cs genius

[@3xpl017s]

no fucking way ropz got 30/30. this is a solved cold case for me

[@Askemanden]

ropz being so good makes sense. Bro made the game.

[@XwSScout]

Getting 0-7 correct basically means ur guessing. I mean there’s a 50/50 chance of guessing right. But Ropz getting 100% correct is definite proof he can feel it.

[@RayJames-mk3yq]

If you consistently get 0-3 correct you have a highly accurate hit rate. you just need to flip your answer. anything close to 50% is when youre guessing and not experiencing a difference.

[@isaace.6157]

30/30 is crazy. Pros are wild

[@Smo-King-Gun]

bow down to ropz, this kid is insane, so much respect !

[@neokCS]

I havent played 128 tick in like 5(?) months 😎👍🏻

[@mikevismyelement]

This is very important actually

[@H42E]

I Think the difference between 64 tick and 128 tick is way more noticable in actual matches where 128 tick just feels so much smoother in every way, started by just running around but especially when it comes to fast gunfights, spray and long range 1 tap hit registration where the hitreg difference at least for me becomes extremly reckognizable in those situations.

[@proteus5340]

Those casual authors going to make Valve keep 64 ticks.

[@Nillowo]

Agreed. Sucks we got “subtick” instead of just going for 128, it’s just better

[@TriWaZe]

@@NillowoSubtick is lightyears better than 128. It will just never be optimal until its subtick 128

[@MrBa143]

@@TriWaZe What exactly do you mean by "subtick 128" ?

[@TriWaZe]

@@MrBa143 Literally what I said. Right now we have subtick on a 64 tick server. We need subtick on a 128 tick server

[@thetrashycan]

As someone who plays 128 tick FFA and 64 tick Valve MM, I'm very surprised at how few people mention spraying as a noticeable difference between the tickrates. Even with very few hours if you know the difference with the sprays you can probably get 70-80% correct guesses

[@sm0akable]

Exactly. I remember years ago n0thing made a video about the difference between 64 tick and 128 tick spraying.

[@proteus5340]

Casual KZbinrs going to make Valve keep 64 tickrate…

[@Nillowo]

Yep. I used to be decent at spraying in cs on faceit especially and in cs2 it’s horrible lol

[@m1000-n8w]

Well look at Neok, the middle guy. Hes very highly rated in FaceIt. You're speaking such bullshit. Youd get 3/30

[@cartmanshome]

when ropz mentions that the sound cue is different from 64 to 128, i think the rhythm at which the gun fires (esp. when doing a full burst) is slightly inconsistent in 64 compared to 128.

[@tekno47]

i think its to do with the issue in the recent mrmaxim video where the gun animation plays at the end of the tick, even if you shoot halfway through one. that would mean the gun sounds are delayed on all tickrates, but less so on 128 vs 64

[@CatfishBradley]

Possibly but I believe that's more of a sub-tick thing. by "slower" he could have also meant just response time from the server. Maybe I'm just autistic, but I can feel the difference in tickrate just by picking up or dropping weapons. It's always slightly more responsive on 128. Tickrate is also the difference between the deagle being a pocket AWP and a waste of money beyond 20ft lmao@@tekno47

[@badvf]

@@tekno47 bro, that's in CS2 only, this is CSGO..

[@tekno47]

@@badvf no, its a problem in csgo too. gunshot animations/sounds are just delayed from when you click rather than desynced with shots since everything is processed each tick in csgo.

[@badvf]

@@tekno47 in CSGO with the old tickrate system both the shot and the animation starts at the next server tick. What causes the delayed animation is subtick, the shot registers immediately but the animation starts at the next server tick. He even explains it in the video you're talking about, that's the difference between CSGO and CS2, and why CS2 feels off and inconsistent

[@zaphy6342]

Ropz is a true nerd, I love him. Also he's a real one for doing all these tests with you

[@NaToSaphiX]

Apologies for the 360p, video is somehow still processing 1 hour later twitter.com/NaToSaphiX/status/1705284477507838146

[@ThaBabris]

I wonder how neok feels about the difference between 64 and 128 - I think he plays a lot of MM (64 tick) and maybe feels comfortable there as well, while I think I felt a lot different playing Faceit/community dm (128 tick) and MM, and I feel a huge improvement when playing in a 128 tick server after a while of just playing MM. What I'm saying is, maybe he doesn't notice the difference in tickrate that much because he feels comfortable in both.. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if ropz would outdo all the other pros in this experiment because he's so damn clean with all his mechanics (even relative to pros).

[@pavelkonovalov3883]

he feels comfortable in MM as I will be comfortable on boxing ring against 1st graders

[@AtlasV-]

I can guarantee you that no professional player would score under 28/30 in this test.

[@Jetpans]

@@AtlasV- I dare say this stands true for any competitive player above 2-3k hours. Competitive meaning tryhard.

[@AtlasV-]

Good job NaTo, we needed a well-planned test and you delivered. Thank you for putting the effort in, now let’s hope that our beloved overlords at Valve take notice.

[@NaToSaphiX]

Appreciate the kind words ❤️

[@captainzeh]

Ropz just being an absolute legend like always

[@CoJoMoCS]

ROPZ IS THE BEST

[@mattkirkhamm]

i remember the days of 33 tick and 100 tick in css the difference was like a completely new game. guns shot so much faster in 100tick. meta for firing mechanics were totally different. spraying on 33 tick was so dumb. then spraying on 100tick was like your full clip dissapeared in a second

[@whitewatercsgo]

Yep, but almost the same happens in csgo. I like the Way u say meta on different tick rates because for me on 64 tick, fast tapping is so much better than spraying. But on 128 tick its just way more viable to spray. (Not that tapping is bad on 128 ofc)

[@mattkirkhamm]

100% agree with you. fast tapping probably works well on 128 tick but is so hard to tap at the speed u can spray, might aswell go full auto @@whitewatercsgo i remember playing on 33 tick servers and tapping and 2 shot bursts were incredible cos the spray was so slow and harder to control because it was so slow. also the scout and awp were even more OP on 33 tick

[@MrBa143]

1 second on 100 tick is still 1 second on 33 tick. A weapon has a fire rate which dictates how fast you can empty a clip, that duration is the same no matter the tickrate.

[@mattkirkhamm]

@@MrBa143 play css on a 33tick server and then on 100tickrate server and get back to me

[@whitewatercsgo]

@@MrBa143 It's through sound and animation you can differ. The feel cs2 always had before the release was the animation was completely off synced with the hit registration so the shooting felt impossible. In csgo it's different syncs that you can tell apart if you know what to look for

[@themomorain]

Im not a professional player and I easily feel the difference. Not as much in movement (ropz did insanely good) but when it comes down to gunplay, how consistently I can hit moving targets, phenomenons where you shoot with awp and you can hear the sound yourself but the bullet doesn’t fire etc. there is a world of difference!!

[@twixy..therianz]

I easily do too. But if I was forced to stand still I’m not sure I could. The biggest win with 128 tick is the fluent movement in my opinion.

[@themomorain]

Yes 100% It’s always the moving targets. I really hope they will improve cs2 way more. Right now it’s honestly way less accurate than csgo!

[@MrBa143]

@@themomorain Well technically hit reg in CS2 is even more accurate than 128 tick in csgo.

[@themomorain]

@@MrBa143 true but every thing around is inconsistent (all other delays (for example animations like peeking, shooting etc) are random depending on how far away the next tick is so everything else is inconsistent). Which is way worse than just a fixed amount of delay which is the same every time.

[@NakedTrashPanda]

I only have 600 hours in the game, and 90% of that is spent in surf and bhop servers, I can always tell the difference when it comes to just movement alone. Also when he said that he could hear the difference with the AK, I was surprised because I thought I gaslit myself into thinking that years ago when I played MM.

[@PizdaMatiiiiiiiiiiii]

that burst is hela obvious, and 100% more obvious if you use crosshairstyle 5. Its legit slower on 64 tick.

[@tolgacam1907]

valve fanboys: "Nooooooooo, you cant tell the difference between 64 and 128 tick, theres only 7 ms per tick diff and even pros cant tell it" pro players:

[@tekno47]

clueless comment, you realise theyre talking about cs2 right?

[@arcticcmonkey]

This isn't "pro players". Ropz is probably the most qualified person for this test. He is one of the most mechanically gifted players and a KZ record holder. This test literally proved that a 3,5k elo player can't tell a difference. Which means 99% of the playerbase would fail this test. And you would aswell.

[@tolgacam1907]

@@arcticcmonkey I would fail this test? @natosaphix pls make the same video with me Even then even if not all pros would have been able to get 30/30, this video still proves that 128 tick is the better version

[@kutagen]

@@arcticcmonkey you're literally missing the point. IT IS POSSIBLE TO TELL THE DIFFERENCE BY FEELING ALONE. PROS CAN TELL THE DIFFERENCE. Valve rakes in billions every year from cases alone and still skimps on 128 like come the fuck on

[@jonasba2764]

​@@tolgacam1907 Anyone questioning whether 128 is better is a moron, the question is whether it's a big enough of difference to matter. I would still agree that it's probably worth it to go 128T though

[@georgekrumov1972]

Thank you for making him jump it properly at the end. It would have killed me to not see it. Banger vid.

[@ax-crazy]

Insane that he got all right. Shows his dedication to the game what a legend.

[@squatCS]

great video NaTo, sad they locked CS2s tick rate cuz i would love to see ropz test both tick rates on the new sub-tick system

[@zonathanplayz4445]

Doesn't faceit do 128 tick in CS2?

[@TheDecof]

​@@zonathanplayz4445valve hardcoded cs2 to 64tick after people posted data in reddit that faceit servers were 128tick

[@PLOJ]

@@zonathanplayz4445 no, they did but but valve locked all servers to 64 tick (presumably to stop an incentive to play faciet)

[@NOU-iw3gb]

​@@zonathanplayz4445 Faceit 128 tick was much better so to stop people from going to faceit, valve locked cs2 to 64 tick.

[@Nillowo]

@@NOU-iw3gbhonestly yeah lol

[@elrokk666]

love waiting for and watching videos about 128 tickrate in 360p

[@NaToSaphiX]

Should be a KZbin issue, video is somehow still processing 1 hour later

[@beniiboi69]

this is one of the best csgo videos ever

[@MichaelBulostin]

Smart experiment! 👏 well done

[@NaToSaphiX]

Appreciate the kind words ♥

[@philip0908]

Goord work and very interesting experiment -- thanks NaTo! ropz is wild.

[@QuadGod]

Its key to note that even those who would guess wrong could still subconciously be affected by the tickrate. Just because they cannot identify it, does not mean they cannot tell something is off without being able to place it.

[@FranzJx]

thats kinda crazy

[@x0tek]

So basically below the pro level, it's the same as random guessing

[@mrebbesen]

But, while casuals don't know what makes the difference, they will still be affected by it. Albeit, not very much.

[@crusaderonmeth454]

could be because they don't know what to look for, ropz did say that there is a delay in the sound when bursting/spraying.

[@meat.]

It’s not even pro level, it’s just those other two being tested were not very big on movement I’m guessing. It’s like ropz said, if you can bhop you can feel it. 64 tick hops you hit the ground later so you have to scroll a bit later. 128 tick you can scroll nice and early it feels crisp and fast. You can get equally consistent on both ticks, but since ropz is used to 128 (not scrolling late) he never hits the hops on 64 because he most likely doesn’t know you have to scroll later

[@NiceEvils]

lol nice reasoning, so based on such a small sample size we can come to your conclusion?

[@x0tek]

@@NiceEvils in a random sample of only 5, you can be (with 95% confidence) sure that the correct number falls between the highest and lowest values. A huge sample size is not required for confidence

[@hairo3x3]

what a banger video nato!! final ansurrr

[@hlnhd]

The idea of the video was very good. However, I must say that only 2 people are not enough to conclude that casual gamers cannot perceive the difference between a 128 and 64 tick rate. It would be very interesting to see this same experiment with at least 50 players who have more than 3,000 hours of gameplay.

[@msacco]

ropz is constructed by stuff of legends

[@raxOG-]

that actually convinced me that 128 DOES make a difference.

[@NaToSaphiX]

I was already convinced but this makes the case against 64 tick much stronger

[@AstreaTV_]

It's literally the opposite? If casual can't tell the difference why would valve care. @NaToSaphiX

[@tekno47]

@@NaToSaphiX*in csgo

[@raxOG-]

@@AstreaTV_ doesnt mean it shouldnt be changed. For me personally, it was always about responsiveness, quick actions that made me love cs. And it seems like valve will force 64 tick even for pros, which is a no-go anyway. They make alot of money, theres actually no reason not to upgrade the servers. I dont understand the debate. Theres no downsite to it. Only benefit.

[@AstreaTV_]

It obvious that 128t is better and all. All i'm saying is that valve probably wont do it, which is quite sad. Hope they make their subtick system really good@@raxOG-

[@badvf]

Everyone feels the difference, casuals just don't know what the difference is, either because of lack of mechanical skill or just knowledge about the game.

[@mareeeeeeeeeeeeeeee]

Great video! I would love to see another one with new test subjects, especially since ropz is clearly not human 😅

[@WatchoutNSG]

fps dropped by about 1-2 fps from 700 to 699 therefore 128 tick is unviable,(valves reasoning for not adding 128 tick), but valve go ahead and release the new game that nuke fps by 70%, great job guys

[@ubbystoned]

It's likely because more data will be sent and received per second on 64 tick Cs2 than in 128 tick Csgo. Upping the tickrate to 128 on cs2 would make this issue twice as large, and for those who don't have good Internet this would be a death sentence to enjoyable gameplay. It would end up feeling less smooth than 64 tick due to the lag.

[@NiceEvils]

nah stop coping and finding excuses for them, its a bullshit reason maybe made sense 10 years ago but not now.@@ubbystoned

[@ubbystoned]

@@NiceEvils Damn my bad, guess you know better 😊

[@m.n.s.s2825]

@@ubbystoned Good internet argument in 2023, LOL, I live in one of worst place to have internet and my speed is 10 mbps, More than enough to play CSGO or any kind of online games. 0 packet loss cause even a stable 1 mbps is good enough for online gaming and I have 10 times better than that L take granpa

[@ChrisBrown-ir6sf]

@@ubbystoned " TwIce As LaRgE" Meanwhile it sends few KBs of data per seconds even in 128, Call NASA internet to cope, Its too STRONK to handle xDDDD

[@g3volution]

Fantastic video well done. I know everyone is different, but I am only lvl 9 and supreme on csgo. I am not a movement god or anything so I would 50-50 the movement stuff, but just spraying it is so damn easy to tell,recoil is affected much more at a lower tickrate.

[@pyildiz0]

We want to see other pros go through this challenge. Great Video!

[@nevercaughtmeintheact]

who remembers natosaphix csgo lounge betting predictions man u made me so much money when i was 16 years old and had no clue who to bet on LMFAO u the best

[@NaToSaphiX]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA Run it back??

[@JoeMurray5]

Any idea about doing a video on sub tick? Thanks this was great

[@tebery23]

ropz just from another planet

[@jimvanerven]

I can always appreciate some thorough research!

[@ominarous]

the reason for this is actually that you cant input a +jump keybind 2 ticks in a row on csgo. It is impossible. It is an intentional limitation to nerf bhoppers. If you do, it will do nothing at all. And I believe that if you tried to input +jump for 10 consecutive ticks, you will not jump on any of them, because even though the +jump doesnt go off on 1 tick, the next tick still is locked out of +jump because you TRIED to input it on the last frame. It just so happens that it's not reasonable for a mousewheel to spin 128 times a second or faster, so even if you miss the exact tick that you landed on the ground for a perfect bhop, you still got pretty close and kept most of your speed. When you're down to 64 tick, it's easier to lock yourself out of the perfect tick and the ticks near it, and that's when you don't jump at all or jump late and lose a lot of speed.

[@jimmywest1]

I mean, CS is his job, It'd be kinda awkward if he couldn't feel the difference. However, getting 64-tick many times in a row he also started getting confused which in return means you also get used to playing like that. This is also tested in CSGO and not CS2.

[@kirinom-3129]

He started getting confused because he did not expect them to be so many in a row. That does not mean he didn't knew which server he was playing on. He literally said that, if you put him on a good server, he will know. It does not matter were it was tested because Ropz in the last month has made some interesting tweets like " 1)"Disclaimer: This is about tick-rate, not sub-tick. If Valve can make sub-tick better than 128t, that would make everyone happy. I hope they do." 2)Yeah this needs to be addressed. I sent this to Valve like a month ago, but not sure it is explained well. I know they said it was adjusted to be same as 128t in CS:GO, but it definitely isn’t. As a bhopper you simply don’t get stuck on the ground, which still happens in CS2 Premier matches. I don’t think it has anything to do with skill, even the best bhoppers would currently get stuck, the timing window to hit it is just too small. It’s simply inconsistent." 3)"Money shouldn’t be an issue here for Valve. If it’s a competitive game, I would expect to play in the best optimal environment. 128t isn’t anything ridiculous. I understand if the product is built around an average player, but this is CS. This isn’t just another game that comes out every other year, instead it’s one of the most competitive games of all time in existence. It deserves the highest quality. People have been playing 128t for 10 years now, I haven’t seen a single serious complaint about it being bad or people needing something better. They don’t need to provide it for everyone. Make people pay for it, whatever you’d like. There are so many different options which could work and make everyone happy." 4)While it may improve slightly, in the end that difference between 64t and 128t will definitely remain. I experience this all the time when I load up maps offline accidentally in 64t. The key differences will be the same whether it's better or worse servers. Spraying is different, bhopping is different, strafing and counter-strafing while tapping is different, not to mention hitreg. I think 128t is high enough for all of those things, having such small delay that it would be very rare to have a bad user experience even for skilled people. Praising 64t is a bit of a red flag 5) @ropz 18 sept. A reminder that I’ve criticised sub-tick since day 1, I’m not dickriding anyone.

[@jimmywest1]

@@kirinom-3129 TLDR?

[@auscaliber1]

This is a decent gimmicky experiment but it's not really conducted well enough (in terms of "scientific method", its a cool video for sure) to say its "safe to conclude" anything much, other than there clearly is a difference between the two. Ropz getting 100% is hard to explain otherwise. That also supersedes the conclusions of the other players - it doesn't matter much what my opinion is of a world cup soccer ball because I just don't know enough to know the meaningful difference. But if I play with a bad ball it still may effect me. My ignorance of its influence doesn't necessarily equate to it not HAVING an influence. You can't just handwave that and say "it doesn't matter" unless you're ropz. Additionally, Neok seems to have simply attached the wrong conclusion to what he was noticing, but he was still noticing it. that's what i think meant he did worse than the casual player. If you had run this once where you told them the tickrate, before then removing that knowledge so they had a reference to which is which, I bet he'd do far better. His negative correlation may just indicate him noticing things in the negative direction. Of course you'd have to run some more samples and maybe with some better practices (eg you probably shouldn't even speak to them, and if you do you certainly shouldn't know the answer) to really make a dent in figuring that out.

[@zilliq]

It's not only ropz guessing 100% but also him guessing in less than 2seconds each time. He then runs a few more tests to verify for good measure but everytime he said "this feels 64y" he then verified. He never went back from his initial impression.

[@daiei276]

Keep in mind this ignores subtick and the subtle difference between server actions and client-side animations. Interesting test, but I think those points are important for the CS2 debate.

[@PHYLOgg]

Why is this still being debated...? It's also more noticeable on a server vs players instead of just a local hosted server vs bots...

[@sebastianbinder8215]

It wasn’t locally hosted, he even said he used servers in different locations in Europe. By the way the result is unless you’re a pro player tick rate doesn’t matter since even a 3,5k elo player couldn’t tell. Only redeeming factor is the very limited sample size.

[@NiceEvils]

I think he just use vpn, also just cause one guy whos 3.5k couldn't tell doesn't mean everyone else wont be able to tell. That is some of the most flawed logic I've ever heard. @@sebastianbinder8215​

[@razorgarf]

And that's why Ropz is a pro

[@TriWaZe]

Funny thing for me is I can tell 64 from 128 by space bar bunnyhopping. On 64 I can successfully do it, less ticks more room for error. But scroll wheel jumping is harder. Then its vice versa on 128.

[@m9mykolkaaa]

of course ropz gets 30/30, he's literally a csgo developer

[@soyzeze]

ropz is a superior human

[@armeretta]

I'VE NEVER FELT SO VINDICATED BEFORE!!! Arguing with my non-faceit friends for years about 128 tick feeling completely different. I always knew because of spray control, feels completely jittery and uncontrollable on 64 tick

[@GoodStuffGS]

Doing the lords work thank you

[@J000GA]

this test is amazing! Thank you!

[@eldiablosmurf]

Im so excited to see t1 pros be forced to play 64tick!!!!!

[@infeCtedRonald]

WHAT A FUCKING GOD Ropzicle

[@s0m3_1]

It almost has the same vibe as when Steph Curry was dribbling and he missed the ball and instantly pointed out that for was bad

[@_m_i_t_i__n-m-8579]

Now causals can no loner use that argument “It was tested that people cannot feel the difference between 64 and 128 tick”

[@AnotherNobody1308]

Bro getting ropz on the test was the first mistake, he is an outlier, I would have been more convinced it was anybody else, still good video

[@HourRomanticist]

128 Tick with sub tick would be legendary.

[@Finnalychangedmyname]

"64 or 128?" *jumps once* "64"

[@KenzieNakamura]

Cs2 feels like a 10 tick Gameboy game 😂

[@frank6048]

Bro this test is so misleading you're not asking a "pro", you're asking a massive nerd of the game who also happens to amazing at movement. Other pros may fail this, but nerds like ropz would never fail. other massive nerd with good movement who would never fail this that comes to my mind would be M0nesy

[@MrLagzy]

I think any professional player that focus a lot of work into movement can give you a 10/10 on the first and third test. It's the spray test that really impressed me on Ropz. If I did this test I believe I would get average as well but if I put my mind to it and did all same kind of work as Ropz had, I believe I would be able to do the same or at least pretty close. practicing to figure out what the differences is - it becomes easier to spot the difference of course. Still it is really impressive what he did.

[@pax5072]

humans tend to give random answer when there is no life thread!

[@tiburc10]

Damn man, this video should not have been this long.

[@domh5126]

Absolutely mental he gets them all right, wow. I wonder what 256 tick is like...

[@n6uni]

I'm not playing unless they get 512 tick servers

[@diegohormazabal2541]

Bring back csgo

[@kiaming-174-08]

Estonia must got some aliens tech to produce a human-shaped robot 🤖

[@PizdaMatiiiiiiiiiiii]

i've done this test myself with friends and i can also tell the difference 100% but in different ways that was used in this video. Like ROpz, i know the 2 bullet burst difference he talks about. So the aim challenge i would of gotten right. But i got 0 movement so i couldn't fuckin tell based on a movement test. I play a 1v1 when i did my tests, shoulder peeking/jiggling fights. I can tell tickrate based on how i die/get shot. ANgle fights. And i am sad to say, but ive said this before. 'noobs' can't tell the difference. perhaps its the way i express myself that has always gotten me hate. But i knew i was always right. I'm sad it took so long to make a proper video with Ropz, Thank you. ofc there is a difference. not some placebo.

[@bloodbrother1000]

ropz got evrything right" so thats the proof volvo! PLS FIX

[@KHALID47]

great test unbiased fair shows in fact people who play the game know the difference.

[@dicraftio]

Maybe Neok got used to play 64tick since he started playing mm only 😅

[@DimaMzv]

Great video and editing!

[@proosee]

TBH no surprise here. While I think for casual games 64 is enough then for competitive it was always around/above 100 in any FPS game - no matter it was CS:GO, CS:S, CS 1.6 or even Quake 3. You can cover up how many times per second you update the game state via some sub-tick magic and you maybe get the movement right, but internally the game will be less precise or it will just feel strange.

[@ManchmalGaming]

Good to know for the people who will keep playing CSGO instead of CS2.

[@JustaRandomGuy890]

Ropz is literally insane

[@themadeagle8]

Ropz 🐐🐐🐐

[@Revaaz]

Thank you for your service

[@romeskiie]

For me shooting in 128 tick feels like I'm shooting objects that have mass, in 64 feels like I'm shooting paper targets. I could have never told the difference between 128 and 64 if it was movement. Good for RopZ for being consistent in all categories of fundamental Counter-Strike.

[@lexotaku]

ropz is a monster

[@dimecs2]

You don't have to be good to realize 64 tick is trash compared to 128 tick. This isn't anything groundbreaking

[@dimecs2]

I switch between both and it's night and day. From bhopping to shooting. 64 tick takes away from skilled players

[@NiceEvils]

yeah and same with sub tick, its a buff to casuals and a nerf to the people who grinded for years@@dimecs2

[@M370gg]

It’s not even pro vs non pro really, ropz said it himself, anyone that can bhop can instantly tell, and they ak spray/burst is a dead give away, again like he said, I dont care if they don’t use 128 in mm, but don’t lock the entire game to 64, you alienate a huge part of your player base doing that

[@mrhydromr]

i love this episode of the pricemaster

[@vizquelw]

i would've known... surely i would've known. surely...

[@__Who-am-i__]

Great video, Nato, great planning for the test 👏 Thinking about different pings is something I rarely see on similar videos. Also, Ropz is a fkn best 👏 And here's a suggestion that i think would be interesting (in my mind at least).. All people talk about shooting, spraying and peeking in cs2 but noone has tested different pings, cuz i really feel like my high ping is affecting the spray a bit In other words, what would it REALLY feel like for both players (high and low ping) to play against each other?

[@kelvinini]

very interesting that probably only the top people will suffer

[@1337panic]

very cool and interesting video concept

[@Earpugs]

ropz goat'd

[@MarvoldX]

tickrate really matters for movement,, and speaking as a movement player, let me tell u the deference by giving an example hight world record long jump in 64t is 250, in 128t its 257 avarage people's long jump in 64t is 237 - 240 "nobind" while in 128t is 240-245 avarage better than avarage players long jump in 64t is 245-247, while in 128t is 250-253 . if u think thats a little well, its huggggge different,, thats only for long jump and how wide the strafes are in 128t u can go wide, thats why 360 jumpbug is a thing and one of the mechanics 64t if u did 360 jumpbug well u r one of the best "idk if its even possible" . 128t u r more time in air than 64t bunnyhopping in 128t is waaaaaay easier than 64t jumpbugging in 64t should be easier than 128t but not in cs2, its impossibley hard . and jumpbugs wr "maybe not updated info" for 128t is like 280 while in 64t is 270 . my point is, there is BIG NOTICABLE DIFFERNET between 128t and 64t,, cs2 did 64t but worse when it comes to movement, which is something pissing me of