7.2.5 Tanks Ranked! Changes, Winners And Losers In World Of Warcraft Legion Tomb Of Sargeras

[@BlackPenzo]

I play brewmaster only to spam the "hold my beer" joke everytime I pull and only 9/10 groups kick me for that so it's totally worth it.

[@HipsterMcFresh]

BlackPenzo or one of my favorites coming to the raid totally shitfaced because you are "RolePlaying"

[@Universe_996]

Hahahahahah

[@BlackPenzo]

Btw can I point out how awesome Taliesin and Evitel are that they actually read through these comments and mark/ answer a whole lot of them despite the fact that they have such a good upload schedule and are farely big by now? Major props for that!

[@Zombiemouse2204]

You fucking Legend

[@GaryMoFknOak]

"Hold my beer while I drink 20 more beers during this pull!" Lmao love that logic

[@Carliona4life]

Okay, so my vengeance demon hunter is 110 and I still haven't gotten a quest to go to King Kai's planet to learn Spirit Bomb... :\

[@magnussvik3862]

''Diving to the wreck of the titanic to add a few more lifeboats'' Wp Taliesin, that one got me good haha

[@NattyFlump]

Great reason for a sponsored video and a good cause to support :) Videoblocks has seemingly allowed Evitel to eclipse Michael Bay's directorial skills in less than 5 minutes, so it can't be half bad! Any chance you can save the Transformers movies next?

[@ilovetrainallday]

prot warrior are pretty strong now.. did mythic nighthold pug, and was healing 551HPS on scorpien, 422k on chrono.. highest ive done before that was 450ish k on guldan hc.. so i can feel that my ignore pain are a bit stronger.. in fact i feel a bit stronger, and with the nerfs on druids and monks, i see warriors being topish now for raids..

[@CorruptFaery]

I still think prot warrior needs a more reliable self heal so you don't have to have the legendary wrists.

[@lucas_qin]

I played Brewmaster and Blood DK (all 4t19 and around 903) and only play tanks. Generally speaking, I hate druid, they are so versatile and have no1 tank and heal in Raid and Myth+. Typhoon talent is so helpful for tanks to do affix, some pro druid can also dps in the fight since DK doesn't really need healing in myth+. And Rez, you know that, i know that, everybody knows that... When I do myth+, I only invite Druid(1st), Shaman, Mist, Pal(2nd). And when I saw a priest healer in the group, i knew that GL is a noob.

[@kingymech]

you really make me laugh, good video.

[@Jimmothytv]

wow. I was incredibly touched by the sponsorship money being donated to cancer research. You are truly wonderful people.

[@karthadastim]

What?? Stupid cancer is getting money that could be used for more videos...lame. JK. Awesome idea, good for you guys.

[@Dovahnuke]

Erika von der Dees wtf lol?

[@WorgenGrrl]

She's probably one of those Gamergate $luts.

[@kostas8537]

oh yeah cause everyone knows that if one plays wow an hour a day when he or she is not out makes them a total looser right?

[@King_of_the_Axe]

+toastman444 I think you're trying to communicate but I have no idea why language this is

[@King_of_the_Axe]

+Psycoholic2008 It takes five seconds to make fun of us, but it also takes five seconds to make yourself look like a nïeve child. If you think you're special and that you're going to change the world than you're a damn fool. Life isn't sweet. And the odds of any of us making a difference is little to none. So who the fuck cares if I spend my life ENJOYING my time behind my computer screen? Not a single goddamn person. And not a single goddamn person cares what you're doing either. Welcome to life. It sucks

[@Narakiomal]

Please never stop with the BC jokes,they are too precious.

[@MrMadmaxi77]

the invincible theme playing while talking about the blood dk made my day. loved it! :)

[@CallieCEntertainment]

lol, ok....I've obviously lost my mind. The intro, I swear I saw Evitel dancing with David Tennant.

[@skywise8]

You're both so obviously wrong. I am amazed that you didn't recognize Charlie Cox, aka Daredevil.

[@wraith4503]

Holy fucking shit ur not wrong, I was thinking the same exact thing. I was like ''Is this the dude from ''Jessica Jones'' series??? Then I had to google him to find out the name, afterwards I saw your comment, twins for sure

[@skoufis173]

the warrior part got me triggered with all these fears going off

[@TaliesinEvitel]

+Skoufis lol yeah tell me about it XD

[@ArcherOrant]

Go, go, go, go, go!

[@ArcherOrant]

Also I approve of your continued use of SaO music.

[@sombrego2260]

That trailer is pure genius though

[@YourTechGerman]

The Titanic joke XD I completely lost it hahahahahaha

[@willgoodey9570]

Had a bit of a crappy day so it was nice to get home and actually see my name thanked in one of your videos and then you're being excellent again by giving your sponsorship money away. I mean, laughs and a good cause too. Really love the videos as ever. Please do one on the Chromie scenario as I'm sure you have an amusing take on that.

[@selwrynn6702]

That videoblocks video you made should fade to black at the end then "obviously" should pop up and that's where it ends

[@CallieCEntertainment]

Agreed, I was waiting for "Obviously" :D

[@Wightnish]

The soul cleave buffs for DH are close to irrelevant, because the bomb almost completely pushes it of our bar. Which also means that currently both t19 2p and 4p aswell as t20 4p are basically obsolete.

[@senarmthefarmer305]

I'm happy to watch sponsored content if the money is going to good use. Donating it to cancer research, Yeap that's a good use, that's personal to me outside of WoW and WoW related as well. RIP Hayven

[@ukranianmouse1331]

description says atch 7.2.5......Nother judging.....just ssaying..

[@-Miasimon]

Just going to throw it out there, that there are some flat out amazing DH tanks. If you find a good one, then half the time you'll think you brought a bear who is slightly undergeared.. which is a pretty significant compliment, imo. I honestly believe that the reason there is such a stigma against DH tanks is because.. well.. it's the "noob" class of Legion. In Wrath, that roll was filled by the DKs.. they were OP, yes, but there were so many people not knowing what the hell they were doing.

[@gorkskoal9315]

Re: ProtPali THE problemS? Pruning. for me what made them... just YAR up to MOp was how just plain fun and darn nice the spec felt. Their artifact spells for me are seriusly a case of: What the heck are they going for and try to do. Pruning is the at the heart of all these problems. Prot pali doesn't feel like a good ol fation super hero without heals and shields. Scater the Shadows doesn't help Titans Light. They were in a bettER place in MOP for just fun. Brewmaster in MOP was also just fun and could be there with a proper healing brew and gaurd brew and statue. Also: Activision. Their BOD and CEO Robert Kolick are infamously ginormous jerks.

[@xenoblad]

wow! bears lost a whole ability mid expansion! That's pretty rare and it looks a bit excessive IMO, but I play monk so I can't complain.

[@TheWizard258]

As a Vengeance main, I must say that the buff's been insane, both my damage and healing got pretty much doubled. Got my ST dps up to >600k now.

[@confusedpebble6265]

Man, I really hope Veng doesn't get nerfed hard. It feels so good now to just rack up a bunch of shards and hurl it at everything around you. It's so fast paced and flexible, i really really like it compared to 7.2 and it scares me with how heavy handed Blizz is with nerfs. Just hoping people don't flock to it or anything, just let it be under the radar.

[@TheWizard258]

Confused Pebble Yeah, we were waiting for a buff since the patch release. I really do hope it stays as it is now.

[@MrDre10day]

What talents u use?

[@TheWizard258]

MrDre10day Razor Spikes, Burning Alive/Feast of Souls (depending on the fight), Felblade, Fracture, sigils depend on the instance, Spirit Bomb and Last Resort

[@PinePizza]

is it still fun?

[@lifesmythtv2608]

It's funny how I always have to spam the pause button to catch all your jokes and anecdotes. Major respect for the sponsor money usage.

[@phaton89]

Playing a Vengeance Demon Hunter right now feels really, really, really good in Mythic+. Even in Mythic raids I've felt so drastically improved and viable. Now if only they could do something about Havoc.

[@TaliesinEvitel]

+Mackenzie Reeves Yep the tuning on V right now is crazy. I'd expect a Spirit Bomb nerf incoming :(

[@itsVilu]

33% SB dmg nerf coming in next hotfix and maintenance

[@NorthWolf97]

Giving a class a buff only through a legendary RNG item is possibly the most stupid shit ever. Blizz hates Blood DKs... ;/

[@TaliesinEvitel]

DivineLight I've been playing quite alot of blood since the patch and it really does feel stronger though, don't you think?

[@NorthWolf97]

The only difference I've noticed is the bonus from my BIS legendaries and switching to Blooddrinker talent. Otherwise it's no real change other than that of item drops and tier slots. Which is all RNG based.

[@raytubaugh7021]

I actually love you guys. Been watching you guys forever and you have some of the best if not the best WOW videos on the internet. #ThankYouForTalkingForAllOfUsNormalPlayers

[@TaliesinEvitel]

+Ray Tubaugh Hey thanks, appreciate you taking the time to write thus Ray, it means a lot :)

[@TaliesinEvitel]

* this obvs XD

[@andrewlacosse2096]

Good video. Regardless of Veng being what it is, I love the play style. I've definitely noticed the damage buff overall too :D

[@gorkskoal9315]

Finally fuck needing to have a teir bonus for ANY spec to fun. they must be fun WITHOUT them

[@gorkskoal9315]

And screw needing oranges to make a tank spec feel solid and fun. That'sbout the most dilly and asanine thing to do.

[@Osfrie]

I'm OK with the DK myself. I rerolled to it from a Destro lock anyway. But, the lack of mobility isn't too hindering, I feel. As for damage taken, yeah it's a pain... if Icebound Fortitude didn't have such a huge cd, it probably wouldn't be so bad. But hey ho. Come Tichondrius, I'll be using a couple on use defensives to try survive as best as possible XD

[@TheHeywiz]

Fuck, I love you guys.

[@Manicca]

The druid nerfs made it mandatoyry to pick Bloodfrenzy, otherwise it's IMPOSSIBLE to keep -ANY- stacks of Ironfur up AND get Gore. We now have WAY less active ways to mitigate things AND we're bullied into specific talents. Every other tank, I got all of them at 110, is easier, by far. I have NO idea how anyone else has so many issues with their othertanks.... I have NO idea why you guys keep saying "DH isn't welcome in pugs", one of our main tanks is a DH. People just can't play the other classes, is my take, and I have watched top rank druids play and a lot of them I find myself sitting: "Why didn't you use that talent, why didn't you do this, why did you stand in that" etc same goes for the other classes So in MY opinion: People are just terrible at any other class than Druid, and Druids are getting nerfed to shitville because you guys don't know how to optimise your other classes and rather whine about druids who were FINE. Lazy picks of top tier guilds: Druid, and they still fail at it, tbh.

[@MXFoX408]

i actually like playing Prot Warrior, last time I logged into this toon was in BC at level 29 as a twink as arms, and was a god at that level. so leveling from 30-110 kind of blew but was easy with insta q's for dungeons as a tank and I was suprised at how I actually enjoyed warrior tanking. loving it this xpac. nice video

[@brandonheld9804]

On Vengence Demon Hunters: "OK, so it's unlikely that mythic raid guilds are going to be beating a path to your door begging you to bring your massively overpowered tanks to the Tomb of Sargeras." Um, that's EXACTLY what it looks like is about to happen. www.warcraftlogs.com/statistics/11#class=Tanks&sample=7&region=3&dataset=95

[@makedragon]

how to solve Blood DK mobility problem: 1. get your haste up to 40% 2. equip Aggramar's stride (you don really need the other legendary buffs as you already are inmortal) 3.get Sephuz. 4. enjoy watching how you out every single other class in the game and people getting mad because " you are not supposed to be fast" haha

[@hamburger-fries]

My wife has cancer. She and several people who also have cancer have been reducing cancer cell growth where the non-cancer cells out grow the cancer cells. Cancer cells attack / mutate damaged cells and the #1 way to reduce this process is to eliminate inflammation in the body. No wheat, no fried foods, no sugar. Ketogenic diet with extreme nutrition, weekly Vitamin-C-IV's, CBD oil, direct sunshine on bare skin, exercise, low stress (keep away from people who piss you off :-). In addition people should get monthly blood tests to see what nutrient deficiencies you have and correct with vitamins. This does NOT cure cancer but instead reduces the grow or advancement of the cancer to a minimum. Basically you cant get rid of the cancer root-system that under microscope looks much like a root system in a plant. We are seeing people with baseball size tumors (like stomach cancer) reduced to a tiny root system and every doctor has a drop jaw look on their face. Please get your body strong before you consider surgery or chemo / radiation.

[@Irishdwarf93]

i LOVE the first UI from the bear clip!! :D can you please let me know what addons did this person use? the health bar, cooldowns, the chat, the groupe, dmg meter, map,... everything looks soooo good :) i really would like to copy it. and btw, great video again ^^

[@claytonclark1031]

You're heroes in my book fighting for the cure for cancer like that. I especially like the way you did the running sequence doing the heroic slow run. That was a pretty cool action sequence it was like Mission Impossible except with A-list movie stars. Well you'll always be A-LIST!

[@cronk3468]

You see, I see these videos. I go play a class. And these videos do not even touch on things I am capable of doing with said Class. Meh. I play Protection Warrior, Blood DK, BM Monk, and V DH. So, yea. Vengeance is the squishiest of all. I will have to playtest him after patchings.

[@mbashasyed]

A Blood DK tanked a 11+ with the rest of us cheering from our corpses last week... about 25% of Helya's health... So, yeah... I'm ashamed as a Bear...

[@doubtingdidymus6064]

The very first thing that I do when I get home from work is check your videos. They are clever and genuine and they truly provide some much needed levity after a long day. So I say thank you for all of your clearly evident hard work and I cannot wait for your next video. (Oh and the fact that you so genuinely care about WoW and the WoW community is seriously a breath of fresh air in an otherwise, unfortunately, toxic world). Please, please, please, keep up your amazing work.

[@k01dsv]

Blood DK's biggest problem is by far their dmg. Movement isn't too important, since we can outheal most of the sh*t we get hit by, because of this lacking movement. But seeing a guardian druid do 10x more dmg than me, is just depressing >.

[@aidonblack9633]

You forgot to mention Blood Dk t2 Talent Heart of Frost synergy whit Shifting Cosmic Sliver. Thats Basicly 30% dmg reduction for avarage 38-40 sec.

[@tolkhTV]

Bear tanks are winners...

[@brutalbeautyandthebirds]

Unless you are in end game content rounding the 110 mark, Protection Warriors got screwed, those of us not 110, that are not doing major raids or have super fantastic gear are taking a hard hit , oh its ok you get a great ring..yeah when? what the bloody hellO do the rest of us non= 110s do until then -__- eh, but its whatever all classes get something to pitch a fit about im over it.

[@taikishi]

Prot paladin ring actually isn't that good, in part because of the stats and abilities you give up from other legendaries (including Sephuz). The shoulders, otoh, are probably the second best legendary.

[@666Abe666]

HELLO how is the addon in the center of the screen called, which displays your hp with all the cooldowns around it? THANKS YOU

[@irllcd13]

The moment I wanted to play a bear tank was in BC when the bear OT was outdamaging the rets by, like, a lot. But in BC ret was kind of a joke. Our pally officer was kind of a douche and played ret.

[@IanPune]

Gotta love the band of drunkards. I love the monk class. Too bad the majority of players disagree with me.

[@Chidy398]

I'm perfectly fine with you two doing sponsored content and keeping the money, you do this as a job and you need to make money. my only stipulations would be that like this video you make it obvious that it is sponsored content and you don't let it affect the content. if you're doing a game review sponsored by the company that makes it... that's shitty, but if you have someone sponsor a video you were going to make anyway I don't see why that's a bad thing.

[@Sharadix]

How do you consider pala tank god tier in m+ when not even 1 tank paladin is in the top 100 runs. Death knights and druids completly dominated high m+ because palas have small life pools andno battlerez.

[@Silzaress]

You guys are so lovely and funny. Last time I played WoW was a year ago and I don't read or watch anything about it ever since then....except your videos.

[@wraith4503]

I hope this doesn't sound weird coming from a guy, but I find it quite entertaining listening to your voice, and your stupid-funny lines. Good content, lots of laughs. Thanks

[@petervillent5573]

3:02 - what? Great t20 4piece? As a Blood myself, looking at my friends Demo bonuses I disagree.

[@MatthewGalon]

I dont know if this is just temporary during this hotfix week but the change to 35% on ironskin brew isn't live on my brewmaster it still gives the 40%

[@MrNisse5]

Vengeance DHs are doing some ridiculous dmg, a friend of mine tanks for a mythic guild and did 1M deeps on Mythic Krosus. That's insane.

[@emmsnake]

I already casually play a brewmaster, and I wanted to get the druid for that sweet mage tower skin (RIP Saberon, this will have to do (due?).

[@sillyredsheep2421]

Invincible ST being played during the DK review... *sniff sniff* I cri evertim...

[@Flix-102]

I love how you're talking about Berserker rage, and then the warrior gets feared and does not use it.. The only use that ability has without the t20 bonus, and he forgets it. Sigh.

[@mayday1967]

Good and entertaining video, helpfull and informative, brought in a very good humoristic way. love you both.

[@FoeReaper]

Sorry but 15 percent does almost nothing, it should have been something like 30 percent buff honestly how the fuck are we still at t he bottom after the buff.

[@semipork]

"Nothing feels better than being right on KZbin. You should be thanking me for being right and you're welcome." haha tys for the lol Taliesin

[@SE-so3rk]

youtubers like you are saving wow and making money for blizzard by providing more bull expansions. Good work.

[@Peacheypeach1337]

HOLD UP HOLD UP! That kid you have a picture of went to the same high school as me, WHAT THE HELL

[@johnd5574]

Love you guys for remembering Hayven and for supporting cancer research.

[@matthewbreen1951]

I heart the Bill Cosby jokes as much as wine tasting night at Bill Cosby's place. At least, I think I do.

[@danielp.9948]

i laughed my ass on the UNignored pain moment. Lad, may be this is an old joke, but ive never heard it. Thank u, for making my day :3

[@TeslaStrike]

WTF "It was a shit show" OBVIOUSLY? WHERE IS IT? WHERES OUR OBVIOUSLY? WE NEED IT.

[@kn0bhe4d]

"Flat track bully".....cricket references in a WoW video, Kreygasm

[@filipfenix]

Spirit bomb increases your aoe dps by around 1-2 mil dps , Mythic+ kings of kings.

[@KiraAcoh]

This is the one xpac I didn't roll a tank... and now I regret not rolling a tank.... My bear would be so pleased.

[@LordBufu]

I was like wtf are they using the money for, then i read the description and actually had a little tear rolling over my cheeck, im rather speechless now :P

[@kgb3310]

@13:54 Shitshow, without "obviously" does not resonate as it should... but great vid anyways!

[@GuanTones]

its kinda weird seeing prot warriors being so bad as for me when i play vanilla and tbc Daily where they are the ''main tank''

[@natetroxide]

Congrats on the sponsor, and another great video. My guilds tanks are warrior and dk, so I'm interested to see how ToS goes XD

[@Leandro-4687]

I did not find this 9% nerf u told Demon Hunter recived in oficial patchnotes by Blizzard.

[@hamburger-fries]

Thanks great post!!!! I love how you are making money in a fun creative way. Cheers!

[@Mokatsukii]

I am early. You are both babes. Its amazing.

[@CalebeZacai]

Kaleb M. Kaleb 🤔

[@johnconstantine192]

Things that apply to the top of the top of the top end raiding do not apply to the rest of the playerbase. DH and DKs are fine for 99% of all raid teams.

[@Rikotsu1]

hey Taliesin you forgot the RJW change for brewmasters. it has more duration now.

[@sebastianrode7425]

FINALLY!!! been waiting for this vid since the meelee dps one....

[@steepgnomeking]

Does anyone know where the Warrior footage is from? Those addons look really helpful for tanking and was wanting to get an idea of what they are.

[@rjwgraves1]

Been watching since 14k subs, when did you guys blow up so much?!! Happy.

[@Gorlokki]

How can we send you gifts? I love your channel and would like to give you something in return :)

[@walrusstudios3319]

My already high respect for you just tripled with your donation to charity for all money from the sponsor.

[@derfla1292]

I love you 2 and your vids; fantastic use of the sponsor money and a nice gesture to put it in the name of Hayven Games!

[@VValkyr]

Wasn't the paladin from palading gameplay named heyven? D: Am i losing my mind?

[@ThePhantomist]

As a cutting edge Blood DK, I can safely say you are incorrect about blood Taliesin!

[@SensationalBanana]

Druid wins purely based on that amazing challenge artifact appearance!

[@brumman1963]

Just love the videos u guys create, making wow fun and interesting. Keep it up!

[@JenniferCally]

Yay about time

[@starfox9000]

does anyone remember when druids didnt need healers it was during cata or when DKs can out run almost anyone it is was during cata

[@DaysofDead]

Hey guys! Nice video as always and good luck in Tomb: The guy from germany

[@TheJapanesesteel]

The picture of the "Hotel" you put in is right by my house! yay for something I know

[@ivanhermal]

i love how cute your wifes is... u are a lucky guy my friend, big hug from Mexico to u

[@cada1para1]

Good on you, thanks for doing something for Hayven. Keep up the good work.