7.7mm EDC pump fitment to a STOCK W210 E300td DYNO results

[@johnparrish9215]

I love these long videos, a tremendous amount of value.

[@rtg0616]

£1100 for that is incredible. That EDC is a piece of art, beautiful.

[@danielsvamp]

1100 pounds for that is an absolute scam. My opinion.

[@johncunningham4820]

@@danielsvamp . What ? 46 more hp and higher Torque with no other Mods , other than a Sensor , is a scam ? How so ? Please explain..........

[@danielsvamp]

@@johncunningham4820 If you put it that way, it's even worse, lol. What I'm saying is, in my opinion, the parts and labour is nowhere near worth 1100 GBP.

[@johncunningham4820]

@@danielsvamp. So build your Own Pump then . But don't Cry if it ends up being garbage and damages your Engine . Specialist knowledge costs a Bit of Money . That pump has about 90 % higher Fuel rate that the Stock one .

[@johncunningham4820]

@@DanielGutierrez-zu9fv. Core " Cost " you mean . In case you DON'T have a Core to exchange .

[@northyorkshireuk1]

Iv just learned so much from your video mate big time and got the confidence to do bigger engine jobs myself. One thing I've learned as a cable jointer in Yorkshire most power cuts are localised failures are caused by aluminium cable directly connected to copper cable with copper grease as it was done that way for a good few years, we use special grease now and believe it or not Mercedes actually sell there equivalent version £50 for a tiny put ffs they use it on injector body's il post you the Yorkshire electric version (ce electric) massive tubes i dont pay for.

[@tonyclark150]

You could try loosening the fuel lines at the injectors one at a time while cranking the engine until fuel squirts out of them. It will save the starter instead of cranking and cranking until all that air in the lines is compressed enough to open the injectors. Usually after bleeding about the first 3 or 4 injectors it will start up. About 1% of the cranking time to do it this way. Just a suggestion and always enjoy the videos.

[@boostaddict_]

I can usually get by with doing this with or injection line in a 4 cylinder VP pumped VW diesel, sometimes 2. Definitely works.

[@fazicapone6931]

@tonyclark150. This guy build pumps and your telling him how to bleed the system.what do you think? He doesn't know that.

[@EngineEngineer]

​@@fazicapone6931um he is right you wanchor

[@lyndonwebber1389]

He builds pumps for a living , I would think he knows how to prime a fuel system.

[@AndyViv]

The only people that losen injector lines are always the people who arent real diesel techs😂

[@IvanovSuperturbodieselProjects]

For remap for any configuration,can help)7.7mm pump good for +-550hp))

[@anzyi1]

50:18 nice pressure at crank case you can see the dipstick rise :D

[@wilsonnw]

I've installed one 180 degrees out. We thought it was a lift pump or air issue as it cranked for ages, but then it fired right up and drove around the shed 🤣🤣 made about 10hp and hosed the bores down. Fixed now obvi.

[@ben_adam8277]

Still good people teaching for free.GOD bless you. If only you have some glasses with camera and light it will do great videos

[@Gazika1984]

Luke,please..can you make video for us who bought 7,7mm plungers from you where will be seen what is max hp with 7,7mm in mechanical pump thanks! I know this is not only my willing to see that👍🙏

[@AlienLivesMatter]

17:21 good advice for most things

[@N.D.J.S.]

a very very good mechanic! like him and his work👍

[@cullenmiller8170]

Nice video and thanks for all the time you set aside for the teaching moments.

[@wilsonnw]

And another self-own - have unknowingly dropped an injector line plastic clip in the intake and ended up with a valve that wouldn't fully close. Such fun... And don't get me stared on glow plugs!

[@MycketTuff]

Looked for a short clip to watch with my breakfast, I guess we're making it a feast

[@coreyellisart6877]

So here's a story before I move from North Carolina I sold my 87 Mercedes om603 when I got here to Arizona I was looking around found a 87 went down to purchase it looked it over it was super clean my wife had the title the guy left because we're meeting up in the parking lot and I realize it was a 1990 om602. I wanted a 87 because I wanted to install P pump from a Cummins which has 12 mm plungers or what you call Elements. Have you ever thought about running a Cummins P pump

[@gerardoenriquelopezurquia89]

Great video, Is a great project and pretty good learning. Those engines are masterpieces. I love my Diesel OM617. Never miss your videos! Thanks

[@marshallborges9606]

Pac and Biggie. Great poster! Oh, and great video and info. Just acquired my OM606 turbo. Can't wait to start getting some goods from you. Cheers!

[@91rss]

re pumps a shipper said if you put mineral oil in any fuel component, it precludes you filling any dangerous goods paperwork out, as its non flammable.non toxic apparently

[@BlackhawkPilot]

On older Mercedes 6 cyl diesels the injector pump outlet pipes had to be torqued three times. The technical manual said to torque them down, loosen and re-torque three times. If you didn’t you could often have a rough running engine.

[@mobius972]

Great content, If you do plan to upgrade the turbo, could you do another Dyno run and show us the steps of power increase with each mod? Always learn alot from your videos, thanks for taking the time and effort to make them. I'm looking for an OM606 here in the states, to install into A full size 4x4, and then "Bob's your Auntie" I'll have close to the perfect truck, alot like your Ford, but your videos are making them more expensive and harder to find.....Looking forward to the next one.

[@gavinferguson]

not sdure if you have found away round the needle lift injectors which seem to be impossible to get serviced or new for the landrover version

[@Cappy-bf5rz]

Just buy the whole car its cheaper

[@jasoncampbell4723]

Excellent info on modding an EDC pump. Always love your content Luke.

[@alkhashtee]

Thank you very much for the most informative video, but how come you didn't use the wireless RODE mic? The noise make me really angry 😠

[@ukdrive4082]

Could you do a video explaining what you can do for an M57?

[@MrDeadline34]

I might trade one of my Jdm cars for a W210 soon it looks pretty clean 200k miles om606 td looking to make around 300 to 400whp stock if I do get it after I enjoy it stock for awhile. Hopefully your videos can keep teaching me. Im in America so these are hard to find so I’m willing to trade my sw20 for it

[@ghost-wm1hw]

W210 always rot in the rear wheel wells, good solid engine but suffers from plastic pipe fuel leaks causing back flow

[@eagleabram4016]

Thank you so much for the invaluable information. Please tell me is there a key slot on the injection pump sprocket/gear for aligning the IP (similar to the crankshaft woodruff key way)? Also, do you have om602 5 cylinders IP for the upgrades or remanufacture?

[@harvindermanku4703]

u r old school new technology in me

[@frosthoe]

Thank you for the info. learning quite a bit from you. 😋

[@th.schrader9946]

Very Very Nice, says Tom from Germany

[@iamroad6299]

In the Porsche world the experienced rebuilders say never use a metal impeller water pump because if the bearing in the pump starts to fail the metal impeller will eat away at the block vs. the plastic impeller breaking. Both failures are bad. @dieselpumpuk have you ever seen metal impellers grind away at the block?

[@DieselPumpUK]

The water pump sits in a separate aluminium housing so cannot come into contact with the block. Also no I have never seen a water pump bearing failure in this platform thankfully.

[@iamroad6299]

@@DieselPumpUK Good to know. Much better design then.

[@siraff4461]

The box is changing harder because it builds more pressure when its under more load. Thats why if you potter about it will feel like stock. If you put more torque through it it will change harder still. Only downside is it will eventually reach a point where it can't build enough pressure and it will slip. That may need quite a bit of power though. They're pretty tough boxes.

[@DieselPumpUK]

Interesting suggestion but not the reason in this case. Hard shift is caused by the indifference in wheel speed.

[@TheGamerFiFtIn]

A lot of people don’t know that the pump coasts more than the car 🤣🤣

[@Akya2120]

Personally, I would rebuild my injectors before I went off and did the injection pump. DPUK probably did, but I'm just saying, fresh injectors, then pump. If you're shooting for over 300hp pin the crank and cam. 300 might be low, but I'd rather be conservative on the build.

[@adventurousairman]

Great video, thank you for the details!!!

[@jurica549]

So with this 7.7mm pump and a hydro turbo what hp could we expect? Or which turbo to consider if we want to use a stock 722.6 transmison and have no troubles?

[@Johns51]

Great video I’m considering this engine type in my Volvo 240 .. Top job

[@BlueXonar]

Can you delete the EGR on the W210 without the ECU getting cross and throwing codes? Or do you need a modded ECU? Thanks for the video, I was expecting to skip through it but I watched the whole thing. Very informative and no fluff!

[@yy900yy]

You are a brilliant mechanic. I would like your advice. I have an engine (350) (OM603) on a Mercedes (W140). The engine head broke down and I cannot find out what you would advise me to do as an alternative engine. Thank you.

[@dirkkelly9596]

Awesome can’t wait to see more of this👍👍

[@txgent72]

My question is regarding the effect of the added horsepower on the head and pushrods of 603 and 606 engines. Great videos as always. Chris

[@Howie672]

I so wanna polish those lights ;)

[@deanwaring6100]

Thanks for sharing your knowledge 😊

[@paulstapfer7192]

Love this content, can't wait for the next video!

[@vaislaj]

Listen to those injectors, need start of injection adjusted for sure

[@oleksandr9415]

Great work man! I wery wont work with you.!👍👍👍🧑‍🔧

[@noahsgarage4806]

I have your DPUK intake, exhaust manifold and borgwarner 257sxe + turbosmart wastegate. Plus Treacy ECU ready for install. I figured I would put that stuff on, then do pump, plastic lines, water pump, pin crank. Great content as usual! Could you do more dyno runs with those parts on? We would like to see what each mod does on dyno plus EGTs.

[@bahar9075]

I need a Treacy ECU can you tell me his contact ?

[@noahsgarage4806]

@bahar9075 I have chips to install as I add turbo, injection pump ect. Just swapped it in, and it does baby burnouts now.... till stock MAP sensor maxes out and cuts fuel.

[@brhakram3106]

Good but why you didn't pump the diesel with manuel method befor you turn on the engine. it's bad for the engine 😕

[@simastautkevicius1372]

Not gonna lie the first thought that went to my head was that you put in a 7.7mm machine gun in the merc, on a fuel pump 😅😅😅

[@pedrodias5738]

Great content really, I became an addicted to this channel. Do you have any solutions for a E290TD with the Bosch VE rotary EDC injection pump? I have a wagon with that and it's running great, I love the direct injection it starts better than any diesel car I know but I would like to see what options are available in terms of IP

[@Domitech74]

12mm plunger or resitance 400ohms (adjustable is beeter) between 2 and 3 cable with 11mm stock plunger

[@daytonstokes6900]

I am having a hard time identifying a edc bosch pump with a blue id plate than the black plated oem.the blue edc looks identical to the black label edc pump.trying to keep this simple .i have tried every way on google to find a answer what is the blue vin tagged edc pump go to is it a na om606 or a early model om606 td.

[@briangerber4244]

Thanks. I want to build a 606 for my hotrod truck, where do I start, budget limited

[@the_keeponbuilding]

If i could i would bring my w115 /8 to build a e300td engine in it..

[@nickhill1279]

You missed out on some of the pieces per item why is that for ?

[@Freejoeyb]

Which way to turn the pump to get it the marker in the middle ? Clockwise I assume?

[@daytonstokes6900]

Been a yr time for a update on pump and shift plate ???how it is holding up?

[@tylershenenberger8112]

Do you guys ship to the USA thinking of building something soon

[@tlatif373]

How are you for bookings now I need a non edc pump fitting which I have also wanting the pump tweaked with 7.7 mm already have the 0m606 turbo fitted but need exhaust system and intercooler piping and a front mount cooler supplied and fitted I’m ready to drop off anytime

[@tlatif373]

Forgot to mention it’s a 0m605

[@mrAudisubaru]

Better to do a remap then trick the ecu with a map sensor

[@DieselPumpUK]

Thanks for your comment however the issue with what you have suggested is the stock boost sensor cannot handle the higher boost pressure we are trying to achieve so the sensor must be changed.

[@mrAudisubaru]

@@DieselPumpUK Yeah best to do both at the same time for best performance.

[@seanmcalum9238]

Luke, You don't replace/reinstall the rubber piece behind the injector clips?

[@DieselPumpUK]

They were not removed, never fit the clips without the rubber sections behind.

[@seanmcalum9238]

@@DieselPumpUK Thank you sir, that's what I thought. Just couldn't see them in the video.

[@davidtacoronte23]

Hello, I have a fault with that pump, I don't know if it is the cable or the solenoid in the video, has something similar happened to you? thank you

[@Sebastian-Pereiro.]

неплохой результат, будет ли он пользоваться популярностью???

[@1979diko]

Сколько они лошадей у крутящего в итоге получили, не понял

[@Sebastian-Pereiro.]

@@1979diko хз, по расшифровке текста он снял при цикловой подаче 120 кубиков 400 лошадей, про крутящий момент я не понял...

[@1979diko]

@@Sebastian-Pereiro. это, как вижу, на стандартной турбине

[@loganl3478]

So correct me if I’m wrong but when you were removing the bolt for the fuel pump gear was that reverse thread? I’ve watched the clip a few times now and I’m still a bit confused. Thanks

[@MrEmbedded]

What happens when the timing marks are gone from the crank pulley?

[@sultankuto8724]

Hello there good sir,love your om606 project ,so how much would it cost for a crate engine with this pump installed plus mounts based in the project car and possibly an engine gear box adapter

[@DieselPumpUK]

Hi, for a crate engine build you would not want this type of pump, you would be better off with a mechanical version.

[@sultankuto8724]

Thank you for your reply ,okay ,cost wise how much would it be?

[@Jessersadler]

what did you do to get rid of the check engine light caused by the EGR being removed?

[@martinandersson5278]

That old car doesn’t have any lamda sensor with an proper EGR valve with position sensor in it to regulate the EGR, on those old engines it was just controlled by vacuum to an theoretical value by the ECU

[@torqgarage]

@@martinandersson5278 They still have to delete it from ecu , the MAF sensor can detect if the egr is blocked at idle on these

[@martinandersson5278]

@@torqgarage Nope, there is no lamda sensor in the exhaust so it’s just a theoretical value. Done this on soooo many IVECO trucks even with common rail engines, but not possible after they fitted the lamda sensor to have better control over the EGR

[@Jessersadler]

@@martinandersson5278 I'm having a check engine with the EGR removed. . . so there definitely is one. 99 e300

[@Cheese_1337]

​@@martinandersson5278it is maf sensor which senses if there is egr or not too

[@dorsetwarrior3870]

Any idea what's possible to achieve with 7.7 pump , stockish turbo and 200cell cat ( if that exists ). like the most hp you can get while still being Greta friendly?

[@Jessersadler]

I had a tuner tell me 240hp was what the factory pump could do. I'm guessing that's even more than what factory turbo could do.

[@jasonbirch1182]

@@Jessersadler he told me the factory turbo is good for 250hp pushing it.

[@Princess_n_TheDuke]

Fk greta

[@snorlax5104]

What does EDC stand for? And what is the max hp is this good for?

[@erikkovacs3097]

Electronic Diesel Control

[@nickhill1279]

So over £1000 to only make 45.8 hp is it worth all the hard work and time spending changing a pump ? And some super weird way to keep the timing correct, if I was going to do it then I would change the timing chain as well and make sure everything is correct and tight

[@sneez9461]

dude... the new pump allows for up to 600 hp if you install a bigger turbo which can be bought for cheap

[@mirzaosmanovic5430]

Can you now chip the car with that pump to make it run even better and make it have a rev limiter

[@dirtgarageman]

Does decreasing fuel with 3 bar bust sensor, making mixture lean?

[@erikkovacs3097]

It's a diesel engine. A lean mixture is part throttle.

[@mclaren122]

just one q. how is the gearbox holding up with 300 hp +. I have an w211 320 wit 280 hk. and 640 ish nm. but that is what mercedes say that the gearbox can handle.- it is an 7 speed automatic.

[@johankellerman363]

What revs can you push it to that is still reliable

[@hristoignatov5872]

Hey man what pump do you recomend for OM605 with a turbo from a 300td, straight pipe and software, now it makes 200hp and i was wondering what should be the next step: 6 speed manual, diff from a 300td, bigger fuel pump Thank you for the videos❤

[@jvinsnes]

what kind if fuel efficiency can you get with such a highly tuned om606?

[@batyaSpestehniki]

И объясните пожалуйста где такие плунжера взять на 7.7 мм?

[@СергейКурс-ш1у]

Тебе 6мм не хватает?

[@MSamsung-po2rb]

Hallo, i own a w202 c250. Will this work??

[@JRNelson78]

Can an OM648 go to 700 hp? Or this can be only with 606?

[@DieselPumpUK]

I’m very excited to see the day when a 648 can make 700hp on my dyno.

[@batyaSpestehniki]

Приветствую тебя англичанин. Ты даже с системы воздух не выгнал стартером крутишь так как будто у тебя запасной лежит. Импульсный насос поставь 12 в и не придётся стартер мучить. У меня 124 ТЕ ом 606.962 тди. Замена топливного фильтра и прокачка насосом занимает не более 5 минут.

[@СергейКурс-ш1у]

Я грушу влепил. А если все делать быстро,то и она не понадобится. Если приходится лезть в форсунки -пережимаю мёд.зажимом обратку,иначе если завоздушится,то гемор нереальный,никакой аккум не поможет,только зарядно-пусковое,и то- чуть не пол дня.

[@rightsdontcomewithpermits7073]

Hello all, so I got a 98 e300td. And was lied to me by the previous owner about condition of a car. And when I looked at it twice thr engine was hot and ran ok, with a little misfire but no check engine, so I decided to buy it. After washing an engine so I could do some maintenance on it, it cooled off completely. And after I cranked it it idle very rough and had lots of misfire. And it had good bit of white smoke. Like to much fuel in the exhaust. I went for a drive and it was bad until engine got hot and gave me a check engine light and a code for random misfire. Than it sounded and felt just like when I bought it. On farther inspection I see a lot of air in the fuel lines. So my question is. Would air in fuel make an engine misfire, smoke, loud metal clicking noise (that's goes away with rpm)? Where should I start with tackling this problem?

[@Puzkajuzzi]

Yes most likely because of air in the fuel system. Most likely culprit are the O-rings mentioned in this video

[@pauayelo3024]

I know I want a classic car and I know I want to swap it to a 606 or 605 with one of your pup's , don't know the car yet , just know the engine .

[@Kemals_performance]

Can we put 7.7 elements in edc pump? there are 7.7 elements that i got from you

[@luanberisha998]

I was wondering if people could help me, I have a 1998 G wagon with an om606 engine but I wanted to get more power somewhere 220-250 PH how is this work possible, Should I change the electronic IP with a mechanical IP, what changes should I make in the engine since I am a beginner. Thanks for understanding guys

[@Augustus2K12]

too many hoses and gears.. what about old vw 1.9TD aaz?

[@016abj]

But why EDC 7,7mm with original turbo? 6mm Edc can flud the engine even with v2 turbo of yours and i used 4bar sensor. May be the tune but even im impressed how could it happen. V2 is great turbo no doubt but how with 6mm elements? Original pump, original lift pump.

[@TheGalifrey]

Turbo is next step, this pump is capable of over 600bhp

[@jubiletabustamanteserrano2446]

INTERESANTE

[@alberttatlock5104]

GMC updated please 🙏👍

[@Stainless316L]

Will it pass it's MOT smoke test or is that a stupid question lol. 👍

[@RebelsInc969]

Can ya recommend a pump for a 2.2 sprinter ?

[@keuninkske]

I am running om605turbo with 7.5mm mechanical pump in w124 with stock turbo and stock w124 250d exhaust underneath, i am sure my gains are much bigger than on this edc pump, what can be the reason? Can you make an info video why you think a bigger turbo at 2.2bar wil make more than the stock turbo at same pressure. I am dreaming about your s200 turbo, but i am afraid i will lose the early spool up of my stock turbo. (Have to admit i have problems with engine jerking above 4500rpm now, but not sure if it is from turbo or fuel supply)

[@Canhead56]

So timing set to 11= more clacking and higher rpm HP but 14.5 = less clacking / smooth with lower rpm power range?

[@ralanden]

Give a diesel more fuel, you get more power. Who knew? Could just wind out the max fuel rack stop....

[@DieselPumpUK]

Think you would struggle on an electronic pump but thanks for the wisdom :-)

[@ralanden]

@@DieselPumpUK happy to be enlightened...go on!

[@vladimirivanov9000]

With new pump dyno runs are without turbo boost why?

[@MrMaze.]

Whats up with that cdi in background🤫

[@alexanderdanielsson6049]

what do yall think of om612 ?

[@68cutty]

so that 7.7mm pump is about $1,100 usd

[@austindoud273]

Psch put a p7100 on it

[@РоманМустафин-б4о]

🤘😎👍👍👍

[@hyper8545]

👏

[@jltcasper3]

What are the egts At before and after

[@DieselPumpUK]

Before low and after, higher.

[@mbmann3892]

Any mods. For a OM642

[@TheOffroader7458]

Dinosaur on the dyno lol