Some of these may be obvious to many long term players, and many end-game players may already know them, but this is more geared towards Early-to-Midgame players that are struggling with these dungeons.
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@71ganz4 жыл бұрын
Really like the run playing in the top corner with the monster on scene. Nice job Bagel.
@tripxez84784 жыл бұрын
Yes this is epic
@BellyBacon4 жыл бұрын
It is only a small feature, but it underlines what he says very well. But I guess its even more time consuming to get the footage and implement it. But still a nice QoL improvement.
@Strezlecki4 жыл бұрын
Monsters mentioned in the vid: Fran, shannon, sigmarus, wind cat, vigor, verd, spectra, chilling, elsharion, tetra
bruh for real.. gb12 is the dungeon i failed the most and nb12 became the easiest like wtf.. i guess they want everybody to have a bj5 team..
@dotaultimate66074 жыл бұрын
Loren: 100 accuracy Mid boss:aight imma head out Rng: what's up what's up everybody Mid boss:aight time to stun
@OpaH1Hermann4 жыл бұрын
"Takes 20 minutes for 30 seconds needed"
@dimanarinull91224 жыл бұрын
"The cool thing about Chilling": 1. the name. 2. what bagel said.
@yengthao85944 жыл бұрын
my 100% accuracy loren missed her strip 3x in a row on db12, i was like 'Close app'
@johnboona40484 жыл бұрын
Accuracy is capped at 40% in db12 iirc
@DerMulwurf4 жыл бұрын
@@johnboona4048 at 65 actually, because the boss has 80 res
@angelbenejan61604 жыл бұрын
@@DerMulwurf so 100% doesn’t matter? She’ll still miss that many times?
@DerMulwurf4 жыл бұрын
@@angelbenejan6160 yep. Also 100% acc is kinda wasted regardless of where you use the mon. You see, the way the calculations are made, no matter how much acc you have, the enemy always has at least 15% res (and thus at least a 15% chance of resisting) left over. Because of that, you actually reach maximum efficiency at 85% acc (assuming your enemy has up to 100% res), anything beyond that is wasted.
@angelbenejan61604 жыл бұрын
@@DerMulwurf well that’s good to know. No sense in the #6 accuracy runes then. 😒
@llhandj16544 жыл бұрын
Hey brother. I really enjoy all the content you've been putting out. I would like to talk about something a little more serious though. A lot of negatively is going around because of the new dungeons and how hard they are. I would like to see someone in the community who has a bit of a voice let everyone know it's okay if you can't do b10. B7 or B8 will still give you artifacts and its something that needs to be brought up. Ya you won't beabme to get legendary ones but in all reality how often does a legendary roll the way you want. Its always that great hero rune that pushes us forward. So a video on doing some b7 or b8 Steel Fotress or Punisher's Crypt to let the early game players know would really help those who need. I've been b8 farming for a couple days now and have got a lot of useful artifacts already. Thanks and sorry bout the book.
@booyoohooperson4 жыл бұрын
One of the reasons i prefer bagel videos to other sw youtubers is the fact that he takes into consideration the fact that not everyone has super efficiently runed monsters. Bagel is the reason i even managed to clear gb10 for the first time xD now the b12 dungeons are out and i struggled a bit, but with these recommendations i can really get a handle on the new stuff. Thanks bagel, you are truly a gift to the sw community
@IamCoalfoot4 жыл бұрын
With Naomi, when I _really_ realized what her passive meant, I rebuilt her: 0% crit in subs, 180% CrDmg, lost a little attack, but now she hits some 3 times harder than before. >:3
@norbertomangunay2454 жыл бұрын
she has good stats. Pair her with kro it will be much reliable.
@norbertomangunay2454 жыл бұрын
@@zendefta if shannon is the only one not 2A then it is good but if Naomi and Kro is not 2A then it is bad. They will not do good damage. I think change shannon to AOE damage for the trash wave. Either SIgamarus or Lushen to be much better, because you might wipe in the trash wave.
@norbertomangunay2454 жыл бұрын
@@zendefta i tried your team before but I liked having an aoe damage dealer then having a shannon. My issue about having shannon then sigamarus or lushen is that sometimes the team do not target the crystals. they target the golem so when the crystals take a turn i easily wipe. does that happen to you?
@norbertomangunay2454 жыл бұрын
@@zendefta I think it is much better to use siggamarus and her lead skill to get much better results.
@xReedzZx4 жыл бұрын
I loved Naomi even before that, runed her with +1700atk and 258% crit dmg
@MarioRamirez-xx9ji4 жыл бұрын
He spent too much time talking about why Loren is in the list
@aburakuma46004 жыл бұрын
IKR?!
@Blondeape4 жыл бұрын
HA
@byon34214 жыл бұрын
HAHAHHAHA
@user-vi6xk1gi1c4 жыл бұрын
I don't agree with you cuz Spectra is half of the video 🙂💔
@aburakuma46004 жыл бұрын
@@user-vi6xk1gi1c ladies and gentlemen we got him
@thenerdykilt64314 жыл бұрын
Lol I feel like bagel has had a passion inspired in him again.
@OnePiecedout19924 жыл бұрын
Love the second split screen idea in this video Jew - Love your videos dude, keep it coming.
@ej_8994 жыл бұрын
thx this was so needed i’m hyped up to watch keep up the great work
@petermiller24384 жыл бұрын
Great vid Jewbag! I haven’t played in a while and the new updates brought me back to the game. Getting stomped in these new 12’s and your breakdown cleared a lot of it up
@calvinshere4 жыл бұрын
great list bagel, surprised you didnt include belladeon or megan though!
@ivanlawrenceco6564 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the suggestions, I've been playing for 3 months and since the new update it's been really hard for me to clear dungeons. Looking forward for more vids.
@thelos39994 жыл бұрын
One thing you should learn now. Is make your units survive hits. I always fail when I go for "speed teams" instead of just trying to keep my guys alive. That's with every content in the game not just Cairo's
@devilpollachi4 жыл бұрын
I was using vero instead of Sig but after replacing vero with sig, runs got bit faster.. thanks bagel!! You rock 😄
@linkmax53744 жыл бұрын
9:25 attack power block is the best debuff in the game
@memenazi70784 жыл бұрын
Link Max ikr
@Kryogenesw4 жыл бұрын
I was talking to some people about my DB12 team and it's Chilling, Water Homon, Spectra, Loren, and Fran. They were telling me it's too inconsistent and chilling won't strip enough. I'm glad you're running a very similar team JewBagel! Helps me feel validated that I was right xD
@nerovfrost9104 жыл бұрын
If nothing else works, I add a couple raoqs in my team and that generally works..
@johnboona40484 жыл бұрын
Laughs in 6 attacks per turns
@lovestruck37734 жыл бұрын
Grab your pitchforks, we're gonna raid bagel's infinite mana supply!!! >:)
@Zed-Krule4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your videos. Been playing off and on for about 2 years. Just started to somewhat understand the game. But your videos basically told me I spent about 2 years fucking up hahaha..
@TheRiddle874 жыл бұрын
It's interesting how people struggle with these dungeons. For Giants B12 i took my B10 team, put a fran in for some heals and just kept running it. Seen it fail 1 time. Lushen (Lead), Fran, Loren, Kro, Naomi. Used to do 30 sec runs in B10, now 1:20 runs in B12... with occasionally only 1-2 monsters surviving, but it still works. For Necro B12 i did the same, B10 team + Fran... Shaina (lead), Thalia 2x, Sabrina, Fran, works like a charm. DB12 is a nightmare for me, haven't figured that one out.
@Lilfury4 жыл бұрын
Im using Sig(leader) fran loren shannon kro Very consistent around 1:50 to 2:30 its slow but i do stuff while i farm so its nice to be consistent
@BanditDos4 жыл бұрын
how much min hp for beginner?
@BanditDos4 жыл бұрын
without glory building
@yehyeh65754 жыл бұрын
This definitely helps me Bagel, thanks for the explanation!
@aubreylisti97984 жыл бұрын
If I'm using Elsharion is usually in conjunction with Veromos. 1 for stripping, 1 for cleansing and stuns, and both can add DOT's on their main attack, which is helpful with massive amounts of HP. But that's only if you can get them to land and usually requires fully Skilling them up. Loren I primarily use for her attack bar depletion and stuns on mobs. But that's also just because I have them, and I had never considered some of these units. I'm definitely going to try getting them now.
@Gauzeris4 жыл бұрын
We just need Hell hounds 2A... and we will be at 2016 2.0
@Nortarachanges4 жыл бұрын
Let me use Tarq in this year of our Lord 2020 ^_^
@RemagEnagemato4 жыл бұрын
Tarq 2a TEAM UP WITH EVERYONE
@Computrix10004 жыл бұрын
We need salamanders 2a
@amzrelax81244 жыл бұрын
bring back fynn for first gb10 clear. and ramagos solo gb10
@ivansavovski30274 жыл бұрын
Another one great video from Begal !!! TY MASTER !!
@jasonmatthews69094 жыл бұрын
The wind inugami is also a good monster to take in to giants. He’s tanky, has a strip, and can do big damage.
@nightmareaka64244 жыл бұрын
I have a semi speed team between 1:05-1:20 with 97-99% win rate. What do i farm now? Gb10 till i can farm DB10 for vio runes and then back to GB12 to farm more effiicient or from Gb10 straight to Gb12 with a 4 minute safe Team?
@chongokhan4 жыл бұрын
suprisingly also to me the easiest transition was from necro10 to necro12, rather than any other dungeon, i still had same team as before
@norbertomangunay2454 жыл бұрын
which one is more reliable the verdehile comp or spectra comp? I am having problems with verdehile comp. I think my monsters dont have enough damage or hp.
@reaperandyel4 жыл бұрын
GB12 Crystal is the new boss now. Bagel, just a fun suggestion but please try below: - 2A Ramagos solo GB12 - Use Crawler in PC10
@byon34214 жыл бұрын
I can only do gb11, db10(85% reliable), and nb10. And I think I need to focus on clearing toah 100 first, and make other team for beast dungeon first so I can farm my appraisal stone. is it effective? or is it better to focus on gb12 db12 and nb12 first?
@Linkforlife1994 жыл бұрын
How good would the water string master be in DB12? She can block the immunity without actually putting on block beneficial effects so the right tower cannot cleanse it.
@TheVanillaViking4 жыл бұрын
i agree bagel. iv been using verd bella a2 spectra loren and sig and its a 95% win rate. i love spectra so much even before the a2 but hes amazing for everything in game
@olegdoroshenko48364 жыл бұрын
95% is not goo enough. I have Verd Vero Sig Chilling and 2A Bella and also ~95%
@TheVanillaViking4 жыл бұрын
@@olegdoroshenko4836 thats slow af. mine is a 1:30 run
@johneconomy48843 жыл бұрын
Could someone please clarify the a "Cleave' unit. Am I correct in assuming this will be a single target nuker?
@Swervee94 жыл бұрын
Does swapping in Megan for Shannon a good move? I feel like her strip and benefits block on s2 is a good trade-off for one less att/def boost. What do you guys think?
@zerovermilion87154 жыл бұрын
After watching this video, MY LIST DID NOT CHANGE. I expected 100% of all these units here...
@Norielanar4 жыл бұрын
Do you know what works for me even tho it's kinda slow and it fails from time to time but I got around 95%+ clear rate with it fran,loren,shanon,veramos and attack homunculus (attack) on water down roll entirely
@Lp0tr334 жыл бұрын
I was running Perna, Eludia, Sig, Teshar, Loren GB10 1minute team.
@tiagosueda66654 жыл бұрын
RIP no jaara
@paulgoogol26524 жыл бұрын
@@tiagosueda6665 gz no jaara
@filetina4 жыл бұрын
Bagel what do you think about wind dryed for gb12, i use it and its good for people who cant speed run gb12.Alot of dots on boss and it put dots really fast.
@skylerroy62564 жыл бұрын
I use Olivia instead of Shannon, is that a good sub or should I stick to Shannon ?
@55HotPotato4 жыл бұрын
Anyone know what the new accuracy cap is now for gb12? (was 45%) Im assuming the mid-boss has like 120% resist
@John.4 жыл бұрын
the gb 10 mid boss already had 160% lol
@okandagkiran71084 жыл бұрын
You think tyron instead of spectra could work for db12 too? He makes the waves a joke and can also reset the towers? I have him on vio with max skills
@nesnej.4 жыл бұрын
Aegir is very underrated on these new B12s Edit: if you pair him with Loren, they quad strip
@johneconomy48843 жыл бұрын
Love all the videos for info on teams and monsters. What tools or sites provide information on boss stats, speed, resistance etc.. to provide minimum guidelines for team monsters?
@ujust3264 жыл бұрын
My very first nat 5 Elad is putting in the work again in GB12.
@Scooterpie-oc5cd4 жыл бұрын
I found that adding more acuracy was the key to make my b12 dungeons work
@fenrir79694 жыл бұрын
Yeah, no. I'm done grinding this game. Nice update and all but I'm quitting, don't have even remotely enough time to farm and the fun factor has finally hit 0. Can anyone tell me what's the best way to sell an account? Or at least point me in the right direction?
@indrasetiono54184 жыл бұрын
What is the good combination team for db12 with chilling?
@anderszimmerman24284 жыл бұрын
Pro tips for the people trying to do db12 with chilling: 1) If you can get your units to 200 speed, don't use verdehile lead, use chilling lead so you can focus less on accuracy and more on making mons tankier. 2) dont skill up your chilling. he prioritizes his s2, and your chances of wiping go up exponentially if he uses it. Mitigate that risk by keeping the cooldown at 4 turns
@cyno98434 жыл бұрын
For a reliable gb12 I use Sigmarus (L) Fran Loren Kro Naomi. 95% winrate and 2 min run
@doghound.4 жыл бұрын
I started playing the game again (twice) and I noticed you’re not on the user interview. Why’s that?
@christopherfiore9603 жыл бұрын
Clearing Db12 " I'm in looove with my stripper"
@hellothere56604 жыл бұрын
Abigail for db12. Her S3 is perfect for controlling the immunity tower or stripping the immunity and the rest of her kit is useful too.
@user-tc5lo8jy6x4 жыл бұрын
elsharion gives the immunity to the whole team aka your team can survive .What about the water serpent for db12?
@marktaylor30554 жыл бұрын
what if you could auto farm while you play RTA. do you think more people would play RTA
@emberlyncrow37044 жыл бұрын
Anyone have any teams for dragons b12 with chilling? My 100% accuracy Loren does not want to strip the dragon, like ever.
@yassineboudidah71174 жыл бұрын
Would be good if you actually posted like a list of 5 F2P Teams which can be built toward a reliable GB12 that would've been awesome. Great work tho
@MathieuH964 жыл бұрын
Eager to see the best units for B12 overall. nat 5, nat 4 etc..
@acedrewhustle5254 жыл бұрын
posting new times in GB12 with lushen lead kro loren fran subbed shannon for wind BK great vid
@a_c354 жыл бұрын
I have resist issues with 100% accuracy on db12. I dont know if they took the resistance over 100% or if the base 15% chance got bumped up for b12
@Computrix10004 жыл бұрын
Accuracy is a lie
@Carlmdb4 жыл бұрын
same only reason my teams ever ends up losing is because the fights end up dragging out too long because of "resisted" BS multiple times in a row.
@jonsena6yearsagoand9494 жыл бұрын
My DB12 Me: Okay, gave Belladeon 100% accuracy this time, and Loren a decent 82%. Shouldn't be much of a problem. Dunno if 2ARaoq, Kro, and a Verde would do it but, okay. *Boss stage* *Team takes the first and second strike* Immunity crystal: *"WHAT'S UP- WHAT'S UP, EVERYBODY!?"* Belladeon: *Seize* LDragon: *r e s i s t a n c e* Me: Okay, if it resists Loren's strip. This run is as good as dead and the boss will give me a one-sided ass whooping. Loren: *silver-plated bullet* LDragon: *RESISTANCE!!!* LDragon: *b r e a t h e s* LDragon: *Ex Ha Le S :DDD* *Everyone dies except Bella and Fran* Me: I think I'll just stick with B10 and B11 for now...
@unseentyrant99084 жыл бұрын
I would love to see something like this for your L/D Only account!
@dominikhuber22784 жыл бұрын
Is Tarq still a thing in Giants B10-B12?
@DeepbloodFang4 жыл бұрын
2A Spectra is awesome, I use him in Guild Battles and ToA too.
@donfatalo4 жыл бұрын
What about Mantura instead of Spectra? Didnt got his 2A
@rodneypearson11294 жыл бұрын
My spectra needs a rerune, he still has his runes from 4 years ago
@heilonghuangdi33484 жыл бұрын
For db12 i use verd, vero, bella, sig and megan. I strip immunity consistently with megan and bella. Gb12? I use sig, bella, vero, shannon and bernard. Shannon is second awakened of course. With the fundamentals these dungeons are easy. Just need to stick to what works.
@Sniffyy4 жыл бұрын
brought chilling into db10. he procced 3 times and couldn't strip the boss. I cried..
@xHe11houndx4 жыл бұрын
Quick question, who is the most useful in the new dungeons/b12s (need to know who to 6* next): Fran (back from break so havent even got her yet), Kro, Dark werewolf, vampire lord.
@luisefarfan4 жыл бұрын
Fran!
@luisefarfan4 жыл бұрын
You will be using her everywhere!
@xHe11houndx4 жыл бұрын
@@luisefarfan Will do, thanks!
@aerin62594 жыл бұрын
Is Akhamamir worth building for gb12?
@drknativegames3 жыл бұрын
I always wonder are your towers maxed at when doing these?
@drorgu1024 жыл бұрын
I just come to the game again after a while. I dont understand if i need this new artifacts runes for B12 and which teams I need to do for getting this new artifacts?
@maximaus21963 жыл бұрын
Well ist better than no artifacts
@travism21854 жыл бұрын
I haven't noticed a big increase with lyns dmg from b10 to gb12 which caused some issues
@jacoblow69574 жыл бұрын
My B12 giant is this Vero (leader), Fran, Shannon 2A, Kro 2A, Loren , itg is quite slow but it can clear , time within 3 mins, mid bos set left and right and mid bos, then last giant bos set mid only, if kro or loren die, don't end it, they will clear at last, only time reach 4 to 5 mins, at least it clear, all rune not very good still. some +12 some +15, and stats not add many yet, hope this can help, tq
@lexjordan99104 жыл бұрын
Bagel, what if you need to Strip and Chilling does skill 2? Reminder: the dungeon mons are faster. I tested both Elsharion and Chilling. Elsharion is better in slot imo. Spectra is a really good safety net. (I hope com2us buff atb push to 50% or 60%) And trifecta needs no introductions right?: Loren Verde Fran, really good in PVP and PVE
@NobleLaika4 жыл бұрын
spectra can get 75% with skill ups
@lexjordan99104 жыл бұрын
@@NobleLaika are you sure about that? Can you correct yourself rn?
@NobleLaika4 жыл бұрын
@@lexjordan9910 14:24 sometimes, you need to actually pay attention to the video
@lexjordan99104 жыл бұрын
@@NobleLaika Spectra is a really good safety net. (I hope com2us buff atb push to 50% or 60%) You need to pay attention to what you are reacting to. *Harold II Jamiro 2 hours ago spectra can get 75% with skill ups* You didn't pay attention to what you are reacting to, not in the the video, and not in the spectra skill.
@eddiot034 жыл бұрын
there should be a drinking game for every time bagel says b10 instead of b12
@Faradeth11114 жыл бұрын
ive been using spectra for db and gb12 on spd crdmg hp vio blade and shes and absolute beast u can also make a toah auto team using her mine which can solo up to toah 98 on ahtaros and 93 or lili except jultan stages is Mav Baretta dark taoist spectra basalt only mav and spectra are 6* and everyone except spectra on shit runes and it just works
@djaysyn7774 жыл бұрын
Bagel is back to the future in this episode lol love it
@Raamen1234 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised how you mentioned Sigmarus but not Tyron, ofc he doesnt do more damage than Sigmarus but much much more reliable. plus speed lead. most F2p has Tyron too because of the free nat4 events that has happened, he is famous to help clear the ToA
@eniix94024 жыл бұрын
Bagel when comes a new episode of LD only =D love u kind greeting from Germany 🇩🇪
@jesusalive96734 жыл бұрын
Please give us more glory points because ive been trying to max these towers for years and only half done!!
@B3llaLim Жыл бұрын
I got stuck on lvl 5 monsters, dunno how to level to 6 stars 😢
@MaelZack4 жыл бұрын
Lapis + spectra + loren has very high atb control safety option
@inourcingdisk21044 жыл бұрын
I personally don't like chilling because of his second skill, like if I'm not fast enough, there is such a high chance that he just use skill two and not strip anything
@lumialight83054 жыл бұрын
I would like to know the time requirements for each unit. As I'm using lushen (9,4k cards, 14k hp), kro (2,3k att, 13k hp) , fran (30k hp) , loren (28k hp) and shannon (tanky enough, trust). And i wipe at the boss 50% of the time
@paulwittmann93174 жыл бұрын
Had the same issue with my team (Lushen/kro 18k hp and about same dmg). Now i changed Lushen for Sigmarus and it works. Takes his time (1:45-2:30) but it's pretty reliable - 95% - and Fran Loren are not as Tanky as yours (atk slot 6). Maybe give it a try =)
@lumialight83054 жыл бұрын
@@paulwittmann9317 i will thanks.
@TailsDollPrower4 жыл бұрын
Elad, Xioa Ling, Anavel, Shannon, Bernard.. Same Runes along side that That's my team for GB12 same runes. I don't care bout speed Time, But It works for me.
@OrdinaryViewer8083 жыл бұрын
I think you still like at least need +110 spd on every unit when you use the sig lead in db12....
@simonteo70484 жыл бұрын
What about 2A wind griffon and dark ifrit?
@samtani15524 жыл бұрын
is it worth using devilmon on spectra?
@stevenwebb15794 жыл бұрын
No
@rendezvousonmemorylane4 жыл бұрын
TY bagel
@CarmenMunteanu4 жыл бұрын
sooo, what u are sayin' is that u can not twins/lushen everything anymore ? :(( =)))))))
@NobleLaika4 жыл бұрын
you probably can after farming for and grinding for artifacts
@aztecadestructor19994 жыл бұрын
So now what's the minimum required speed for gb12?
@bellebr4 жыл бұрын
170 for all the B12s
@johnfelmartalisaysay4 жыл бұрын
Bagel may i know the spd and accu needed in all b12??? Your estimate??? Some says 175 spd accu 70... Hope you notice this😊👍
@Sorad904 жыл бұрын
my kro got 151 speed and outspeed the wave on giant and dragon
@John.4 жыл бұрын
170 minimum total spd
@Sorad904 жыл бұрын
my kro still outspeed them with 151 speed
@John.4 жыл бұрын
@@Sorad90 did you also factored in the speed totem?
@Sorad904 жыл бұрын
@@John. wep 8% only
@WykydWaze3 жыл бұрын
I been using wind cats for food so I guess I'll build one now.
@memphisacosta21454 жыл бұрын
Did he say whether or not these units were using artifacts?
@robertalmanza92024 жыл бұрын
Can you try your one farmable team that beat all b10s against b12s
@trarusnorton70994 жыл бұрын
Megan also works for DB12 still havent had to 6* my megan works fine