19:07 >talks about the lumatone >mentions microtonality once >doesn't even play any microtonal scales >refuses to elaborate
@cubicinfinity23 ай бұрын
>knows his traditional audience
@not_estains3 ай бұрын
@@cubicinfinity2 cmon what's wrong with showing a normal person 15edo? they'll only explode
@k3so3 ай бұрын
I agree, if you buy a lumatone it is to play microtones. Why would you play a lumatone like a conventional piano, considering that you can buy an acoustic piano for the same price.
@lumatone3 ай бұрын
@@k3so About half of the folks who buy a Lumatone are not interested in microtonality at all. It's a game-changer for standard tuning artists too, for all the excellent reasons that Sanjay pointed out. 👍
@Persun_McPersonson3 ай бұрын
@@k3so Isomorphism.
@carbonvibes4 ай бұрын
Always wanted a Lumatone, can’t justify the price though. Some day maybe
@lumatone4 ай бұрын
We're here when you're ready. 👍
@thecreepysilence42904 ай бұрын
The cool thing about the lumatone is, you can play microtonal stuff with it
@JellyMonster14 ай бұрын
Yes, me too. I think they should consider a lite version with a much smaller price tag. I use a QWERTY computer keyboard with Scale Workshop by Sevish which is great for experimenting with unusual tunings.
@JellyMonster14 ай бұрын
@@lumatone Please consider a 'lite' version with less keys. I think I will design one myself.
@chrisward0004 ай бұрын
Wow, I had little bet with myself about how much it cost before I clicked the link. I was way off!
@jimpemberton3 ай бұрын
The Lumatone is basically a configurable bayan keyboard. It's far more efficient to play than a standard keyboard and actually makes transposition on the fly much easier. I've always wanted to learn how to play a bayan.
@lumatone3 ай бұрын
Exactly! Hope you get a chance to try one someday.
@DavidBostock-ti2fv3 ай бұрын
Bayan is a particular configuration of button accordion. SEARCH and view on Roland page. roland v-accordion fr-1xb It is a synthesizer in a button accordion format. I'm sure the Roland V (virtual) button accordion has a setting for Bayan configuration. I recall there is one woman on KZbin with a lesson series for playing Bayan. Left hand Stradella System varies but is common to accordions including Bayan.
@xrealluzion6384 ай бұрын
I want a Lumatone too for microtonal stuff! But 4K€+ makes it quite unreasonable given my current musical proficiency :D
@BrunodeSouzaLino4 ай бұрын
Get a Linnstrument. The full version of it costs 1400 bucks. It's also way more flexible than the Lumatone.
@xrealluzion6384 ай бұрын
@@BrunodeSouzaLino nice, I'll have a look, thanks!
@joshuascholar32203 ай бұрын
I'm looking at getting Akai Fires. They have 16x4 somewhat velocity sensing pads for $150 each. FL studio is set up to use them to lay out beats rather than a microtonal controllers, but it does support up to 4 of them in a grid. I figure I could script them in Reaper writing the software myself (I used to be a programmer). I'm only planning on buying 2 of them, but if you got 4 that would be 256 pads, not far off from the Lumatone's 280.
@brunobruno74443 ай бұрын
Get an Intuitive Instruments Exquis! It's hexagonal, MPE and it's only 299$. It wons the Best Hardware of the Year Pize at Midi Inovation Awards 2023, I'm very surprised it's not in the video...
@vasil30893 ай бұрын
I would sooner buy a Mood One but then again, those things are expensive af too.
@Keith_Untitled3 ай бұрын
Why did I think this was the other type of keyboard lol 😭
@djharris903 ай бұрын
Me too..😢🤣
@98f5Ай бұрын
Same. I was like ooooo i need a keyboard with every letter in every language
@RoversiterRBLX8 күн бұрын
BRO FR💀
@XY01Mu4 ай бұрын
Dolomuse (yt channel that specialises in exploring microtonal music) uses the Lumatone in a lot of her pieces and Ive always loved how the look of the instrument matches the mystique of microtonal music. Now I have to fight the urges to invest in one all over again lol😅
@nisheshshukla14 ай бұрын
Appreciate the silent nod to one of my favourite musical piece "tujhe dekha to ye jaana sanam" 👍🏼
@SanjayC4 ай бұрын
❤️🇮🇳🎹 ah you noticed!
@Only1Dharti4 ай бұрын
💜🎶 Yessss mine too!!!
@shardakale35083 ай бұрын
i was also going to comment but i saw your comment and i am going to reply yes i also notice
@AceeSoul4 ай бұрын
Awesome. Lumatone is very cool, although pricey. Osmose I'll ha e to try it is sooo cool. I may just have to buy the little card piano lol
@SanjayC3 ай бұрын
That midicard thing is crazy, right? Thanks for the Super Thanks, AceeSoul!
@daviddeck10744 ай бұрын
The expressiveness of the osmose combined with the internal Hakan Audio sounds gives me a new level of performance not available on my other synths. It has become my soloing instrument of choice.
@d-zone4 ай бұрын
no Linnstrument? From the GODFATHER of controller design Roger Linn (he invented the MPC).......and it's 1/4 the cost of the Lumatone! I'm guessing he wouldn't send one free of charge 🤣
@SanjayC4 ай бұрын
LOL...yup! Actually I considered it, but I couldn't get one in time. I think there needs to be a part 2 to this video with the other suggestions here.
@Whistler-0073 ай бұрын
@@SanjayC Definitely
@sedij23583 ай бұрын
@@SanjayCyou should also take a look at the Intuitive Instruments Exquis. It seems interesting
@esSKay25Ай бұрын
I would recommend looking at things like Artiphon’s gear and maybe some percussion triggers too, as they can also be used in a melodic context.
@organfairy3 ай бұрын
The reasons given for playing a Lumatone sounds exactly like the ones button accordion players usually give for playing a button accordion instead of a piano accordion. Historically there was something called a 'Janko piano' that was build on a similar idea.
@micah_noel3 ай бұрын
It looks like the midi card is designed to allow users to build their own custom interface from it. I find this more interesting than the actual novelty of having a tiny keyboard. Discretely placing buttons onto an acoustic instrument to trigger samples is something I’ve been dreaming of for a long while.
@RPhaF4 ай бұрын
Missing Exquis by Intuitive Instruments, probably deserves a 9 or 10 as well
@towerrunner46754 ай бұрын
The Lumi is the smartest approach. Good for learning, and expandable. Unfortunately not cheap.
@damelos40394 ай бұрын
Have the LUMI and it's great. Love the fact that it is modular. Osmos is the most interesting looking that I've seen previously. But that LAST one? Wow. Just the fun factor alone!
@lumatone4 ай бұрын
💪💥🤯
@MisguidedAndMaladjusted4 ай бұрын
Ok, the Lumatone blew my mind. So awesome! But anything with keys Sanjay makes sound amazing.
@lumatone4 ай бұрын
Indeed, it was so cool to see how quick Sanjay picked it up. It has been really gratifying to watch folks like him bond with it.
@juancarloschristensen4 ай бұрын
The Intuitive Instruments Exquis is like a small (afordable) brother of the Lumatone. As for small and powerful, I've also really enjoyed the Woovebox.
@Mishupafmaf2 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for dropping this bit of info! Had no idea about the Exquis. It looks really cool and definitely within my ballpark of affordability!
@Sanber4 ай бұрын
Can you imagine a hybrid, Luma-osmose 👌
@samuraiowlmusic4 ай бұрын
i love how literally everything in this video "takes things to a whole new level"
@TheBanancer2 ай бұрын
it feels like ai because ai phrases go like "dive in, level up, elevate," etc
@samuraiowlmusic2 ай бұрын
@@TheBanancer good point. much of the intro feels very ai as well
@coromknight31712 ай бұрын
The Lumatone is something that Bjork or Imogen Heap would buy and write 50 songs on it.
@leetronix4 ай бұрын
You never bothered to showcase - The Linstrument by Roger Linn. Now that is just such an incredible keyboard with all the keyboard - M/E effects and programmable abilities etc. And the cost is insanely cheap around 1400 than to pay 3500 for the Lunatone!?! Roger is already light years ahead before any of these came about.
@annebokma46373 ай бұрын
That is a very nice piece of Kit indeed. Should be included.
@TheRykerInitiative3 ай бұрын
I have a Linnstrument, the large model, and it's one of my most prized possessions. It's incredibly capable. And absolutely gorgeous to look at. It's the most reliable controller I've ever owned, as well. Something about its impressive reliability and its build quality really makes it feel like it's in a whole other league beyond MIDI controllers. And the thing itself just feels like a true instrument, if you know what I mean. I don't know, it's hard to explain. I just really love the thing, and I've got so much gear, but it's the only thing I actually feel has a soul outside my guitars. Like if there was a fire, the Linnstrument is the very first thing that I would grab. Though it's certainly not the most expensive thing by any means. I guess that's the best way I can put it. It doesn't hurt that the thing comes with a signed letter from Roger Linn himself!
@leetronix3 ай бұрын
@@TheRykerInitiative I know exactly what you mean and concor 💯 👍
@leetronix3 ай бұрын
@@annebokma4637 Exactly it does not make sense. If he could not of obtained one at least he should of mentioned it? Although I suspect if he reached out to Roger, I am pretty sure he would of loaned him one!
@annebokma46373 ай бұрын
@@leetronix a lot of retailers have a 30 day money back deal. Sadly Roger's contributions to music still don't get the praise they deserve
@CreativeSauce4 ай бұрын
Loving the Lumi :)
@SanjayC4 ай бұрын
Hey its Creative Sauce!! Thanks for coming by to watch my vid, buddy!
Two things that are still on my wishlist are a harpejii and a seaboard. A harpejii is a bit like a guitar and a piano had a baby. The ultimate tapping instrument. And the seaboard supports bends and vibrato, something not possible with regular keys. And those variations are done per key.
@SrishanthIyer4 ай бұрын
tujhe dekha to ye janasanam!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you made my day bruh!!!! You finally you proved that you are an Inidian!!!!!!!!
@SanjayC4 ай бұрын
LOL 😂 Glad I made your day 🇮🇳
@BrassThunder3 ай бұрын
As a Information Technicology worker and a life long Musician. As a multi instrumentalist, my primary instrument is Trumpet (Lead Trumpeter), I got into midi earlly on the PC going way back with Creative Labs AWE Sound Cards. My first Midi Keyboard which I still have is a Yamaha PSR 500. Though all of these featured spark my interest, I'd have to go with the Lumatone but honestly I am almost afraid to find out its cost....the operative term is almost.....This is my first time coming across your videos. Thanks for a great review
@Stueffell3 ай бұрын
Instant sub. Love your charisma, the editing, the cameras, everything ❤
@SanjayC3 ай бұрын
I really appreciate that. Thank you so much.
@Mary-xd4ltАй бұрын
Lumitone !! ❤TY for sharing 😁
@USAJ313 ай бұрын
I want the LUMATONE! Wow...cool.
@nanotechnicianhqАй бұрын
Superman asked for his keyboard back.
@shreepadgandhi67394 ай бұрын
Sanjubaba...that's incredible info. Enjoyed the video thoroughly. Currently no plans to buy either of these. But as a wishlist, I would like to own and try all. 😊😊😂😂 Thanks again.
@sanjaycolaco3 ай бұрын
Wow! these are really crazy little music keyboards. I especially liked the last one, Lumatone. It uses a musical concept similar to Tonnetz. Thanks for making this video. Have a Blessed day!😇
@TheDesperateArtist3 ай бұрын
Which piano sound are you using at 17:00?
@EmptyLunch112 ай бұрын
Lumatone
@EmptyLunch112 ай бұрын
Lumatone
@AlbertScoot4 ай бұрын
The sheer gall to charge that much for the Erae products. It's just a low pixel density led board with a touch surface.
@hamishpain86413 ай бұрын
Making a per-finger pressure sensitive and illuminated surface is actually pretty hard! I've tried making a few DIY ones in the past (some for commercial projects), but I could never get the pressure sensitivity to be consistent across the whole area without being expensive and requiring regular calibration. If the Touch 2 was available and a bit more hackable, I would totally have used it. It's also a niche product, so they have to be able to recoup development costs on relatively few sales.
@GizzyDillespee3 ай бұрын
That's what it looks like... but if you can make one that works as well for much less, I'll buy it. If it only looks the same, but doesn't really work like the Erae does, then no thanks.
@meliodascsjo_gaming26373 ай бұрын
@@hamishpain8641 you sir, know what you are talking about. I own the Lumi, Rise 2, and a Seaboard Block and had A Joue Play for a while. I can confidentely say, that the Rise 2 is the only one of all of them that really nails the MPE pressure. Second are the Block and Lumi. And the Joue so far far far behind you can't even call it functional for MPE Aftertouch. Really wish i could try out the haken, osmose and linnstrument for a direct comparison.
@marieladomingo60683 ай бұрын
OHMIGOD! That Lumatone! 😍
@Sir_Quackers20123 ай бұрын
0:03 Thanks, I grew it myself
@amirat8162Ай бұрын
So fun! Thanks 😊
@draakisbackАй бұрын
The lumatone has been an instrument that I've absolutely wanted for years now. The fact that you can do microtonal work on it so easily is just incredibly appealing to me. I'm also so much surprised that you didn't show the linnstrument though I suppose it's not really a keyboard per say.
@Yuusou.4 ай бұрын
If you want a smaller version of Lumatone minus some colors and modes they offer, check out Exquis by Intuitive Instruments. It also has a hexagonal arrangement, but the chords follow a specific memorable pattern across the board. It's not perfect, more like an 8/10 but it's a similarly expressive instrument.
@lumatone4 ай бұрын
Important to understand the differences between the two - they both use hexagons, but that's where the similarities end. A Lumatone is not a touch pad. It's 280 fully mechanical keys with real travel. It all comes down to what you need when it comes to expression and performance.
@Yuusou.4 ай бұрын
@@lumatone Ahh thank you. That explains the high price for lumatone.
@ritapatel57273 ай бұрын
Omggggg ! I love these small keys ! Excellent ! ❤
@jedidiahgirio3 ай бұрын
This video was well thought out. Great Job Sanjay C
@Neptoid3 ай бұрын
wish you went more into the microtonal music with the Lumatone
@lumatone3 ай бұрын
Plenty about microtonality on Lumatone on KZbin, but we're really grateful that Sanjay used this video to highlight the fact that about half of Lumatoners got theirs purely for it's abilities to map and perform with the standard 12-tone tuning in new and inspiring ways.
@c0ns1d1ne3 ай бұрын
You missed the Exquis by Intuitive Instruments. It's like the lumatone but doesn't require you to remortgage your house.
@edmasters44544 ай бұрын
Linnstrument is a creative approach, combining the tuning of guitar/bass with a fully MPE control surface. And Roli's Seaboard instruments also are non-tradition in approach and playing technique. Nice that there are more alternatives to choose from all the time. The Lumatone looks great, but the price...
@mr88cet3 ай бұрын
I’d been hoping for a Lumatone since ~1977, so, for me, it’s a dream come true! But it’s even more than the Bosanquet-Wilson keyboard I’d been hoping for, also having exceptionally flexibly-programmable keyboard layouts and fantastic touch sensitivity. Also, mine at least has been very reliable too; I’ve seen equipment from big-name companies with more glitches!
@cubicinfinity23 ай бұрын
The Lumatone is the instrument everyone wants but few will buy.
@iloveplayingbass4 ай бұрын
I bought the Joué years ago. The idea is fantastic, but I was disappointed with the touch feeling because it is not sensitive enough for me. For instance, if I play drums on it, I miss many hits because I don't tap hard enough for the device. The idea of the guitar layout is very good, as you can easily play "real" guitar or bass patterns that feel artificial on a piano layout keyboard. Anyway, because of that sensitivity issue, it is actually sleeping forever in a box and I won't use it anymore. So if you are interested to buy one, try to find somebody who has one that you could try before you buy.
@trentfarmer98622 ай бұрын
Incredible video!
@henrikpetersson346314 күн бұрын
The Osmose has been on my list since the release. Simply because it feels like and is a standalone instrument that is so well thought out and design. Plus it sounds great. The Lumatone would be a ton of fun though!
@ProudIndianDevotee4 ай бұрын
3:57 tujhe dekha toh yeh jana Sanam 👍🏻
@Grimmsha722 ай бұрын
Seeing the Lumatone at first it's like yeah ok, think I'd rather stick with a regular layout. Then you see how that layout is explained, that is really interesting and very cool.
@markkilley26834 ай бұрын
Very useful bits of gear.
@mannkeithc4 ай бұрын
Roli Lumi is my favourite. It is both compact and expandable.
@margaretchristo68594 ай бұрын
Oh, my goodness, that was so cool! Loved that you played, “Tujhe dekha tho ye jaana sangam.” Lumatone was crazy alright. Great video, as always. Love your channel.
@prod_kono22 күн бұрын
HE PLAYED at 3:57 TUJHE DEKHA TO YE JAANA SANAM
@ValkyRiver3 ай бұрын
I've got a Lumatone keyboard as well. I wish you could have elaborated more on microtonal music; I've been working on semiquartal harmony in 19-TET.
@dedalusjmmr4 ай бұрын
The MidiCard looks so cool to take on a travel.
@SanjayC4 ай бұрын
Yeah it’s super cool right?
@JEtienneMusic4 ай бұрын
First of all Sanjay C upload! Wicked yes! Secondly I'm a broke boi but want these all! 😅😭
@SanjayC4 ай бұрын
Hey, buddy. Glad you came by to check out the vid! And yeah...some insane keyboards cost $$$$
@williamross64773 ай бұрын
What really sets the Osmos apart from the rest is that’s it’s just a regular keyboard on the surface. Anyone with any piano experience can instantly start playing with no learning curve whatsoever and then optionally add all kinds of additional expression on top that isn’t available on other keyboards.
@patrikknoerr97774 ай бұрын
One of my favorite MIDI keyboards is less instagrammable-looking than it does a mostly deceiving drumkit impression. I like that you can practically use anything to perform as a midi controller. Waiting for a MIDI out on my Atari 2600 joystick. And then on my washing machine. And then, because I'm not mad enough to spend almost 4K on a lumatone, I'll have mastered the skills to build my own with arcade parts.
@vewilli4 ай бұрын
Very interesting, especially the last two where I‘d like to have the Osmose (preferably with 61 keys or 73/76 keys. Thank you for introducing these things to us. 👏🏻👍🏻🙏🏻
@beninua3 ай бұрын
I imagine the grouping of keys on the lumatone makes it a really fun and intuitive jamming instrument.
@SpideyVids4 ай бұрын
I'll stick with the traditional keyboard layout, thanks. 😁
@MichaelScottGordon4 ай бұрын
Hay Sanjay! Another wonderful video with some really fabulous products. Thanks again for your excellent review. You are always easy to follow. Your videos are professionally produced with excellent quality, featuring the most interesting midi keyboards! Great video! And great to see your wife!! I hope she is feeling better! 🩵
@Lutzifer313373 ай бұрын
knew three of them already, but loved the other ones as well
@BigHairyKev3 ай бұрын
*Very interesting!* ⭐😃👍
@jyotichristo77204 ай бұрын
The Lumastone is crazy awesome!
@thelearningmachine57406 күн бұрын
00:27 The MIDI Card gets 10/10 for me! I want to be able to go to a coffee place and write my music without creating too much attention from people around me.
@LifeInFrame3 ай бұрын
Wow that last one was really neat!
@awanghaldisАй бұрын
3:57 is that some old indian song?
@9Nexum24 күн бұрын
Yeahh, it is 🤩
@9Nexum24 күн бұрын
Hii
@awanghaldis23 күн бұрын
@@9Nexum can you please tell me the name of that song? its bringing back my childhood, we used to watch indian drama with my mom when i was a little kid.
@jeffreyelmore9484 ай бұрын
is that lumatone layed out the same way an accordion is?
@lumatone4 ай бұрын
If you like! You can map it any way you see fit, including using isomorphic modes like Harmonic, Melodic, and Classic. These are modelled after time tested layouts like Wicki-Hayden, Bosanquet, and the Harmonic table. It's an inspiring way to see music and the relationships between notes from a brand new angle. 👍
@averagedudeusa97224 ай бұрын
so cool bro. thanks for showing us.
@onsesejoo2605Ай бұрын
The Easyplay brings accordeon to mind, likewise the Lumatone. Embodme is Close Encounter Of The Third Kind, the film, stuff. :)
@JakobDam3 ай бұрын
I love my LUMI's (I have 2, which fit my desktop perfectly). They look great and inviting, and that per-key pitch bend is insane. The only thing is, I wish they were fullsize keys and not 3/4 width keys (also known as mini keys). As a pianist, I make more errors than I use to, but for more serious play, I of course use other keyboards. So for what it is, the LUMI is pretty cool., and not an expensive addition to a home studio either.
@Only1Dharti4 ай бұрын
😅 DDLJ🥹😭🙌🏽💜💕🎶 And 😂😂😂 not Temu!!!! I loooooove this video! Such cool instruments!!!🎹❤️🔥🎶
@SonicVision3602 ай бұрын
Way good!
@raffyvirata83174 ай бұрын
This is really cool though especially the osmose and the lumatone :D
@jobloggs62674 ай бұрын
I hope you have found that the Lumikeys keyboard can show a number of different colour ranges instead of just the red 'c' and white for everything else!
@FernandoDCDuarte4 ай бұрын
Hi there! Quite an interesting unconventional keyboard list!! Out of these, I have the Limo since day one.... I'm not too found of it.. yes, it's pretty, but the small keys make it uncomfortable to play with and, to truly take advantage, I'd need a second Lumi... But they aren't cheap! The ExpressivE, looks like from a SciFi movie but definitely looks interesting. Oh, the Embodme.... Love it!! Musician DeLaurentis performs with one or few, depending on the song, she's a master of it!!! The Lumatone.... It does have a good advantage, it's easy to play in the dark with 😊 Joking aside, it definitely is an interesting and original device! Thanks for sharing!
@PossumMedicАй бұрын
"Forget what you know about playing piano!" *DONE!* 😂
@JayKughan3 ай бұрын
I think the EasyPlay is awesome. Might get my sister one as a travel piano or just something she could noodle with @ her office desk.
@newmonengineering3 ай бұрын
Pattern playing sounds pretty cool. Setup the pentatonic scale for each key change sequence in a song and can probably learn just about any song without being able to do the same on a piano. The normal chord progressions would be effortless almost. I think that would be super cool to try. If they don't already have software setup like this, they should. You should just put a chord progression in, and let it light up each section seperate. Then you just move along with patterns. Would be so much easier.
@gaspode83 ай бұрын
Whats the difference between Erae Touch and an iPad Pro or another big tablet? Is it more tactile?
@thepianoplayer4163 ай бұрын
Seaboard by Roli is also an interesting keyboard like the Lumi. Plain gray color with no light up keys. Can also do vibrato.
9:03 having this customizable instrument by joue makes me wish for a future items for example a turn table add on Or even a fader bank add-on
@mikescofield4 ай бұрын
Before I look at the price I would, without a doubt, want the lumatone.
@aquaticborealis48774 ай бұрын
The Lumatone looks awesome. I preordered the Embodme Erae II. Looks to be excellent. You might might to check out the Koma Chromaplane. Not a keyboard, but it is really innovative.
@basildraws29 күн бұрын
The thing at 4:00 seems neat but the sound of the physical keypresses is louder than the nite produced. Those keys need to be buffered or dampened or something before the device can be anything but a crappy novelty
@DedF0r3ver3 ай бұрын
what program did u use for the lumi
@discopants683 ай бұрын
9:57 That Erae Touch looks like the Lite Brite I had back in the 70’s!
@HuttyTheKid2 ай бұрын
5:25 made it sound cool then gave it a massive F
@Dracopol3 ай бұрын
The 2nd one has button presses that are too loud; that will mess up the sound from the built-in speaker but be okay for an external speaker or headset.
@synthfreq49934 ай бұрын
Should of had the linnstrument in this. That's the best.
@tMena458883 ай бұрын
That Lumatone is amazing but I can't afford that one but it's definitely amazing and beautiful
@yesno8204Ай бұрын
lumatone Demo - The Five-Tone Motif by John Williams Wild Signals. Movie: Close Encounters of the Third Kind. That keyboard looks insane for someone who never played.