7 Players We Refuse to Draft in Fantasy Football

[@blessembreaks]

just remember folks, these receipts exist forever on the internet. The internet never loses

[@josephducas1823]

I watched them alot last year and I gotta say they were wrong quite a bit. They were super high on miles sanders, dameon pierce, Carolinas offense, etc...

[@RevolutMe]

Yeah normally this video is a good benchmark for players to target.

[@Thought_Criminal_13]

Yup they missed on a good amount last year. They’re good at acting like they know what they are talking about.

[@BakedJake27]

You can only call so much right/correct. The best gamblers are just above .5

[@Thought_Criminal_13]

@@BakedJake27 are you referring to 0.5 tickets of picks. Regardless either you’re right or wrong. That’s it. Either you win or you lose. I only hit about 20-25% of my tickets. Although I only do correlated slips and hit for 10x and 25x tickets so I am still highly profitable. I have been hitting at nearly 70% in the past 10 months. Correlation is a cheat code. I have been preaching it since I have had ridiculous success. NFL was easy money. MLB is a little more difficult but not much. In fact I have been hitting over 75% the past few weeks. The only tickets I have missed I was 3/4 or 5/6. Also you can strategically use these demons against PP. I will take the lead off hitter of an elite offense to get over 0.5 run. Then #2 hitter I will either take over 1.5 HRR or if he has a strong history against the pitcher I will do the 2.5 HRR. Then the #3 hitter I will take over 0.5 RBI. With the 4the pick and to count as the player from the other team you can use a free square, a taco or you can take the over on the opposing teams pitcher. Either hits allowed, Earned Runs, under fantasy score, or under outs. I can’t count how many times I have hit these tickets in the 1st inning. Then on flex Fridays I just combine 2 teams and do the same thing. I had an 83x ticket miss by 0.5 runs. I still hit for 4.5x since I hit 5/6 with 4 demons. I hit for 38x a couple Fridays ago.

[@dbarller]

I get people like getting Wrs early but when Taylor is there in the second or even later idk how you can pass on him when he has the rb1 upside.

[@notsosilentmajority1]

Exactly right. Passing up on JT at that point of the draft makes no sense. You usually need 2 RB's anyway, how many more points is a WR2 going to give you than RB1, especially when you figure on how many points you will probably lose from a lower end Rb later on? The bottom line is that you should draft the players that will give you the most points during the season while filling out your roster. Also, WR's are usually easier to find than a quality RB. If you lose a second round WR, it is still easier to replace that player compared to a RB1 that's taken in the second round. On top of that, WR's are generally more reliant on QB's than RB's are. Drafting WR's first makes the most sense in FPPR leagues but passing up on a RB1 to get a WR2 doesn't make sense.

[@bronson__roi6435]

He's legit my favorite pick in round 2, but hayden made great points. Right now in Best Ball, the drop off between at receiver that round to the next compared to RB's is steeper.

[@InsightfulMindsInquire]

@@Thiiinkdumb response

[@matthewdavis3014]

Yeah man I was watching the highlights while he was talking and just shaking my head. A high end Rb1 in high end WR2 range

[@livelikelarry0017]

I'd say just do not take a RB 1 that either A. Splits workload (Devon Achane or Jahymr Gibbs) or B. Has a rushing QB that will take goal line TDs (Johnathan Taylor, Saquon Barkley). The floors on these guys are just way lower than guys like Kyren Williams, or Joe mixon or Isaiah Pacheco who command the bulk of the workload and will get the guaranteed goal line touches. (I understand the argument of Blake Corum taking goal line carries from Kyren but I dont think thats gonna happen.)

[@wardog211]

Hater episode hell yeah

[@Ryan-by8ui]

Fuckin love being a hater

[@OgAndretti]

@@Ryan-by8uiI like waking up early so I can have extra time to be a hater

[@For_The_Watch]

Just drank 48 oz of haterade

[@Kordishz]

woke up early to hate

[@Archaic_slang]

I dont even sleep. Too much hate. When I get sleepy I just sit on a chair and start hating. Keeps me going. 😠

[@jakcough]

Unpopular opinion = getting the high end fades right is more important than anything else all off season.

[@VinegarAndSaltedFries]

I think that’s accurate for if you are drafting in August but early on in May/June I think it’s of equal or even more important to understand the guys going in the last 5 rounds who are going to see meaningful playing time especially once the preseason gets into full gear. You want to predict the guys late who are going to be moving up several rounds by August/September.

[@bestgreenpest]

Maye --> Polk

[@VinegarAndSaltedFries]

@@bestgreenpest I mean yeah but that example isn’t the best because it a QB or a rookie WR for that team on one of the worst projected offense in the league. But I’m taking RB shots over Maye all day depending on team makeup. But tbh I’m not a believer in Maye and heavily concerned with that organization rushing him into action. That said If I need a 3rd QB he’s very nice stacking potential late. To nice honestly it tempts me when my exposure should be lower end considering the offense.

[@bestgreenpest]

@@VinegarAndSaltedFries Watson ----> Thrash

[@tobyflederstech5305]

Not unpopular, everyone knows that you can’t win your draft in the early rounds but you can lose it

[@lokololo321]

Not wanting to draft Taylor is insane but hey everyone’s allowed to have opinions lol

[@grantleysnipes1]

Hayden told us to draft Dameon Pierce last year... i'm out on his RB advice.

[@gavinfaulkner2234]

You’ve never been wrong before?

[@Sames713]

Yeah he should’ve totally been one of the few if any to predict the Texans RB1 would fall of a cliff his sophomore szn

[@WreckDirector]

You do you boo.

[@PlayboySharti]

not taking devin singeltary is crazy. he is going to be getting 80-85% of the teams snaps. not saying he is going to be great but he will be better than rb 32

[@ItsLud_]

Where are the TDs coming from this offense is gonna suck plus there are better profiles going around him

[@klinkadink1345]

Giants have a new O-line coach, plus singletary's ADP is generous... worth the cost of entry imo

[@adeen470]

85% of snaps is just insane to assume lol

[@Jay-yi3ot]

Giants drafted Tyrone Tracy, who’s been pretty hyped by the team so far. He’s younger way faster, and is an elite receiving RB prospect. I don’t think he’ll get 85% of snaps. Maybe the majority but definitely not that high of a snap share

[@KFBALL247]

Not crazy at all. He’s one of the worst starting running backs in the league behind one of the worst offensive lines in one of the worst offenses. He’s not a workhorse back. He’s good for 10-12 Carries a game and some receptions, just like every other year.

[@jonathanhaven1690]

Dalton Kincaid is a smash play this year.

[@Heathcoatman]

I've probably said in 90% of my drafts 'If Kincaid is still there my next pick I'm drafting him'.....then he's gone. It's a little pricey but hoping to get him more.

[@dogthedogdog]

Did Swift have any rushes from the 1-2 yard line? Which rbs are scoring from the 9 yard line???

[@EvanFromJersey]

question: if the 'average' tackle is basically a hip drop tackle, how will defensive players possibly adapt to the rule change 4:50

[@JerryC-gj3cl]

I've done over 50 drafts so far...zero shares of Chubb

[@landiscarter2818]

Same

[@timocruz510]

Week 1 return isn't ruled out apparently Ik it was the scariest injury but Chubb is legitimately built different. Wouldn't be surprised if he goes for 1000 yards this year

[@theohiooutdoors2444]

You can get Chubb as a RB 4 or RB 5. You don’t need that guy to be amazing early season. If Browns bring him back slowly he could be back to bellcow role by week 10 and ready to smash in the fantasy playoffs!

[@timocruz510]

@@theohiooutdoors2444 Agreed. Chubb is a freak of freaks and apparently he's progressing super well. The fact he could play Week 1 is a great sign. I'm not saying reach for the guy, but to write him off may be risky

[@FedorMachida]

@@timocruz510 no f'ing way, lol He will never get to 1,000 again, imo His injury was absolutely horrific.

[@Boston99107]

my hottest take is I am actively avoiding Puka in round 1

[@CertifiedJoshua]

Same here

[@wuddafucc1388]

Same, i honestly think focusing elsewhere and taking kupp later is the move than taking puka at all

[@kelbyswearington4873]

Starting off Jt is wild, I have him in 21% my heart dropped

[@GuavaBiscottii]

I was big on JT and still have him ranked as my RB4 but a lot has to go right for him to hit. He’s not a pass catcher and has missed 7 + games in back to back seasons. I also believe the colts O line is overrated which he can overcome but a lot has to go his way

[@dbarller]

I’m taking plenty of him

[@KFBALL247]

I have very little faith he will stay healthy. Especially at the end of the season when it really matters in best ball.

[@austinbarrera5184]

L take, underdog is not full PPR so RBs who break off long runs and get TDs are favored. The offense is on an upward trajectory with a great upcoming Shane Steichen. “HeAllLLTttHhh” if you’re predicting health you faded CMC last year and how did that turn out

[@tomdowney37215]

I don't want to spend a 1st round pick on a guy who's gonna get half his TDs vultured by his QB

[@BrianDBacon]

I very much appreciate the concept of this video and I haven’t even watched it yet. Just the title

[@u2bemark]

7:00 on Swift and Hurts goal line stats.. I think TushPush skews those stats quite a bit. I don’t know for certain.. But could easily guess that half Hurts TDs came on TushPush. If Chicago doesn't run that down there.. Or is worse at it.. Swift might benefit.

[@johnpaul1607]

Oh man kincaid dman bro that is a very scary fade

[@johnpaul1607]

Lol I just texted that right before you said scary fade

[@bt8927]

Agreed. He could be the #1 target, I pick him up every chance I get.

[@unicorncupcakes7718]

I would take him as my #1 TE. Grab him and let the extra targets work for you. I have cook and Kincaid and I'm pinching myself. Hoping for 5 targets and 50 more yards a game between the two. Why would I not expect that?

[@Steve-td5xu]

I have Allen Cook and Kincaid with Samuel on one team and didn't feel that all can't eat but will monitor

[@spaffron4285]

Having him above Mcrbide is sort of wild

[@BobbyDigital-p5f]

Love this channel love underdog only wish that they had more best ball tournaments that were single entry

[@arodalan3961]

I think about this all the time! Wtf!! They need more single entry tournaments

[@rickyrico900]

It’s insane, some allowing 100+ entries it’s a joke

[@Tomotoya]

Fading D'Andre Swift looks really accurate over 3 weeks of the 2024 season 🎯

[@PhilD211]

I want to sincerely thank you for this episode. I really hope my whole league watches it so I can get a couple of those guys at a value. I personally view opportunity over anything else here and most guys are getting fed!

[@A_Hotdog_Guy]

Are yahoo ranking whack? I’ve been doing Mock drafts on yahoo and Jonathan Taylor goes first round in 12 person drafts every time. Usually around pick 9-10.

[@scattau41]

Yahoo does their own rankings based on their in house experts. On Yahoo Etienne last year was an early 2nd rounder where on all other platforms he was 3-4th rounder. They were right.

[@A_Hotdog_Guy]

@@scattau41 Interesting. I didn’t know that. Thank you for the reply. Do you happen to know if the yahoo rankings are trustworthy? Or should I use an alternate ranking system?

[@scattau41]

@@A_Hotdog_Guy You're welcome and yes I find them (generally) trustworthy. I would familiarize myself with the underdog/sleeper rankings then maybe listen to a yahoo fantasy football podcast or 2 to see where they are coming from and kind of balance the two in my own mind.

[@A_Hotdog_Guy]

@@scattau41 I think that is a really good strategy. I’m gonna do that. Good luck this season!

[@somethingstupidthiswaycome6886]

Can't believe yall spent 10 mins on Swift. 25% of the video.

[@superRudy119]

not even worth 5 minutes

[@danielmadsen439]

Cant believe u just watched it and complained after watching a free video that you could stop watching at any moment

[@somethingstupidthiswaycome6886]

@@danielmadsen439 can't believe you can't believe that people make comments on the internet.

[@demetriusarteaga8242]

Swift sucks ..

[@JoeMama-nl8xp]

​@@demetriusarteaga8242swift couldn't punch it in the endzone that's why Hurts got all those totes

[@blessembreaks]

i really like jahmyr but he’s not gonna get the volume a JT is. Yes, he’ll most likely have more chunk plays, catches etc. But Montgomery will get the goal line work and the inside the 5 work. Just dont see him finishing above JT and yet he is getting drafted ahead of him.

[@PhillyEaglesFan66]

The problem with your analysis on Swift is the way the coaching staff used him, or should I say, wasted him. They really underused him as a receiver, and didn’t put him into good position when they did throw him the ball. They also abandoned the run later in the year, which was a huge reason Swift’s stats suffered. Yes the Philly O-line really helps an RB’s stats, but the drop off to Bears is not nearly as far as it was when Miles Sanders went to Carolina.

[@VinegarAndSaltedFries]

Love the videos keep crushing it. Please also count this as a Vote from someone who just got into Best Ball/Underdog who doesn’t want to see it turn into DFS with loads of Autodraft Bots/Applications and everyone using a handful of a couple Rankings. I don’t really care from a competitive perspective, I just think the pure drafting format it has been is awesome and that will 100% ruin some of the enjoyment of it.

[@hanspennyloaf335]

Idk man. I understand the Panthers offense won't be amazing, but the draft capital, tape, numbers and post draft speech from Canales detailing how they plan to use him, lots of manufactured touches and down field shots, have me smashing Xavier Legette at his adp.

[@jluchette]

I like Pearsall over him in that vicinity, but I've got a good amount of Legette as a WR 5ish. The upside of all the rooks vs. established mediocre talent is well worth rostering.

[@hanspennyloaf335]

@@jluchette I've got a bit of Pearsall as well, but the prospect of him taking away a meaningful target share from guys like CMC, Deebo, Aiyuk, and Kittle seems a whole lot less likely than Legette competing for targets against Johnson and the ghost of Adam Thielen. Carolina also has a much worse defense which should result in Carolina playing from behind and throwing a lot more than they want to.

[@jimralston4789]

I don't even know how anyone can take Pearsall when the Niners have so many other elite targets. Legette anyday just because he's likely to be the most talented WR on his team day 1.

[@mikehergenroether6160]

I don't love Swift overall but I don't mind his ADP. If a guy with that talent level getting over 50 percent of the touches is your back end RB2, I think you're doing okay, assuming you've used prior picks to bolster WR.

[@davidvilla3340]

I don’t think Swift has the efficiency he did last year, but he will be the dump off option for a rookie qb, he’s obviously the lead back, and the bears have arguably the easiest schedule. Plus the bears O line was middle of the pack last year so it wasn’t awful. I expect him to finish somewhere in the rb15-20 range. But I wouldn’t be surprised if he makes it a little higher.

[@kingrex1931]

I'm with you guys on D'Andre Swift. I remember being ridiculed last year when I said he wouldn't be a top 10 back.

[@ChadShadel]

I'm avoiding Bears WRs. I like all of them but I am a Bears fan and I have my doubts that Eberflus and his ultra conservative nature is going to suddenly allow for a pass happy attack. That and they have a rookie QB and brand New OC too much unknowns for me to feel comfortable at the high price tags they are going for. Im basically fading all bears with the exception of Kmet who is going way to late IMO.

[@williamhermann6635]

You might be the smartest Bears fan alive.

[@Red87star]

Same, but I'll take a share or 2 if they slide.

[@pfunk1992]

So why get the weapons of you not gone use them? I’m a bears fan as well & thinks they can win 12 games seeing that they have a easy schedule

[@ChadShadel]

@@pfunk1992 There's a lot of change which was needed 💯. Shane Waldren minus Dave Canales wasn't good last year. His offense played very slow and that's really concerning. How much influence will Eberflus have on play calling is my second question. Because he is very conservative when games are on the line to the point where we lost at least three last year because he would go ultra conservative calling the defense and then they'd get torched on d late in a bunch of games. Defense would go from airtight to can't stop anything. I'm not sold on coaching staff and I don't know if they will actually utilize the talent they have. This is the same GM and Head Coach that watched Getsy install a quick out bubble screen offense making Justin Fields a pocket passer and didn't do anything... His strengths are running and deep passes and they took those away and thought this is a good idea. So yeah I am not confident in the coaching and leadership of this team.

[@williamhermann6635]

@@pfunk1992 Because all the weapons in the world dont mean anything when you have a rookie qb playing behind a trash oline.

[@matthewmcclure3181]

0% share for three 1st Rd players through 23 drafts (statistical anomaly haven't picked #1, #11 or #12): J Chase (have him slotted #8 -> never slides to 1.8) B Robinson (take B Hall 100% or pivot to WR -> expect a lot yards but modest TDs for Robinson) G Wilson (slotted him #10 and love him -> a WR I slotted higher slips to 1.10 every draft... usually A Brown or A St. Brown)

[@jasonnoyesjn]

I'll be different... in both my leagues I will be targeting Swift! I think he will be big this year. Teams won't be stacking the box vs Chicago with all of their threats - I think that will leave big holes for Swift. Also - I think he will catch a lot of passes. Maybe I am wrong...but I like his potential

[@Steve-td5xu]

Knox We'll be in a 2 te formation with Kincaid so he shouldn't be much of a factor in reference to Kincaid's production

[@frankallen52]

Would you trade JT away for Odunze in a dynasty 1QB 1ppr?

[@williamb2290]

Hoping you are right with Swift as I think Herbert is a better option for us. I just think the coaching staff keep pumping him up and reliable Bears reporters have suggested he will be the feature guy and that Herbert might not make the team. I think Herbert is the better player but I am not sure the Bears agree with us

[@abstract911]

This is like when the community loves a player during the pre draft process and the nfl tells us they don't agree (Troy franklin) and you still hold onto hope that he's good. Not only did the bears pay swift a pretty large contract with guarantees, there has been multiple rumors of herbert being traded. Where there's smoke. Hoping herbert is the guy to own in this backfield is cope. And I like herbert and I hope he's traded to a team who has a hole at rb, but it's swift time in chicago

[@Red87star]

Herbert still bad as pass pro. Shame as he's a great runner.

[@ddavisgaming]

One year ago we were excited to draft J.K. Dobbins over Gus Edwards in Baltimore. Fast forward one year and everyone's drafting Gus over Dobbins. I know injuries play a role in that ADP, but damn I want to get more Dobbins.

[@Shawn-ey7qg]

Some nice fades. I am light on JT and also terrified, but not a full fade for me more like 5% because have Saquon ranked above him and the other WR in second half of round 2, but he could hurt me for sure.... I am also light on Swift who I only have in a few lineups with Caleb for the correlation (he is a pretty good pass catcher, but I HATE him at the goal line). I am not worried about fading Swift. I like him in Caleb lineups only because he could have correlated TD in playoffs.

[@williamdzialak9328]

Kincaid as a fade is crazy lol. MAYBE he's a little high on ADP right now, but you even stated you'll still be drafting him, and that the split b/w him and Knox will be lower and he has a great chance to lead one of the best offenses in the league in targets and catches. Especially paired with Allen, who will almost guaranteed be top 3 in QB points, it's a no brainer to stack them often. I'm fine with you naming him a little bit overvalued, but he shouldn't be in a "we refuse to draft" video lol.

[@unicorncupcakes7718]

He will be the TE #1. So many advantages this year for him. Take him and pat yourself on the back.

[@kylenewton6274]

Josh's reaction at 01:22 is hilarious :D

[@patrickkilduff5272]

People aren't 'drafting' D'andre Smith...he is dropping to you in the 10th round. He is this years Antonio Gibson

[@waynomac32]

10x10tm 1qb PPR. No TEP. dealt swift, 1.08 (Ladd) and 2025 late 3rd for 1.04 (Rome), Charbonnet and 4.06 (Bucky Irving). Pretty happy to get credit for Swift and get Rome.

[@brett4932]

If you're running hero RB, which is objectively the best strategy to run this season - grabbing an elite WR in round 1 and a guy like JT in round 2 is a smash. Fading JT in the first round, I'm all about it. Fading him past that seems silly when you know he's one of like 5 guys who will get as close to bellcow work as possible, even if A-Rich vultures him a bit. As an aside - the mike williams fade might be the lowest hanging fruit of all time lol. Can we get a re-do on that one??? I feel cheated.

[@cassiuscarter2832]

Jon Taylor does have a week 14 bye which has me avoiding him a bit more otherwise i love his value at the turn he should be ahead of Bijan and Gibbs for sure we know hes a top 5 RB talent wise

[@questforchips]

I will not even look at Cooper Kupp this year with his 3rd round grade. Many more reliable options plus as mentioned really strong RB picks after going WR WR.

[@eag8999]

Kupp will be a wr1, probably top 8. You will regret this.

[@questforchips]

@@eag8999 He has a degenerative muscle problem in his hamstrings. He will be top 8 for 6 weeks then his body will fall apart and miss the rest of the season. I will not regret anything.

[@milomacdonald4980]

​@@eag8999 I like Kupp but he wont be #1 on his team

[@cocothethicc6959]

I’ve been drafting a lot of Achane and Moestart. I trust the dolphins offense to get them red zone success. I have one league where I got both of them because I didn’t like the other players. Also, they always seem to be available .

[@cameronzwicke5761]

Because neither can be trusted to play the whole season, and both can be trusted to poach tds from each other. That's why people are staying away from both. Plus neither was able to put up consistent play, if the games were not blowouts. There were weeks when they would only get you 4-7 points in a half ppr league, that's bad.

[@rickwelch8464]

@@cameronzwicke5761 Achane is going in the 2nd round. Very few people aren't on him

[@JoeMama-nl8xp]

​@@cameronzwicke5761too many eggs in one basket

[@curmudgeon8]

Man, I hope you guys are right about Caleb Williams on the goal line

[@theconsigliere2301]

@Hayden I expected you to say Barkley/Achane and not JT. You are a wild man

[@bigcheese9096]

Why is there so much barkley hate?

[@augustuswetzel]

Fades: Breece Hall,JT, Achane, Nabers, Tank Dell, Kyren, Kirk, Godwin, Aaron Jones, Zamir White, Connor, Javonte Will, Shakir, Ekler, Brown, Downs, Gabe Davis, mooney

[@TFFForecast]

Achane and Kyren for sure

[@pfunk1992]

Why Zamir White & Conner? Brown? A.J. brown?

[@pfunk1992]

Don’t like Javonte Will?

[@augustuswetzel]

@@pfunk1992 chase Brown, and I think Zamir is next cam Akers, and Connor will get passed up

[@pfunk1992]

@@augustuswetzel Zamir showed he can be a lead back when Jacobs was hurt & Conner is a set & forget guy, his only problem is health. Conner bailed me out plenty of weeks with his production 😊

[@anycoveryoulike7510]

I dont know man, i think JT is going at a good value. Early 2nd for a former 1.01 who's fully healthy now and like you said Trey Sermon is his backup, I see a bounce back year and early 2nd is solid. Mine at each position are Mahomes, Achane, Olave and Pitts. I make fantasy football videos too, check it out if you're interested

[@danieldefontes2810]

I think reason D Swift gets drafted is because people remember a few huge games he had not the low end RB2 finish to the season

[@cbjungle68]

Totally agree on Taylor...he is my surprise bust this year based on where he is being drafted.

[@TheAliasGaming]

I'm not necessarily against fading Legette. The offense would have to take such a leap and even if it does that might just mean Diontae was huge. For the offense to be so good to support both would be a nearly inconceivable leap. Some of the reasons you listed are a little vibes bassed tho lol. If we're worried about Mingo taking too much away then you just hate the Legette projection under any circumstances. Mingo's metrics across the board were god awful. If he's stealing snaps away then the bigger issue isn't Panthers dynamics, it's just that Legette is bad lmao. I'm curious if there's a distinction for you that makes JT a near 0 at price versus Saquon. They seem like similar projections to me. High talent RBs with a capped ceiling on catches and goal line opportunities.

[@317Deven]

JT gonna be nice this year. Settled the dispute with Irsay, ready to ball out.

[@JA_110]

As much as I want and love yals glow up, chillllll, my league mates cant find out

[@alexallegood1040]

Y’all’s has 2 L’s😂

[@JA_110]

@@alexallegood1040 you aint from the south south

[@alexallegood1040]

@@JA_110 lmao I’m in the dead south of South Ga, you don’t know how to spell😂

[@alexallegood1040]

@@JA_110 where you from

[@alexallegood1040]

Better not say South Carolina😂

[@shawnaldrich3267]

Why are you guys drafting and in leagues already that's kinda crazy we still have 2 plus months till football injuries do happen

[@caseyhenry8862]

Fading List: Olave, Diggs, K Allen, AD Mitchell, Legette, Roman Wilson; Barkley, Aaron Jones, Conner, Pollard, Zeke, Dowdle

[@alexallegood1040]

Man who are you drafting?

[@TheAlexmacintyre7]

Taking Brandin Cooks over Jakobi Meyers is pure insanity

[@johnpaul1607]

I love the face as he says the stats on jt. Honestly i agree and dont take him alot either for that reason but man it doesnt feel good.

[@mitchellapple9184]

I’ve already got Hurts, I’d love to grab Saquan if he lasts to the 2nd.

[@abstract911]

I'm gonna push back on swift here. It's easy to look at is as a negative downgrading his offensive line, but look how the eagles utilized swift. I don't have every game available to watch but I would probably bet a lot of money that a majority of those goal line carries were out of the shotgun. You could argue the eagles utilized swift pretty poorly. Also if you pace out swifts first 9 games, weeks 2 through 11(he didn't play week 1) and the eagles literally imploded from weeks 12-17, over 17 games: 85 ypg, 4 targets per game, 21.8 rec ypg for 1450~ rush yards, 350~ rush yards, 8.5 tds. You're talking about a top 3 rb season which maybe? Is unrealistic, but even if so, you can probably ball park his stats somewhere inbetween that and where he actually finished. Are we seriously not putting any weight into the way 1) the eagles used swift, and 2) the eagles imploding down the stretch from weeks 12-17. Even swifts usage changed in those 5 weeks. His targets dropped from 4~ per game to 2~ per game. Also, let's stop peddling this lie that the eagles moved on from swift "as fast as they could". All reports out of Philly were that the eagles wanted to re sign swift. The bears were likely talking to swift during the tampering period and scooped him up *swiftly* before the eagles could even react. They lost out on swift, they didn't intentionally move on from swift. I'm also biased because I'm all over swift this year as my highest owned player, but this swift slander is crazy imo.

[@Greenbean1202]

Haha. Atleast you admit your bias, and have a conviction. But I think it's misplaced. Don't feel bad, I was the sameway about Jahan Dotson and Sam Howell last season. But we have plenty of time to safely predict that Swift just isn't great. Useful, sure, but never going to be a high-end RB by the end of the season. More of a weekly winners pick, more than a season long tourney. But he could spike in weeks 15-17...just like anyone. But highest owned player is a big risk imo, considering the players going around him.

[@abstract911]

@terrygreen3000 there's more question marks around Zack moss, najee/warren, brooks, and zamir white than d'andre swift. There are actually like no questions about swift imo, just the fact whether you think he's good or not. We know the bears paid him to be the guy. Swift, 24 mil 3 year deal, 8 mil per year, 15.3 mil guaranteed. Without a shadow of a doubt he was brought in to be the rb1. Zack moss, 8 mil, 2 year contract, only 3mil guaranteed. Does not inspire confidence that he will be the guy over chase brown whatsoever. Warren/najee, very weird dynamic with Arthur Smith and his history of doing unconventional things. If I had to guess they produce about the same but neither shoulder a rb1 load that you're looking for. Johnathon brooks, bad offense, and literally no idea on a return from a late acl injury last year. Could be early, could be late. You could miss half a years production. There's certainly question marks. Zamir white, bad offense with incompetent qb play, jury is still out on who this guy even is. Is he the rb1, is this a 2 or 3 man backfield? Literally no way to know. Meh prospect, couple good weeks down the stretch but was the only viable rb on the team. Complete gamble. Zamir white looked dead in the water until those last few weeks of the 23 season. For me, swift EASILY, has the least amount of question marks in this group. Literally the only question mark is do you think swift is good. The bears told us they believe in swift and the tape shows swift is a baller. I'm all in on swift over the rbs in this range that you claim are better for some reason. Also sam howell and jahan dotsons 2023 season blame can be pretty squarely placed on their dog shit OC bienemy.

[@cameronzwicke5761]

​@@abstract911 swift wears down as the season progresses, it's happened every season after his rookie year. He didn't get into the offense until around week 6 in his rookie season.

[@abstract911]

@cameronzwicke5761 swift didn't wear down last season ?

[@spaffron4285]

I havent drafted anyone yet because I'm not a junkie/fish drafting b4 the preseason starts

[@Nindoty231]

Horrible RB’s have great seasons playing in Philadelphia. The All pro Center is gone so maybe there won’t be as much tush pushes, but we are brain dead to not understand how dominant Barkley could be in that offense

[@chaseflores2145]

Ummmm no they don’t 😂

[@kinghoward6632]

Zero Kelce… 2023 week 15 - 7.8, pts week 16 - 9.8 pts, WEEK 17 *4.6* pts (DK) just a complete bust in the playoffs last year, high probability of that happening again this year. No thanks, love u man but too much opportunity cost, way too much for a part-timer, especially during the money weeks. I wouldn't draft him in the 6th lol

[@Dadrian91]

Hurts over Allen ?? 😅 I think Barkley takes points from Jalen , couple new online pieces too

[@rickwelch8464]

My zero or very low dudes: Adam Theilen, Tyler Lockett, Tony Pollard, Jakobi Meyers, Jerry Jeudy, Allen Lazard, Dalton Kincaid, George Kittle, Antonio Gibson, Kalil Shakir, Quentin Johnston.

[@theohiooutdoors2444]

I have zero of some of these guys!

[@rickwelch8464]

@@theohiooutdoors2444 These are my zero guys

[@Nairby-SLA]

I love Pollard.

[@rickwelch8464]

@@Nairby-SLA I can definitely see the allure at his price, he's the one that I may have to get a little more of.

[@whydoihavetodothis44]

Hurts doesn't "run" the ball inside the 10YD Line. That narrative should be put to rest and that stat is meaningless when comparing to a traditional RB. Hurts "runs" from the 1yd line with 2 guys pushing him forward and his OL perfecting giving him 1yd. Will be interesting to see if his efficiency on the tush push goes down sans Kelce. C is a pretty important position when you are running through the A gap every single time.

[@dereklocke18]

40-50 drafts! Damn! I am doing 3 this year and I thought I was over-doing it!!!!

[@ronniesen2522]

Been doing 25 per year since 2016. Before that 10 per year Since 1997.

[@friendlyneighborhoodcollec5928]

@@ronniesen2522how do you manage all of that?

[@ronniesen2522]

@@friendlyneighborhoodcollec5928 it's a process.

[@Twincity55]

I have a chunk % of my teams with both sequan and JT on them. Can't wait for them to remind people what freak talannts they are 💰💰💰

[@gardockis.playground]

Henry is not a similar profile to J Taylor 🤷

[@rodneybean3424]

Agree on Swift but disagree on your Hurts comparison. Hurts was so successful “inside the 5” because they were all “tush pushes” from the 1 yard line.

[@joseamieva2168]

I prefer prioritizing WR in the first two rounds. Then again, JT is more proven than achane, plus Barkley has Hurts as a vulture. I'd rather just avoid RB altogether unless I get the 1.1

[@Lonewanderer1738]

It feels so bad in underdogs not having three WRs in the first 5 rounds

[@ski81a]

I've been taking X. LEGGET 15th round. For a bench stash.

[@tommynixon7518]

Round 1-2 guys winks isn't drafting (my guess): Bijan, Saquon, Marvin, Olave, Deebo. I'm also low on MH Jr and Olave bc saints are hot ass garbage and MH Jr will probably be Wr 2 behind McBride. Winks definitely betting on Ayjuk staying too but I'm not sure about that🤔

[@unicorncupcakes7718]

Olave is a brick of gold for trades. Stash him for nothing else but stealing a first round and comparable position trade in the season.

[@Red87star]

​@@unicorncupcakes7718Nobody trading a first fir Olave. If so, take it and run! I'll sell him for that if able.

[@Lonewanderer1738]

Depending on position Josh Jacobs does feel like a value

[@Ryan-by8ui]

I love the constant evolution of fantasy football verbiage. It used to be a guys “stock” was high or low, then you had shares, then exposure, now it’s overweight / underweight 😂

[@dogthedogdog]

Those Swift and Hurt inside the 10 percentages are misleading. Swift got the carries at the 8-9 yard line and Hurts got them at the 1-2.

[@MegaJusWright]

Not drafting JT in the second round is foolish at best. I could see passing on him but only if there’s a player that you believe has league winning potential

[@rohanshah7559]

Yeah like if you got a shot at a potential top 8 receiving finisher like Marvin Harrison then sure, but don’t be passing on Jonathan Taylor for someone like Devonta Smith whose gonna get you no more than 230 ppr points max

[@SaltySpitoonStudios]

Comparing jalen hurts inside red zone TD success rate to Swifts is a little silly considering hurts scored like 90% of those on QB sneaks…

[@scattau41]

No Tee Higgins no Slim Reaper. Great episode!

[@richardm7866]

I’ve not taken CMC 1 single time. Over 75 drafts completed and I’ve never had the #1 pick lmao

[@JerJoGo]

I have avoided Nabers. Way too high for a rookie on an offense that was that bad and with Jones at QB still (although i think he's dropped a bit over then past a few weeks). And Alvin Kamara. He looked nowhere near as explosive last season. I dont want to say hes lost a step, but he certainly looked it last season.

[@Bailey-qe9zd]

These were valid takes at the time but both have not aged well lol

[@TryHardProductions1]

There's not a big difference between JT and Devon Achane?? I think you're going to be rethinking that one boss.

[@matthewdavis3014]

I like Mike Williams. Rodgers likes bigger receivers especially on those back shoulder and fades. Red zone target, defenses are afraid of Wilson deep unlike Allen. Jacobi Meyers is going to loose work to Bowers and Tucker. The Raiders are a run first team that’s loaded at receiver.

[@Nairby-SLA]

Can he stay healthy?

[@matthewdavis3014]

@@Nairby-SLA at #132 I’m willing to risk it

[@paulbornastar]

Montgomery and Mostert are great pick-ups cuz they score most of the TDs

[@kevinteo4817]

One player keeper league: J Taylor (round 7) or Gibbs (round 4)

[@PopeVisual]

Taylor so easy

[@CryptoNoworNever]

I will probably get torched, but I have 24% Chase and 2.1% Tyreek...😂 I always go Chase over Hill.🙏

[@themashugana9440]

I've never gotten the "JK Dobbins has been 'really good' when healthy." He's had a few good moments, but he's so far removed from them at this point. He's always injured with MAJOR injuries. I mean, maybe he can come back & play. D'Onta Foreman overcame early career injuries, so it's possible. But please, stop with this "he's the most talented RB on the roster" nonsense. He might not even be the most talented, & he might be done in terms of the injuries he's suffered.

[@arodalan3961]

JK Dobbins said himself in an interview that he wasn’t expecting much out of this opportunity but happy to be in the league after the injuries!!

[@vinniehugo9065]

Wow, surprised he would say that.

[@brucek5578]

Really? I read he said he is 100% and ready to rock

[@crazyskills5033]

love the list!

[@Maggie1965]

I had Meyers last season. He did great.

[@NicholasKrajnc]

Marvin Harrisson Jr. I get the rookie fever, but damn, he is so expensive for a rookie that doesn’t make any sense to draft him up there…. Will be a amazing WR, no doubt, but for this price (WR 5-8) I am passing him every time. Even for dynasty, because I rather have Puka, NFL proven talent, than him.

[@ProjectBadass360]

Khalil Herbert is the same thing as Deandre Swift. Herbert has a slight edge in pass blocking with a 54.4 PB grade and 47.9 for Swift. They’re both identical in height and weight. They both have missed time to injury. Herbert has missed 9 games in the last 2 years. And Swift has missed around 8 in the last 3 years. Herbert is just the insurance policy to Swift and for that reason the Bears won’t trade Herbert. But to say one is better than the other is kind of ridiculous.

[@whydoihavetodothis44]

Roschon better at PB than both and Swift got the bag in CHI so he is getting majority of work. Herbert could find himself in DAL which would be a good thing for him.

[@ancarlson7]

No clue how you can not draft Swift when Zamir, Moss, and Warren are the closest RBs. He's an easy pick out of those 4. 3

[@Greenbean1202]

Mooney is a great late wr pick in bestball imo.

[@bmart13586]

I want none of those WRs over JT. If Pacheco or Henry are still there in the 3rd, I'll just take them too.

[@Edub-Winter]

Daniel Jeremiah, JK Dobbins in 5 seasons played these game totals, 0, 15, 0, 8 and 1, that's 24 out of roughly 80 games. I would never draft him.

[@SlimCharles17]

I can't believe Dalton Kincaid is on this list.... shut it off after that one

[@friendlyneighborhoodcollec5928]

Insanity

[@sethers9922]

Go watch the CBS guys “do not draft” list and take all of them. Your team will be good

[@dr.jamiejakes7422]

Rome Odunze is returning punts. 14:00

[@victimizeakaboomsta8995]

I was lucky to get JT the year he broke out but haven’t touched him since. I just get this kuwabara tingle/tickle that tells me to stay away from him.