7 Tips for Perfect Woodworking Panel Glue-Ups

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In this video we cover several tips and techniques to help you get the flattest panels possible. These include selecting lumber, milling, clamping strategies, grain orientation, and more! The ability to make a flat panel is one of the most important things in woodworking. They are the foundation for literally almost every project. So the more of these techniques you can work into your process, the better off you'll be, and the nicer your projects will be.
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0:00 Introduction
0:18 Picking Lumber
2:25 Milling Lumber
4:31 Grain Orientation
6:31 In/Out" and/or "Up/Down
7:26 Dowels, Dominos, and Biscuits
9:49 Dowelminokits
9:52 Dowmiscuitos
11:38 Usage

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@jeremyspecce
@jeremyspecce 2 жыл бұрын
Local panel flatteners are furious about these seven simple tricks! (Do this every day)
@wiseoldfool
@wiseoldfool 2 жыл бұрын
lmao
@michalefrancia5710
@michalefrancia5710 Жыл бұрын
The author does like to kzbin.infoUgkxkNYRBJuiJ6EwD-tQSAlxg0eFKsnR2cgz from scratch, shaping and trimming wood from large blocks into fine finished products. As another reviewer mentioned, most projects require a lot of high-dollar equipment that most of us don't have the room or budget for. But, knowing how to do these things, even if we won't be able to practice the full stack project, is still great.
@stevestewart5496
@stevestewart5496 5 ай бұрын
Not true. These techniques can be accomplished with a modest set of tools
@keatonherzer5038
@keatonherzer5038 2 жыл бұрын
loving the 3d animations to help explain these concepts. really helpful video!
@dandanklerdandankler2244
@dandanklerdandankler2244 2 жыл бұрын
First off, both of you do such a great job explaining your process and the potentially alternative procedures. Second your channel is probably my favorite due to the visual aspect you guys add also. Keep up the amazing content and work!
@jaina8648
@jaina8648 2 жыл бұрын
Every time I watch or rewatch any of your videos, I end up picking up something new. Thanks for putting out such quality content!
@SwearingenTurnings
@SwearingenTurnings 2 жыл бұрын
I've been working wood for many years and still learn from you guys. Please keep it up! I just started building your Longview dining table and am super excited about it. I'll incorporate c-channel to ensure it remains flat.
@Foureyes.Furniture
@Foureyes.Furniture 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Jason, appreciate the kind words and the support. Best of luck with the build. As for the C-channel. It definitely won't hurt. But it might not be necessary. I would say, see how your panel is shaping up, and if it seems like it is needed...then go for it. Otherwise you may be able to skip it.
@hristijanmirceski6027
@hristijanmirceski6027 2 жыл бұрын
Hello I love the content you present and knowledge that you share. have one question: Instead of C-chanel can I use piece of wood that I could put in the groove on the same location where there is a C-chanel. The grains of this inserted piece of wood would be perpendicular to the grains of the boards. This was the advice that I got from local more experienced collague. He also said that I should use these reinforcements on every 40 to 50cm and that I should use wood glue for securing it not bolts. He also mentioned that this will help with reducing wood movement?
@henrybressack77
@henrybressack77 2 жыл бұрын
Outstanding way to present to teach an old guy some new tricks. LOL Thanks
@Hakuwoodworks
@Hakuwoodworks 2 жыл бұрын
Great video as always! You two are truly a great team, your approach and logic is exceptional. Thank you
@sander-MW3
@sander-MW3 2 жыл бұрын
5:36 Next to great info and builds, this type of subtle humor is what makes this channel so great!
@mportusable
@mportusable 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice, many times you watch furniture build videos and the milling looks like an afterthought. When you finally try to do it yourself, all that stuff from this video comes to get you, it's far from a trivial matter and can be really time consuming and hard to get right.
@YasinNabi
@YasinNabi 2 жыл бұрын
wow one of my best videso to watch for today..... thanks for sharing,.,,.,
@christopherdeangelus8226
@christopherdeangelus8226 Жыл бұрын
This is one of the best videos for new woodworkers on KZbin, period. Some much practical, real world information in this. The visuals are fantastic too.
@chengliu872
@chengliu872 2 ай бұрын
No because most new woodworkers wouldn't have the kind of equipment that these guys have.
@robertbankhead8661
@robertbankhead8661 2 жыл бұрын
your video quality is off the charts, not to mention creating new words, mind blown!
@johntiefel4248
@johntiefel4248 2 жыл бұрын
You guys cause me a lot of frustration!! Your videos have so much really good information, I have to watch them several times. "THANKS, GUYS" Keep up the good work.
@greenwoodsmithing867
@greenwoodsmithing867 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, as usual. It’s relieving to know that even you guys (because your furniture looks flawless) have problems with imperfect boards after you’ve taken every measure.
@TheWeekendWoodshop
@TheWeekendWoodshop 2 жыл бұрын
Great tips guys! Also, THANK YOU for bringing back the tape ball 😁
@rdb4996
@rdb4996 2 жыл бұрын
Really liked the presentation in this video. Nice vibe going with the 2 of you and a good chuckle at 8:45 😊
@thomlipiczky9021
@thomlipiczky9021 2 жыл бұрын
Your videos are terrific because of 1) excellent production values--filming/editing, clarity of writing, animated grafix, B) very nice design sense on your furniture (and I'm generally not a fan of "mid-century", but you guys show its best qualities), and three) your engaging, dead-pan, very clear narration. I've been enjoying your stuff for a while now, and send my thanks to you and your team!
@jasonferrelli324
@jasonferrelli324 2 жыл бұрын
Dowmiscuitos is hands down my new favorite word!
@juneritchie2498
@juneritchie2498 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! This is a very helpful recap of the key aspects.
@aslacker
@aslacker 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks guys, these look super helpful.
@jbb5470
@jbb5470 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, you presented several very good tips! Thank you for posting!
@dalecampbell9259
@dalecampbell9259 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much. All of your videos are great, but I particularly appreciated this one.
@PLaTerra
@PLaTerra 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent- thanks guys.
@johnries5094
@johnries5094 Жыл бұрын
Shoe game on point. Good channel 👍🏻 appreciate you guys
@Mohbus
@Mohbus 2 жыл бұрын
THANK you for the in/out jointer tip. I recently butchered a panel glue up because my jointer was slightly off.
@WatchMeDIYIt
@WatchMeDIYIt 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info!
@edwardsimmons3721
@edwardsimmons3721 2 жыл бұрын
Very well done explanation.
@Tirocote
@Tirocote 2 жыл бұрын
great video!! I love the production style
@3hotln
@3hotln 2 жыл бұрын
Great video - high quality content! " Loving the 3d animations to help explain these concepts ". Thank you so much!
@jacoboalamea717
@jacoboalamea717 2 жыл бұрын
Great Job guys!
@karl_alan
@karl_alan 2 жыл бұрын
@5:30 thank you. Everyone talks about the endgrain wave, but if I have a preference for which face shows for the look I'm going for, I too will ignore this "rule" and have never had bad cupping or anything as a result.
@donnygrahambuilds
@donnygrahambuilds 2 жыл бұрын
Solid informative video 👍🏽
@ios6605
@ios6605 Жыл бұрын
Keep using the graphic design program it’s awesome I love it I am actually addicted to it 👀👍🏼
@kailuasurfing
@kailuasurfing 6 ай бұрын
Under picking lumber: I would offer that ensuring a relatively low moisture content is great. Boards like to do a lot of moving as they dry.
@liamcallahan6652
@liamcallahan6652 2 жыл бұрын
well done guys, once again
@KurtMGibbs
@KurtMGibbs 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks!
@MountainPostWoodworks
@MountainPostWoodworks 2 жыл бұрын
Great information
@danielrybin2006
@danielrybin2006 2 жыл бұрын
Gosh I needed this.
@Isaac-ph5co
@Isaac-ph5co 2 жыл бұрын
thanks, will help me a lot
@jacoblankford2517
@jacoblankford2517 Жыл бұрын
This is a very under watched, underappreciated video, thank you guys for putting the time and effort into this. Analytics may not show the "helpfulness" of a video but if they did, this video would score a 19/10, would definitely recommend.
@davidjanis1997
@davidjanis1997 2 жыл бұрын
Missed you guys!
@GrantOakes
@GrantOakes 11 ай бұрын
WOW, your content is AMAZING!
@abad_gtr1123
@abad_gtr1123 2 жыл бұрын
another excellent video....i learned a lot
@wiseoldfool
@wiseoldfool 2 жыл бұрын
Great animations!
@SirFrankoman
@SirFrankoman 2 жыл бұрын
I call it the OI method because it saves me from yelling OI VEY from bowed glue ups 😂
@ithiagomendes
@ithiagomendes 2 жыл бұрын
nice tips! as a woodworker myself, this video is like listing a very good check-up list! and also, almost, like a curse. if um don't check one of the items... something will twist. thank you for the hard work! big fan.
@prettynicefield1104
@prettynicefield1104 2 жыл бұрын
Ohhh ! Got it domiscuitos !!
@vincepopo7497
@vincepopo7497 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the tips for getting all my banana boards to look nice, before I can get the Rocklefestlakita Dowmiscuito jointer into the shop!
@whatever_12
@whatever_12 2 жыл бұрын
10:30 You just give me the idea of using those rockler clamp to keep it coplaner at the edges.. Easier than setting up 6 clamp!
@MrSeminole77
@MrSeminole77 2 жыл бұрын
More high quality content- keep up intermediate level please. Thanks for all the input/ time you invest.
@ObnoxiousMedic7
@ObnoxiousMedic7 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like a weirdo saying this because I love the woodworking you guys teach me, it help a ton! I somehow found the audio change between the shots a little hard to get used to.
@walterrider9600
@walterrider9600 2 жыл бұрын
thank you
@lorenzobeckmann3736
@lorenzobeckmann3736 8 ай бұрын
I am doing this very build-up now; you make great suggestions. !My wood looks exactly as your table top build-up; I'm putting "bread board" ends b-4 seeing this - now see added benifit for such. Thanks
@garagemonkeysan
@garagemonkeysan 2 жыл бұрын
Great video and tips. Mahalo for sharing! : )
@jamesitube
@jamesitube 2 жыл бұрын
"You're not out of the woods yet" - that was funny
@enzomartin757
@enzomartin757 11 ай бұрын
Juste merci 🙏
@JohnnyDaines
@JohnnyDaines Ай бұрын
After following this to the T to make my first panel, the only other tip I would add is this: Do one step at a time for all your boards before moving to the next step. I ran into an issue after the glue up was done because all of my panels were slightly different thicknesses (Only by about a 32nd of an inch or so) because I did each plank of wood from start to finish before moving onto the next piece. I wish I would’ve done all of the planing at each thickness for each piece before moving onto a thinner plane as I planed it to my final thickness. Hopefully that made sense.
@dathaniel9403
@dathaniel9403 2 жыл бұрын
Another version of the in/out or up/down method: if using a hand plane, gang up every adjoining edge of each joint and plane them flat together. For example if you had three boards A, B, and C with edges |1 2||3 4||5 6|, you'd take boards A and B and put them together with edges 2 and 3 facing up in the vise and plane them flat, then flip board B end over end, place board C beside it, and plane edges 4 and 5 together the same way. No matter how out of square your planing ends up, as long as those combined surfaces are coplanar, those edges will be complimentary and the panel will be perfectly flat.
@Simonfrios
@Simonfrios 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. One thing I’ve long struggled with is how to deal with very long boards on the jointer, let’s say the rails of a bed that have a significant bow to them. Would you somehow set up additional in feet or outfield? How do you handle this? Love your videos!
@Foureyes.Furniture
@Foureyes.Furniture 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Simon. I have never set up additional in/out feed. Honestly I think it would end up doing more harm than good. The chances of matching the angle would be really low. Esepcailly with how "un-flat/even" most floors are. If anything, we've had two people help support the piece while jointing. All that said. In my experience, the longer the board, the less important perfect flatness becomes. On the bed I just build, my long rails definitely had a slight bow to them. But it's unnoticeable in the finished piece, once the slats are inserted, because they kind of hold the panels parellel to one another. Very similar to the "Usage" idea at the end of this video
@Simonfrios
@Simonfrios 2 жыл бұрын
@@Foureyes.Furniture this is so useful. I've always assumed everything just had to be flat until now. Thanks for widening my horizons on this one!
@LoganLovell
@LoganLovell 2 жыл бұрын
i JUST glued up a panel for a coffee table! I knew I should've waited a little longer😂
@patpuckett240
@patpuckett240 Жыл бұрын
What are your thoughts on intentionally setting the table saw blade to 1 degree for the up down method ?
@colemanmcc
@colemanmcc 2 жыл бұрын
All in on dowelmiscuitoes
@ex-staticchiropracticdrrob7185
@ex-staticchiropracticdrrob7185 2 жыл бұрын
We should all adopt the term Dowmbiscuitos lol
@d.g.7416
@d.g.7416 2 жыл бұрын
....buen vídeo......👌👌👌
@Chipotle661944
@Chipotle661944 2 жыл бұрын
I take o-fence to your suggesting that my jointer might be off. Shaun will like that joke.
@bobiechen
@bobiechen 2 жыл бұрын
ok I lost it at "dowmiscuitos" 🤣
@VitaliyWoodMaster
@VitaliyWoodMaster 2 жыл бұрын
Good video! Greetings from Ukraine!
@paulramirez7792
@paulramirez7792 Жыл бұрын
Great video guys! Loving the tips. Quick question- does plywood cup or bow like solid wood?
@nickbrutanna9973
@nickbrutanna9973 2 жыл бұрын
A query -- what do you use on cauls to prevent them from attaching to the excess glue from glue-ups? I've basically taken some saran wrap and used spray glue to attach it to the 2x4s, semi-permanently (it may come free over time as the adhesive ages, but it does a decent job of making it stick to the wood)... But I'm open to other ideas.
@bucketofsteam9260
@bucketofsteam9260 2 жыл бұрын
Painters tape on the face that extends up the edges (doesn't have to be all the way, just like 1/4" or whatever). If you're more than a hobbyist I would get some relatively thin slats of aluminum.
@timarmstrong2338
@timarmstrong2338 2 жыл бұрын
Great content and good job of explaining, only problem is that not everyone has all the equipment that you have available but we still have the same problems.
@instantalbums
@instantalbums Жыл бұрын
Yes I agree - gotta really on the supplier doing it for you.
@JyB818
@JyB818 2 жыл бұрын
Just randomly scrolling through the Roku channels and stumbled onto one of your old videos. FYI Roku channel 458 the Makers Channel
@cardboardorigami
@cardboardorigami 2 жыл бұрын
Nice
@dc85337
@dc85337 4 ай бұрын
In addition to using metal channel on the bottom - would not wood battens also be used? They could be inset or not and then glued and screwed - right? Have you tried that method?
@Operateur
@Operateur Жыл бұрын
Great video! I have a question about the clamps. You have those Jorgensen clamps, are they any good? They are like half the price compared to the Bessey clamps. thanks
@steph3n17
@steph3n17 2 жыл бұрын
How do you pick for grain when it is rough lumber at the yard? For example for walnut I cannot see the grain until plane. Thanks
@biggorilla83
@biggorilla83 2 жыл бұрын
is there a standard depth for the in/out method to take off? i dont see anyone doing anything like putting pencil on the edge to make sure all of the edge has the new angle. I know the edge, at this point, should be pretty straight but the idea is to potentially put an angle on it that it doesnt already have. so is that a consideration that you need?
@instantalbums
@instantalbums Жыл бұрын
Nice video. How about for a beginner that doesn't have all this expensive equipment and wants to get flat boards. More to the point what is the best way to fill in those hairline gaps on the table top - saw dust and glue? Thanks
@Alex-xl4xe
@Alex-xl4xe Жыл бұрын
Yo that's a VR6 24V in the back, is that for the Caddy? That would be sick.
@jumperhighpd
@jumperhighpd 2 жыл бұрын
10:20 u said doodoo haha
@joneskam6922
@joneskam6922 Жыл бұрын
Is it a bad idea to use tongue and groove boards to make a larger panel?
@urwholefamilydied
@urwholefamilydied 2 жыл бұрын
2:42 always been confused by the Jointer/planer/tablesaw method. Why not just joint the face, plane the opposite face, then joint both edges? Why do you finish on the tablesaw and not just joint the final edge??
@ruiwang9924
@ruiwang9924 2 жыл бұрын
You need table saw to cut the piece to a certain width
@merriman420
@merriman420 2 жыл бұрын
Hold up! What's on the engine stand and do we get a video for that??
@jeremythompson2129
@jeremythompson2129 2 жыл бұрын
Love me some woodworking, but hold up; What's on the engine stand?!
@seanbrotherton542
@seanbrotherton542 Жыл бұрын
I only have a 6 inch bench top jointer. Am I just out of luck?
@Otto-W
@Otto-W 2 жыл бұрын
With all those dominos/dowels/biscuits it can be hard to work with the panel without cutting into and exposing one of them. My last build ended up 2" smaller because I placed a domino in the wrong spot. ☹️
@mikhailyaremkiv
@mikhailyaremkiv 4 ай бұрын
Goodness how much work is animating this? Good job guys. You earned a new subscriber.
@metabeard3788
@metabeard3788 2 жыл бұрын
I think mean "floating tenons" 😁
@guidope288
@guidope288 2 жыл бұрын
I need me a Jordan push-stick
@angelfigueroa310
@angelfigueroa310 2 жыл бұрын
Is that blue ball the conche’s cousin from lord of the flies ?
@Polemistis93
@Polemistis93 2 жыл бұрын
Dowmiscuitos Should be an industry-wide term.
@jewishmafia9801
@jewishmafia9801 2 жыл бұрын
Hehe. You said doodoo at 10:19
@karl-arnal
@karl-arnal Жыл бұрын
your jointer moves down when you press on it
@nickkramarczyk6282
@nickkramarczyk6282 2 жыл бұрын
hey nice caddy
@NAIF_FB
@NAIF_FB 2 жыл бұрын
If you had woodworking courses with more intensive 3d animations like these I would definitely be one of the first to enroll.
@Lordofthefield
@Lordofthefield 2 жыл бұрын
Watching it in 1,5x speed makes it normal speed 😆
@chengliu872
@chengliu872 2 ай бұрын
You also have to consider that many milling machines are large and very expensive. Not everyone has the luxury of a deep pocket or large woodshop.
@jellyg.8961
@jellyg.8961 2 жыл бұрын
And still there's a last thing you can do if you have some boards that aren't fully flat (coplanar) with each other: take out the orbital sander or belt sander, slap some 60-grit sandpaper and sand the hell out of it. It will be flat in no time (remember to sand with higher grit sandpaper after that). 😁
@instantalbums
@instantalbums Жыл бұрын
Yeah right. Just gotta make sure you don't accidentally sand the edges on an angle so it creates a bevel!?
@jellyg.8961
@jellyg.8961 Жыл бұрын
Yes
@jbrickey
@jbrickey 2 жыл бұрын
I think we should all start using dowmiscuitos in our videos, blogs and everyday conversations. Who knows we may make it into the Oxford English Dictionary. Hey makerspace made it so why not dowmiscuitos?!?
@JennyKampmeier
@JennyKampmeier 2 жыл бұрын
Dowmiscuitos 🤣
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