I made Part 2! 7 Things I Wish I Learned in Music School: kzbin.info/www/bejne/r3XNemufpc2Vnrc
@JasonCuriRockstar2 жыл бұрын
This is such a help i appreciate your videos so much.
@remuspierre7573 Жыл бұрын
Be blessed
@remuspierre7573 Жыл бұрын
Nahre Sol
@marieabeyewickreme5314 Жыл бұрын
Very good information for new students.
@tudormiller887 Жыл бұрын
I'm a brand new subscriber watching from London UK.❤
@jennifergriffin83942 жыл бұрын
This was incredibly validating to hear. I quit piano after my Master of Music due to low self esteem and a difficult relationship with my teacher. It took me until the last few years to reestablish a relationship with music that brought me joy rather than guilt and self-loathing. Yes to part 2.
@pianoboyo2 жыл бұрын
I hear ya. Glad you came out the other side 😉🙏
@drelnrd12 жыл бұрын
I had the same issue with a teacher and once I transitioned from this toxic teacher, my playing actually improved as well as my self esteem.
@smkh28902 жыл бұрын
@Nancy Hollo Agreed. I am not a performer, but i am making my own music, rather than studying classical piano pieces. .
@kairophilos Жыл бұрын
Hear hear! Getting the right teacher is so impt! I had a teacher that made me feel like crap before. Shook his hand, moved on and was all the better for it. 😊
@DocBree13 Жыл бұрын
Oh, Jennifer 😢 That makes me so sad. I’m really glad you were able to find your way back to your love of music, though ❤
@maoleen3 жыл бұрын
absolutely interested in a part 2 - what you said about standing up for your interests and direction without letting dissenting voices (esp influential voices) affect your self perception is spot on for me as well, having recently graduated from another conservatory performance program and started a graduate degree in another music area. thanks as always for the wonderful insights!
@NahreSol3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your comment…!!!
@amandahandelmusic2 жыл бұрын
@@NahreSol thank you for sharing these experiences, and yes I'd love to hear more about it
@bayareapianist10 ай бұрын
This was my problem when I was a teenager. My teacher usually picked the pieces without asking me weather I like them or not. Eventually I quit playing. Meanwhile I played what I enjoyed playing. Have guts to ask questions from your teacher and say yes or no or what you think is the most important thing I learned in music school. Simply speak up! And then get to your appointments at least 30min before. I also went to RCM, but didn't finished it.
@GregBackwards3 жыл бұрын
I did a Bachelor's, Master's, and most of a DMA, so I spent quite a bit of time in music school. I think if I spent more time reflecting, I could list a few more, but there is one really stand-out moment for me. During a lesson in my DMA years, I was sort of bombing everything I was playing and became visibly upset and frustrated at myself for such a poor showing. It was a bummer, because I'd honestly been practicing and putting the effort in. He stopped me and asked me what was wrong. I expressed to him that I felt like I was letting both myself and him down. I said I didn't think I was where I should be as a DMA student. He looked at me and asked me "Oh? And where should you be?". I didn't have an answer for him, since the idea was so abstract. He continued by telling me that he was no better than I was, that he just did things differently than I did. That we were both on equal footing, he just figured out the approach that worked for him. While I wish I could say there was a profound takeaway, it simply reinforced the idea that we all progress in different ways and at different paces. Similar to what you discussed about how some folks can knock out music in half the time you can.
@chrissahar20142 жыл бұрын
Well, that is similar advice that can be applied to the very end of life. My mother was on hospice and the nurse called me to inform me I should come to her house (I had been going there 4 days a week but it was my weekend for my church gig). That evening I said to my Mom I have a serious subject to broach - I asked if she was ready for the long trip (eg death), and she said she didn't know. I told you don't have to know, you will know when you are ready. I said to her too that I will not talk about this anymore. Several days later she was ready and left this Earth. So, your experience and my Mom's experience contains the same lesson: we struggle most when we question, worry, or fear not knowing where we should be when we would do best often to enjoy where we are. Or to quote Gertrude Stein "There is no there there". AS with your teacher and my Mom, we each find our way and enjoy and blossom best when we don't fear those times we seem hopelessly uncertain or apparently lost. Often if we learn to pause, rest and take good care of ourselves we will be attuned to a clearer path.
@jackprick9797 Жыл бұрын
I think you’ve hit the nail on the head with the comment of where you want to be, being very much abstract. Isn’t this what makes the arts career path so difficult? When you’re young, you set out on this journey of being a pianist, and you practice and take lessons again and again to no end, but the longer you're on the journey the more you realize you don't know exactly where the end point is. I think it's no coincidence that a lot of artists, even many famous ones, struggled with depression, loneliness and addiction. Yet, having a focal point is essential. I would say, that having a mentor in whom you can confide should be tremendously helpful if not essential as well. "Being an artist is not easy" is an understatement of grand proportions. It can be terribly difficult.
@MichaelAnthrak3 жыл бұрын
Imagine walking around campus and meeting Evgeny Kissin 😳
@noclipped0006 ай бұрын
Lol
@danthoniwooten68903 жыл бұрын
I didn’t go to Juilliard but I went to Berklee. I entered with piano but ended up studying film scoring/electronic production (and had a major focus on scoring music for games). I was really fortunate to have supportive professors on occasion and appreciated that a lot of the professors just provide the tools and encourage students to discover on their own. This video is really important because in the end of the day I feel musicians, composers, etc make their own careers based on their tastes and interests. Also, comparing skill sets are definitely not a bad idea to hone in strengths and recognize weaknesses 😊 Thank you so much for this video!
@DV-mq5fv Жыл бұрын
Depending on what person is looking for Julliard is not necessarily the best. I think Berklee has the most to offer.
@NahreSol3 жыл бұрын
Who went to music school? If you did - was it worth it? If you didn't - any regrets? P.S. Also about my *current* title calling Juilliard the "best music school." I will be the first to admit...that this is SO not the case (it really depends on how well you gel with the school) BUT it makes for an effective title for KZbin .
@zoranstankovic41333 жыл бұрын
I do regret having zero musical education growing up.
@DirkRadloff3 жыл бұрын
I did it and it helped me realize, that I could not start a career as a violin-player. Your point "comparisons to others" opened my eyes. From "star of the school orchestra" to "mediocre student" can mean a hard step.
@luxaeterna93833 жыл бұрын
I did, and the most I've learned and grown I think was in high school oddly enough. Uni in my experience was more about meeting and connecting with people who share the same interests and goals as you do. The people I was surrounded with really elevated the experience and I've made friends for life.
@markoshayes66133 жыл бұрын
im in music highschool and the realizations you were stating, e.g. being confident with my study choices and knowing what i do and don’t want to do are starting to stand out for me. really helpful video!!
@TK-mf3vx3 жыл бұрын
I didn't, and I don't/seldomly regret it. At one point in my life my piano teacher convinced me to prep and audition for the conservatory, but it didn't work out. Looking back, I think the perfectionistic and competitive atmosphere at a conservatory would have made me quite unhappy. Sometimes I try to imagine what my life would have been like as a professional musician, and I definitely still have a longing for it. But I'm happy the way things are now, having the financial security of a 'normal' job, and playing the piano as a hobby/passion for life.
@Li-yt7zh3 жыл бұрын
Nahre, you briefly touched on not wishing to pursue a career as a performing pianist because of the typical expectations & lifestyle you were able to see into. Would you consider making a video about this in detail? Many of us are extremely curious about the topic of being / becoming a concert pianist :)
@courtneythompson61792 жыл бұрын
Would like to hear this as well!
@Li-yt7zh2 жыл бұрын
@@courtneythompson6179 i have been trying to picture such a journey for myself, though the travel schedule alone could be too hectic for a classical performer, not to mention facing all the additional hurdles of our times. I imagine it could be quite brutal, tho perhaps still worth it ;P
@courtneythompson61792 жыл бұрын
@@Li-yt7zh if you haven’t you should check out the beginning of Grand Piano. It’s a thriller movie that’s free on KZbin. You get a glimpse into a pianists life. In general it’s a pretty interesting premise
@Li-yt7zh2 жыл бұрын
@@courtneythompson6179 Thanks! Looked it up and i remember watching it when it came out :) A decent thriller for sure 😃 Two others i saw were Green Book and something with Patrick Stewart in the leading pianist role but I don't remember the name.
@deborahbarry84582 жыл бұрын
I have a friend who is an opera singer. She spent her career singing in the chorus of the opera in her city (as well as teaching.) Towards the end of her career she commented on how much she enjoyed her home, her garden and hosting parties and dinners. She then said that opera singers at a certain level have to tour a lot. It isn’t glamorous and if you aren’t one of the elite performers there aren’t many perks. I hadn’t thought of that. I certainly know lots of rock musicians who tire if touring but I forgot that it is also true in the classical fields. Something to ponder…
@jobaquino47513 жыл бұрын
I love how you can apply these concepts not only to music but to a wide variety of college experiences
@nomusician47373 жыл бұрын
I think it would be super interesting to see you and Tiffany Poon discuss about this subject. She did all the pre-college things from 8 or 9, but when it came time to do college she turned down Juilliard and studied philosophy despite wanting to be a concert pianist. I think your different experiences would be fascinating!
@PassionPno2 жыл бұрын
She went on to Yale for MMus, so...
@Dogsnark Жыл бұрын
I would so love to see this happen!! I follow both Tiffany and Nahre and often compare and contrast the two, not as musicians (they are both fantastic), but as the kind of approaches they take in their videos.
@throughmyeyesx Жыл бұрын
She studied Juilliard and Colombia program together, so she still had her studies continue during uni. Then she went on Yale for master’s.
@parichehrmhrpyn9643 жыл бұрын
I would be glad to see part 2 and even more! =D
@NahreSol3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@leif10752 жыл бұрын
@@NahreSol Nahre, you slippery Musical Space Pirate! I would love to see more but also hope you can respond to my message about how you compose when you can. It would mean a lot and I tell all my music friends about you. Hope to hesr from you.
@ericallerat13423 жыл бұрын
As a piano student, this was perfectly adapted, informative and useful. Thank you very much Nahre!
@NahreSol3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@leftofcenter4 Жыл бұрын
Your great…find your own lane…and having Juliard on your resume is a great accomplishment that they can never take away from you.
@boredgrass3 жыл бұрын
I think this is instructive far beyond the study of music! Again I see also one of those rare teachers who's insightful self-reflections make their teachings always profound! If I put aside Leonard Bernstein's acting, then I see your teaching on the same level! The both of you share this unique ability to make the act of transforming feelings and thoughts into meaningful sounds, noises and rhythms so that everyone can understand it.
@NahreSol3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@billligon40053 жыл бұрын
I 'passed by' Julliard, that is to say I took evening group lessons with other adults, which i really, really enjoyed. Sadly moving away from the cold, cold North East ended that enjoyment. But although I always wanted to study the piano at Julliard as a regular student - I am eternally grateful to my mother who first gave me piano lessons and also eternally grateful to an 8th grade high school teacher (In those days piano was taught in Middle school) who gave me the gift of music and a love of the piano. In my senior years, just practicing/playing the piano makes all my pains and cares of the day just disappear. Thank you for your insight into what it is like to study at Julliard.
@jeffb25503 жыл бұрын
I would very much like to see a part two to this, thank you! As someone who wanted to go to music school but did not (long story from a long time ago), I find this very interesting and informative.
@NahreSol3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!! I appreciate the feedback!!
@vishwajeetbabbar7622 Жыл бұрын
@@NahreSol hi i just wamted to ask you about what do you suggest for a sound designer, background composer for films and a Trinity grade 5 pianist? Bcoz im not too good in piano but i'v seen you since last 1.5 yrs and i believe you are one of the top tier pianist on youtube. Your modification of simple pieces like Happy Birthday in different Classical periods tells about your skills. I did work in few feature films in bollywood and i am planning to learn more so i need some advice. If possible share me your mail so that i can send you some of my work. Pls help!😅
@jolly77282 жыл бұрын
This video is jam-packed with useful information! I knew students who would purposefully wake up in the middle of the night in search of a piano on campus. When they were still tired and hungry, they'd play a Chopin polonaise or a Bach prelude and fugue without warming up. This was done in order to teach themselves how to work effectively in less-than-ideal circumstances. As a result, they never felt nervous on stage and always gave it their all. This was, in fact, my experience.
@guyb70053 жыл бұрын
I studied architecture and the parallels (no pun intended) to what you describe as your experience are incredible! Critiques, peer influences, role models, discovering your own language... I learned early what were my peak hours to study, to craft - sadly those were 8:30pm to 5am, which affects class attendance, relationships with tutors. You learn as much about yourself as you do the material (stage fright affected many presenting their designs). You seem to have hit your stride early since graduating - I always appreciate and enjoy your videos!
@fabiogiulianostella4937 Жыл бұрын
aS I take it. Your best teaching is your smiling attitude. playing, learning to play takes a lot of pressure. Having the ability and attitude to put some distance from pressure, make the best inner resources spread out. I love your smiling, that's clear.
@BluegillGreg2 жыл бұрын
A part 2 would be great, thanks. Very good video. I didn't go to music school as such, but I did take music classes at university. Over the years I became a full time musician because people kept recruiting me to perform, teach, and to found new programs, and it wound up paying better than my other work. I also like having my own orchestras. My weak reading from lack of schooling costs me a lot of extra time working rhythms out at home. I can't so much say I regret not having the music school background, as I'm getting it now. At 63 years old I'm studying ear training and sight singing at Juilliard at night. That Ta and Clap is very helpful. I appreciate it because it's immediately useful at work. One thing I really like about Juilliard is that you can be very chill and friendly while not needing hide your light under a bushel. Of course I'm too old too care too much about showing my vulnerabilities. In fact I think that's a lot of what we need to do in order to develop and to communicate.
@rebekahwebster31043 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I just graduated with a degree in music with piano and working toward submitting my application for grad school. Hearing you talk about the nerves involved with music made you seem so much more relatable than some pianists who are so good and likable even but who seem to have no weaknesses.
@nootherchance78193 жыл бұрын
Not sure how relevant this is to sports. But, I found that your advice applies almost identically to athletes. All the lessons you've discovered were similar to what I have found in myself as an athlete. Just pure coincidence I suppose lol? Thanks a bunch for sharing wisdom!
@NahreSol3 жыл бұрын
Wow so interesting! Thank you!!
@martianmurray3 жыл бұрын
Musicians, athletes, they’re both performers so it seems logical to me to be similar in preparation. Granted sports are usually more physically demanding, unless you play like pool or darts, but still they’re all intricate skills that take time to develop and be able to perform in front of an audience.
@TK-mf3vx3 жыл бұрын
My old piano teacher compared professional musicianship to professional sports all the time. There are many parallels. In order to reach the top you have to be passionate (if not obsessed), willing to make sacrifices socially and often financially (in case of sports also culinary :P), able to perform under high pressure. 'Good enough' doesn't exist in both worlds, you need intrinsic motivation to always be better than yourself yesterday, and your competition today. If you don't aim for the absolute top then all of this applies to a somewhat lesser extent I guess. Oh, and talent helps a great deal of course.
@table27903 жыл бұрын
Same! Not a musician Or a athlete lol but I feel like some of her advice is even applicable to like students doing academic studies-> if you translate some of the advice into how it would look like as a student.
@samanthab66423 жыл бұрын
@@NahreSol don greene.
@leonardfu95533 жыл бұрын
The last point is so very important. Just like every other "industry", the music business requires a certain willingness to compromise your integrity to fit the mold. It's not about being good enough, but simply about sometimes wanting to forge your own path, even if that might be even harder (financially and endurance wise). Thank you Nahre for your personal experience and for leading by example! I might add one more point which is - build your community! Juilliard, maybe even more than many other music schools, can feel very competitive and isolating. Be bold, reach out, collaborate, make friends, understand that that's not "wasted" time, but actually crucial for a fulfilling life in music - you're not in school to only become a soloist even if that is your dream. Social networks are the bread and butter of having work in the future.
@fzxfzxfzx3 жыл бұрын
I want to succeed but I need connections and I'm far too socially anxious to make the steps often I try to but it's really hard
@choimdachoim9491 Жыл бұрын
At the end of my fourth year in college as a Music Composer major with a teaching credential, I received an F for the semester in three classes taught by the same professor whom I had inadvertently angered. I realized I didn't fit into the world I was headed for. Since then I have been deliberately been unlearning all I had been taught and made a great living non-musically for 34 years. I still write and record almost daily but feel lucky I've had no pressure to perform or learn pieces. I guess what I'm trying to add to your 7 lessons is that sometimes it's good to give up, to quit. Music has been my life since I was born but making it a career would have made it a job instead of a pleasure.
@LorenzoNW3 жыл бұрын
I think the journey is similar for all artists. I went through an extremely demanding graphics arts program. The dream job for everyone was to work for a high-end graphic design studio. But I later saw that what appeared to be a glamorous career was in reality a lot of stress with less room for creativity than what one might expect. And now I’m finally applying my aesthetic skills and life experience in a unique business model that I’m creating. Everyone needs to find their own path. And the ones who don’t fit into the neat cookie-cutter mold often experience the greatest challenges and darkest nights. But if one doesn’t give up, those unique paths can be the most rewarding.
@prmft94123 Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Nahre! I am so glad to hear you say you've followed your own path . . . that of a concert pianist is so difficult, lonely and not a great way to live one's life (not that I've experienced it . . . but, for example, Yuja Wang's jet lag must have jet lag, and one hotel room ends up looking like another, and accolades from hoards must become indistinguishable one from the other. You are truly living a creative, self directed life. I so admire you. And send you love.
@AZmom603 жыл бұрын
My favorite & fastest-progressing student asks a lot of questions. As a teacher, I love it!
@cjkenney3 жыл бұрын
The whole thing about comparing yourself to others hit home: i started doing this when practicing marimba after someone more along in their studies, or of a similar height, or even someone of a different height would leave the practice room. Trying to play on their setup for a few minutes really taught me so much invaluable information about posture and my own preferences. Comparisons don’t always have to have feelings attached to them. Sometimes the difference or likeness in something between two people can offer a lot of objective information you can draw upon.
@mcbarbs4 ай бұрын
A rare treat to listen to not just the solid, smart content, but also the way it's presented in such a congenial and straightforward way. Grateful to have access to this series!
@ManocroRecktt3 жыл бұрын
PART 2 PLEASEEE!!! I love this topic and I love how you express yourself
@NahreSol3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@scotthernandez29812 жыл бұрын
Thank you! My son just started at a top 15 university for pre-med and is under incredible pressure....all self-imposed. I sent him your link in hopes that it helps him navigate the pre-med pressures and most of all, find out what HE wants to do....not what he thinks WE want him to do. You are so inspiring!!! Lots of good life lessons here :-)
@KlausGehrmann2 жыл бұрын
You are both an accomplished musician and a great communicator, not to speak of the dedication you show for making these videos. Excellent work Nahre, thank you for sharing your insights!
@ahnmichael14842 жыл бұрын
It is so wild to hear the various things you've struggled with - my mind feels in disbelief. I know that you are a person who can make mistakes + needs time to learn just like me, but so much of what you do is so compellingly artful that it just seems "natural". Which, as someone who also spends a lot of time learning things others see as "talent" (such as learning other languages, or programming, etc), I know is false; your labor and discipline are clear!
@BrunoADuenas3 жыл бұрын
Yes, a Part 2 would be awesome. Even tho I'm a late starter, I'm currently in love with music studies (also a classical pianist) and planning my way to a music school. These videos you upload give so much clarity regarding that field and it always help to clear the path for those with similar goals. I'm extremely thankful for this content and for a exceptional musician like yourself to share your wonderful insights and lessons. You are an inspiration to me!
@TheIndependentPianist3 жыл бұрын
I particularly liked your comment on being able to decide what you really want and do not want. I have had a very similar kind of experience in my life-from my perspective, the main drawback of a conservatory environment was that alternative ways of making a life in music were not valued very highly, and I thought that most students weren't focused on what was really important: making music that was meaningful to them, and finding an audience to share that music with. There was way too much focus on perfectionism, succeeding in competitions, trying to impress people-all ways of thinking that really poison true musical development in my opinion. I also had teachers (and even friends) who had very definite ideas about what my career path should look like, and in the end I had to realize that I was the only one who could tell what was right for me! Once I got out of school for the last time, it was extraordinary how much pleasure I could take from playing music for people who just wanted to hear this music-not necessarily experts, critics, or other musicians, but just people for whom music is a vital source of beauty and nourishment in their lives. It is a very liberating feeling! Also I discovered that I could be the final arbiter of what my music should sound like, and how I should go about making it. So anyway-it was worth it going to music school in the final analysis. Even just from the perspective of all the people I met and connections I made, that already made it very worth it. However that doesn't change the fact that there is a lot of waste and poor teaching that does happen in these institutions at times (along with some very good teaching of course). Sometimes it saddens me to think that some unique talents might be stifled in their formative stages because they don't "fit the mold." Thanks for making this video! It was really interesting and resonated with me strongly.
@TheIndependentPianist3 жыл бұрын
(Also I would be very interested in seeing a part 2)
@BEATTECHN1QUE2 жыл бұрын
I love how transferable these tips/ skills are. Thank you Nahre!
@IreneYam19 ай бұрын
It's so brave to share your story. I've admired musicians and learned so much from your experiences. I'm happy you found and learned so much during your time at Julliard! Thank you Nahre!
@ezNotez3 жыл бұрын
Yes part 2 please...thanks Nahre you make the best videos!
@NahreSol3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!!
@AM-pl2pt Жыл бұрын
I am not a professional musician and this young lady makes very valid points. The things she talks about can be applied all types of environments. It took me a lifetime to finally understand a lot of these things. I am a amateur musician and play for the walker, wheel chair, and Gerry-chair set at rehab facilities. I use a lot of what she spoke about.
@grigorisgrigoriou2 жыл бұрын
I have always been saying that the *single* best thing a conservatory helps you realize is that no amount of vocational training *alone* can make you a musician. You have to take the time to discover and understand yourself *in relation to music* in order to become one. Nice video!
@rogeralleyne92573 жыл бұрын
Great video lesson 👍👍👍 I'd love to see a part 2🙏👍🙏
@skate_oasis2 жыл бұрын
100% interested in a part 2. I almost went to music school right out of high school and now as a passionate 35 year old musician I’m glad I didn’t. I think I would have burned out
@andybuhr14746 ай бұрын
Yes would like to hear a part two… especially about coming to terms with teacher’s opinions, self assessments about what you knew was right for you, and your grit to stick with it for four years ~ Andy
@GG-zx8gf3 жыл бұрын
Part 2 please! I feel like I relate to you so much because I'm also a classical pianist but I like composing for different intruments and in different styles (although it's something i've been doing on my own). Like you said I don't want to be the traditional pianist either and I find myself in-between piano performance and composing... I would love to hear more about your transition from classical piano to composition/harmony while studying at Juilliard. Btw I'm 17, applying at Juilliard and I love your videos💕
@yeonjoonyoon3 жыл бұрын
Hi Nahre, thanks for your inspiring insights! They have certainly been one of the few gateways that granted me courage to pursue my autonomy as a musician. As a Juilliard graduate myself, especially at a young age, that double edged sword called Juilliard seems to have done me more harm than good, but it’s given me room to process how to turn that into a lesson for betterment, rather than something to be regretful about. (I don’t blame the school for it, because my attention and will had been in rather close-minded things back then) Keep on inspiring, and I look forward to more of your creative work! :)
@jeremiemartineau25953 жыл бұрын
I wish I had seen this video before my bachelor, would’ve helped immensely haha!! Part 2 would be amazing 😁
@NahreSol3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@vabelozorov3 жыл бұрын
Joining “I want the part 2” group. It would be interesting to hear about dealing with performance anxiety/fear. Or even how to improve your own focus in uncomfortable surroundings
@jaes75003 жыл бұрын
That was in interesting point you made at 7:47. I had a similar experience with the classical guitar, but came to a different conclusion. Years ago I was what I thought was a significantly talented classical guitar player. Was around 18 at the time and considering music school. When to a guitar camp and got absolutely humbled. People with less time playing than I doing more advanced things and learning new things faster. I actually decided that the joy of guitar was not worth the far larger time investment I would have to make to get to the same place the others at music school would have been at and so kept guitar as a hobby. I give you much credit for being willing to deal with the "less talent" lack of a better term issue and pushing through. Great video. Thanks. for making it.
@NahreSol3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your experience as well!!
@superblondeDotOrg3 жыл бұрын
Performance skill is not equal to a musician's worth. Plenty of "all so superior" jazz musicians for example whose music is considered terrible by 9 out of 10 people and they can't make any mark on the broader listening audience with their excessively noodling music. Better to have good taste in melody than "advAnCEd plAyING SKillZ"
@lorenzovilla9098 ай бұрын
I totally agree with many points in this video, especially the 7th one! I’m a classical guitarist, graduated in classical music and with a master in Contemporary music. In the last years of my Conservatory I was feeling that the “classical world” wasn’t for me but for some reason you have that kind of voice/pressure inside that tell you that you cannot give up or change trajectory. Instead it's not true!! I really appreciate your words because it's crucial for us to feel free to pursue what truly resonates with us as musicians.
@leslieackerman4189 Жыл бұрын
Certainly not timid, you are loquacious and superbly articulate. Precious, in fact. Very interesting and well produced.
@charlesg.12073 жыл бұрын
Part 2 please. Great to hear these stories and feedback. Great video.
@NahreSol3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@paullau38352 жыл бұрын
You are simply amazing as a musician. You communicate so well that you can be the best music teacher/lecturer and students will love you for that. Not just that, with your talent and great achievements you can venture into any profession you feel like - similar to an Olympic gold medallist - the world is your oyster.
@Joel_Hoo3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video! I'm currently in music school at the moment, and while watching this video, I can see myself slowly learning these lessons as well!
@NahreSol3 жыл бұрын
Really cool to hear, thank you!!
@Li-yt7zh3 жыл бұрын
Please share your experience, any big differences? like is the student atmosphere competitive in the isolating sense, are there opportunities to collaborate, how does it compare to self-study? :)
@Joel_Hoo3 жыл бұрын
@@Li-yt7zh I'm a music composition major, so I feel like there have been more opportunities to collaborate through connections in the music school. I've met a lot of people who play instruments that I don't whom I can reference and ask questions for my compositions related to their instruments. Because of this, I feel like I've had less pressure to be competitive than performance majors because collaboration is an integral part of my work. If I had gone the route of self-study rather than music school, I wouldn't have been able to meet people integral to my growth as a composer. Therefore, in this context, I feel like music school is the better option.
@Li-yt7zh3 жыл бұрын
@@Joel_Hoo Thanks for the input ;) I'm interested in both. It makes some sense that performance would be more competitive & i wish the programs were designed to alleviate some of this pressure once a student got accepted into the course and is motivated to maintain their expected level of work. I think some schools are very willing to play up their program exclusivity at the detriment of their students development :/
@rogeroconnor66142 жыл бұрын
I'm speechless... I started watching the video out of curiosity and ended up watching the whole thing!
@jeffMinnesota952 Жыл бұрын
always wonderful to see you, you are so smart, thoughtful, articulate, you glow. yes to part 2 and more...
@eduardoszuber12 жыл бұрын
Yes, part 2 please 🙏 Thank you 😊
@CVerse3 жыл бұрын
This is so curious to see from an outsider perspective. I originally was going to be a music composition major until I switched to CGI animation instead. I still have that love for music and do violin performances often, as well as writing music on the side until I can get it well enough to put my music into my short films. So watching your content just gives me inspiration as to how my abilities as a multitalented artist can be expanded
@sherrajah2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this, very illuminating on your journey. Yes, part 2 would be good. Your chat gave a very honest candid flavor of your musical journey, and that itself was worth hearing. Thank you once again.
@gideoncheung87313 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a part 2 of this! The one thing I guess I'm bummed seeing this and other similar type of videos recently was how I did not have them before I entered college or during my freshman year (or my ego as a high school student was too big for me to listen to 'experts' and stuff then, which too, is sadly true), as it would have helped me accept my shortcomings and given me lots more courage to explore the different options. There's not much you can do (regarding undergraduate studies) when you're a year from graduation, after all:/ I guess I'm still really grateful for these types of content, though, for the people who are going into music schools or are weighing and considering these things, because this is so much insight packed into 12 minutes. Love your vids and thanks for the video!
@viennawoodscarnot2 жыл бұрын
I’m an engineer and I have played piano since I was four. Total amateur but I’d like to say: what ever Nahre said not only applies to studying at conservatory but also in other settings. A lot of this is also important skills/lessons I picked up from my PhD. Would love to hear part two and more from Nahre!!
@TechnoReverseChannel2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic Video! I would love to see a part 2. I am currently a French horn undergraduate looking to transfer to larger conservatories such as Julliard, Curtis, and Colburn. This information was very helpful. Thank you very much for the insight!
@jazzfan74913 жыл бұрын
What a healthy and mature attitude you have -- and as you explain here, such an attitude is hard won. It's obvious from your videos you love all kinds of music, from bossa nova to Kpop to blues, and those wide ranging interests, based on my view as, admittedly, an observer and listener and not a performer, don't sit well in the classical music world these days. Seems to me that classical music has become overly obsessed with technical ability and extreme youth. It's not really about a love of music -- not primarily anyway -- but more about what elements are especially marketable. (In other words: "Watch the remarkable child play scales really fast!") As in many areas of life these days, you kind of have to choose between being extremely successful and very warped, or being human and facing lots of ups and downs and uncertainty. Luckily for us, KZbin gives you the chance to share your unique thoughts and outlook. Take that, prodigies. 🤓
@Joeh1154 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate this post and it brought back memories of my past studies. I play the Double Bass and I received my Bachelors degree at Queens College in the early 1980's and I had the wonderful opportunity to study with a former member of the Cleveland Orchestra and a former member of the NY Philharmonic. I ultimately dropped out of the Masters program as I needed to make some money to survive. The one thing nobody suggested to me (which might seem obvious) was, join the Musicians Union. In NYC that is local 802. I might have had some issues with my self esteem as I thought I was a decent player but in contrast to my teachers, I thought man, are they talented and could I ever get to a similar level. I suppose not everyone can get a job with a major orchestra, but in NYC there is always the Broadway pit. One of my teachers suggested that I apply for Julliard but I was on my own and I didn't think I could afford the tuition. Perhaps the fact he made the suggest was, he thought I was good enough to audition but I thought otherwise. So now in my late 60's having played every club, restaurant and dive in NYC and perhaps it could have gone another way. I have also performed as a working professional at Carnegie Hall, Symphony Space, Alice Tully Hall and Merkin Hall and I have wonderful memories of my College years and all the Orchestral literature I was a part of performing. Music is a difficult master and there are no promises. Best to all who study and my one suggestion, Join the local Musicians union in your area.
@theploeg2 жыл бұрын
Part two please! Never went to school but you are one of my best teachers. Many thanks.
@wolfganglauth40153 жыл бұрын
Part 2 please! I have never went to or considered music school but this was fascinating!
@navidhendrix3 жыл бұрын
I think that you discovering that you did not want to be a traditional concert Pianist and having the COURAGE to express that feeling to your teacher was the most important lesson you learnt at music school. That gave you the avenue for you to discover and express yourself.
@babawawayoyo2 жыл бұрын
You’re so awesome. You’re so humble and open about your experiences and your brilliance - it’s really inspiring. 🙏
@dsds516212 жыл бұрын
Nahre, I'm about to start some intensive schoolwork again. While it's not in music, I have a feeling your lessons will be equally valuable there. Many thanks for the truly wonderful content!
@gothamelliott2 жыл бұрын
Nahre, this was absolutely wonderful! Everything you said resonated with me. My school was the Conservatoire de Geneve (Switzerland) which I hold in the highest esteem. I don't believe I have ever called it the "best music school", but I actually could. HA! I wish you the very, very best, and hope you find fulfillment in everything life brings you! Elliott in Manhattan
@Highcastle_of_Tone3 жыл бұрын
Great advice, even for someone considerably older and mostly pursuing music for personal fulfillment. I'd love to see a Part II.
@yanikucho2 жыл бұрын
wished i could have had that kinda of insight in 1995 when youtube didn't exist. part 2 totally welcomed and is necessary. thanks
@jaspercays32453 жыл бұрын
PART2 2 pleasee I'm currently at a music school that is not vert prestigious & listening to students at other colleges is very informative and intersting love your videos!
@NahreSol3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@Davydd23 жыл бұрын
Yes please for a part 2
@mitchellcox90022 жыл бұрын
Good to hear your comments. There is not much straight, real talk about what to expect when attending music school…..or, indeed, how to make a living afterward. I was distressed to hear how prevalent repetitive stress injuries still are. My wife Candace is an outstanding Alexander technique teacher who has worked with countless musicians (I’m a pianist). I have seen her help pianists both work through an injury when the doctor says just don’t play, as well as help tight players (most of us in some way) avoid injury as well as connect with themselves and, therefore, the audience. Nice to hear your honest delivery.
@freedomofthebourgeois2 жыл бұрын
Definitely a part two would be great to watch, so much value from part one, thank you :)
@Lcelenza142 жыл бұрын
Part 2 part 2 !! Love your sharing, thanks as always Nahre!!
@lukeholdsworth65063 жыл бұрын
Super helpful! Yes! Part 2 please!
@LasseHuhtala3 жыл бұрын
You went through that, and you are still a humble, sweet person. ☺
@eldergeektromeo98684 ай бұрын
Yes! Love to hear part two! Thank you, Nahre!
@flonzaley60922 жыл бұрын
A very wise and useful video! More please - especially concerning how you found your own way of working, composing, playing, and how to break down the barriers between different 'departments' of learning: this last is one of your most remarkable achievements.
@margaretkeefe2567 Жыл бұрын
Hello Nahre, I’m 78 and returned to playing violin in a community orchestra after 50 years not playing, but in the interim I sang all my years as an avocation (opera, choral work). So I share a bit of my story to say that your thoughts about your experience in music school and music in general vibrate with me despite our very different music worlds. You have a wisdom beyond your years and a generosity for sharing your vulnerabilities that i believe makes you a natural at composition, your true destiny. Keep flying. I’m gonna try and find some of your compositions now. I hope I do. Meanwhile thank you for being you,
@colinrussell35923 жыл бұрын
I’d love to see a part 2, I really like this video because it’s valuable to me even though I’m working in other areas of music. Valuable lessons in life! I like what you said about comparing yourself to others and about how you were able to get past what one of your teachers thought about your decisions. Also just being in my early 20s this info feels really valuable to me.
@deniscarranza41432 жыл бұрын
I applying to three music schools (medium prestige, I’d say), and knowing what goes on in high caliber schools will certainly help me prepare for what’s ahead. Can’t wait for more videos on this subject!
@andresgunther3 жыл бұрын
I would be interested in a part two! I went to music school, 40 years ago (never regretted it, btw) - I am now retired as musician. But I still have great interest in teacher-student relationship, modern methods and techniques, as well as young people's mindset. Interestingly, of the two most original (in a good sense) pianists I know, one is a drop-out, and the other never went to music school in his whole life.
@kairophilos Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this vulnerable sharing. I'm learning stand up for myself with regards to my choices and approach to my own budding music career.
@KP-xl6rs3 жыл бұрын
One thing that I learned (or had to unlearn) at music school was to like the music that you like. I know this seems kind of obvious, but there were times when studying music history or even just talking to my professors about repertoire, that I felt a certain pressure to consume myself with that specific type of music. In other words, if I wasn't listening to classical music, or jazz charts, or even analyzing the theory of the music I was listening to, then I wasn't being a good music student. If I listened to pop music, then I am doing myself a disservice because pop music isn't "real" music. It wasn't necessarily something my professors explicitly said to me, but I did feel like if I talked about something other than the music that I was learning at school, then I'm not worthy of my teacher's attention (I had a lot going on in my mind). In the end, I started to do more of the things that I wanted to do and became the musician that I wanted to be. Loved your video. 10/10 super relatable.
@christinachampion36763 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Love your insights. You're amazing. You go girl!
@NahreSol3 жыл бұрын
Thank you !!
@russkalen23373 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. My life path took me away from music for a career that would make more money. I have been curious about what I might have missed by not committing to music in my college years. Your 7 points are all things I am discovering about my own relationship with music now that I am retired and able to be more involved in music making. You've helped me realize that I haven't missed anything (other than years of practice) and that I can choose to be as involved or not with a particular aspect of music as I want. Thanks again!
@stuartdryer13523 жыл бұрын
Yes. A part 2 please!!!!
@skiddrowe9104 Жыл бұрын
CONGRATS!!! YOU'VE CERTAINLY "PAID YUR DUES" IN PREPARING FOR YOUR CAREER OF "DO, "RE, MI."
@nixonkutz30182 жыл бұрын
Wonderfully honest. I think it's just another sign of how you've progressed as a musician/performer even since I've been following you on KZbin.
@larrybear23822 жыл бұрын
The community service duty must have been very rewarding. Especially in a nursing home. Those seniors probably just loved it. They may not be able to go to a concert, so having an artist to come and play for them would be a special treat.
@sandgaijin2 жыл бұрын
I'm sure I'm not the only one that majored in music that will be commenting. I struggled SO MUCH as an undergrad trying to structure my social and academic schedule. I'd go to my lessons at my professor's house/studio and never be prepared and never asking questions for those same reasons as you. I wish I could go back and do it all over again knowing what I know now.
@alkanista2 жыл бұрын
That thing about trying to get to your piano lesson while half-asleep really struck home with me. I had terrible problems with that kind of thing in university, and it was only much much later in life that I found out that I probably have a genetic sleep disorder that makes me into a night owl. One music history class was nearly impossible, because of the timing of breakfast in my dorm and the need to get from one end of a large campus to the other end for the class, which had a professor who LOCKED THE DOOR so late-comers couldn't get in. It is decades later, and I am still angry about that situation!!
@lifetunes7674 ай бұрын
As someone who has dreamt of going to Julliard this is awesome!!!! I'd love to see a Part 2
@aleksandartashev4173 жыл бұрын
Part 2 please 😀 keep up the good work 😊
@MonkeyBars13 жыл бұрын
Thanks Nahre looking forward to part 2
@NahreSol3 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
@elijahn13 жыл бұрын
this is life feedback. it could apply to anything. universal truths. i make my living in public doing something else but i also used to be in the actual music business. in the end you are sharing your wisdom around allowing yourself to be influenced by others while still being yourself. i am excited for a part 2
@RadostinaGyaurova8 ай бұрын
Great content and sharing, thank you! Being a hotel pianist (even not graduated from my study as I had to start working early) had been most of the time a lonely journey. Journey in which self-taught wasn't enough to just be good and feel good about what I do. Recently I am discovering KZbin videos like yours, that are so helpful and much more worth it, than just the next hour of practicing random piece. Thanks again!
@costasyiannourakos69633 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your honest and sincere approach to the topic. I think it will help many new students to find themselves. Reading behind the lines from all their experiences.