7 Ways the BRAND NEW Sonos Port is better than the Sonos Connect!

[@sloebone7399]

7 big upgrades! 1. Same size but shorter - helps If for some reason you need 3 of them. 2. More processing power for stuff it doesn’t do yet 3. 10 more decibels for people who need 10 more decibels. 4. Trigger function for those who find a power button too taxing. 5. Voice control, all your need is a product from another company that does voice control. 6.... where’s six? 7. I guess they were counting black as an update? Ok, it’s black.

[@sarabear1238]

We had a 1st gen Echo in our master bathroom for listening to music in the morning kzbin.infoUgkxABghAEkaIDGZfHRBH3D3rBrlraNmnC71 and while in the shower. I didn't realize how tinny and awful the sound output on the original Echo was until we replaced it with the Studio. It was a sonic upgrade far beyond what I was expecting. Just wow. I love it because it's like having speakers IN the shower. My friend likes it because the music is so loud that she can no longer hear me singing. So that's a win-win.

[@AudioAdvice]

They certainly are! Thanks for watching.

[@ingenfestbrems]

4:35 is when he’s stop talking about Sonos God like amazingnes

[@squareempire]

He never really stops

[@ingenfestbrems]

Pete he’s probably sponsored and totally bias.

[@eWhizz]

It feels like he is shouting at you too

[@hieroglyph321]

Hahahahahha thanks ...

[@willy_g27]

Should've looked at the comments for this.

[@PlasticSoulTribute]

Why does everyone on KZbin love to hear themselves talk? 5.5 minutes before he says anything. This video could have been 2 minutes long...

[@TheJTcreate]

Because, in truth, the SONOS PORT is really not any significant upgrade to the SONOS Connect, but they still need to bullshit you into justifying why they are charging more than $100+ for it over the Connect. When a manufacture only sites size and color as a unit's primary upgrade, that means nothing significant has changed. Anyone can hack the Connect and add a 12v trigger or relay. Downsizing and reducing heat means they removed the internal AC/DC power board and gave you a separate power AC adapter instead. It does make the unit more versatile, but it also decreases complexity and manufacturing costs.

[@HauIchDich]

Lol I skipped straight to minute 5.5

[@scientificaudiophile]

I love the point at 3:50 that SONOS is great because they rarely break, then 56 days after they post the video, SONOS says "We're going to break every CONNECT". Not Audio Advice's fault, but I'd drop them if I was the owner of Audio Advice and start working with Yamaha's MusicCast, Denon's HEOS or B&W. So you don't have to listen to 8 minutes to find out 7 improvements, they are as follows: 1. It's smaller 2. It's black 3. More processing power (the excuse SONOS is using to keep from updating any CONNECTS - as opposed to simply creating a bridge component that can continue use the older CONNECTS in a master -slave relationship) 4. A 10db improvement in S/N (signal to noise ratio) - basically the old CONNECTS were sold as audiophile quality actually weren't. 5. Added a trigger, so the SONOS can automatically turn on an external AMP if it has a trigger input. Nothing CONTROL4 couldn't do without a trigger). 6. Support for airplay 2 - basically if someone doesn't want to use SONOS and instead just use their iPhone, they can do it through SONOS. 7. He said something about voice control, but the PORT doesn't directly have a mic, you need an Amazon Echo or other device, which also worked with the CONNECT, so not sure if I'm missing the 7th way it is better. 8. He forgot to mention the PORT costs $450 while the CONNECT cost $350.

[@TheJTcreate]

I was basically saying the same thing. 1: Its Smaller? They removed the internal AC/CD rectifier board and gave you a AC/DC power adapter instead. That actually makes the unit cheaper and less complex. 1A: Its Cooler? Well? That's what happens when you remove the internal AC/DC rectifier board. Duh! LMAO! 2: Color? Yup black paint costs a more than white paint. 3: Processing? Any processor/memory upgrade today will be a cheaper improvement to what was built 3 years ago. 4: 10db improvement in S/N? (You nailed that already!) 5: 12v Trigger? Hackers hacked the SONOS connect and found it easy to add. That means no considerable re-design necessary to add it. 6: Support for Airplay 2? Nothing a change in Software can't handle. Might need a memory increase....Like I said, any upgrade today is cheaper than tech 3 years ago. 7: Voice control? That has to do with the cloud (How SONOS servers interact with AMAZON online), not the hardware. So I see nothing here as well. 8: How convenient!

[@Piano-rk8os]

Before that video I was considering buying this device to replace the connect ... Now I will definitely go with another brand. Thanks for helping to avoid that mistake ;-)

[@gjhunter9326]

"Without further delay" he says at 4:30, then finally gets into the differences. C'mon guys! 1. Size- smaller size uses 1U in an equipment rack 2. Color- comes in black 3. More powerful processor 4. 10db S/N improvement 5.12V trigger for external power amp 6. Voice compatible- Google, Alexa and HomeKit (not sure if it really controls Sonos or not) 7. Airplay 2 The only thing that really is a pretty big deal for the new "Connect" IMHO is the 12V trigger and for some the Airplay 2 feature for Bluetooth streaming directly an iOS device. The voice compatibility could be if that is how you use the "connect". You lose optical out for external DAC, but at least still have a coax and of course the legacy products app incompatibility issue. All an all a nice, but already expensive unit that is now even more so for what mostly amounts to cosmetic changes and a few tweaks. High res capability (24/192 at a minimum) with more digital output options for connecting to more more capable DACs, direct voice enabling perhaps and a direct sub output would have been nice for the upgrade price and remain on my wish list.

[@MattWhittingham]

Seriously. Takes 5 mins talking about Connect before getting to the actual comparison

[@ryanschipp8513]

The different features are just not worth the price increase. You forgot to mention how they eliminated the optical out and went for a coaxial digital out. The 10 decibel increase is not going to be Audible.

[@therealchickentender]

No no no - but it's BLACK! lol

[@sloebone7399]

My Connect is loud enough already.

[@anhy10ful]

It's a no go if it still can't stream hi-res (24bit/192kHz)

[@ronniefranks4351]

I originally bought a Sonos Connect along with their expensive ($200, I think) stand alone controller (which was wonderful). I loved the system and used it for a few years. Then, Sonos decided to no longer sell the separate controller. That’s okay but they also no longer offered the dedicated replacement battery! Now I have an expensive controller I can’t source a battery for. Strike one. Today, I receive an email stating my system won’t be supported after May and will eventually fade into oblivion! Strike two. Generally, Sonos builds a decent product but there’s no doubt they’re overpriced and don’t support high resolutions. Strike three. I’m done with Sonos.

[@therealchickentender]

This is exactly why I'm here as well. A garbage situation.

[@theeclecticphotographerajr5372]

So you need one connect or port for each zone you want to have? Pool, bedroom, kitchen you would need three? Is that to be able to listen to different songs at the same time? Can’t you run the three rooms as long as it’s the same song? How would you control the volume in each room?

[@just-a-yt-guy]

The Sonos Port has worse connectivity than the outgoing connect. It is way overproiced if you compare it with the HEOS Link HS2 (less than £300) which has much better connectivity as well. £400 just to allow you to connect to a HiFi/audio system is mad. The Echo Link allows you do do it for £25. This product alone (Port) is making me consider whether I should drop Sonos.

[@jhingbangayan762]

My cousin is an engineer at Sonos. Honestly, I wasn't familiar with Sonos, kinda heard it in early 2010's until he told me he work for Sonos😁. I only new Pioneer, Bose, SunSui, Sony hahahaha and some other old famous brands😁

[@jonathan9506]

Why should I use a trigger to an AV Receiver? The Sonos Speaker are active Speaker. All I need is a Connect or Port, am I wrong?

[@samjohnson1912]

I bought a sonos connect amp gen 2 by mistake, will it still work as a connect ?

[@sharpsbattle]

I received a notification today that Sonos will no longer be supporting or software updating the Connect. They are offering a 30% discount on the Port if you trade in your Connect. I didn't really want to spend the money, but that's actually a pretty good deal.

[@AudioAdvice]

Hey Jade, that is true. Feel free to chat in on our site and we can set up the trade-in for you!

[@ericramirez3663]

So can I use this connect to add to my 5.1 sonos system already I have 2 play ones 1 playbar and sonos sub Looking to get 1 more subwoofer and 2 definitive technology towers

[@california_clarky]

I think you will find that it will still work perfectly well - you will still get security updates all you wont get is new enhancements - and if you take the 30% discount you can buy anything in their range and still keep your legacy equipment

[@taylorrasmus1905]

So cool! Now I can control my Sonos with my Amazon Dot!!

[@sloebone7399]

And it’ll only cost you ten times the price is the dot to do it!

[@NickRobbMusic]

You can control the sonos connect with Amazon echo

[@G82Balive]

At $449 I would rather buy a Bluesound Player and get MQA quality.

[@kenwuk]

Still no support for anything higher than 16bit. I took my Connect out of the system and thought I might replace it with the Port .. if the Port offered Hi Rez. It looks like I’m going to go for an Auralic Vega, I think. Despite the little tweaks here and there, Sonos is rapidly being left behind by other manufacturers who are fully onboard with Hi Res. So long, Sonos 😢

[@DougEvans]

Agreed. Sonos is actually pretty poor sounding when compared to even the Yamaha WXC50. But w/o getting into the Auralic series of streamers, the Auralic Aires mini was my last streamer until it was lost in a move. I'll be upgrading to the Volumio Primo which sounds fantastic for the price point. Many offerings out there that beat Sonos.

[@kenwuk]

Doug Evans I agree. Sonos have been too busy turning their brand into AV products and away from Hi Fi 😢

[@DougEvans]

@@kenwuk Indeed, it's a shame they can't do both. So many Hi Fi manufacturers went this route only to lose their way and degrade audio quality and saturate the department store "Hi Fi" sections with average equipment. Sonos could have made this streamer a Tidal, Qobuz, FLAC file, etc capable streamer with ease but just settled.

[@kenwuk]

Very true, Doug. You’re hitting all my main points about why I’m so disappointed in Sonos. Like minds, Sir 😎

[@ZeroCarestate]

I’ve already ranted about the state of Sonos because of their recent business practices. That aside the port is no upgrade. Half height and being black isn’t upgrades. I’ve been using Alexa pucks to control my existing connects without issues so that’s another non-upgrade as well. They dropped the toslink output which I think is a step backward. I suppose you could argue that it probably makes no sound difference as many point out that neither support high res audio anyway. The only thing he is right about is the software is easy to use and has the highest support from streaming platforms. I suppose I will ride out what I have and upgrade then to a new platform. Some of the systems others has mentioned I’ve had to research but have been looking into the Yamaha and HeOs systems and even the amazon link which to be honest probably sounds just as good but the software I think uses the existing Alexa app doesn’t play well with Apple Music. Does anyone have experience with Denon/Marantz Heos?

[@bobwilkie5721]

no mention of streaming quality and outputs, or did I miss that...

[@AudioAdvice]

Its very good with more streaming music choices than any device we know of. It has both analog and digital outs.

[@hi-fihaven2257]

Dear Audio Advice, please open a store in Denver Colorado, we would love to have you!

[@itscrucial]

Man was about to buy the Sonos Port to add to my 12 year old Yamaha surround system. However at $449 just for the sonos? No way! just bought an entire new surround system. Onkyo TX-R595 for $399 at Costco was a no brainer. Heck it even supports a Sonos but for that cost on a single streaming device, GTFOH. Like c'mon man. Thanks for the review though.

[@henrynuttall7477]

Has this fixed the latency issue that people had when trying to DJ?

[@nirajktm]

Is it worth the higher price than the older connect though? Both serve same purpose

[@therealchickentender]

No. Except that the old device is being deprecated and will eventually be bricked.

[@mckinnonjames]

i hate this guys delivery, it's like he's screaming at me.

[@CecilSaxon]

I know, damn annoying. Just speak normally dude.

[@AudioElectronicsChicago]

Good they came up with a black one!!!

[@none3143]

Did you mention it works off of power. Oh wait the last one did that as well. Sorry about that

[@netkosgarage1855]

But no hi-rez music support yet? C’mon Sonos!!!

[@jacobevans8365]

I suspect they need WiFi6 so people don't complain about buffering and sync issues with mult-room setups and hi-rez music

[@typ237]

Take it down a notch pal, you don’t need to shout

[@PWingert1966]

I recently updated my app and it wiped the entire configuration and knowledge of my beam and Sonos 1's. Luckily, I have an HDMI to optical connection and can still use them with my tv. I can only adjust the volume using the buttons on the devices and can no longer create zones since it is unable to find devices anymore not can I create zones since I cannot add devices to the app. Thanks, Sonos I am going to go buy another soundbar that actually works.

[@AudioAdvice]

Sorry you had trouble. If you purchased your Sonos from Audio Advice we are happy to help you work through this. If not, you should reach out to Sonos tech support. Something definitely went wrong but should be able to get fixed.

[@PWingert1966]

@@AudioAdvice I bought it from an audio dealer here in Toronto. I have had this happen a couple of times a year. If I spend a couple of hours connecting the network cable to each unit (Running it to a local switch with a fibre connection to the main rack in the basement) and then fiddle with the app for an hour or so I can get it back. But my point is it's truly frustrating to lose the complete configuration every couple of months. The dealer I bought them from won't help since it was a clearance item, and he no longer sells SONOS after having to spend too much time on service and setup calls. Since I currently have it providing audio for my tv and the Play 1's are still working I am going to leave it alone for now and eventually get back to it. The only thing I use the app for is volume adjustment and muting it so it's not a high priority.

[@PWingert1966]

@@AudioAdvice Well after fiddling for an hour and getting nowhere with the app suddenly everything is back. Seriously! So frustrating. I'm betting that SONOS did something on the back end and restored the configuration and force-downloaded it back to my app/phone. Thanks, Sonos but really?

[@PWingert1966]

@@AudioAdvice I got it from a local audio store as a clearance item in Toronto several years ago. that dealer was clearing the SONOS product because his techs were spending too much time on service calls for them. Unfortunately, he has also gone out of business. That leaves me alone as the closest audio store near me only supports products they have directly sold. I called Sonos and they suggested re-installing Windows on my laptop. That is a no since the problem is on my cell phone. They are completely out of lunch.

[@jmcg1981]

You miss one major downgrade the new Amp uses Bluetooth to communicate with a sub therefore limiting the distortion 20 feet unlike the Sonos Connect that used the network !!! If you have a central MCR in one location in your home then this will be a big issue if you also want a Sub in some rooms

[@moveadvisor3580]

Get too it! God!!

[@none3143]

It's black ... Nice just really nice. It's small. It's small wow. It's also new... Did you forget to mention it's new....

[@olibaylis6547]

"So without further delay" he says. After 4m 30s...

[@rzm61]

You can control the Connect with a voice assistant enabled speaker. Not too sure why you think this is a new feature for the Port.

[@sloebone7399]

Or you can do it with an Echo.

[@WillHardison]

Finally, black! Thanks for listening, Sonos!

[@robolabor]

One of the 7 ways is the color?

[@benelleliv]

why is this guy talking with such a weird cadence?

[@rayflexentertainment1545]

is this better than bose sa5?

[@AudioAdvice]

Ray, feel free to contact us via phone or chat at Audioadvice.com and we can go over what the Sonos products can do for you.

[@none3143]

That only took ffff 4:30min to actually list the differences.

[@christinearmington]

Thanks

[@paulr3660]

Thanks for the video. Very informative, great audio and video and right to the point.

[@AudioAdvice]

Thank you! We hope you found it useful. We will keep posting new videos.

[@sloebone7399]

It convinced the I don’t need this thing

[@richarddegannes2928]

Hello, Please advise if I can hook up a Sonus Port to my Parasound's P6 Pre-amplifier and use streaming services from a provider say Sportify or whoever? Sonus has an app that can be downloaded to my Ipad and Android phone, that allows me to adjust the treble, bass and volume. How does this work when the Pre-amp also has knobs to adjust these tonal balances. How should I mange these? My equipment are Parasound's P6 pre-amp into A23+ Amplifier to Klipsch's Cornwall IV speakers.

[@AudioAdvice]

Richard, Yes, the port would work for you. Suggest tonal adjustments be done at the pre-amp. For more detailed information please feel free to call us or chat with us at audioadvice.com

[@Ian-nc4im]

Maybe way too late, but I use the Connect with my P6 via coax and it sounds great. I use Tidal with Klipsch Forte speakers if that makes a difference,

[@richarddegannes2928]

@@Ian-nc4im Thanks, Much appreciated.

[@johnwilliamson3164]

It's a no go if it still can't stream hi-res (24bit/192kHz) Ditto that!

[@therealchickentender]

This is utter garbage. It will not maintain it status blah blah blah. For something called "Port", it has woefully *few* ports. Optical output REMOVED. Volume and Play/Pause control REMOVED. *Nothing* added for digital input (a feature desired by many for a number of years) that would have been useful such as additional input via HDMI or optical. The i/o is nearly identical to the Connect except for the features *removed*. The only thing added is voice-support (which can achieved by many other devices - entirely unnecessary in this application), upgraded DAC (the previous version wasn't stellar but it was far from poor) which should be expected, and Apple Airplay 2. This product *could* have been a home-run but instead is a gigantic miss, and Sonos is rewarding users of the Connect by deprecating their system. In my opinion the entire situation is ridiculous, as is the nauseatingly *gushing* presentation in this video ignoring all the above. Oh, it's black. Hats off.

[@TheJTcreate]

This is a big deal? For more that a $100 jump in cost? I love SONOS but the current Connect was already a bit expensive for what it offered. I see nothing that tells me the Port is a serious upgrade to the Connect. As soon as any equipment comparison starts with size and color as the big upgrade, it tells me not much has changed inside. A 12v trigger is nothing since the SONOS connect was hacked years ago and its easy to install one in it. So adding one does not explain the significant rise in cost. Ok, then, so SONOS made the unit smaller and cooler? Well, that's because SONOS took out the AC/DC power board with transformer, and opted for a DC in. I'm fine with that because it makes the unit more versatile but this is not a big deal for the cost. Anything that doesn't have an AC step down transformer with a DC rectifier/filter board in it is going to be much smaller and generates 70% less heat. So, instead, customers will have to contend with an AC/DC power adapter for the port. Removing the power board actually decreases manufacturing costs because it decreases complexity of the unit. There are ton of third party manufacturers who already create a whole product line of pre-existing AC/DC power adapters. SONOS just needs to select the right one, bulk order it and slap their label to it. Finally, SONOS made the SONOS PORT more versatile for future upgrades? That's a fancy way of saying, "We added a little more memory and maybe increased the processor power." BIG DEAL! Any upgrade today is already cheaper to what was created 3 years ago. Increasing memory is really all you can do, if you don't know what the future will bring and you have no specific, current plans. I was hoping for the following. What about a subwoofer output, like with the SONOS Amp? 2.1 channel is still very much a thing these days. What about giving customers the ability to set the digital output to "Fixed volume" while keeping the analog output on a variable volume output control. What about a digital in as well as a digital out? What about an IR out? Denon Heos has all this and it costs the same as a Sonos Connect.

[@vincchou]

Iphone only! No UPNP, DLNA, Chromecast support.....

[@HighlanderJC]

How to turn a 3min video into 8mins

[@Pissarrio]

I lost my love affair with Sonos when they decided not to support iTunes in the iPhone/smart phone

[@user-rf5px3gh3p]

Get Apple Music

[@MrWkendwarrior]

Unless Sonos comes out w a product w the latest DAC chips and circuit components to play hi def/hi rez music, then i am not intetested. I have the Connect, connected to a Sonance DAB1 12 ch home house amp....the sound is nice, but the DAC is so so....With DAC tech vastly improved since i owned the Connect, and w Tidal Premium and other hi rez streaming services, the Port does nothing to address audiophile or any music lovers needs for hi rez. Sonos time to wake up!

[@54tristin]

AND, sounds almost as good as a Vault 2i!

[@mr.dikkens]

This is such paid content

[@funkeymunkey106]

The way he's wiggling his hips is... weird

[@IAmZen_007]

Why are you shouting?

[@elisabetheitel2509]

Does he mean one Port will control my whole house my old Connect? Argh very ambiguous language here.

[@AudioAdvice]

It depends on the use. You can't control multiple zones independently with one Port but you can send an input signal to all zones. If you want to chat with us about your system, come by our site and we would be happy to find the best solution.

[@alisbc1]

Now available in None more Black

[@AudioAdvice]

Thanks for watching!

[@johncornwell1026]

I keep stabbing fast-forward, and he keeps not talking about the only topic in the title.

[@stevieffs]

STOP SHOUTING!

[@mtran923]

Why were you yelling, sir?

[@vote4ulvio]

Bluesound probably sounds better!!

[@none3143]

Does it come in farty green? Or or pigeon blood red? Coz that would have been. A super new feature as well. .. lots of down votes there Bob. ..... Compared to the upvote.

[@MrGvincke]

Really too much talking.. At the end i still don't know the difference and will have to watch another video.. you just want to leave ..it is so easy to make a real presentation with slides, bullet points and all the tech available.. but please.. please.. if you like listening and looking yourself.. there is no arm.. improve your videos with less you..

[@dustinlynn8787]

WHY ARE YOU YELLING AT US????????

[@mford9029]

Wtf?

[@AudioAdvice]

?

[@johnrossall4696]

Get to the point please - so much time wasted!

[@54tristin]

Is he deaf?

[@Deke1]

no optical out...PATHETIC!!

[@AudioAdvice]

Every modern integrated amp or home theater receiver we know of that has an optical input also has a coax. And coax has a wider bandwidth than optical. Optical does have an advantage of no metal to metal connection that could create a ground loop, but we never really see that with coax digital.

[@Deke1]

@@AudioAdvice Like I said, pathetic not to include an optical out...