$700 for PS5 Pro is OUTRAGEOUS

[@TheSystemIsFlawed]

Sony saw people paying $1,000 for PS5's from scalpers and said "If people are willing to pay THAT much maybe we should get in on it."

[@CplCheeto]

it's only a $230 increase actually from the original digital PS5 release price. doesn't look like it but look at the amount inflation has actually effected the value of money and not just in the US it's global.

[@brazy6191]

Yup same thing happen with sneakers

[@seanpitt27]

The cpu is wrong it’s zen2 the exact same with a boost mode to 10% difference

[@sand2025]

Same with GPUs. I think i have a deep hatred for all them people willing to pay the ridiculous scalping prices not thr companies are doing the scalping.

[@ericknunez8069]

There is no excuse. If they released a list of exclusives to justify the upgrade then therre would be a justification. Why would you pay 700 usd just to play the last of us II AGAIN?

[@massformationpsychosis7681]

It’s ridiculous, but 100% to be expected in this economy. PS5 PRO was a moronic move in this economy, granted I don’t think they’ll lose profit considering they didn’t spend too much money upgrading anything.

[@WinstonWolfe21]

PC gaming is where more I think the price is fair I doubt Sony is making anything off of it but I hear u it’s expensive. It’s a premium item tho and is a pretty nice boost over the base model. How much u think Switch 2 will be? I don’t see it being less than $500 and it’ll be as powerful as the PS4 Pro

[@HotB-bc6ns]

I wouldn't be so sure personally, I don't think the PS5 Pro is going to sell much, even the most dedicated consumers have a limit on how much theyd be willing to spend on a console.

[@theendurance]

Assuming you’re talking about the US. The economy has actually never been better. Peoples salaries have increased significantly in just the last 3-5 years. People have way more disposable income nowadays compared to even just a few years ago. Hence why Black Friday or Christmas season shopping keeps reaching new record highs. Americans are not struggling economically in any sense

[@CplCheeto]

​@@theenduranceit's called layaway and credit card dept. the vast majority don't have the money to spend actually. that's also why PDS Dept has had such a large revenue increase over the last few years.

[@theward0ctor974]

The Concord Tax is real

[@terribletimes902]

No it’s not. The Pro was in development long before that game came out.

[@MegaBadseed]

@@terribletimes902Lol the game was in development for way longer than the Pro. It embarrassingly bombed & now wannabe Pro owners are gonna subsidise the costs.

[@ReboyGTR]

*That's what happens when you get too big. It's the Apple effect.*

[@junyaiwase]

The apple effect? Sony??

[@ReboyGTR]

@@junyaiwase Yeah. Marginal upgrade and people still buy it. Sound familiar?

[@GreyWolfLeaderTW]

No, it's more the hipster/elitist/luxury/premium aesthetic whale-chasing effect. Apple as a company has only ~30% of the smartphone market, with Android devices having double that market share. They have consistently only had around 7.5% of the home computer market ever since they and Microsoft have established their GUI interface operating systems in the early 1990s. It has a lot more to do with curating the appearance and customer culture of being an elite/clique/chic product than absolute size of the company. Heck, the PS5 itself is clearly borrowing a lot of the aesthetics of the iApple products lines (and doing so poorly given how ugly Sony's console looks).

[@GreyWolfLeaderTW]

No, it's more the h!p'st3r/elitist/luxury/premium aesthetic whale-chasing effect. Apple as a company has only ~30% of the smartphone market, with Android devices having double that market share. They have consistently only had around 7.5% of the home computer market ever since they and Microsoft have established their GUI interface operating systems in the early 1990s. It has a lot more to do with curating the culture of being an elite/clique/chic product than absolute size of the company. Heck, the PS5 itself is clearly borrowing a lot of the aesthetics of the iApple products lines (and doing so poorly given how ugly Sony's console looks).

[@Brisingr73]

​@@GreyWolfLeaderTW Definitely not 30% in the U.S.

[@jerfacekilla]

If it was $699 with the stand and blu-ray drive, ok. But Sony decided to nickel and dime us by charging $30 and $80 for accessories that should be included in the box. The gall.

[@warmredwater]

This is a cash-in on those folks that have their preferred console brand tied up to their personal identity.

[@christownsend552]

Sounds like something pc hardware company's do as well

[@gunshaft]

I’m surprised you didn’t get into inflation here. In Nov 2020 the ps5 was $499, which is $603 in Aug 2024 money. All told the ps5 pro is only about $97 more than the ps5 at release.

[@andrewj3413]

Closer to $608 in todays money

[@gunshaft]

@@andrewj3413 whoa, yeah. I messed up the inflation range there. Thanks!

[@michielderuyter5714]

800 euro in Europa, 890 $

[@GetSchwiftyTV]

I honestly think nobody would be complaining if they made it $600 and then had one with the disk drive for $700. That way it would be $500 for digital edition, $600 you can either get the disk drive or the pro digital edition, and then $700 was the pro with disk drive. Would have made their lineup make way more sense

[@BlueIsLeet]

700 dollars for 1.6 terabytes? That 'extra space' is gonna fill up quick and so you'll need an external drive just like before. Should have been 2-3TB.

[@UnchainedSora]

The specs are wrong. It's 2 TB

[@terribletimes902]

Those specs are made up. RDNA 4, not RDNA 3. 60 CU, not 70 CU. 3.85 GHz CPU boost, not 4.2 GHz. 2 TB SSD, not 1.6 TB.

[@Smokinjoewhite]

@@UnchainedSora split the difference and call it 1.8TB after formatting then you have the interface/OS. Probably close to 1.6TB usable space.

[@Smokinjoewhite]

It's a 2TB drive, after format and OS it's likely closer to 1.6 though, maybe 1.7TB.

[@Eragonfrost]

He's talking about the left over space after PS5 OS so it should be 1.6TB of useable space

[@Adam65510]

Let’s not forget your also having to pay AT LEAST 80 a year to play online

[@Objdodge_1]

Dude that’s less than 7$ a month lmao 🤣

[@ImGravityEU]

In the uk, a ps5 pro and a disc tray to go with it costs $1050 because the playstation products aren't being sold accurately to conversion rates...

[@varunaX]

in canada, its going to be more than 1k with tax even without the disc drive

[@cherrycola4476]

Your guys dollar is worth less

[@ChrisDaTroll]

@@cherrycola4476 this lmao cad is weak

[@cherrycola4476]

@@ChrisDaTroll What?

[@cloutyweather]

@@cherrycola4476cad as in Canadian dollars, in reference to the persona you were replying to.

[@Honeneko.]

I would never compare building a PC to buying a console. You're paying for convenience. Linus explains a little on the behalf of PCs. Mentions you can just upgrade you're PCs GPU for that price. He also mentioned that, if you try for inflation, it still isn't the most expensive console they come out with. Price of video games and their platforms needs to go up. There has been years and years of cuts backs to retain that price that the consumer is comfortable with, but it comes at a tradeoff of quality.

[@ApertureApex]

I might be in the minority here, but despite being more than capable of building a pc equivalent to the ps5 pro for price, having a device that's dedicated to doing one thing (well) is something I value. With pc gaming, you have to constantly micro manage your computer to ensure hardware drivers are playing nicely and windows isn't shafting your fps with background processes. Man, windows sucks. Also, some pc games just simply run badly regardless of your setup. But for many people, cheap games, the versatility of having a work + gaming machine, and modularity of hardware make it worth it. Honestly, as an infrequent gamer, when I do hop on, I prefer to sit back in a couch and not worry about the aforementioned.

[@mrgoodbar216]

As a pc gamer its not that bad you update the graphics drivers and the motherboard bios from time to time thats it. Pc gaming is superior to console gaming in almost every aspect

[@Juice_VI]

You are in the minority. But I’m right there with you. Console is much easier than PC. There’s a lot less to worry about and a lot less to deal with. Source: Me. I’ve had both.

[@AlmostWatchable]

One thing to note is it's unlikely for components, even for consoles, to get any cheaper in the immediate future. Between the demand in parts to power AI data centres and the fact we've reached a plateau on the size of semi-conductors, we don't have a way to reduce manufacturing costs at the moment.

[@Samsonfs]

I know the ps5 and series X have now been out for 4 years, but most games barely even make use of the technology or don't just go for 1440p higher frames instead of pointless 4k.

[@thew4rrior5code]

And most gamers like me didn't even get hands on the ps5 for 2-3 years after it's release due to the scalpers and limited parts available for ps5 through COVID etc.

[@Honeneko.]

I think it's a great upgrade for those still on the base PS4. It came out 10+ years ago. Most people upgrade their PCs by then to play more modern games. As someone who maybe upgrades their phone every 5, 6, or 7 years, or want a seamless multiplayer experience, I find it crazy that BO6 will still support that console.

[@MrViper7121]

I'd be fine with $600 price, but $700 is too much. Sony crossed the line this time.

[@Lazydino59]

They gotta pay for that Concord debacle somehow…

[@terribletimes902]

Whatever that game cost was a drop in the bucket compared to their hardware sales. This is the stupidest theory by far.

[@steelers122133]

Its kinda silly to me we mention a 400$ gpu and a 160$ cpu and act like the price tag is surprising Disk drive and stands separate are a huge miss though

[@mork6894]

Hey Drift, you might want to check on your mic settings, there was a consistent low feedback in this video that i haven't heard before. It's very hard to notice, but it's there and easier to pick out when you pause in speaking. Keep up the great talking points man!

[@Chrissy717]

I am pretty sure those specs are all wrong. The CPU didn't change, the memory didn't get an upgrade as far as I know. Did I miss something? Beau that's definitely not what I've heard.

[@Clump666]

I remember hearing that about the CPU as well

[@killafx4726]

GDDR6X is a Micron-Nvidia thing; it does not exist on anything other than Nvidia's 'high-end' GPUs. And yeah, the CPU part is wrong, as it's more like the 3000 desktop series, which was indeed Zen 2. This is a wishlist post sort of thing that was made in response to the Pro being a possibility. If these specs were somehow true, then it wouldn't seem like such a naff deal in the grand scheme. Realistically, it probably should have been around 500-ish - launch price, and that'd be a pretty fair deal.

[@Crashed131963]

The Pro and Base Ps5 CPU are the same AMD Zen2 with same core a,thread count and clock speed.

[@VMCKTC]

My problem with the price is that your paying for the resolution bump but that's if the developers implement it. A lot of games won't even get the same benefit and will run just as much as the PS4 can

[@Nan0Cell]

And on top of building an equivalent PC for the same price, games on PC tend to have discounts and sales way more often

[@colinmcmasters5819]

$80 for a PS5 controller is actually pretty reasonable, I remember paying $49.99 for another N64 controller at launch. That scales with inflation.

[@CalebMay-bf1ci]

$50 in 1995?

[@AwesomeRandomVids]

The thing is, the tech in there probably makes $700 make sense from a margins perspective, but for a consumer who already has the PS5 it just isn't worth it

[@mrtron7837]

In Australia to build a complete PC setup with a desktop PC that performs as good as a PS5 Pro, it costs $4500, as much as buying a 20 year old used car. I can’t fathom spending that much money just to play games and to have bragging rights, I would have to be doing a lot more than just gaming like running a business to justify spending that much on a PC setup.

[@cjlovestexas]

Even if you kill backwards compatibility from last gen, third parties are going to struggle getting the most out of a PS5 Pro since games also have to run on the Series S

[@FluffiestWalrus]

My read on this is that there isn’t really any major improvement needed in this console gen. As you said, there aren’t many improvements here. So when Sony was designing a mid-gen update they knew that the console would only be moderately better. Because of that they decided to price aggressively to cover their costs fully instead of taking losses on each console like they used to. These were never going to sell all that much whether they are $700 or $500 - the features just aren’t that robust. So they might as well cover their whole costs! I actually think this decision makes perfect sense from Sony’s point of view

[@joshuawi99]

One Point you missed here is playing at 120hz on PS5. I will get the pro only for reaching 120fps in Warzone at 1080p all the time and that will be the case with a 40% performance uplift.

[@BreakingDimes]

Those PS5 Pro specs you have listed in the beginning is a side-by-side or false it's a RDNA 3 part with 60 compute units with some features from amd's next gen GPU architecture both will have 16 gigs of RAM but the PS5 Pros will be clocked faster and the CPU got a slight overclock and that's it

[@Joshbob567]

still not worth 750$ or more

[@BreakingDimes]

I 100% agree ​@@Joshbob567

[@BreakingDimes]

@@Joshbob567 I agree 100%

[@CplCheeto]

$700 isn't that much more then the original digital PS5 was at launch of you account for inflation. it's only a $230 increase so.... the problem is inflation only increases the cost of items but doesn't increase our pay. you realize the cost of that GPU is way more than the price increase of the PS5 right. not including the ram or storage increase cost in parts. yes Sony gets a discount for buying in bulk but still look at AMD selling handheld gaming devices with that GPU for $899+ with similar ram and less storage.

[@calvindaniels3367]

Ps5 pro with same cpu is a big mistake it is impossible ps5 pro able to run gta 6 60fps that’s what make developers holding back because how Sony use a weak cpu it is harder to development

[@guerrerosaurio]

Great, I can now get the ps5 pro with 8k gaming and buy an HDMI to RCA adapter to play in my 2000's CRT TV.

[@Jwebbplayz]

10.3 teraflop GPU power to 16.4 to 17.3 teraflops GPU (PS5 pro) = 2 PC = custom OC 6700XT running a high clock. If anything.. it’s mainly targeted towards a marketing refresh for shareholders but .. I’m still curious to see how it performs

[@DeepMukherjee]

There is no CPU change for PS5 Pro, its still the same zen 2 core

[@terribletimes902]

None of those specs are correct. They are made up

[@brodymundy4875]

i love that they keep pushing that it can do 120hz even though most people will be using it with a tv and most tvs only manage about 60hz

[@ItsSerranoHD]

And now Sony released the PC adapter for PSVR 2 for $60, so if someone already has the headset, it's more valuable to simply build a PC and run VR off of that instead (and get way better VR games to boot).

[@crittenpower]

not everyone might want a pc, but man can i say it is just the best option for home entertainment, all your games on 1 device which will 100% play better than any console, pc games you otherwise couldnt play on console, and access to the internet, if your issue is that you want it hooked up to the tv i would say get and all in one wireless keyboard with a trackpad so you can use it as a remote, then use any imput device you want to play your games

[@fetteecke]

The problem lies in inflation. Adjusted for inflation the consoles are very in line. The problem is nit all wages are rising with inflation and we experienced unusual high inflation over the last years which is why the nominal amount seems so much

[@Introverted100]

Damn $700 is outrageous

[@varunaX]

way to copy the title of the video

[@Introverted100]

@@varunaX Thanks

[@wg5331]

Finished watching the video and the only caveat I have is your analogy with grocery prices getting more expensive “just because they can”. Are there some companies charging more for greed. Yes. But in about 75% of the levels of agriculture, there is an intense amount of red tape and regulation that’s occurred in the last few years really hurting people in the agriculture community. To make ends meet, prices need to go up. Again, there’s been some companies documented to do shady business but that is not the reason why consumers are feeling the added cost at the grocery store.

[@TheProJigsaw]

I was just craving some good content after scrolling accidentally, always happy to see a driftor upload :D

[@Crashed131963]

The CPU has not been changed Same AMD Zen2 with same core /thread count and clock speed . LOOK it UP. The Pro does have a 200MHZ boost allowing the 3.5MHZ base clock speed to hit 3.8 MHZ once in awhile .

[@jguzman13033]

Not a ps5 owner but the only reason why I would consider a pro is because who knows how long we will have to wait for a gta6 port to pc

[@jasonlichtsinn4313]

This is what happens when there's no competition 😢

[@Fbothoughtofmind]

This right here

[@LiveTUNA]

What at you mean no competition?? You can now play Xbox on the fire stick. 😂😢

[@KaguyasBeat]

It's kinda wild to me we're starting to see mid 9th gen upgrades now and major titles are still being made for the ORIGINAL 8th gen... looking even to releases for 2025. Given at least for PS... this really isn't an upgrade and certainly not worth that money if you already have the original system (Even then just get the standard system...). BO3 was the final year for 7th gen systems and the game was a skeleton of what it was on the 8th gen... That was 2 years after the launch of the 8th gen. Mid 8th gen came out the next year (3 years after original launch) and major titles like CoD were no longer being made for PS3/360. We're 4 years after the launch of 9th gen now.

[@AlfaWeeb]

What I like about console is that my games almost always just work without any issues. I have an expensive gaming PC too, but there I sometimes run into weird technical issues. So I am actually gravitating towards becoming a console exclusive gamer. Buttttt of course guys «you do you»

[@YoungDolan]

The only way id even think about recommending this is for the people who skipped the ps5 to wait for a pro model. There’s no reason to upgrade if you have the current model. But I will say PCs are quite a bit more pricy I’ll always stick with consoles but this is crazy I’ll wait till my ps5 dies

[@CalebMay-bf1ci]

Even then i would just buy a ps5 you can get one without a drive for like$300

[@Velllocity]

I feel like PSSR is going to have a massive impact for the visuals on a lot of games. Because most games now are just using AMD’s FSR which unlike NVIDIA’s DLSS doesn’t use any AI to do the upscaling so you end up with a lot of image artifacts especially in motion. Not to mention a lot of newer games are using stupidly low internal rendering resolutions, like 720p in some instances, and then relying fully on FSR to upscale the game back up to 4K. So regardless of the pretty substantial bump in GPU performance I feel like not a lot of people are talking about just how impactful PSSR could be. But are all the improvements worth $700… probably not

[@liamcdm3689]

Well now I'm glad I have been recently getting more into PC gaming. I've been a lifelong Playstation guy but the opportunity cost is getting unsustainable for me.

[@DavidElCasualGamer]

It should have been $599 disc version and $499 for the digital. $700 is crazy indeed, and it doesn’t even include the vertical stand 🤦🏻‍♂️. I do have to admit, I saw Digital Foundry’s videos and Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth looks and runs a lot better.

[@ROB89GKO]

It even hurts more in Germany. We have to pay 800,-€ for the PS5 Pro. 700,-$ would be the deal of the year for me 😂

[@YxngTexas]

That is an INSANE price.

[@jonathanwilkerson4592]

If it’s not allowing 200 to 240 fps 4K then it’s not worth getting a ps5 pro. There’s no significant gain. Unlike how the ps4 pro was compared to the ps4, that at least allowed 4K @60fps vs 1080p on the base ps4

[@Brisingr73]

4K 60? Bruh, we don't even get that now (upscaling doesn't count).

[@DManLewis1]

You cant actually build an equivalent pc because windows takes up so much recourses on your computer. Gotta keep that in mind

[@JakeP2013]

this is annoying because I had my mind made up before the pro was even announced that I would get it for GTA 6, I assumed at worst it would be $600

[@diegodiniz]

Here in Brazil costs almost R$ 8.000,00 !!! Uau 😨 😦 So… that “8k” on the box is explained 😂😂🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

[@iwaskillcam1434]

Supposedly Sony will be showing a lot more with the PS5 Pro during the Sony state of play at the end of the month

[@bonefat21]

Sony being greedy and anti-consumer? Nah, doesn’t sound like them.

[@kit_horror]

Everyone seems to be forgetting that TAX ADDS ANOTHER $70+

[@TecraX2]

Sony: "Exactly what part of "PAY has NO LIMITS!" was unclear to you?!?"

[@sasquatchcrew]

RDNA 3 has Radeon ROCm capabale cores. Should be good for AI upscaling later.

[@DutchDesires]

Bought a series S for €210 on discount. Sure it's not gonna beat the PS5 pro in power, but even looking at side by sides: it's shockingly close to the PS5. It's harder to spot a difference in those comparisons than it is to find Waldo. I think the 500 it saves to a PS5 pro would be way better spent in upgrading the tv or sound system to immerse yourself into the game more for the average household gamer.

[@edalrivers1998]

I have a theory that everyone that makes these kinds of videos are also going to make videos titled "I bought a ps5 pro so you don't have to..." on release 😂

[@codexct8787]

The console + disc drive + vertical stand + 1 game + pin subscription is literally a $1000 i dont think anyone wants to do that

[@bakednotfried1184]

Feel like Sony is punishing ponies for The Concord Disaster 😂

[@Brisingr73]

Ponies? Brother grow up 😬

[@diligaf1000]

No stand is the biggest insult

[@Crashed131963]

I think it lays horizontal without a stand .

[@DiehardtNG10]

In Jan I went from A ps4/ gt710 To 4070 TI And it was night and day difference for $1100 Complete system

[@gtrmadman4127]

Is there not an external blueray drive for PlayStation 5 ??

[@IrishWolf]

just under €900 with stand and disc drive... :/

[@xKillahz]

sony has no real competiotion anymore, so the now pull the same move as when the ps3 released

[@NickyGi]

950€ in Europe with the disc drive and vertical stand.

[@JoshyyBear_]

Hey driftor. I was wondering if you’d be able to speak on project 2025 and why it’s getting so much negativity from the media, whereas project 2030 didn’t. And how 2025 differs from any other elected president taking office and selecting members of their own cabinet. It’s all just a little confusing to me. Is it a fear tactics coming from his opponent, or is it actually something we should be weary of? I know you’re a very intellectual and socially aware person who’s touched upon political issues in the past, so I thought maybe you might be able to clear things up for me and others who might be interested to know.

[@Drift0r]

You should 100% be weary. In my opinion is is far worse than most media reporting.

[@ratchet2505]

(Hozi) I'm gonna be truthful with you Drift0r, at first even I was like it's not worth the money but as I've learned more details. It has become more enticing, especially after your video and told me about the memory upgrade which is huge. Way bigger than the GPU upgrade, because now they have lowered the through put bottle neck.

[@BreakingDimes]

The memory is just upgraded speed it's just higher bandwidth it's still the same amount with newer games the biggest bottleneck is the CPU and with that not changing all that much you're just going to see higher resolutions

[@seyrnahd]

The wepc build specs is actually more sensible for price-performance. Under $800 is absolutely achievable, and lets not forget PS5 requires a subscription so people need to factor that in as well. Honestly I don't buy the whole console convenience argument, I mean seriously how hard is it to run an HDMI to your TV? Are people legitimately that inept or lazy that setting your pc to update occasionally is somehow unthinkable? The only argument regarding console that has validity is exclusives, and when factoring in children security as it is a closed (or can be made) system.

[@Crashed131963]

There is only a sub fee if you play online Multiplayer games .

[@seyrnahd]

@@Crashed131963 which you will probably pay unless you want to be gated from the vast catalog of online games present on console.

[@Crashed131963]

@@seyrnahd Never had interest in multiplayer games .

[@haraldtopfler]

I've always been a console fanboy because it just was cheaper and more user friendly, but the price of the PS5 Pro is seriously making me consider a change to PC

[@ScottMckayy]

If the normal ps5 was announced do to 4K @ 120 then what’s the point of the ps5 bro unless it can do 1440p @ 200 + or even 4k @ 180fps.. just seems like a minimal upgrade.

[@kevinlemanquais2006]

It is ridiculous. But in all honesty, I purchased the PS4 pro and put 6 terabyte Samsung SSD in it. So I may have paid that with the previous Gen.

[@kristapsthegamer]

I ment to upgrade before presentation but once I saw the price I instantly changed my mind . That is not going to happen under any circumstances

[@stevenhorton785]

Driftor I hav a question. My ps5 slim has aim assist like that double rotational aim assist. So I made a vid. My Xbox doesn’t play nothin like this. I hav a zoom on Xbox. Like a huge zoom. Both monitors are Acer 165 curved and the 1440 htz Xbox has no aim assist. It’s on. Too. But if u want to look or if u would giv me answer or opinion

[@Grgxr]

The pro will use the same Zen 2 cpu, it will hold it back in games

[@ADukesJustice]

This is worrying for the price of next gen. If the PS6 comes out in 4-5 years, it's gonna cost just as much as, if not more than the PS5 Pro. Highly doubt it's going to be cheaper. Time to build a pc.

[@coryfancher970]

If the PS5 is $500, how much should the PS5 Pro cost? You mentioned $400, but that’s cheaper than the base model

[@sydclark5581]

Its for Mams & Dads who will be buying young timmie a playstation for xmas

[@BlackAdri88]

1$=1.3£ yet both UK and US pay 699$ and 699£... At this point just call me stupid and spit in my face 😅

[@RuseGuise]

I didn't know they increased the price of the ps5 controller

[@killerkevo]

Jaytwocents built some around the same price as a ps5 pro and got the same performance with a 3060 or 4060 nvidia gpu. I can’t remember with series it was but it was the lowest tier card

[@mash2481]

Should be $599 with disc drive, but apparently Sony is tired of losing money on the console unit. So $699/sans disc drive, is what we get. I’ll wait for a sale. Lol!

[@user_breathless]

Once there’s a better OS than Windows, I’ll think about a PC

[@baohoaily]

I highly doubt it’s Zen 4, if it is then it’s a crazy bargain.

[@mash2481]

Inflation is actually going down, yet Sony is raising their price. Not a good idea, guys.

[@Marvelmar86]

the thumbnail is gold :D

[@nathanaelcollins6520]

I could be wrong about this, but I thought Xbox already has their "premium version" of their console in the form of the series X?

[@Laynel8]

Nope. That launched alongside the Series S as part of Microsoft's jump to 9th gen.

[@gwstreams]

Not sure why we are complaining. Did you expect to get a console with those specs for $500?

[@Colipop52]

theyr proving u can actually milk sheep. sony and apple are in competition to see how many sheep they can actually milk dry lol

[@Kevlashnikov]

They saw what people were paying scalpers. And said they need their cut.

[@mr.electronx9036]

I don't care about consoles at all. Got all good games on PC and even cheaper. Sony brings almost all exclusives to Pc so there's no reason why i should spend $700 on a plastix box. For that amount of money you can invest in a brand new gpu like upcomming nvidia 50 series

[@pippwondo1507]

Xbox needs to have one made with good performance and no way to cheat

[@icy1172]

We have games where they are still being made for LAST GEN. That will be a massive bottleneck for the pro. It already is for the current gen!