PMDG 737-700 for MSFS - Failures: Manual Reversion

Hi all, I'm a PMDG tech team member and real life 737 pilot and today I've created this video to show you some of the abilities of the PMDG 737-700 for MSFS. It is intended as first in a whole series to follow where I'll be showing some non normal operation of the airplane.
In todays video we will look at manual reversion, aka failure of hydraulic systems A and B. What is it like to fly the airplane without hydraulics? Which impact does it have on aircraft performance, what steps does the checklist guide us through? How do you do alternate flap and gear extension? How does a professional pilot handle the QRH during such a failure?
The Boeing 737 is one of the few airliners flying to date that still has a mechanical connection between the control surfaces and the control column. During normal operations the control cables go right into the aileron (through the aileron feel and centering unit) and elevator Power Control Units (PCUs). However with loss of hydraulic system A and B the ailerons and elevators can be mechanically positioned by control wheel movement.
Let's see what's going on when this happens.
The video has been taken using a pre-release beta version of the product, so you can expect to see some issues that will be fixed before release. There's no need to point those out as the team will be aware and working on them already. One example is the missing trim sounds which are still to be added.
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This series of videos is not intended as tutorials, even though I occasionally do some explaning when I think it is worth it, but they are intended as a demonstration of the capabilities of the PMDG 737-700 for Microsoft Flight Simulator and what it can look like when being flown by a professional pilot.
I'll be closing this introduction by saying that I'm not a professional KZbinr or Streamer and these videos are my very first that actually get more than a hundret clicks. I have never before created such content so bear with me for doing beginner mistakes.
I record straight from the sim without any fancy stuff going on in the background.
Infact for this very video I had to learn how to even cut two videos together as I had to leave my computer right in the middle of the approach and forgot to press pause. Reminder for everyone: Do press the pause button (NOT ACTIVE PAUSE!) if you need to leave for a while and the AP is not engaged!
Tools and addons used in this video:
SimToolKitPro: simtoolkitpro....
Navigraph Charts: navigraph.com/
Simbrief Flightplanning: www.simbrief.c...
Bahrometrix Dortmund Airport scenery: www.bahrometrix...
Aerosoft Cologne Airport: www.aerosoft.c...
Nvidia Shadowplay
Windows Movie Maker

[@martingerner9677]

Again: Highly informative, no ballyhoo at all. Watching your VERY GOOD videos I realize how tired I am of youtubers producing nothing but hot air. 🙄

[@waisingyung]

I'm not a native English speaker, English is a bit difficult for me, but your speaking speed is comfortable for me. And I'm also happy to have an actual 737 pilot share some non normal operation & trick & tips . Great job😉

[@A330Driver]

Thanks! This way of speaking (in the operational part of things) and reading checklists is actually something I learned during the CRM training in my flight training. It makes things a lot easier for many people and avoids misunderstandings. I'm glad that it has the same effect on youtube!

[@duaxrte]

PMDG with another real study level airliner. Can’t wait for the -800NG variant

[@A330Driver]

Me too, the -800 is the one I'm really looking forward to!

[@MrGreyfoxut]

As more of a GA fan, can you explain to me what differences there will be between the 600, 700 and 800 variants and why PMDG would go to all the effort in modelling all these and why people would be waiting for other variants? is it just comfort in what you have flown? I imagine cockpit wise they would all be very similar? Thank you :)

[@a.nelprober4971]

So annoying they are dragging out the -800 for marketing purposes but I will probably buy it

[@hairsiluet]

I love so much these 737 PMDG videos! 🙏🏻🛫👏🏻👏🏻💪🏻🤩

[@jcfmy1913]

Simply amazing. Concise and clear explanations, it's all what we need with that kind of product

[@Jojos25]

I would have loved to see the external view with the collapsed gear, but all in all great content and glad we have a fantastic new KZbinr to learn from :-)

[@TheVirtualAirlinePilot]

Fantastic video! And probably one of the most interesting and accurate and well presented videos I have ever seen in many years of Simming and watching KZbin! And again, as if we didn't know it, this sort of video presentation reminds us that despite many years of simming, we really don't know very much! And the sort of training you go through to be able to handle these sorts of emergencies is really incredible. As a desktop pilot of many years and many hours on the PMDG 737 in FSX and P3D, just when I think I know a bit, I see a video like this that reminds me I'm just a simmer! But thank you for reminding viewers (and VATSIM ATC chaps!) that we always operate as single pilots with no FO! And therefore the workload can be very high! On behalf of all of us wanna be pilots, thank you for giving up your time and your knowledge to help us to be better desktop pilots. And I'm really looking forward to getting back into the 737 again - and studying again to re-learn to fly this aircraft! Thank you. All the best - Lee (virtualairlinepilot) West Sussex UK

[@A330Driver]

Hi Lee and thank you very much for the kind words! My impression with many desktop pilots is that they do possess quite some knowledge, however it's mostly scattered around the head and connections are missing. It would need a good instructior to make those connections and all of the sudden things will start making sense. That's at least how it felt to me in flight school after being a simmer for many years by then.

[@TheVirtualAirlinePilot]

@@A330Driver Hi again. I spent many years at Heathrow in Aviation Security - and again at Gatwick in the same job. I had many pilot friends from the likes of British Airways (Heathrow - the 747 and 737) and EasyJet (Gatwick - on the Airbus) who helped me to refine my abilities as much as I could in a Single Pilot operation. Some of those people I still know, now that I am retired, but not as much as I did when I was on duty. And I'm still learning. But I'm looking forward to learning the 737 all over again. Take care - Lee

[@alexbeckett2148]

I have had to deal with manual reversion in the 737-800 full motion sim for training... I can confirm it does indeed suck.

[@A330Driver]

Oh yes! Simmers can judge themselves happy that they don't have proper force feedback!

[@NiclasGleesborg]

@@A330Driver is there any yokes with any kind of force feedback?

[@A330Driver]

@@NiclasGleesborg Not the kind of force feedback you'd need to simulate a manual reversion. There are some out there on the market, but nothing that's close to the real 737s force when you don't have hydraulics.

[@JustMe00257]

Well done! I haven't flown the 737 in a long time but I do remember that the 737 is a bitch to fly in manual reversion, so personally I would request a block altitude to reduce the workload and I would set aside the maintenance aspect in my decision making and focus and safety, so in this situation I would favour FRA over CGN because it's got half the crosswind component, which will make it easier to land the aircraft. Just a personal assessment here.

[@teropa79]

This content is awesome💪, no bs and to the point

[@omriginzburg4597]

Thanks. One of the main reasons I am considering buying this aircraft is the failure simulations. Really looking forward for your next videos in this series!

[@omriginzburg4597]

Also in the topic of failures per request - I would be interested in seeing a pressurization related failure. Also, if you can consider running any failure while online on e.g. VATSIM so we can get a feel how the procedures go along with the communication.

[@A330Driver]

Indeed, the possibility to do some of the non normal stuff is something I really love as well!

[@A330Driver]

Thanks, I am certainly considering a rapid decompression at some point. I might actually do it this week as I'm currently re-reading this topic anyway for my next recurrence simulator training in two weeks time. However something that bothers me with the decompression is how to realise it in the simulator. The Captain and First Officer are doing a LOT of different things at the same time during this manouver and I'm not quite sure yet how to do that in the sim without a second pilot. Something I'll scratch my head about over the next days. I'm considering doing some failures on VATSIM, but I have to find some controllers who are actually willing to help with this as many controllers are not particulary happy about major malfunctions and emergencies. At least not when there's a lot of traffic around. And without traffic it's kinda boring as well, isn't it?

[@a.nelprober4971]

17:15 this genuinely terrifies me about the bus

[@jakubszabo1898]

Im just half into my ab initio training and if all goes well I should start my 737 type rating around september. This is just getting on time and it looks fantastic. Your videos are great. I believe that if you make this channel educational and explain certain procedures lets say from normal operation ( from cold and dark start in phases to get back on the ground) in dept enough for flight simulation this channel would be well appreciated and grow exponentially . you have a good voice and people would obviously get all the info rather from a real pilot than other flight simmers. You could easily build up the subscriber base by that. I would suggest 10-15 min. videos just to explain one phase of flight (cold and dark start, setting up FMS, getting started with charts, take off and climb etc.). Theres still nothing like that from a real pilot. Cheers anyway

[@A330Driver]

Thanks Jakub! Just keep in mind, I do have to simplify some procedures for these videos so don't take everything you see for granted. Personally, I also used such videos as tools during my flight training, however I mainly used them to learn the attitudes at which to approach such situations (mainly: DON'T RUSH, unless the thing is burning and falling apart there is absolutely no need to rush into anything) and to get an insight into the decision-making process. Enjoy your training, you will absolutely love the 737 once you fly it!

[@johnpeters5906]

Thank you, now I see what they mean with Fly, Navigate and communicate, calm and cool🙂

[@A330Driver]

Absolutely, something I always noticed when watching so many popular streamers is that they just went a bit hectic. You can most often tell my the management of non normal scenarios if somebody is a real life pilot or not. Ps.: Of course that's not meant in any negative way towards any other youtuber or streamer! In fact I am quite sure some do it on purpose because it's more entertaining for the audience. Something that I'll avoid on my channel, my goal is to show you how we are trained to do it in real life.

[@blaire8288]

Very great video! Great entertainment and amazing instruction. I would vote for engine/APU fire as the next video if it hasn't already been decided. Cheers from Canada.

[@A330Driver]

Thanks Blair, engine/APU fire will definitely come at some point!

[@peterlazuric5641]

Another great video thanks for sharing

[@gregc9916]

Hello, Great video and very informative for a non pilot to see how this emergency is handled. You mentioned an add on that allows you to arrange the documents so you consult easily but I did not catch the name. Could you let me know what tool you used? Thanks

[@A330Driver]

Hi Greg, it's called SimToolKitPro.

[@giuseppegambino8614]

Very nice Job!

[@tyrolish]

Very interesting video again, thank's a lot for your help and thank's also to PMDG to simulate this kind of issue.

[@PabloSebastianDiaz]

Excellent Video!! Excuse me. Where to find that pmdg non normal check list you consult on your video?? Big fan of your content.

[@egoegoegoegoegoegoego]

How do I prevent CDS fault it is super annoying and I’m getting worried because I have come to a dead end when it comes to finding a solution. Do you have a idea of how to fix my problem

[@biroleau]

Super video - astonishing - Nice Job for us all

[@A330Driver]

Thank you so much!

[@Th3Duck0nQuak]

very good Emi! well done - AK

[@lancerproductions57]

I have a question regarding the hydraulic system, specifically the alternate flaps switch. With the hydraulic system operating normally, after watching several CBT videos and other videos describing the operation of the system and the logic, when the alternate flaps switch is switched to ARM the standby rudder shutoff valve remains shut and the corresponding light on the overhead stays off. However, in the PMDG 737 it comes on if this switch is put in the ARM position. Is this correct or is the logic in the sim aircraft incorrect? Thanks. Love your videos.

[@A330Driver]

Probably the logic of the sim aircraft, but I need to check in the manuals again. If you think you found any bug please submit it to support.pmdg.com so that it can be fixed in an update!

[@lancerproductions57]

@@A330Driver Thanks for the reply. I did submit a support ticket and they’ll be looking into it soon and will get back to me.

[@guilherme94]

Great video. Thank you!!

[@Eleuth56]

Great video, thanks. After landing the yoke makes a clicking noise. Maybe I missed the explanation, but is the yoke acting the same in real world if you damage your landing gear?

[@A330Driver]

I am rather glad that I do not have the necessary experience to answer your question ;-) Well hoenstly, I don't think it should do that. Will raise it with the developers.

[@Eleuth56]

@@A330Driver 😄 Thanks.

[@jincyayrattu6606]

Tnx Capt

[@kristiantodt6490]

Oh shame to hear that they wont be providing the QRH, will there still be other manuals?

[@A330Driver]

Yes, there will be many manuals included. But as far as I know (and I might be wrong here) no official Boeing manuals.

[@robsonbr1246]

Shouldn´t the landing gear horn be silenced once the landing gear is down? Thanks

[@A330Driver]

Yes it should. Seems like there was a flight sim internal fault due to the gravity gear extension. The team is reviewing it as we speak.

[@runnygames9027]

do the brakers work or will they work with the electronic system realistically?

[@A330Driver]

C/Bs are currently not simulated. However, crews aren't supposed to touch them anyway unless directed by a non normal checklist and hardly any checklist actually does that. In fact the only one I recall by heart right now is the airspeed unreliable checklist where you can pull the stick shacker C/B to silence nuisance warnings.

[@regalclan5202]

If you meant brakes for the wheels, Yes they would work with pressure stored in the brake accumulator this pressure is used in case of emergencies like manual reversion

[@runnygames9027]

@@regalclan5202 that's good to know

[@VitysBY]

Good video! Is it possible to buy somewhere now?

[@A330Driver]

Not yet, it's still in beta. Follow the PMDG forums for updates about the release: forum.pmdg.com/

[@VitysBY]

@@A330Driver that is free download?

[@cjqazi6537]

When they will be officially releasing it?

[@A330Driver]

I don't know, currently there is no release date published. It shouldn't be too far off though.

[@andresdiaz4514]

Good video. Why the trim is not working? I dont hear in the video

[@Aceorbit]

No trim sounds yet is what I’ve heard, they will be implemented before release I think though

[@andresdiaz4514]

@@Aceorbit sounds good. Thank you for your video. I hope you upload more.

[@Jet-Pack]

@@andresdiaz4514 At the beginning of the video he said that the sound is missing still and that PMDG is aware of this

[@gamerdeol2694]

Has msfs fixed the trim bug where you need to hold the trim button someseconds before it changes rather than tick up or down by increments

[@A330Driver]

Not sure if Asobo (the MSFS devlopers) have fixed it yet, but I can say that in the PMDG 737 the trim reacts instantly.

[@JavierRollon]

does it has non programmed failures? I mean, those that are produced after some flying and bad previous decitions? Maintenance of pieces, etc? So the plane won't be never as new as the first time is operated? Thanks!

[@speedbrake22]

From what I've heard there are failures that can occur based on the real world mean time between failures

[@A330Driver]

It does have service based failures, yes! And if you don't do regular maintenance checks (provided you have service based failures enabled) you will run into those.

[@JavierRollon]

@@A330Driver nice!

[@Alpha_Tango.737]

Whene they release 737PMDG ??

[@A330Driver]

Once they're confident that all major issues are fixed. They really want to make sure you're getting something to enjoy and that doesn't need an update twice a day. And I believe they're on a good track. Without doubt there will be issues on release, things the beta team never ran into or things that are just too small to be considered required for release. But the overall aircraft should be in a really good state by the time it comes out for all of you. When that's going to be? "soon"

[@outside7]

@@A330Driver I really enjoy that this sim doesn't suffer that nervous behavior that lots of MSFS aircraft suffer from. It seems like an actual heavy airliner. The horn in the end was annoying, but the collapsing gear was fun to watch.

[@surfshop7552]

I know It's a pre-release but cockpit textures doesn't look up to std at all, I'm getting p3d vibes. The kodiaks cockpit textures for eg looks much more realistic. I'm only saying this because pmdg was really going on about how good it looks, especially the cockpit images they released a while back looked much better.

[@A330Driver]

I can't quite agree, I think they are among the best we've seen to far. I think you might be getting P3D vibes because you've seen the same aircraft a lot in P3D and thus might associate it with it while you have probably never flown a Kodiak in P3D. Personally I'm feeling right at home in this cockpit, but then again I'm spending half my life in it... However that's only my personal impression. I can totally understand that other people will have other feelings.

[@peterspatz6918]

Guess you flying in Germany with this birdy, you are German pilot, right?

[@A330Driver]

Indeed I am!

[@chamibro9866]

How get this aircraft??

[@A330Driver]

Once it's released you can buy it from pmdg.com.

[@chamibro9866]

Thank u

[@argosmorningstar7482]

hi do you know if the pmdg plane is coming to Xbox? 😊

[@A330Driver]

As far as I know PMDG plans to release it on Xbox as well. However it will come a while after the PC release.

[@argosmorningstar7482]

@@A330Driver thanks for the reply. sounds very good. my last question to you between your thumb and forefinger when it comes to pc

[@firstander1961]

Will this be available for the Xbox?

[@A330Driver]

At some point in time - yes. However not on initial release.

[@sailwesterly5444]

Fantastic content. Immediate Subscribe. Could you please do EFATO next. Thank you.

[@A330Driver]

EFATO is definitely on my list, but I got a few others that I want to cover first. Bear with me and you can be sure it'll come!

[@sailwesterly5444]

@@A330Driver Great news and Thank you so much.

[@a.nelprober4971]

9:33 starts

[@ElitistMagi]

That landing! xD

[@A330Driver]

That caught me by surprise too! But as in the real aircraft: If you have one major malfunction you can never know if anything else might have been damaged so always be prepared for the unexpected.

[@MyEmpire91]

rendering of the cockpit is much better in P3D than here...sad

[@A330Driver]

I can't agree, I think it looks miles better in MSFS. The model is a lot more detailled as well.

[@blackjapanshorts41]

without seein replay with the outta part of the aircraft as well. it aint valad!

[@Krahamus]

They can't show damages, fires etc on any plane due to agreement.

[@A330Driver]

It's not just PMDG, I'm not aware of any FS aircraft that would model extensive exteriour damage.

[@hairsiluet]

I have seen the landing gear issue touchdown and I enjoyed so much! Looks fantastic realistic abnormal procedures!!! 🛬👏🏻👏🏻💪🏻

[@A330Driver]

Indeed, the unexpected malfunctions always provide the best learning experience! When you know what happens and which failure you have it's kinda easy. But if you don't know what's coming and it just happens you have the surprise and startle factor and then you actually first need to find out what's actually wrong before you can start.

[@hairsiluet]

@@A330Driver sure!!! 💪🏻

Heard how you mentioned using a force feedback yoke. I've been using the one reviewed in the clip linked below for many years now and it's truly awesome! Do be warned though before you watch the review, it will probably not be as appreciated by "she who must be obeyed" if you have one of those if she spots the price tag 😉 Before MSFS, I worked with Zibo and the developers at Brunner to make it work correctly with a hydraulic systern failure in the Zibo mod and it turned out really good! Using the yoke with no hydraulic pressure was a bit like a good workout 😁 Here's the review I mentioned: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y6DNkIWteZ5oZqs

[@A330Driver]

I'll have a look at it, thanks!

[@DarkKnight-bi7cr]

Lmao what the fuck kinda landing was that? Lmaoo

[@A330Driver]

One failure comes seldom alone. Always expect the unexpected. The only place where a major failure comes alone is the recurrent simulator ;-)

[@DarkKnight-bi7cr]

@@A330Driver Fucking Brilliant! I Love it!!!!!

[@personthatexists07]

blah blah blahhhh. just t a k e o f f, i don't need a whole essay about what a boeing 737-700 is if we already know

[@A330Driver]

One of the good things about videos on demand is that you can skip forward at any time you like ;-)