Just from the first Hadith, it says “the ninth of the Imams is the Qaim”, not the 9th of Imam Husayn (a.s.)’s descendants. Even Zayd ibn Ali (a.s.) and Isma’il ibn Ja’far (a.s.) have descendants to the 9th generations of Imam al-Husayn (a.s.). Just because of this mistranslation and your dishonesty (if intended), there is no need to cover all your other “proofs”.
@jeremycrawford40043 күн бұрын
Salvation and sonship are inseparable concepts according to Christianity, so for sonship to be available via eternal life, there must be a pre-existing Father, Son, and Spirit. The life of God is eternal, thus the need for the Holy Spirit, which IS the eternal life, as eternal life is in the Spirit. To receive this eternal life as a son or daughter you would have to receive it FROM the Son, who has this eternal life from His Father. The eternal Son would logically be the one to give this eternal life, and this would logically be the will of the eternal Father. Logically, this Son would be equal to the Father in terms of life, as salvation would be dependent on the Son, just as much as from the Father that would be the head of this family that becomes eternal. Logically, you would thereby honor this Son just as you would honor the Father. What did we just learn? Salvation and eternal sonship are entirely dependent on the eternal Son sent by the eternal Father to redeem mankind. In Christianity, we receive salvation THROUGH the eternal Sonship, and place our faith IN the eternal Sonship of God. If there was no pre-existing eternal sonship of God? Then the notion of salvation and sonship would all be metaphorical and Christianity would fail to exist as a logical belief system. All things were created by the Word of God, and all things are upheld by the Word of God, thereby logically all things would have to be redeemed by the Word of God if mankind fell into sin, and that creative and redemptive Word of God is the eternal Son, Jesus Christ. The fullness of the plan of God for His creation is bound up in the Son. Receive Christ, and receive the eternal will of God for your life, as there is no other way than faith in Jesus, the eternal Son. Hallelujah.
@morrisalfarezi24233 күн бұрын
@@jeremycrawford4004 assalamualaikum wr. Wb. Respectfully, dude, can you not? Like genuinely, if you want to teach others about Christianity, this is not how you do it. If anything, you're giving a bad image for christians. Love from your brother in humanity and a fellow lover of Jesus (peace be upon him)
@jeremycrawford40043 күн бұрын
@morrisalfarezi2423 The Father, Son, and Spirit are ONE in eternal and uncreated Life. I'll explain it again... Genesis chapter 1 verse 26 says "let US make man in OUR image" Is a father a person? Yes. Is a son a person? Yes. Is a spirit a person? Yes. One man can be a father to a son, a son to his father, and have an eternal spirit within. That's THREE persons, all played out by one being. It's a matter of sonship, and the message of the Trinity is the message of an eternal and uncreated sonship. Simple.
@archaic10263 күн бұрын
Just adding the word "logical" to your statements doesn't make them logical sir. Jesus Christ PBUH was a dependent, created being who worshipped the one and only God by prostrating on his face. Mark 14:35 and Matthew 26:39. I respectfully suggest you ask yourself: which of our religions pray like Jesus PBUH did?