8 reasons you need eucalyptus in your food forest

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Byron Grows

Byron Grows

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@alexnovac7203
@alexnovac7203 29 күн бұрын
Excellent content, I am in Romania, Usda zone 6 (we get bellow negative 20 C, even bellow negative 25 isn't uncommon, we get about 120 max frost free days), it is classified as a humid continental, average about 1000 mm precipitations/year, however in the last years our summers have been incredibly dry in the area where I live, add to it that we have heavy clay soils. Since our local marshy woodlands have been clearcut and drained, and local people have abandoned communal grazing of water buffalo, pigs and sheep in the "swampy oak savannah" and small plots of cultivated lands surrounded by trees and hedges, in favor of open spaced industrial monoculture the land has been pretty abused and become more and more degraded. I started my two small food forest less than three years ago and the trees are really growing slow. I have made many mistakes however I have planted in one food forest next to each fruit trees exactly the same kind of support species that have invasive behaviour every meter or so (sea buckthorn, black locust, pawlovnia). Also I have started living fences made from willow and siberian elm which will also have either black locust or honey locust as "living post" every 50 cm to be pollarded in rotation. In time they will provide multiple functions (habitat, wind break, mulch, fodder for my livestock, tree hay, material for making woodchips, compost, firewood, construction material, medicine, nectar for bees and other pollinators). I am thinking of adding eucalyptus to the system, the only species that I'm aware of to go well here is Eucalyptus gunni which is available for sale in nurseries. I have also planted a number of non native species which are doing quite well like autumn olive, silver berry, russian olive, siberian pea shrub, aronia, haskap, thorny black berries, goji, baloon berry, jujube which ironically are doing the best with these unpredictable weather changes, and they are also helping the native shrubs and fruit trees growing better. After watching your clip with the permaculture designer turned carnivore, I am tweaking my system to be even more in support of a animal based diet supplimented by fruit, berries, nuts, fermented vegetables, and chestnuts and acorns as carbs, with heavy focus on eggs, raw dairy and meat. That's why instead of adding some more cultivated strips between the tree rows I will be planting cold hardy clumping bamboo to use as mulch and livestock feed. We already have a mixed flock of chickens, turkeys, ducks, geese and guinea hens. We plan to get in the near future goats (for milk and meat), rabbits and quail (for meat and eggs). some sheep for milk and meat. We will be using the same primitive local breeds that are still used by the people in our country still practicing semi nomadic pastoralism. Cheers, and keep up the good work. Thanks for the inspiration. Take care.
@BlightStorm
@BlightStorm Ай бұрын
I work at a large plant nursery in Australia and sometimes they throw out perfectly usable trees if they're not growing how they want. I always take the chance to save them from death and I've been planting them in swales on my small front lawn. I've grown many eucalyptus varieties and I see them everyday. It's very interesting looking at the biomass and microclimate side of things because I've noticed completely different growth behaviours in the dense planting I did 1 year ago. I come from a Permaculture background but also living in Australia with hundreds of eucalypt species, I love to see people innovating with different applications for species many overlook.
@Richardiba
@Richardiba Ай бұрын
Well Eucalyptus is native to Australia unlike most other areas where it ends up being planted
@treevetales170
@treevetales170 Ай бұрын
I just bought 22 acres here in Australia. After fires in 2019 the property is now covered in acacia and eucalyptus. And they are native here.
@treevetales170
@treevetales170 Ай бұрын
I'm planting as many fruit trees as I can in amongst the acacia and eucalyptus. I'm able to immediately start chopping and dropping to feed my fruit trees. And they are sheltered from the heat and cold
@lynnmusonda1606
@lynnmusonda1606 Ай бұрын
I started my food forest here in Zambia last week 23/11/24 my first 30m tree line. Put in eucalyps every 2m. Thanks to your videos learning a lot. On the next tree line will be 1m apart. I need alot of biomass.
@NotQuiteOffGrid
@NotQuiteOffGrid 6 күн бұрын
Here in Madeira it is widespread too. Originally planted to grow paper and hundreds of years later it has taken over any space it can. We are turning our overgrown non native back to a diverse system but the driving force and huge biomass generator is the Acacia and Eucalyptus. Love it or hate it, it has taken over where humans burnt through the forest. And as a purchaser of some of that land I am grateful for its hardwood building capabilties. Slowly we will turn it into a food forest and re introduce diversity. Thankful for these to have held the landscape. Still hard to see so much land be taken up by the same tree.
@BluBeatle
@BluBeatle Ай бұрын
Bows low - Thanks for lifting ideas in this small mind , experiential knowledge is what I am seeking.
@sirnakerb209
@sirnakerb209 Ай бұрын
3. It is like saying salt is disgusting in your food when your dish only exists out of salt. If your dish consists of many things, salt will complement it well and helps bring out the taste of your other ingredients as well!
@SyntropicSchool
@SyntropicSchool Ай бұрын
Great summary, well done, Byron. Can definitely see a big difference in how you're trying to present your information lately.
@haleyaudiss
@haleyaudiss 24 күн бұрын
Just signed up! Love your videos, appreciate you!
@byrongrows
@byrongrows 23 күн бұрын
Awesome !
@kristofp72
@kristofp72 Ай бұрын
Prunus serotina is an invasive species in my country but what I have noticed is that it's mostly a problem in our monoculture pine forests. It's one of the only trees that grows in these monoculture pine forests. Yet somehow biologists say it's an invasive while actually it's filling a niche rehabilitating these artificial mono culture pine forests that aren't native here either. They also provide more food for birds and insects increasing diversity and life. It's time we have a different honest conversation about invasives.
@byrongrows
@byrongrows Ай бұрын
Great take ☝️
@Isaac-ho8gh
@Isaac-ho8gh Ай бұрын
According to a few sources on Wikipedia, its invasive in quite a lot of Europe so its likely not harmless in other European countries. Though, I know that large scale monoculture stupid.
@rob-in-peru
@rob-in-peru Ай бұрын
Superb! - a year ago you answered a question of mine about eucalyptus and this video takes it to the next level. I am convinced now to give it a try. Cheers!
@HalsPals
@HalsPals Ай бұрын
I have two mature Eucalyptus trees on my desert land less than 20 miles from Death Valley on the Nevada side. They are thriving while other species struggle. They are quite hardy as well surviving many strong wind storms.
@CarbonConscious
@CarbonConscious 27 күн бұрын
Great video, thanks for sharing 🔥
@smoovebrian
@smoovebrian Ай бұрын
What you said about choosing the right species of Eucalyptus is key here. Eucalypts range from cool temperate zones all the way up to the tropics - that's the potential for a lot of evolutionary diversity for one species. From my experience in southern Australia, the Eucalypts have evolved to thrive during hot, dry summers and generally low annual rainfall (400-600 mm) which may make them more competitive for water and nutrients than those up north. In temperate areas of higher rainfall, like east of Melbourne, you can get more diverse Eucalypt forests but the trees themselves can be gigantic, such as the Mountain Ash, and likely wouldn't be worth planting anywhere other than an unmanaged forest. From memory, Bill Molison said to get rid of Eucalypts due to their fire danger in 'Permaculture One', which was from the context of a cool temperate zone with low rainfall in Tasmania. Arguing against Bill Molison's wisdom is like fighting against the word of god for permaculturalists - so good luck with that! Lastly, I believe the jury is still out about the notion of Eucalypts being allelopathic. I can't remember where I read it, but I did read of a false correlation between the compounds in Eucalyptus leaves being poisonous and gardeners believing that they are also poisonous to plants (don't quote me on that). My theory is that the dense horizontal root mass of many mature Eucalyptus species found in temperate areas would cause any plant to struggle to grow due to competition for water and nutrients. Just my two cents...
@sonjaveda9832
@sonjaveda9832 Ай бұрын
That's intersting and makes sense. They grow fast too.
@CreciendoentreRocas
@CreciendoentreRocas Ай бұрын
U gave me the confidence to plant Eucaliptus 8 months ago, best decision of my life for my agroforestry system 💪🏻🌱
@byrongrows
@byrongrows Ай бұрын
Legend! Loved seeing your progress in our recent Fellowship call 🔥
@albertoscatto5796
@albertoscatto5796 Ай бұрын
another reason to add is that the monoculture of eucalyptus is highly inflammable so when there's some drought and everything is dry the risks of having fires are higher, causing distruction all around.- Here in the southern Ecuador we're fighting against some wild (induced) fires that are destroying some beautiful valleys, el parque Podocarpus,working there as improvised firefighter is exhausting and harmful and dangerous. To sum it up I really liked the content of this really well explained video whose reasonscrystal clear! thanks for all these pcs of info and looking forward to see the pruning, now it's time the see what kind of land I can work on...
@missbluerain
@missbluerain 15 күн бұрын
I have a 1/4 acre section in the bottom of the north island and ive been building a back yard food forest for the last 4 years. Now my fruit tree are in I've been adding medicinal plants. I wanted eucalyptus but didnt have the space for a tree. Then i discovered bush varieties. I bought one called baby blue. It originates from tasmania and is also used in flower bouquets as well as medicinal properties. So yeah just thought i'd point out that there are bush variety options.
@tamakoa-homestead
@tamakoa-homestead 23 күн бұрын
Very interesting indeed! I agree with biversity, however, I will never ant one due to the fire risk. It's not about monocumture, it's about resin and how flammable they are. Embers falling into these trees will set them alight, much like pines, which means irrespective of the surrounding trees this tree open to doors for new fires to start far away from the original fire. That said I am in a high fire risk area and I'm planting water berry and deciduous trees as aerial firebreaks inside the ground firebreaks to catch embers before they make it somewhere else. Also remember that once a Eucalyptus catches fire it can burn for more than 2 months and no amount of water will put it out 🌻
@TheVigilantStewards
@TheVigilantStewards 3 күн бұрын
I planted some blue gum ones in my system last year that have like white film on them and circular leaves as well as the eucalyptus Saligna. The blue gums went in after and are growing way better and faster, despite the Saligna supposedly doing well in the area. I planted leucaena and gliricida as support species and the leucaena are far out performing the gliricidia.
@sizercam
@sizercam Ай бұрын
Interesting that there's no mention of wattles in the system. They last about 15 years and are nitrogen fixers. Only difference is that they don't grow as tall as gums, but grow quicker
@byrongrows
@byrongrows Ай бұрын
Love wattles. Use tons of them myself and have similar observations - This was just a eucalyptus specific one
@southernrainforest
@southernrainforest Ай бұрын
Yes Blackwoods, A melanoxylon are a fantastic pioneer and secondary tree
@DJ-uk5mm
@DJ-uk5mm Ай бұрын
Wow. Fantastic video Great energy my friend
@annburge291
@annburge291 Ай бұрын
Greening the Desert Project, Jordan, Geoff Lawton chopped down the existing eucalyptus, used it as biomass, but then planted a huge number of nitrogen fixing trees to open up the crumbly rock and two years later, most of the prickly trees were cut down and fruit trees like fig, pomegranate, date, prickly pear, citrus were planted. Geoff Lawton said that the allopathic side of established eucalyptus would affect the growth of future fruit trees. I'm an expat Australian living in dry lands Chihuahua Mexico. I've never experienced eucalyptus being planted at the same time as fruit trees. Usually the native Australian planting is in certain areas and not so much in the food forest. Your idea is interesting.
@halnelson5936
@halnelson5936 Ай бұрын
Maybe you can plant some of the eucalyptus a bit after your fruit trees as they will overpass them and grow faster
@pietsnot7002
@pietsnot7002 Ай бұрын
Like you just wrote, it’s the old trees that slow down growth around them, Scott Hall explains that as the effect of senecence.. Keep pruning and releasing that giberilin into the soil 🌱🌳🌴🌾☘️🪲🐞🕷🪳🦋🐛🐌🐦🦉
@shellythie6227
@shellythie6227 Күн бұрын
Are they still good to use if you're in the desert?
@byrongrows
@byrongrows 5 сағат бұрын
If they grow where you are !
@tahliel
@tahliel Ай бұрын
Ive got 8 gum trees Id rather not have in/near my veg garden. I use the leaves in my paths because nothing grows. My beds are full of roots. Nothing grows well under them. I have to water every day. Even well managed trees will be 50 years old in 50 years, with 50 year old root systems. I love the shade they bring. I love the birds theyre home to. I love how they look. But I wouldnt purposely plant them anywhere near a productive garden
@Darkfyre755
@Darkfyre755 Ай бұрын
As an aussie (QLD) with lots of local eucalypt species, does anyone have any resources for figuring out whether a local species is a monocalypt or not? I would think it'd be best to use a local species in your systems right?
@byrongrows
@byrongrows Ай бұрын
Generally monocalypts have rough bark, single cap covering the flower and found in cooler climates, vs smooth bark and double flower cap in arid or semi-arid habitat symphomyrts
@davidsmith9189
@davidsmith9189 Ай бұрын
Look up 'Living Atlas of Australia'. You can quickly find what is in your area, then read about each species. They vary in many ways between species as far as how useful and dangerous they are. In Qld it is often illegal under state and/or council laws to cut the main trunk of a eucalyptus (or any native tree). As a general rule it is a terrible idea to plant them, unless you know you can kill or coppice it whenever you want. Not saying you should never ever plant them, just it is often a terrible idea. Also you should certainly only use local species, or very carefully select the exact species and research it well. many species are far worse pests than others and should not be introduced to new areas.
@stevewarnock919
@stevewarnock919 Ай бұрын
So grateful to see this today
@finnkelcher5558
@finnkelcher5558 Ай бұрын
Great vid Byron! I hope this will convince the world of the importance and value of eucalyptus. I am a bit late in planting them at my place. But now its all about the eucalyptus. Funnily enough natives grow quite well here on the wet west coast tree tutu is very fast and great for chop n drop. So biomass isnt my main reason for planting eucalyptus. Shelter and durable timber are the main ones for me. The plan for my garden is to have seasonal eucalyptus canopy protecting fruit trees ect during the wet and stormy winter and spring, prune them hard in late spring when the climate is friendlier, to let full sun into the understory and limit their drying effects for the dryest months then they can re grow and do it all again. I would say that there are durable and fast growing species in both monocalypts and symphomyrts groups.
@byrongrows
@byrongrows Ай бұрын
Sounds like you've got a great system in place. Looking forward to seeing the results!
@costacheliviumarian2516
@costacheliviumarian2516 Ай бұрын
Can you show a closer picture of your eucalipts, i live in dublin ireland and in ta city are mani eucalits of diferent size shapes and coloures and i dont know what variety they are and maybe you can help, thank you
@Galoot613
@Galoot613 Ай бұрын
Thanks, I often thought this about eucalyptus & it's role. Nice to hear it explained.
@TheBarefootedGardener
@TheBarefootedGardener Ай бұрын
I found this video because of the algorithm, but I love eucalyptus because it smells fantastic and it’s a beautiful tree. But I’m in New York so I need the most cold Hardy of them!
@byrongrows
@byrongrows Ай бұрын
Black Locust would be a great choice for you in NY (deciduous)
@JacobPermacultureWizard
@JacobPermacultureWizard Ай бұрын
Good info here mate I’ll be using a few of these points with the old blokes on the farms I’ll be working with soon 👌
@Littlewoods_permaculture
@Littlewoods_permaculture 9 күн бұрын
Hey Byron I have grown a small forest of Sydney blue gums, swamp mahogany and rose gum and spotted gum. I want to add European trees in the mix. Do you think they can grow amongst these Australian natives without irrigation ? I get btw 800-1000 mls rain per year. Sandy soils low in nutrients . I planted it bc the wind shear coming off the coast regularly shook our windows and was blowing all the petals off my plants and drying the soil. That was ten years ago. It provides amazing shade but am wondering if I should thin it out and add more fire retardant and different varieties of species. We’ve put in a syntropic section in July and are amazed how much all trees like growing near bamboo. It’s crazy
@nickwalchli
@nickwalchli Ай бұрын
Been hoping for a deep dive in to eucys for a while thanks for the info! I have a question, my yard where I hope to start a food forest already has scattered eucalyptus all through it, they are all mature full size trees I imagine would cost a fortune to clear, about 1/3 an acre and about 12-15 full size trees and like you say soil health is very low, question is can I start a food forest here without removing them, there seems to be a good amount of light still getting to the ground. Cheers
@SyntropicSchool
@SyntropicSchool Ай бұрын
If I can offer some advice, if you're hoping to apply Syntropic principals, which I assume you are if you're asking Byron, then having them heavily pruned would be beneficial. This would mean you would have a significant amount of material to feed back to the system you'd be planting. The reason for this is because these mature trees would have a large area of influence. Planting young plants and seedlings around them, even if they are allowing light to come through would generally have quite an detrimental effect, as they are at a completely different stage of life, potentially having a "senescent" affect.
@Zahnstantinople
@Zahnstantinople 29 күн бұрын
I'm in Southern California. We have the Euc's but perhaps more pervasive are the peppers (Schinus molle). Wouls this same video hold up if we substituted pepper for euc?
@tcoxor52
@tcoxor52 Ай бұрын
Eucalyptus doesn’t really grow in my temperate PNW region. My support trees of choice for biomass are Shipmast Black Locust, Smooth Sumac, hybrid Poplar (OP-367), and Paulownia kawakamii (far less invasive than P. tomentosa). And just like Eucs, all three require active management or they can and will get out of control and can easily take over the land.
@morganchance9723
@morganchance9723 Ай бұрын
Hey Byron, Thanks for this lesson. Really good topic and content. I've just bought a place in SE QLD (Aus) with a fairly slopey few acres - mix of open ground and established / tall flooded gums. Be keen to hear your thoughts on approaches to building a syntropic agroforest in amongst them. My plan so far is to establish in the open areas and then slowly encroach into the wooded parts. I can't clear the established trees because they are a home for a large colony of cockatoos.
@RameshYadav-td4se
@RameshYadav-td4se 26 күн бұрын
Hi Byron, this is Ramesh here from Bangalore, India. Will melia dubia serve similar to eucalyptus to provide a canopy and apart from tolerating heavy pruning ?
@DTolen
@DTolen Ай бұрын
I've seen a study made in Brazil, showing eucalyptus actually have a huge concentration of sugars on its nectar, and it's ideal for bees. Brazilians also have an eucalyptus that flourishes all year round.
@truesight91
@truesight91 Ай бұрын
Eucalyptus makes some of the best medicine and medicinal honey in the world. Jarrah honey from Western Australia is a great example, far stronger in than Manuka and others.
@666bruv
@666bruv 11 күн бұрын
Peppermint are more suitable for this situation, can be pruned and hedged, and don't drop large limbs compared to globulus and stringy bark
@danielnaberhaus5337
@danielnaberhaus5337 Ай бұрын
Theres a species specific chicken of the woods mushroom that grows on eucs. Super yummy.
@antoni9386
@antoni9386 Ай бұрын
I just love your channel, cant ever get enough knowledge. Its just beautiful what you created and you show us everything with examples. Unfortunately I live in Europe zone 5B and i dont think any eucalyptus specie will survive in our climate and the closest tree i found to take its role is Poplar or some species of Willow but I am super curious if there are any other trees to speed up the process becouse I plan to make Agroforestry big in our country and finaly spread some alternative for industrial agriculture. Thank you for everything you do I will continue to follow you and support all people who spread this knowledge, I would be super grateful for any tips and species that may be useful in my climate( our winters get us to -20 Celsius, rarely more and last from December to March)
@byrongrows
@byrongrows Ай бұрын
Poplar and Willow are fantastic, I’d also look at Black Locust & alder as good options. For evergreen trees, you might consider pine varieties
@antoni9386
@antoni9386 Ай бұрын
@@byrongrows Thank you soo much, I started using Black Locust this year and wow its growing soo fast even in degraded soil, it is also a great source of nectar for my bees so I will be planting more for sure I just wonder how they will deal with our winter but that is why we experiment. As for pine how do you manage it becouse they grow very thick and I am afraid they will choke other species if we plant them as dense as we do in Agroferestry, I know you can prune the lower branches but the way they grow seems like a struggle to maintain especially with fruit trees next to them and I wonder if they would be more beneficial then harmful.
@byrongrows
@byrongrows Ай бұрын
@ they’ll get cut out before becoming detrimental. Same as the eucs
@hectorlogronho
@hectorlogronho Ай бұрын
Try Leyland cypress
@justinarnold7725
@justinarnold7725 Ай бұрын
As an Australian I agree with this but would like to add that Wattles are really good as well for these purposes
@byrongrows
@byrongrows Ай бұрын
Absolutely - Use tons of wattles in my systems too. Will make a vid dedicated to all my fav support species
@FM-qm5xs
@FM-qm5xs Ай бұрын
I much prefer things like wattles and she oak. They serve the same purpose. They are fast growing on poor soils. Gum trees belong on steep rocky slopes where they suck up every drop of water when it rains. There might be a few instances when they are useful but in general there are usually other plants that could be used that don't have the problems gums have.
@gryspnikngrysp2821
@gryspnikngrysp2821 28 күн бұрын
Allelopathy is NOT chemical "competition" amongst plants. In order for something to count as allelopathy all these conditions have to be met. 1. A pattern of inhibition (or association) of one species by another species must be present. 2. The putative donor plant must produce biologically active substances. 3. The putative donor must have a mode of release of allelochemicals into the environment. 4. There must be a mode of allelochemical transport and/or accumulation in the environment. 5. The receiver plant must have some means of allelochemical uptake. 6. The observed symptoms and pattern of growth cannot be explained solely by physical or other biotic factors, such as competition or herbivory.
@3Sphere
@3Sphere Ай бұрын
Great stuff, Maynard! :) Now I'm researching eucalyptus for my upcoming Permaculture food forest in my ongoing quest to wrap my head around the whole Permaculture paradigm- an almost infinite task! I do have some visceral knowledge of the tree having once lived in a eucalyptus forest on a ranch in California. It's so dense and heavy that a 4" diameter branch (which they do tend to shed at unpredictable times and for unknown reasons) will absolutely KILL you dead if it falls on your head. Also, if you drive a VW Bug and blue gum bark has unknowingly fallen and wrapped its self on your bumper, a cop WILL pull you over for the whole suspiciousness of dragging the bark around as you drive... Heh. I also know that 'Red Gum' euc (deeply furrowed red bark unlike the blue- there may be many varieties with the name red gum, dunno- I gotta find out because I want some more!) eucalyptus makes the most amazing, beautiful, crimson, subtly varied, and iron-hard lumber I've ever come across. Very interesting video! Thanks for sharing, man!!!
@nikolasr96
@nikolasr96 Ай бұрын
Which Eukalyptus trees should I plant?I live in Europe and I didn’t find so much variety? Thank for your help
@1xDRCx
@1xDRCx Ай бұрын
Probably none! All this advice is region specific. Europe is very far outside Eucalyptus native range, your best bet is to learn about your native trees because those will grow the best in your area and provide the most value.
@lowtech_1
@lowtech_1 Ай бұрын
Some will handle snow, but not long cold winters. Would depend were you are.
@Norbingel
@Norbingel Ай бұрын
I don't know where to get eucalyptus where I'm from. I'm using mulberry for biomass instead and it's amazing. I'm having a hard time imagining eucalyptus is better at biomass and hardiness
@byrongrows
@byrongrows Ай бұрын
Mulberry is great for biomass. Very different to eucalyptus though - Different strata/lifecycle. Would plant both (eucs can be bought from many online forestry nurseries)
@Norbingel
@Norbingel Ай бұрын
@@byrongrows I live in a 3rd world tropical country. I've search online and there's only eucs oil XD
@stevewarnock919
@stevewarnock919 Ай бұрын
Ive literally just moved to a spot with native eucalyptus everywhere. Its river clay pan, hopeful i can relocate some natives to try this
@nmda9578
@nmda9578 Ай бұрын
Eucalyptus trees are going to play a big part in restoring the degraded land I bought in Arizona. It was once a diverse ecosystem, but they bulldozed it and left the ground bare for decades. Very little topsoil left.
@byrongrows
@byrongrows Ай бұрын
Cactus will be your best friend
@JamesinCalifornia
@JamesinCalifornia Ай бұрын
They tend to strip the soils of important nutrients & minerals from my experience with agriculture lands in California, they tend to be the most degraded and difficult lands to restore after the fact. So learn from the experience of those who have grown them as wind breaks and found out the hard way afterwards.
@byrongrows
@byrongrows Ай бұрын
I’m assuming based on your comment that you didn’t watch the video
@juhaszsc
@juhaszsc 29 күн бұрын
Eucalyptus that were commonly planted in rural california are incredibly flammable and are on the list of trees that fire departments and insurers have banned. Certain species are also highly invasive.
@MyLoganTreks
@MyLoganTreks Ай бұрын
Insanely invasive here in Florida and they have outcompeted thousands of acres of natural habitat for native species, I'm sure this happens around the world when I rather be reforesting with the native species, I'm just a biologist what do I know just makes more sense to create diversity with natives
@byrongrows
@byrongrows Ай бұрын
Novel ecosystems (natives + exotics) are more biodiverse than simply using natives for reforestation. But conventional ecologists aren't ready for that conversation
@alcohonis
@alcohonis Ай бұрын
Am in South Florida, what can you recommend as a substitute?
@byrongrows
@byrongrows Ай бұрын
@@alcohonis Corymbia
@nisios
@nisios Ай бұрын
Its ilegal to plant them here in my place
@onurio316
@onurio316 Ай бұрын
@@byrongrows Do you have any reading material on this subject? Specifically on biodiversity comparisons?
@TudorFarms
@TudorFarms Ай бұрын
The problem is western societies reductionist viewpoint. Thanks for the awesome video, Byron. Im thoroughly enjoying all of your content.
@watchourgardenfruitfarmdev-k1s
@watchourgardenfruitfarmdev-k1s 29 күн бұрын
of course!
@swiss_arborist_barmetbaump3817
@swiss_arborist_barmetbaump3817 Ай бұрын
In contrast to other specias eucalyptus have very thik iner bark i asume this is used for energy storage and regrow after fire. How big is the difference in regrowing capability with in a species? I asume this can be selected quite easily in many species. Maybe it's enough to crosspolenate two tres with god regrow and some of there seedlings will have drasticli incresed capability.
@shrimuyopa8117
@shrimuyopa8117 Ай бұрын
It's a little too cold for me to put in Eucalyptus trees in my area. I have tried some silver dollar Eucalyptus trees, but most of them died very quickly. I only have one left, lol. I have been using saw tooth oak as a support species.
@mundotazo
@mundotazo Ай бұрын
We have trees in the desert, mostly legumes.
@Rio-8a
@Rio-8a Ай бұрын
I have allergies to Eucalyptus polen 😢
@halnelson5936
@halnelson5936 Ай бұрын
If there are no bad species what do you say about the Ailanthus?
@toddberkely6791
@toddberkely6791 Ай бұрын
constant camera cuts make me motion sick lol
@shellythie6227
@shellythie6227 Күн бұрын
Right!? I've never understood why people do that! One camera, one view is all that we need!
@tomatito3824
@tomatito3824 Ай бұрын
"Bad species don't exist" *Gleditsia Triacanthos joins the chat* If you want a personal challenge, try to find a way to manage this tree from hell and you will save thousands of hectares in Argentina. This tree doesn't care about anyone or anything, it just grows and propagates, ruining fields, closing roads, destroying fences and tires, and maiming cute wild animals. It's a billion dollar opportunity, and a fast-track to the agroecology hall of fame. Permaculturists: "Oh honey locust is a pioneer so it will just go away after its job is done". No here it won't, it will stay and propagate and lit your property on fire, and then it will resprout and claim the property as its own.
@Isaac-ho8gh
@Isaac-ho8gh Ай бұрын
Exactly.
@davidsmith9189
@davidsmith9189 Ай бұрын
Eucalyptus is a horrible plant in most situations, if it is not controlled (Which would also require you never let it produce seed). Although I agree about many of the things in the video, planting eucalyptus is extremely irresponsible if it is not already established in your area. I'm also not opposed to introducing exotic species as a general rule.
@Isaac-ho8gh
@Isaac-ho8gh Ай бұрын
@@davidsmith9189 yep, that too. I doubt this KZbinr cares about the environment since he's stupid enough to recklessly plant Eucalyptus which is pretty invasive in some of the Americas!
@TheBarefootedGardener
@TheBarefootedGardener Ай бұрын
The entire point of this video is to say that proper management of species is how you prevent them from turning into nightmares… Whether it’s eucalyptus or honey locust or anything else that’s not native to your area and used as a pioneer…
@tomatito3824
@tomatito3824 Ай бұрын
​@@TheBarefootedGardener So you are saying it's ok for an entire region having to rely on your "proper management" of an invasive species and making sure not a single seed gets eaten by a bird?
@bundydryandlime
@bundydryandlime Ай бұрын
Attracts delicious koalas 😋
@byrongrows
@byrongrows Ай бұрын
Forbidden fruit
@lowtech_1
@lowtech_1 Ай бұрын
There alot of types of eucalyptus, there not all the same , there's maybe 700 types. People speak as if there one tree 😂 Some are rubbish timber even for fire wood. Some are fantastic timber but only really about 50 of that 700.
@joshua-jm7kf
@joshua-jm7kf Ай бұрын
Great video. Please work on slowing down your speech ❤
@brandonwilson5816
@brandonwilson5816 Ай бұрын
You can slow down the speed in your settings. I actually like his fast speed.
@000RAndrzzz
@000RAndrzzz Ай бұрын
Yeah, this dude didn't waste one word. Nigh zero mistakes. Speed doesn't matter if you are flawless :P
@ShirleyHardyAu
@ShirleyHardyAu Ай бұрын
I feel so sorry for you believing this about Eucalyptus trees. Here are some actual facts about Eucalyptus trees, from an Australian, who knows how they grow and endure with fire, droughts, etc and experience them on a daily basis because I'm surrounded by them all the time. There are over 700 different species of Eucalyptus trees, growing in every type of climate in Australia. It does not matter where or how they grow, you will regret planting them further down the line. They are trees from hell, designed to self proliferate, to set the landscape on fire and to kill everything in the process. When a bushfire breaks out, if planted enmasse, the gum trees will create embers which blow ahead of the fires and will start new fires. The embers can travel several kilometres ahead of a bushfire carried by hot winds. It is called an ember attack. The entire Eucalypt tree is flammable, including the oil, and fire is how it rejuvenates itself. A regular bushfire is hot as hell but when Eucalypts catch on fire, the bushfire is as hot as the surface of the sun and often creates crown fires that can travel as high as 60 metres or more above the tree tops. It can also create pyrocumulus clouds during a bushfire which can create another source of fire. It takes a huge amount of extreme temperature to actually burn a Eucalypt tree to a crisp, to kill it. A regular fire will just give it a slight burn. Their leaves are hard to burn. The thicker their bark the more resistant they are to bushfires. Oil is released from the tree when it senses rain is coming, so the entire sky/air can turn blue with enough Eucalypt trees in the area. That blue air is flammable and you can see it with the naked eye. They do NOT release water from their leaves, only oil. It is not cooler in the shade of a Eucalyptus tree, if anything, it'll be hotter than being in the sun especially if there is no wind. It is just shadier than being in the hot sun because they are no longer a rainforest tree. Eucalypts never stop growing. In the dead of winter when everything is dormant, Eucalypts still grow. They are always growing and always sucking up water from the ground water. Their leaves take 10 or more years to decompose and are toxic to most other plants. Their wood is useless for using as building material at a young age. A tree has to be at least 100 - 200 years old before harvesting it for timber, and then it has to be specially treated. Growing these trees overseas will cause serious health problems with your native wildlife, more than likely killing them because unless you have native Australian birds and Australian possums and sugar gliders where you live, nothing will eat their nectar except for pollinators (bees and wasps and fruit bats). And then there is their ability to self seed and if there is a lot more rain in your part of the world than down here in Australia, you will have a very hard time getting rid of them, when they grow bigger, when they take over the landscape, kill off all your native and exotic plants and turn the soil into a barren wasteland with no nutrients in it. It is what they do because that is how they survive, to ensure their offspring can grow without competition from other plant species. Not much grows under Eucalypt trees, mostly Acacia trees, a few other native trees, and some grasses and ferns and some wildflowers. Cutting a Eucalypt tree for use as mulch will stunt it's growth and probably will shorten it's lifespan. If not killing it after 50 years. If done annually, it won't live very long or will be prone to disease. You're best to let the tree grow to it's full height. Once big enough it will drop enough leaves on a daily basis, and over time, tree branches. Yes, they can and do drop entire tree branches and quite randomly too. Those mature branches are extremely super heavy, dense wood. It most commonly happens here when there's a sudden change in weather when icy winds start blowing. The main diseases of Eucaypts are caused by fungi and some insects, and if the seasons have been hotter than normal, dieback can occur. Most gum trees do not recover from dieback. It will take 2-3 years for the survivors to come back to life and begin to regrow again. A few years back we had entire mountains of Eucalypts die from dieback. Only a small handful survived after 3 years.
@tevaalcindor
@tevaalcindor Ай бұрын
Eucalyptus is an aggressively invasive species in many areas, so best not to grow it. Or be extremely careful in your cultivation. My opinion native species is the only thing with any business on solid ground.
@byrongrows
@byrongrows Ай бұрын
Apples are from Kazakhstan. It’s okay to have your opinions, I can’t force you to be right
@rojblake-fk3cu
@rojblake-fk3cu Ай бұрын
OK, as an Australian who does food forests. Dont listen to this. People THINK they can get away with eucalypts in these situations, until the first fire. Every time, every place, be it Australia, Portugal, Brazil or California, you WILL get hard burned out when the fires come, and you're begging the fires to come. You clearfell every eucalpypt, then you plant. I'm not a nativist, and I'm very pragmatic about diverse trees. If you want things that will give you most of these benefits there are plenty of other things that will do this without being strongly allelopathic and insanely flammable. A lot of them are so fire dependent that the seeds wont even germinate without burning or smoking. Someone has to warn people before this idiot gets more people killed. Yes, that happens regularly here, because city idiots want a 'home amongst the gum trees'.
@byrongrows
@byrongrows Ай бұрын
Womp womp
@hectorlogronho
@hectorlogronho Ай бұрын
You are the idiot bro
@maxwellbarrett
@maxwellbarrett Ай бұрын
This guy recommends invasive species because the grow quick. If any single one of his clients doesnt manage these pests extreemly well, if they sell, move, die. they will escape and infest the surrounding wilderness. There are plenty of exotic quick growing soil fixers that are NOT invasive, just be realistic about what you can control and do NOT plant what you cant manage. Theres no grey area. Youre either a great gardener or an ecological crimminal
@byrongrows
@byrongrows Ай бұрын
Adding ecological criminal to my resume
@maxwellbarrett
@maxwellbarrett Ай бұрын
@@byrongrows I was talking about your clients. I know you’re being flippant but it’s ugly, I have deal to the pest species irresponsible people leave to destroy vulnerable ecosystem. Thanks mate
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