Having carried the Arc for a little while now, I have some thoughts on how Leatherman can improve this multi tool. If you have ideas on how to improve upon this tool, I would love to hear them. www.kristenvanpatten.com/
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@edwardfletcher77903 ай бұрын
This video perfectly critiques Leathermans confoundingly frustrating product design choices 👍
@paulbyland3 ай бұрын
Eyeroll
@davidkay13863 ай бұрын
Glad to see your back. I’ve missed watching your videos.
@txtoolcrib3 ай бұрын
I appreciate that!
@michaelmartin22623 ай бұрын
I work offshore on anchor vessels, and I have enjoyed the Arc immensely. I also did add some customization to mine. I replaced the can opener with a comb from zapwizard. Zapwizard also does the extra bit storage mentioned in the video. I was also debating replacing the micro bit driver as well until I realized how useful it was for pressing the reset button on electrical components and for the security latches on the vessels papertowel dispensers.
@alaskatosweden99423 ай бұрын
I’m a 2/M on a tanker. I’ve been debating getting the arc, but I didn’t know how stainless the rest of the tool components would be (aside from the Magnacut blade). How has your rust been?
@bogdan_d823 ай бұрын
All of them rust in sea water, if you're worried about that just rinse the tool in regular water after use and put some Ballistol or WD-40 on it, I also work on ships and I just regularly clean my tools to prevent rust, my worries are not to drop the tools overboard or in the bilge 😅 not to mention that some tools disappear on ships 😂
@michaelmartin22623 ай бұрын
@alaskatosweden9942 I have had my Arc for about 4 months and haven't had any rust issues whatsoever. I will say if you sweat alot from the job to where you sweat through your pants you may consider sheathe carry. While home, I pocket carry, and when at work, I use a belt sheath. Before the Arc I had the Signal for two years as a straight pocket carry, and only rust came from a Chinese implement that I swapped the saw out for, and the inside can opener mainly due pocket carry over the environment in my opinion.
@unitedstatesirie74313 ай бұрын
My 3 favorite multi-tools are the Leatherman BOND and the small $6 Cabela's multi-tool and the Victorinox JETSETTER. All 3 of these multi-tools will function with the optional Leatherman removable bit driver !
@Spanky84023 ай бұрын
I was surprised and happy to see a new video from you. 😀 I wish Leatherman would add the Rev package opener to the Rebar and put the Bond plier head on, then add the holes for the pocket clip. It would be awesome to have it in the Arc, just like you said. I hope they do all of this.
@3wheelmannc8603 ай бұрын
Fantastic, well thought out ideas on needed improvements or at least options.
@uzbeck20063 ай бұрын
Also Kristen has an excellent customer service! 5 star!
@kristenvanpatten38543 ай бұрын
Always love your videos Ben! Thanks for mentioning my designs.
@txtoolcrib3 ай бұрын
Absolutely sir. I’ve been pretty busy lately, but I love to highlight makers that produce products I like.
@Enemy_of_Them3 ай бұрын
Have to say that your videos are really informative. Well done!
@txtoolcrib3 ай бұрын
Thank you
@robertdufour2456Ай бұрын
So happy to see this video!
@butterboyreviews32773 ай бұрын
I’ll never understand why leatherman doesn’t have a utility knife setup on their multi tools. I carry a rebar or OHT and a separate utility knife daily. It would make life so much better to have it in one package.
@danieljennagrouse3 ай бұрын
ZapWizard sells a 3D printed version of the proposed bit holder (Barnacle Bit Holder)
@txtoolcrib3 ай бұрын
I checked out his video after seeing this, thank you.
@shawnlavigne90693 ай бұрын
Yes, a dedicated tool to open packages, especially the plastic clamshell stuff.
@Spolt_main3 ай бұрын
I don't buy that much of that stuff, but I think the magnacut package opener works great. 😅
@S85B50EngineАй бұрын
On the Q&A they said you can use the main blade, reamer and can opener for that.
@ekkorito93873 ай бұрын
Nah we all want premium SURGE cpm magnacut knife blade
@txtoolcrib3 ай бұрын
I know I certainly do.
@stevefaiello33213 ай бұрын
I couldn't agree more about the can opener - why Leatherman replaced their standard multifunction can opener with the single purpose one they have on the whole Free family makes zero sense. I'd also like to see a 3D Phillips like you get on the Rebar/Super Tool because it can accommodate a separate bit adapter and gives you much more reach than the built in one. On the other side of the tool you could have the Free P2/P4 flat head/pry bar/box cutter, an awl, and maybe the package opener (or the Free mini file if they're doing an Arc style P2). Well, that's how I'd do an upgraded P2 or P4 at least. You'd probably want to keep the built in bit drivers for the Arc since people love them as premium features.
@w00ey213 ай бұрын
Its good to see you back!! I know its been said ad nauseam, but Leatherman would completely own the market if they used a true 1/4inch bit driver
@Genesis9923 ай бұрын
I would absolutely LOVE to swap the saw for the serrated blade the P4 has
@txtoolcrib3 ай бұрын
That one should be pretty easy to do.
@michaelfuentes81013 ай бұрын
i'd love to see the micro bit driver replaced with a flat 4mm bit driver. they could bake a full bit kit for it too. i'd use it very often for electronics repairs. or i saw in an old leatherman patent that they've been thinking of adding a exacto blade holder into the micro driver. i think this would be a great addition. (though flat 4mm bits would be just perfect) love your videos, have a nice day!
@sztaylor893 ай бұрын
I like all your ideas except widening the bottle opener. I prefer to keep it straight shanked to access deep screws. Your idea for the package opener and wire stripper combo is my favorite that I might have to try to make
@txtoolcrib3 ай бұрын
That’s a valid point.
@ricbar26843 ай бұрын
"The Surge is King". thanks for the great video. I was thinking about getting the Arc but as an aircraft mechanic I still think the Surge is better option. I just wish it had a cutting hook at the end of the serrated blade
@txtoolcrib3 ай бұрын
For your job, I would definitely agree. Of course, I’m biased though.
@cwsmith173 ай бұрын
Greatest multi tool IMO for what I need.
@webb-cast10303 ай бұрын
I never could figure out why Leatherman doesn't have a custom shop division. Why let other people make money customizing their tools? An a la carte menu for each chassis coupled with sheath options for it would be a game changer. The possibilities would be endless. This would open the market to people who wouldn't have considered a Leatherman otherwise. A few examples of the people that aren't usually multi-tool consumers, but would buy a custom model are compound bow hunters and mountain bikers.
@HBSuccess3 ай бұрын
100%.
@LaResistenciaEDC3 ай бұрын
Because they let the fanbase do the work and produce a slightly more mediocre version like it was some kind of revolution (plus taxes...) to keep them busy and the loop keeps looping, so is the fanbase. Perfect business plan ^^
@knifetrain31183 ай бұрын
Zap Wizzard already makes some of the accessories you’re talking about.
@funkytizzletelevizzl3 ай бұрын
My garage005 has a decent package opener function. And I really have to say how much I miss spring loaded pliers. Carry my garage everyday and just touched my old trusty wave yesterday. Really strange feeling when you wait for the plier to open….
@pmichaelsonjr3 ай бұрын
Zap Wizard already makes his “barnacle bit holder” that attached to the screw holes on the outside of the tool.
@txtoolcrib3 ай бұрын
I went and checked out his video on it after another viewer commented on it.
@Claudius_Nero3 ай бұрын
The one thing I'd like is if they would eliminate the one hand opening slot cut into the file. It makes the fille easier to open but much worse in use, always catching on whatever you're filing. I know the entire point of the Free series is to exchange some actual usefullness to gain more ease of use in order to appeal to fidget spinner types, but the file on the wave\surge\charge all open just fine without the cutout and function much better. Other than that, agree with Ben on the tiny driver holder and dedicated can opener as being not the most....ideal uses of those impliment slots. Maybe if they ever introduce a 4.5" heavy duty version they can swing the pendulem back into the Surge's direction of functionality over form.
@iainhardwick12233 ай бұрын
Hi, you absolutely ‘hit the nail on the head’ with this video 😂, I’ve said before…… I don’t understand why the don’t listen to guys like you, who actually use these tools on a regular basis. Their design in the tool-set is ALL the same. They need to change it. Why spend £/$ 250 on the ARC when a Charge will do. You could’nt have said a truer word in your video. Well done 👍😎
@bogdan_d823 ай бұрын
Great ideas, but the file and the chisel don't go good together because they have different heat treatments, the chisel is supposed to be more elastic to sustain mechanical shock while the file should have greater hardness, if they go back to the old design of the can opener you already have a decent package opener, that's what i use on my Wave+. And if they actually remove the small bit holder, i would like to have that great combo tool from Victorinox with chisel, package opener and a wire stripper 😊
@txtoolcrib3 ай бұрын
That would be excellent as well, though I doubt Leatherman would ever copy Victorinox quite so blatantly.
@CJ_Cornhole3 ай бұрын
Great video Ben and don't get me wrong I love the arc. But I'm still hopefull that eventually the will do another remake of the KING 🤴..time for a super surge
@txtoolcrib3 ай бұрын
I hope so too
@The5upermann13 ай бұрын
Tweezers. I wish they would include them like they did in the E4. I work around conduit and always need pull out metal slivers. Waiting for them to improve the arc before I spend all that money.
@peddypeoples9413 ай бұрын
While magnacut is nice and all the blade is imho overkill and has a not so slicy edge geometry. This thing costs 300 euros in germany, no one would buy this to really work with it. So i agree with your suggestion to make "budget" versions with cheaper bladesteel. The concept and tool selection are nice. Wont stop me from using my trusty Swisstool X but accessability is a good thing.
@ericenright37213 ай бұрын
I want/need a box cutter swap out for my arc. any ideas or thoughts? preferably to swap out the can opener or the eye glass driver. I would do the saw if need be though.
@krkrbbr3 ай бұрын
100% agree with the can opener point you've made, in my opinion they scrapped an iconic leatherman design with a useful sharp point and a fine wire stripper for a less functional victorinox ripoff. I used that wire stripper more than the can opener for sure.
@merkyworks3 ай бұрын
Adding PC doodle flashlight to ARC is a nice addition
@DaveB4323 ай бұрын
Not seen your videos pop up on my time line for a couple months. Great to see your still reviewing. Will you be looking at Nextool or Roxon MT in the future, or clones like Bibury/Dal camping?
@gambitm74803 ай бұрын
I still want an Arc but my charge plus will always be my number1.
@paragonknight33073 ай бұрын
When will Leatherman just do a "custom" page where you can just pick what tools you want on it...
@forgetyourlife3 ай бұрын
Most tool options wouldn’t fold together just all random à la cart.
@paragonknight33073 ай бұрын
@@forgetyourlife it could be done on the oft model
@patrickbledsoe21763 ай бұрын
I just bought parts off ebay and esty, to build the wave + I wanted but you have to attentive on what can go where
@MrTwisted723 ай бұрын
Greatly enjoy your videos. Have you heard of or reviewed multi tools from Rocktol? I would be interested in your thoughts on their tools.
@robertdufour2456Ай бұрын
How did I miss this presentation?!
@erikswenson26593 ай бұрын
Flashlight - small led and button battery, perhaps just to illuminate the driver work area or the like. It would let you see what bit is required where the fastener is recessed. Not for illuminating a room/pathway and not for extended use.
@Spolt_main3 ай бұрын
While more tools are always better, I'd rather not have a cheap light on my expensive multitool. I just carry an AA flashlight for that sort of thing.
@kettchuk9183 ай бұрын
They’d do better either make a home customisable option like the GOAT or making SAK variations in the factory. Swap in different blades, come up with a name, watch the money role in as collectors Pokémon them and normal people get what they need on a tool instead of a load of shit they don’t want to weigh their pocket down with.
@et96503 ай бұрын
I carry it but I still thing the charge has it beat in a few areas
@Nostrite3 ай бұрын
best way ive seen to clean metal dust off of magnets is an air blower
@txtoolcrib3 ай бұрын
Agreed
@yuefung007Ай бұрын
Change the cutter is most important.
@kvernesdotten3 ай бұрын
13:10 - Or for those of us who live outside the US, 400 dollars.
@eymantia2 ай бұрын
I do have to disagree with the proposal you made regarding the cap lifter. If they made it thicker on that side to improve the cap lifter, you would lose almost all of the reach of the flathead driver in tighter spaces, such as those screws sunk into holes exactly the OD of the screwhead.
@KungFuTweety13 ай бұрын
From your mouth to Leathermans ears!
@michaelcariello62333 ай бұрын
Could the claw style can opener double as a package opener?
@txtoolcrib3 ай бұрын
It could, but it still doesn’t perform like the dedicated version they made for the Wingman. Another good suggestion someone made was a chisel/cable stripper option.
@fletcha77773 ай бұрын
Does anybody know where the link to the page that he said he was going to put below is?
@txtoolcrib3 ай бұрын
I had forgotten to add it originally, but it is posted in the description now. My apologies.
@edcgearpocketknifeАй бұрын
The Leatherman arc is not worth 220$ in my opinion. It’s like it’s missing the leatherman quality. The definitely could have made the tools better. Like the can opener and the awl. I agree with your opinion 100 %
@My03Tundra2 ай бұрын
I disagree with doing away with the scissors. Around my house, those, a rough cut/sharp blade and pliers are the most commonly needed tools, in that order. If I get an Arc, I will sell my Free P4 with leather sheath, and possibly even my 300M, with RAE Gear sheath.
@user-xf3sy3fd1n3 ай бұрын
Hi Ben, two comments I have. 1- a company I believe called Roxon has just come out with an option to build your own multi tool on line, however word of caution. They’re not made of endurance steel! 2- Never knew that you were a Chief’s fan! Lol
@txtoolcrib3 ай бұрын
Been a Chiefs fan since the mid 80’s
@user-xf3sy3fd1n3 ай бұрын
@@txtoolcrib Nice, well I don’t know how old you are, but I’m 49. I remember those days. Montana was my favorite player and went from the 49’rs to the chiefs, etc. lol
@txtoolcrib3 ай бұрын
I’m 47. In 94 we went to watch George Brett’s last game at Kaufman and then we watched the Chiefs take on the Oilers in a preseason game the next night. Thomas was always my favorite player. As great as Mahomes is, and I am eternally grateful for what he has done for the Chiefs, 58 will always be my guy.
@txtoolcrib3 ай бұрын
Did I mention something about being a Chiefs fan in this video?
@user-xf3sy3fd1n3 ай бұрын
@@txtoolcrib No, truthfully I saw the shorts video on your wife’s KZbin channel. I got a kick out of it. That would be me, Lol
@SuperSikarlo2 ай бұрын
The tiny screwdriver seems useless until your glasses break
@deceptionsdemiseАй бұрын
Completely irrelevant to the function of the ARC but a blacked out version would be nice to see. I think I'd be more inclined to spend the amount of money it would take to get one of these, probably more money because of the cost to blacken the implements.
@elloyou0073 ай бұрын
What about a 1/4 and 5/16 driver.
@txtoolcrib3 ай бұрын
Like a nut driver?
@elloyou0073 ай бұрын
@@txtoolcrib yes I've been wanting a multi tool made dedicated for work. Most I see are for camping and gun stuff. I do HVAC and would like to carry one with a nut driver and wire stripper needle nose and crimper.
@JimLBonАй бұрын
Controversial perspective, but the Arc is as if Leatherman took everything I don’t like about the Charge series and combined it with everything I don’t like about the Wave.
@tacklecentralfishing10513 ай бұрын
What about 154cm?
@txtoolcrib3 ай бұрын
Great choice for a mid tier.
@billybunter37533 ай бұрын
Ways to improve the Leatherman Arc...Buy a Surge! 😂
@txtoolcrib3 ай бұрын
That’s a good one.
@mike_qbik3 ай бұрын
I skipped this one and have zero regrets. Too many why’s.
@RP-dy5mu3 ай бұрын
Just put what the surge has into the arc. It's not that hard. The surge is literally the perfect tool with the t-shank you can create all sorts of cheeky things yourself. But one handed opening isn't that comfortable.
@txtoolcrib3 ай бұрын
Seems to be the largest selling point for the masses these days though. My opinion aligns more with yours though.
@mdsuave133 ай бұрын
ha
@thomash.45013 ай бұрын
No one needs a bottle cap lifter on a multitool. If you can open a bottle with your multitool you shouldn't carry one. ☺☺
@txtoolcrib3 ай бұрын
I agree, but in this case it is a supplementary tool with the driver being the main tool. So in this configuration, it takes nothing away from the functionality by including it.
@LaResistenciaEDC3 ай бұрын
Arc is basicly the most expensive leatherman, and needs mods on almost everysheet tools on it. 😂 #surgeisking
@noktturnalАй бұрын
Great ideas. They couldnMake it more modular, the arc has a great set of tools to begin with but there's wiggle room.
@iWillProbablyDieOnTwoWheels3 ай бұрын
Forgot where I got it, but for the olight I used to have silicone caps to be able to use around metallic dust. Although the Leatherman, you'd essentially have to put in a ziploc, ha