‘80s Muscle vs Classic Muscle🚦Pure Stock Drags 1987

Muscle Car Drags (1987) Classic ‘60s-‘70s Muscle vs '80s Muscle - featuring 5.0 Mustang, SD455 Trans Am, Camaro IROC-Z, Grand National, Ram Air GTO, 442 Olds, 340 Dart, Regal T-Type, 340 'Cuda, Ram Air Trans Am, 340 Demon, Challenger T/A, 426 HEMI GTX, Chevy 409 and other Classics...
#MuscleCarTimeMachine

[@RyanGallager]

I can't believe this exists, simply amazing. When else are people ever going to see a 69 Trans Am Ram Air IV on a drag strip? Wow wow wow!

[@chrisauten2039]

Dang straight. But if you thing that RA IV trans am is valuable then check out the car at 15:33! A 67 GTX hemi ragtop....are you kidding me?????

[@nedaCFilms]

@@chrisauten2039 lol,the good ‘ole days.

[@JohnnyButtons]

There’s a bunch more on the channel #MuscleCarTimeMachine

[@rodan2852]

Man the 80s wasnt that gay after all! I guess it depended on where you spent your weekends

[@nedaCFilms]

@@rodan2852 the ‘80s were a magical decade! Especially the mid-late ‘80s lol.

[@AntoineMiller]

I will never get tired of hearing that turbo from those grand nationals crossing the finish line!

[@nedaCFilms]

It’s a beautiful thing

[@barbar-w4d]

Not stock

[@whichgodofthousandsmeansno5306]

I prefer the sound of a N/A or supercharged V8. A banana in the tailpipe can produce a whistle. Call me old school.

[@hurricaneaquatics]

​@@barbar-w4dit was stock.

[@281cobracar7]

My first time on a drag strip was in my bone stock 85 Mustang GT w/5 - speed and 3:08 gears. I ran a 14:89 and was ecstatic that I got in the 14's. Today a minivan would smoke me. Lol

[@nedaCFilms]

14s were fast back in the '80s

[@281cobracar7]

@@nedaCFilms Yep, imagine my surprise when a year later C&D did a road test on a 86 GN. That GN ran 13.9 quarter mile on a damp track.

[@BuzzLOLOL]

@@281cobracar7 - Then '87 GNX ran low 13's...

[@SofaKingQuick]

Which minivan? Be specific.

[@midnight347]

Beleive it or not there aren't many mini vans running faster than that. Just because they have more hp don't mean they're faster. It's a van but I get what you're saying.

[@bluesman7475]

Loved the Brewster Green 73 SD-455 Trans Am, very rare car, over 6 figures today.

[@nedaCFilms]

There's no cooler car in my eyes. Brewster green makes it even cooler.

[@IceTTom]

A million dollars plus?? Umm 🫤 show me

[@redrider6580]

I'm a Ford guy, but I thought those Buick GN's were a beautiful car back in the day. I loved em.

[@nedaCFilms]

I fell in love with the 5.0 Mustangs back in the mid '80s after riding in a brand new 5.0 lol. I was instantly hooked, but I always thought I was a GM guy. Not after that lol. Honestly I love all #V8ponycars and American Iron.

[@redrider6580]

@@nedaCFilms I hear ya. I used to go on the Ford lot after dark and drool all over the Foxbody's they had there. I would lay on the ground and look up under them checking out the exhaust and how the rear end was set up and check out the interior. I wouldnt go during daylight because if you werent buying they would run you off. And being dirt poor when I was young I certainly couldnt afford one. I love all Mustang's. but those Foxbody's still get me even today. I've only gotten the chance to own one in my day. And now they've gone so crazy on the money they're bringing I'll probably never be able to afford another one.

[@jimmycline4778]

Come over to the dark side then!

[@ct87gn25]

@@jimmycline4778 That's what I did. I had a modded 87 LX 5.0 that I thought was pretty quick when I raced a buddies GN. He cleaned my clocks bad! When i found out he had less then a grand in mods, I sold the LX (beautiful car BTW) and bought my 87 GN. Still have it but it now runs 11.0's with just bolt ons, and stock heads....

[@fudgeman333]

What a time to be alive. Im many moons too late, all good is gone. Cars & racing culture will never be this way again.

[@nedaCFilms]

It really was a magical time ❤️

[@zachdebuhr6347]

You're right, you could buy a '70 super bee and no one will know what it is, the culture doesn't appreciate good cars anymore

[@garycordle5295]

Nice to see them old school cars still kicking AZZ 💯 Mopars 🔥

[@scarface9617]

This is the kinda drag racing, I really enjoy watching! 🤝🏼K.y.

[@amaziin7733]

Man I love this stock action

[@nedaCFilms]

Lovin the Ford Excursion on your profile pic!

[@amaziin7733]

@@nedaCFilms yea man thanx for now the excursion my daily it’s a v10 powered on 10 in lift and 38x 15.5 R20 tire

[@jhaymanmyles2226]

Just the way I remember the tracks in the 80’s, plenty of Grand Nationals😊

[@iggyfritz7150]

I'm also glad that these cars represent what they would be like on the street off the showroom floor they are obviously stock and represent realistic quarter mile times. The other king of the 80s was the LX Mustang. Again these cars represent realistic stock cars that you would buy yes you can modify them and do little trickery and really wake them up but for people who just raced on the street these cars are good representation and realistic quarter mile times.

[@nedaCFilms]

Yeah many of these cars were running Concours Class and were 100% showroom factory stock.

[@aphil4581]

Lx Mustang king of nothing. Brought my new Buick 87 T-Type put a carb spring over the turbo waste gate spring and ran 12's @ 17.5lbs boost on Texaco 94 octane. Right off the show room floor.😚More spring and 21 psi and ave gas and a cut out before the cat.

[@southtexashustler]

@@aphil4581, that’s exactly what I told someone else about that GN… That car was a complete assassin from the factory… The IROC or Corvette didn’t want none of that heat either… I remember two things about the GN I saw at the dealership in Metairie, La… They was priced higher than the corvette but, it scared certain people away because, it was just a V-6/ Turbo luxury car… I just called it that black on black Dale Earnhardt street killer back in the 90’s…👍🏾

[@Watchingin09]

This is awesome. My dad used to take me to Seattle International Raceway almost every weekend to see the drags. He used to hide beer under the backseat of his ‘67 Camaro 327 SS. I’m 50 and still remember these great times.

[@chriskrueger8225]

Just came across this channel. So good! So many think the 80's were a bad time for performance. Not the case. I love the 60's and early 70's muscle cars, but most of them were really not as quick as people remembered them or thought them to be. Nostalgia does weird things to people.

[@nedaCFilms]

You are right. It’s also like the game of telephone we played in kindergarten, the story gets changed and exaggerated once it gets around the room lol.

[@midnight347]

The fastest ones ran 13s most were 14-15 so by the mid 80s the new cars were starting to compete again with old muscle for the first time since the gas crisis caused power to be cut to shit. The aftermarket as a whole wasn't as big then those are the cars that began the aftermarket taking off to what we have today.

[@nedaCFilms]

@@midnight347 that is exactly right. By the mid ‘80s manufacturers figured out how to balance fuel efficiency, emissions and performance.

[@80GP400]

The 80's cars where lighter too. In 78 they started downsizing the G body cars lost like 850 pounds. The Fox boy stangs where under 3000 pounds but with some mods the 60's and 70 cars where in the 11-14 second range.

[@stephenr9194]

Detroit iron from the 60's & 70's were handicapped by the skinny tires they wore...Their big inch powerplants had tons of torque which wins quarter mile races...

[@thomasfriedman9535]

Video could be called a bunch of Grand Nationals walking on other cars.

[@BuzzLOLOL]

Some Grand Nationals ran good, others were weak... no GNX's? ... most of the Mustangs were no wheres near 'stock'...

[@gregallen9065]

@@BuzzLOLOL it was the drivers, NOT the cars. The 1986/87 GNs were capable of mid 13 second quarter miles STOCK. The ones that just idled at the line without putting it into boost are the ones running one to two seconds slower than the ones that knew how to drive one. I owned 11 so I know a little about them. The 1984/85 were slow due to non intercooled but even then they could hit mid 15s with a good driver.

[@BuzzLOLOL]

@@gregallen9065 - Yeah, I know about using boost correctly, in the 1960's my daily driver was the Jetfire...

[@SofaKingQuick]

Except for that challenger

[@ct87gn25]

@@gregallen9065 Couldn't have said it any better. It looks like a lot of the GN owners in this vid never raced their car before, because if they did they would have break boosted at the line before launching. Makes a HUGE difference in performance on those cars.....

[@dres442]

Love the fact that these are stock and no mods!

[@BuzzLOLOL]

LOL !!! ... Many of them no where near 'stock'... while others were total slugs...

[@231mac]

@@BuzzLOLOL And which one's were "no where near 'stock'"?

[@peteloomis8456]

​@@231macOne of those grand nationals wasn't stock because they never came with the blow off valve you can hear after he lets out of the throttle when he's done doing his burn out . Those grand nationals were quick but a lot of them blew up because of the turbo's pressure caused the pistons to collapse plus they had oiling issues for the turbo that would cause the turbo's bearings to fail because of lack of cool oil and not enough oil pressure so the bearings would fail and if the oil wasn't changed regularly the dirty oil that the viscosity would decrease from the heat would kill those turbo bearings . I worked at a shop that we had a couple come in to be fixed because of these issues I'm saying . You can definitely see who can cut a light good and drive verses someone that's sleeping at the light and can't power shift a 4 speed with some of these cars . Those 340 Dusters and Darts could easily if a few simple things done to the tune of the engine and be in the 12s all-day long . Some of the national record setting 340 cars are running 10s in the 1/4 mile with not that much done to them and the 340 was always underated for it's HP numbers and were called the big block dragon slayer known for spanking a lot of big block cars of the time in the 1/4 mile. Seems like some of the newer mustangs I'm seeing here were running faster than they would stock from the factory because I've driven some of them and they were slugs even with the injected 5.0 with the 5 SPD manual compared to some of the muscle cars I have worked on and test driven years ago back when i worked at some speed shops and im talking hundreds of old cars muscle cars and drag cars at a shop in MN that was sponsored by the MSRA . We had built a car for a guy that was a 69 Pontiac GTO a full tube chassis big tire car with a 455 HO block but with all the goodies in the engine that was making 1,500 HP to the rear wheels on our chassis dyno and at 1 time it was a national record setting drag car running low 8s at 165+ mph in the 1/4 mile and at that time it's was the quickest and fastest all Pontiac powered drag car in the USA . We used to test and tune the car at Brainered international raceway years ago and I still have a picture of the car hanging in my garage to this day now that I'm retired but still build some muscle cars and rat rods with a buddy of mine in his shop just to stay busy .

[@excelerater]

good times,80s and 90s drags were some of the best..

[@nedaCFilms]

It sure was bud!

[@dr.detroit1514]

Those Turbo Buicks! Being a Pontiac guy, I can only dream what an 80's T/A and Lemans with the Turbo 4.9 301 V8 and modern tech like SFI, intercoolers and electronic engine controls could have done.

[@nedaCFilms]

One of my biggest regrets was selling my turbo 301 Trans Am Pace Car back in 2005. It only had 65,000 miles. That one still hurts.... also had a Formula 350 I sold in 1993. That one hurts too.

[@williampowers7169]

@@nedaCFilms I loved my '89 Formula 350 ! The car had every option available. A consistent 14:40's car in stock trim.

[@chrisauten2039]

Pontiac almost put a turbo 4.9 v8 in the new for 82 trans am. If it would have been done and eventually benefitted from sequential fuel injection like the GN, it would have given the SD 455 cars a run for their money. O well, at least there was the limited edition 87 TA with a version of the GN motor. Those are very rare and collectible now.

[@ct87gn25]

@@chrisauten2039 That was a 89 Turbo Trans Am with the Buick turbo engine......

[@joeywarren3803]

Check out the 89 Pontiac Trans Am Pace cars only 1555 produced. They have very close variation of the Grand Nationls and T-Types 3.8 Turbo 6. They had to change the heads on the Trans am to a 3.0 Fwd Buick head to fit in the F-Body. Latercfinding out these heads flowed actually than the 3.8!

[@garrisonnichols807]

3:16 Yep I knew this was going to happen. Those 340s are incredibly fast

[@nedaCFilms]

They were easy low 14 second runners straight off the showroom floor and some good tires and skilled driver could run 13s all day at the track. That was a fast small block equipped car in those days.

[@231mac]

Not trying to take away from the Mopar, but the GN spun like crazy. Besides, they most likely would have tied since the GN's were running 14.4 (or better) that day.

[@Leonard-wc5gi]

😄

[@caseycassidy-k4z]

What helped was that those early dusters weighed around 3400 lbs, if that. The 68-'72 GM A body's were around 3800 lbs. Similar size cars

[@supreme188]

Didn’t know this was a thing …never heard anything about it.I’m glad I found this channel thanks for uploading all these videos!The fact he says the specs before each race makes this a lot more enjoyable.this is gold

[@nedaCFilms]

❤❤❤

[@mickeymighty1866]

I wonder what you were smoking

[@supreme188]

@@mickeymighty1866 it was great stuff , I’m from California so I get a hold of some high quality marijuana.

[@ahawk1968]

Wow! What a blast... My 89 5.0 LX was running 12.9's at 102 with Edelbrock heads and a b303 cam.. (6000 ft elevation) It was such a rush back then...😂 Its crazy how my son's Hyundai could have smoked it nowadays..😂😂😂😂

[@nedaCFilms]

Had a 1987 IROC-Z (5.7 TPI) with stock heads, stock cam and stock intake, stock 3.23 gears, with full exhaust, underdrive pulleys, K&N filter, descreened and machined cooling fins in MAF and Hypertech Thermomaster chip, 160* thermostat and Hypertech cool fan switch ran 13.6 at either 104 or 106 mph (I can’t remember the trap speed, but remember it was something like that) those Tuned Port 350 engines had so much potential once you could get them to breath on intake and exhaust sides. Basically a completely stock engine other than very basic bolt-on mods. My buddy “Nate” had a ‘90 GT with Edelbrock heads and intake, E303 cam, 24lb injectors, pulleys, MSD ignition, 4.10 gears and he ran 12.9 as well. Have some videos of his black GT on the channel, running high 12s.

[@ahawk1968]

​@@nedaCFilms Man, I so much wanted a IROC just couldn't get over the added sticker over the 5.0.. What were they going for, 15k or so?

[@nedaCFilms]

@@ahawk1968 yeah man, the LX Mustang was such a better bang for the buck! A lot of car for $10k

[@garry3013]

More GN's at this place than at a Buick Showroom. Cant believe the abuse the GNs out on the others.

[@BenCarling-z9l]

Those grand nationals kicked ass - wow amazing car-

[@nedaCFilms]

They were straight killers!

[@jeramiahweston8095]

The GN and fox bodies seem to really rule in the 80's

[@80GP400]

The 80's (85 and up) vettes where just as fast and handle better, also had higher top speeds. Most Vette owners didnt drag race though and where older guys.

[@deronborghi5929]

Yeah, they really lightened up those cars in the 80s.👍👍

[@elliottbutts153]

Pretty cool!! Just a reminder of how fast the Grand National was. Also pretty amazing how a 225 horsepower Fox could compete.

[@gregallen9065]

Properly driven Turbo six Buicks dominated OTHERWISE the MoPar 340's would have.....Mopar 340 really is overlooked but could really move.

[@alvingriggs6932]

Beech Bend, one of the best 1/4 mile tracks around. Them GN & 5.0 hurting a lot of feelings!

[@brianr1892]

I had a 396 chevelle I raced in the 87 muscle car nationals at beech bend , was a great time.

[@KartKing4ever]

That's really smokin', Johnny.

[@nedaCFilms]

Lmao

[@calvinking9647]

7

[@BuzzLOLOL]

Those 1970's big block cars are running like an '86 Monte Carlo SS with 305" V8 !

[@nedaCFilms]

@@BuzzLOLOL '86 Monte Carlo was lucky to run 15s "if" it had the L69 H.O 305. If it had the LG4 it was 16 seconds at best lol.

[@BuzzLOLOL]

@@nedaCFilms - That's what I said, "Monte Carlo SS" which always came with L69 and automatic (except in Mexico) and ran about 16 flat at 80 MPH stock... LG4 cars more like 18 flat and 75... In first race of this video the '77 Firebird turns a 15.87... might as well say 16...

[@BenCarling-z9l]

SD 455 was a hot running engine- nothing could touch it in 1973

[@nedaCFilms]

Yeah, I think you’re probably right. The Super Duty 455 was surely the strongest engine of 1973 and the rest of the ‘70s decade.

[@Boblib1970]

Johnny: "13.33 at 110mph" Announcer: "Bone stock?" Johnny; "Yea." Announcer: "That's really smokin, Johnny!" Me in 2021: 🤣🤣🤣 And before I get attacked, I was there. I was a kid in 1987, had an IROC that ran a 14.91 best and remember these numbers, and thinking that 13.33 WAS smoking. My comment is more in amazement of how far we've come, and not a put down. I've run 14.50 in my daily driver F150. To think that it would trounce my old Camaro is amazing.

[@nedaCFilms]

13.3 was smokin lol

[@gt-37guy6]

The allure for me was in the Classic Muscle in the 80s. A strong good running muscle car with timing properly advanced out would take any of the 80s cars. I had a 70 Electra 4 door that would pull away from most any car around then. It had a Stage 1 cam, stock was 370 HP, Stage for sure added 15 or so. I remember stomping a Dart GT or Duster right on Lyndale avenue in MPLS....he was surprised for sure by the ol bomb. She would snap 2nd gear rubber at about 55 mph hitting 2nd gear towing a speed boat!

[@Boblib1970]

@@gt-37guy6 Yeah I loved the classic muscle too. My dad was an old full size Ford big block kind of guy, so that's what I was exposed to growing up. I was driving 427 Fords when I was 14. Always wanted a 66 or 67 Fairlane, but when I got into my late teens I fell in love with the Camaros. Never forget when I brought the IROC home he took one look at it and said 'don't ask me to work on it.' A few months after he passed, I probably made him proud by buying a GT 350. He wasn't a Mustang guy, but at least I finally have a Ford.

[@gt-37guy6]

@@Boblib1970 Bolib....My first Mucle-car like ride was in a 66 T-Bird with the 428, owned by our neighbor. I was maybe 12 years old. When he pulled out on the highway entrance and floored that 428 my older brother and I looked at each other and were instantly hooked! Two weeks later we had a Musclecar encyclopedia, and we knew all of the engines / options / -performance for all of the muslecars of the 60s and 70s. Came in handy later in life for beer / garage related BS discussions! GT-350! Awesome -The newer Flat Plane crank models, or vintage?

[@Boblib1970]

@@gt-37guy6 Yep I learned a lot from my dad. Not just about 60s Fords, but a Chevy's and Mopars as well. I've got an '18 with the FPC. Got a lot of love for the classics, but I've also got my own likes. My mom has kept all of my dads cars, so I do still get to drive them. Jumping from a new Shelby to an old full sized 427 with no power steering, no power breaks, and drums all the way around is a helluva a shock. 🤣

[@grantwilks8706]

These are some great videos!! I had just graduated in May of 87 and my Dad had bought me a brand new 87 Trans am T top. I went to the drag strip in 89 I think for the 1st time. My best time I ever ran was 15:91 at 82 mph and that was the only time I ever ran in the 15’s, every other run was 16 to 16:50. Yeah that’s slow but I had a blast. I would never dreamed that now at 54 years old I could see a 3.5 v6 f150 bone stock run a 13:80 right off the lott. Thank You again for the video and bringing back great memories.

[@southtexashustler]

No bro, that wasn’t slow… That’s exactly what that car did in factory trim from a performance standpoint… I loved that car you had because, it was compatible to the IROC that year… The 87 mustang came out with the fuel injected 302 at that time, light weight, with no gear… Car needed more gear from the factory… But, when the Grand National came out swinging that year, no production car or truck could touch it in the quarter mile… My brother had a bone stock GN, I had pulleys, 3.73 gear, cold air, shortie exhaust, h-pipe, Motorsport clutch package with tremec transmission… All he did was change the rear gear in his car, still couldn’t run away from that turbo…👍🏾

[@nedaCFilms]

@@southtexashustler yeah, we would’ve hung out in the ‘80s brother 😉

[@williamstamper442]

I remember watching the struggle, but my 87 GN ran a 14.01 at 98. I did all the tricks from icing down the intake to tire pressure, and messing with the launch . Later it went 11.89 while looking bone stock but that was with m&h sticky tires tho.

[@whichgodofthousandsmeansno5306]

Swap in a V8? Sorry.. had to. I do respect those era GN's but I need a V8 and 4 speed under my arse to remember what it was like to be an American during the coolest and best times ever.

[@MarvinHartmann452]

​@whichgodofthousandsmeansno5306 I had some fast car. A 1987 buick GNX, a gmc Syclone. Both v6, both faster than most v8 production stock cars. Having a v8 just for the sake of it is pointless. Especially during the time these races were recorded. Also, being from Europe, most of these cars were relatively fast, but on a straight line only. If you want to see some fast cars, watch some old rally group C races.

[@reginaldmclean8013]

My 72 340 road runner was the sleeper from hell. Had 4-11 gears with real traction control from dug,s rear ends in Los Angeles. It took on 440 455454. All day. Has 3500 stall auto. 3500-6500 isky cam. Headers license plate said race brd Later on I bought a four speed manual 72. That car was so fun. Could turn 180 degrees while driving 25 mph. Both could turn around in a second going opposite direction with no racing skills. Loved them.

[@ztwntyn8]

Priceless footage! Love the content.

[@largelarry2126]

If I was racing against a pure stock turbo car they would need to prove to me the boost is at what ever it was set at stock.

[@davidreynolds4715]

Nobody who has a factory turbo car leaves their turbo at factory settings, at least not for long. But it is still a factory turbo!

[@enemyofmyenemy6713]

kills me to see cars like the 1968 Torino w/289, Torino is a big car i had a 1969 Torino GT 428 a big motor for a big car. 289 Falcon & smaller cars weight wise i think Torino, Galaxy & LTD were biggest & heaviest of Fords at time? great motors just not enough go for the big beasts

[@schoolboy6633]

Loved this video, I don't know why any of those other race videos show you all the races but you Never know in the end WHO wins or their times! Smdh

[@hurricaneaquatics]

This wasn't that long ago, well seems like it, haha. I used to do this every weekend with my 69 SS Camaro. It's about impossible to see lower times in these cars on street tires. None of them hook up and spin a lot.

[@nedaCFilms]

Very true… and you really don’t get much cooler than the ‘69 Camaro Super Sport 🏆

[@whichgodofthousandsmeansno5306]

I love the 73 TA with the SD455. But it needs a 4 speed. Growing up I saw these all the time and loved them back then too. But the prices are so high now I can't even afford a plain 73 firebird to make a TA clone lol. So I have a 1995 TA instead. Maybe one day...

[@naughtmeenaym869]

Should have just made it 5.0 vs Buick

[@bobforpples]

Memories are so much better than reality.

[@nedaCFilms]

Always

[@agentcooper4627]

That '73 Poncho was kicking ass and taking names.

[@nedaCFilms]

I would love to own that Super Duty 455

[@jeffwilson4243]

@@nedaCFilms That was my best friend John's car. We put headers and slicks on it and ran 13.00@110 the headers were open. John's brother Nick had a1974 4-speed white with blue deluxe interior. I still have my 74 auto Buccaneer red with black deluxe. John also had a 74 auto like mine,he sold that TA a few years before he got the Brewster green 73. He also had a 74 admiralty blue 4-speed that was hit in the rear quarter . Nobody would repair it back in the early 80's so he parted it out. John passed away in August 2016 he was 60. I miss my friend dearly. I knew him and his brother Nick since 1974.

[@JohnnyButtons]

@@jeffwilson4243❤

[@goodbonezz1289]

I wonder where that ‘73 super duty Trans Am is today..

[@whichgodofthousandsmeansno5306]

At first I was like "why aren't any of these killer muscle cars breaking below the 14's?"... then I heard "concours" and was like "ahh". I had no problem getting those cars into the low 13's, high 12's back in the day but they put us in a class called "modified stock". Gears. slicks, headers, carb, cam, port work and tearing out the pollution crap.. the usual.

[@theunderworld1163]

That GNX was taking names

[@nedaCFilms]

@@theunderworld1163 crazy thing is that these were just GN models, no GNX models competed in this, which the GNXs were even faster than the regular GNs lol.

[@whichgodofthousandsmeansno5306]

Well if anything I discovered the sound of late 60's early 70's muscle cars is as enjoyable to my cat as it is to me . It is simply music to the ears that can not be replicated. Turbo whistle has bored me since the 1980's. America is about V8 and I will never, EVER relent.

[@drunvert]

I just watched a half hour long commercial for the Grand Am

[@nedaCFilms]

Grand Am is SCCA sanctioned road racing lol

[@drunvert]

@@nedaCFilms Pontiac Grand National I meant. 😁

[@nedaCFilms]

@@drunvert Buick 😉

[@nedaCFilms]

@@drunvert although the Grand Am was a Pontiac 😉

[@drunvert]

@@nedaCFilms ha, whatever. I'm a Chevy guy

[@bbcala9719]

That was some damn great racing. Those Gran Nationals were very tough in the 80's, but those Fox body's were quick too. I have had both, 60's muscle cars and 80's 5.0's. But that was some great racing. Thanks for posting

[@Sansoloz]

All these 5.0 mustangs and not a single one of them with "me too" pony 16s they look like sleepers with "telephone" 15s they were light years from 1991.

[@mackenzienowak6346]

It's amazing how slow the TransAm's were

[@nedaCFilms]

They are concours class show cars. There’s other #MuscleCarTimeMachine vids on the channel with a 1968 Firebird RamAir II smoking everything lol.

[@gregallen9065]

OMG.....some of these Grand National drivers hitting mid 15's? Then others running the low 13's like they were easily capable of....such a difference the driver makes.

[@ct87gn25]

The slower running cars were not being 'break boosted' at the line. Makes a HUGE difference in 1/4 mile performance.....

[@gregallen9065]

@@ct87gn25 yes, no kidding. I have owned 11 over the years. And NOT brake boosting a turbo car for launch is ridiculous. Especially on a stock converter with a pure stock tune.

[@JohnnyButtons]

@@ct87gn25you are exactly right. Some of the GN owners didn’t yet know or understand how to come out of the hole with boost. They would just stab the gas. The fellas that learned how to brake boost made Grand National a legend.

[@meep2059]

Amazing video! Did he say these are all bone stock basically beside what was described? Awesome!

[@nedaCFilms]

Some of these cars were “concours class” 100% factory showroom stock.

[@ProjectFairmont]

And that’s this is why the 5.0 HO became a legend. Bang for the buck. Grand Nationals were nearly 50% more expensive than a Mustang LX 5.0.

[@nedaCFilms]

That's right, and you could buy a 5.0 Mustang LX for $10,000 back then.

[@camclarke9952]

They became a legend in the 90s when every other one had a Chevy under the hood...

[@midnight347]

​@camclarke9952 dude people didn't start putting gm under the hoods alot till the stupid ls swap trend bullshit came along. Bunch of brainless idiots that follow trends. In the 90s most mustangs had Ford power under the hood. Must mustangs still have Ford power under the hood. Plenty of people have gone fast with Ford power all the way back to the beginning stop spreading bullshit fantasy.

[@968porsche9]

The GN's were and are the man!

[@generalpatton8468]

Buick Grand National, the only muscle car to rock the V6

[@CamaroAmx]

Nope. Mustang SVO, Trans am 20th anniversary edition.

[@Boblib1970]

@@CamaroAmx SVO was a turbo 4. 20th anniversary TA was the Buick V6.

[@SquirminHermanthe1eyedGerman]

@@CamaroAmx SVO was a 4 banger & the 20th T/A had the Grand National 3.8 with reworked heads, ignition & exhaust! there were no other muscle cars with a V6!

[@CamaroAmx]

@@SquirminHermanthe1eyedGerman not in the us but Australia had the 265 hemi slant 6 in their version of the charger. That thing was a screamer.

[@SquirminHermanthe1eyedGerman]

@@CamaroAmx ahhhh, the Aussie Charger! I wish they had made the HEMI 6 here, it was suppose to replace the slant 6 in 1969 but never happened

[@colinstanhouse6663]

The Good ol days

[@mlong3131]

@Hooviesgarage Tyler Hoover look at all the Grand Nationals for your misses

[@STRAIGHTP]

Grand Nationals eating everyone up!

[@nedaCFilms]

Yeah, they seemed to do that a lot back then lol.

[@BobbyOfEarth]

Since Ford dropped the 289 in 1967, and replaced it with the 302.. I questioned the validity of whether a 1968 Torino ever having a factory 289, and found this: Torino GT models came standard with a 302 cu in (4.9 L)-2V small block V8 and this was also the base V8 engine optional on other models. Other available engines included a 390 cu in (6.4 L)-2V FE engine, 390 cu in (6.4 L)-4V FE engine and a 427 cu in (7.0 L)-4V FE engine. About one month within the beginning of the 1968 model year production, a six-week UAW strike against Ford occurred. This resulted in a cost-cutting measure of making a 289 cu in (4.7 L)-2V small block V8 the base V8 engine and the standard engine on the Torino GT. Ford did not change any of its factory sales literature to reflect this change.

[@shimshonbendan8730]

People often forget that your average Muscle Car of the 60s was not very fast. Many ran in the 15s and high 14s. It got worse. Most everything after 1971 save for the SD Trans Am were outright pigs. In the 80s, things got a little better, especially the Buick Regal Turbo and Grand National. It took the really high horsepower 60s Muscle Cars to get into the 13s.

[@FasterNLouder]

401 Javelins were quick, too. They didn’t have the power the SD455s had, but they were lighter

[@CDPhemi]

Makes me want to go to the dealership and get a Buick! Oh yea nvm…

[@jacobcarrillo933]

Grand nationals against everyone...lol

[@WickedestVoodoo]

I like how the GNX was basically the GTR of its day. You just know the winner before they leave the line.

[@nedaCFilms]

@@WickedestVoodoo these were just regular non-GNX models, just Grand Nationals. GNX was such a rare model even back then. They would’ve really murdered everything lol.

[@boostedsaleen6146]

History being made Lawrence Conley

[@nedaCFilms]

He was a pure stock O.G for sure.

[@waltert.dogcarnut5807]

The hay day, well my time anyway for drag racing... Awesome!

[@kurtwise7356]

I can't believe not one Chevelle SS racing! My 70 LS-6 was faster than most of them! Lots of Grand Nationals but no GNX!

[@nedaCFilms]

There’s many other Pure Stock #MuscleCarTimeMachine vids on the channel. You’ll find an LS6 Chevelle😉

[@luthercase-no2yn]

You will notice the early 70s. Cars done a lot better than the late seventies cars. The reason is Jimmy Carter's government put so much restrictions on those motors. It just killed the power.

[@nedaCFilms]

Jimmy Carter is soooooo grateful for Joe Biden lol.

[@klummpskards5652]

That Demon smoking that Vette was Epic!!!!!!!! Love the commentator giving the size of all the V8's too

[@80GP400]

True but the Vette driver was sleeping at the lights and those 85 C4 came with 2:73 gears and 9.1 compression. I bet that demon has 4.11 or 3:75 and over 10 compression. Motor week tested a 85 vette that ran 13.9 stock.

[@GHOSTGHOST-jw1mi]

Dam there's a lot of 5.0 mustangs and I only saw 1 Camaro from that 80's era

[@miamibitch305fl]

Back when 10’s was unheard of & thought of as impossible. Now 6’s is top of the line

[@gmain1977]

For the street muscle cars ran 10s in 70s

[@redfishslaya9501]

The fastest STOCK cars in 1970 ran 13 sec. Took some serious mods to get in the 10’s.

[@gmain1977]

@@redfishslaya9501 it did but was possible

[@justme307]

@@gmain1977 In the 1/8-mile.

[@peteloomis8456]

​@@justme307No the 1/4 mile 1,320 . My old neighbor had a 69 Nova SS 396 that he used to drag race called O'l never miss that ran low 10s in the 1/4 with basically a stock engine but with a bigger cam and hooker big tube headers with some drag slicks on the back and at the time he was freshening the engine up to sell the car for 3,500 complete ready to race & I still kick myself in the -ss for not buying the car . The body was rust free and no dents straight as a arrow with the name moniker on both doors . His buddy had stored his front engine dragster at his house and at times they would fire it off and you could hear it through the whole neighborhood lol . This was rural MN East bethel back then so nobody cried about the noise .

[@future20741]

Weird how those cars were supposed to be stock but the grand nationals were so far apart i could see a difference in a gn or ttype or gnx. And where were the fast cars of the late 60's some cars were in the 12's back then?

[@nedaCFilms]

Check out some of the other classic pure stock drags on the channel 😉

[@patriotjon8535]

You need to rename the video... Everything races a Buick Grand National. This is a Buick Fanboy video.

[@nedaCFilms]

There’s many more ‘80s pure stock drag videos on the channel, maybe you’ll find something you like… with less Grand Nationals lol

[@bluesharp59]

At 1:06 the 1973 yellow mustang reminds me of the car they used In the older version of the movie gone in 60 seconds. The first film was made back in the mid 70s. Over 40 minutes of smashing up Dodge and Plymouth cop cars along with regular cars. The best part was when the Cadillac dealership got wiped out. Look it up and you will amazed of how many cars were trashed in the movie.

[@peteartussee1202]

Absolutely love those Grand Nationals and 5.0 Mustangs

[@WPGinterceptor460Interceptor]

that charger at 05:28 looks like it blew rings or something 1/3 way down the track

[@BuzzLOLOL]

That 351 Mustang must not have had posi, smoked right rear tire all way through 2nd gear...

[@michaelsteal9128]

This should have been called buick grand national takes on slowest cars from the 70s

[@ct87gn25]

I wouldn't call RA-IV and Super Duty T/A's "slow" cars. There were also tri-power GTO's and 340 six pack T/A's there.

[@dustinmccain1215]

All those old timers that said those LEGENDARY muscle cars were so much faster needs to see this.

[@sebbonxxsebbon6824]

I ran in the early 90's and my 1985 Corvette was beating them.

[@peteloomis8456]

Lol watch on KZbin here the factory stock muscle car drags where in this class your limited to what cam can be used and what can't be done to the heads or what type of piston can be used and many of these cars would kill every car on this . The main reason for slower times of the muscle cars were the tires were crap and traction was just about nill . The other thing is not many people could tune a engine for more performance by timing curve changes and jetting for optimum HP or if they bought a muscle car and opted out of buying the positraction or sure grip or Ford's trackloc or not paying attention to what rear gears are being checked off on the build sheet and if you have a engine that makes good torque and crappy tires with crappy hwy gears these cars are just not going to pull the numbers and mph that the ones ordered with the correct performance package will and of course you had guys B's about how quick or fast they were . Look at the 69 Plymouth Barracuda fast back B029 factory drag cars that came with the 426 hemi and could be ordered with either the 727 auto or the 4 SPD manual and back when these cars came out they were running low 10s high 9s with no power adders like turbo nitrous blowers just race fuel and & 2 4 barrel holley's and a magneto ignition. These cars absolutely dominated drag racing back then along with the Hemi Dart that broke several track records through the years used and to this day they have their own class to run these cars today using the same engines but some the suspension have been upgraded and they now are running low 7s and mid 8s on race fuel and no power adders . Chevrolet at the time bowed out of this class and Ford had nothing that could stay with these cars back then . Guys like Ronnie Sox of Sox and Martin fame and a couple other Dodge and Plymouth factory drag race teams were kicking everyone's asses with these cars back then . If you look on KZbin here and type in Plymouth Barracuda B029 and see what comes up and you will see they were ahead of their times and the sound of the open header 426 hemi sounds bad ass and gets attention from people that are around them at car shows that some trailer to the event because they aren't supposed to be driven on the streets being they came with no vin plate or title and specifically designed and used for the drag strips .

[@jeroldlafferty54]

​@peteloomis8456 off the show room floor and factory Super Stock are race cars aluminum front fenders, hood and bumpers,Dana60 rear ends ss springs light weight interers they where about twice the price. Bad Daddys

[@DollaHowsMyDictate]

Born in 78 , in the 90s we use to do this here in Ontario Canada , just uo the rd from my house ..city limits ...Oshawa ont...home of Gm ..at 16 in 93 i had a 82 mustang gt done up , then got a 83 lx , 88 lx , then into my 78 nova 383, trans am s 79,83,85,93 ...a couple camaros.....ahh the days of buy en em for 800 .. cleaning some terminals an throwing a carb an headers on em an reselling em for 2 grand lol

[@saltydog4759]

Those vintage 340's are the only ones that could stay close to the Grand National Buicks.

[@ckelley63]

God how I remember those days I was a young carefree hormone enraged youngster with a hotrod heart lol and a 70 1/2 RA powered TA.

[@nedaCFilms]

The late ‘80s was an amazing time to be alive!

[@salninethousand2496]

Great footage. FINALLY, legit "Pure Stock" save for the obviously modified Buick at 1:29 and 14:00. Legit factory classic muscle cars were rarely in the 13s, as this plainly shows.

[@stephenschenider4007]

Love these even though I'm an 80s baby.

[@jonathanlawson4667]

I really love these old drag races but let's be realistic here those turbo cars should be in a class by themselves the fastest of 60s and 70s muscle cars couldn't do 0-60 in 4.6 seconds like the turbo grand nationals can lol

[@ssalamri7302]

that what I mean of the power of 1960s cars 5:01 you got to love a big V8 no reblisbment of desplisbment

[@ttuggle31]

First time I ever seen a Mustang outrun a Trans Am

[@loyalamerican8776]

I had a 1970 340 duster and the engine was warmed over a little bit and a 430 gear and I was running close to the mid 11’s at 124 mph On street tires and the car has air-conditioning So these cars today with all of their modern technology are not that impressive....The question of God for the New Age modern colors is what can they do with just a carburetor and a gear that’s the question and I’m thinking you’ll see a whole big difference in just how slow they are.

[@stefanovichmichael9686]

Nope!

[@gmain1977]

Not watched it yet will later ,but will like the video now and comment. Great videos man, this is Drag Racing , Muscle cars, not Ferrari,McLaren, BMWs or Audi's etc these cars are cool

[@tumbleweed0u812]

This should have been called the 5 liter and grand national fest.

[@jasonstewart8973]

Hell ye on the 69 trans am woooooo hoooooo!!!!!!!!

[@wtdonovan]

where's the heart button, I can't simply like it. All the new GNs racing hahaha not to mention everything else. I'm still really surprised at how far they've come since then.

[@V8AmericanMuscleCar]

16:52 I like this shift to second gear!! :-)

[@stefanovichmichael9686]

Old enough to remember drag and street races were won by more Chevy powered cars than all others combined.Although other gm cars were more than respectable.Sorry Mopar.I do like those Ford's though.

[@richardchristianson2823]

Lots of wheel spin on the earlier cars. If you can't get it to the ground...

[@rfaradiofreeamerica8392]

Cool video. Love the Buick GN. But some of those others are sllooww!! Lol

[@Pickleram]

Went from beech bend too great lakes dragway, I was at beech for that race

[@lawofliberty3517]

❤

[@whichgodofthousandsmeansno5306]

Back in 1993 I purchased a brand new Mustang LX coupe 5.0 5 speed and went ham on it with a belt driven supercharger, 351 ported heads, gears, long tube headers, X pipe cat bypass, cam and all the other typical bolt on's. I would make mince meat out of those V6 Buick GN's. But in stock form.. I have to give them some street cred. Just look at what it was doing to all those big block muscle cars from the day. I also have to give props to those 340 Mopars... how can anyone not if they were really from those days?

[@johndoe-zb8bm]

The good old days, excellent content my man!💯🔥

[@londonghoulchannel6409]

That demon is really moving

[@nedaCFilms]

Those 340 Demons would run!

[@kevincicero8352]

Man, right out of the gate The Bandit got smoked 😢

[@nedaCFilms]

Yeah, but in his defense, he was racing the quickest 5.0 notchback LX coupe in the field. This Foxbody was consistently running 14.1 quarter mile times and the only ‘80s model to give the top handful of Grand Nationals problems in the other #MuscleCarTimeMachine ‘80s Muscle Pure Stock Drags video.

[@joeywarren3803]

Awesome Memories right there.