How to Use the LYDIAN Mode

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8-bit Music Theory

8-bit Music Theory

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@banjopawmaville6736
@banjopawmaville6736 2 жыл бұрын
Rules for writing in Lydian mode: 1. Raise the 4th of a major scale (Example: key of F with B natural) 2. Write a fun tune! 3. … 4. “Dang it! It’s in C again!!”
@aj.s...
@aj.s... 2 жыл бұрын
Yep. I wrote a little fanfare once. For 8 out of the 10 bars, it was squarely in F lydian... aaaaaand then it resolved to stupid C. I was pissed, but there was nothing I could do cuz that's where it wanted to go.
@aldeayeah
@aldeayeah 2 жыл бұрын
Drones and pedal tones are your friends!
@calebbean1384
@calebbean1384 2 жыл бұрын
Avoid resolving to the C chord. Using Lydian cadences. Simple
@mingnrich
@mingnrich 2 жыл бұрын
I struggle to write in Lydian. On guitar, I tried it with an A major chord, followed by a B/A, then thought it sounded familiar. It’s Tom Petty’s “Here Comes My Girl” and the part resolves to E finally.
@Alxe_OST
@Alxe_OST 2 жыл бұрын
to avoid sounding "too majory" i usually avoid playing the Imaj chord arpeggio, it works
@owlyus
@owlyus 2 жыл бұрын
When I learned about the lydian mode, all I wanted to do was play sharp 4ths over a major 7th chord. Just all day
@mediocrity5693
@mediocrity5693 2 жыл бұрын
Yes this is exactly me
@Gold---Mole
@Gold---Mole 2 жыл бұрын
You mean there's a way to get past it? I've been doing it for over a decade and can't stop, plz send help 🙃
@ChristophJakob
@ChristophJakob 2 жыл бұрын
I've been doing that for so many years and have no intention to stop anytime soon haha.
@senarodrigo
@senarodrigo 2 жыл бұрын
It's been my favorite chord for many many years
@skylarfox_bmb
@skylarfox_bmb 2 жыл бұрын
can't stop won't stop
@DavidBennettPiano
@DavidBennettPiano 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! The pizza metaphor… *chef’s kiss*
@pentalarclikesit822
@pentalarclikesit822 2 жыл бұрын
"Locrian isn't a usable mode because it has a tritone against the root." "But Lydian has a tritone against the root." "Yes, but jazz players like Lydian."
@Ohyehah
@Ohyehah 2 жыл бұрын
While I agree that "usable" is a rather nonsensical term when it comes to music, the distinguishing feature of locrian is the fact that the root chord is diminished. This also means that the dominant chord isn't really dominant, making harmonic resolutions really difficult. With lydian, the root chord is simply major, and you do have a dominant, but not a subdominant 😜
@caleb2050
@caleb2050 2 жыл бұрын
locrian isn't unusable because of the tritone against the root, it's because there's no perfect 5th against the root. which lydian has
@bk8biokiller8
@bk8biokiller8 2 жыл бұрын
In most voicings its not a tritone its a #11 upper extention
@skylarfox_bmb
@skylarfox_bmb 2 жыл бұрын
who needs to care about a sharp 4 being a problem when it's jazz and u can just ignore the key when u don't like how it sounds
@skylarfox_bmb
@skylarfox_bmb 2 жыл бұрын
@@caleb2050 also unusable is a misnomer bc it's totally usable if you're going for dissonance and instability
@Gold---Mole
@Gold---Mole 2 жыл бұрын
Another fun lydian idea: avoid the 4 completely in the harmony, hit the #4 hard in the melody / solo 🎸🎶🎵
@Kylora2112
@Kylora2112 2 жыл бұрын
*John Petrucci has entered the chat*
@brycerosenwald2915
@brycerosenwald2915 Жыл бұрын
...thats exactly what the pepperoni technique is
@ryno_io
@ryno_io 2 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU I’ve been obsessing over space junk galaxy’s lydianness for years now and NO ONE HAS TALKED ABOUT IT it’s so beautiful thank you
@OsakaJoe01
@OsakaJoe01 Жыл бұрын
And you can hear this all over the game, from the game's opening fanfare when you first see the title screen!!! 😍
@WhitePaintbrush
@WhitePaintbrush Жыл бұрын
Lots of Lydian-ness in the SMG soundtrack, wonderful stuff
@izsaf
@izsaf 2 жыл бұрын
Please complete this series! I'd love to see Phrygian, Dorian, and Mixolydian covered. Even if they're "easier" to use it'd still be great to see. Hell, it'd be cool to even have ones on Ionian and Aeolian primarily to just show non-standard ways to use them (particularly ways to make Ionian sound less "cheesy")
@nickspencer2207
@nickspencer2207 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t write in Ionian without it accidentally resolving to Aeolian
@lumigpictures
@lumigpictures 2 жыл бұрын
I think Ionian is actually quite hard! It’s hard to make it not sound tonal, and usually analyzing something as Ionian instead of tonal major will be quite subjective… I’ve used wind waker’s opening theme as a possible approach to Ionian music in a class I’ve lectured about modes… but, surely, it might as well be seen as simply tonal
@PiercingSight
@PiercingSight 2 жыл бұрын
Dorian is one of my favorites. It's like a major minor, and melodies involving it sound so magical at times.
@reed3274
@reed3274 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@shawntrosen3361
@shawntrosen3361 Жыл бұрын
While he's at it he might as well do all the modes of melodic and harmonic minor and every possible combination of tetra chords lol
@TheForeignGamer
@TheForeignGamer 2 жыл бұрын
(2:46) "In this section of Eh-KROO-dee-yak City's theme" That is definitely a pronunciation.
@user-et3xn2jm1u
@user-et3xn2jm1u 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair it is a made up word. Now, it's a made up word made of two real words, but 8-bit is a drummer and you can't expect a drummer to know such things as "words".
@LloydVerner
@LloydVerner 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-et3xn2jm1u yeah but those words have pronounciations that don't change when put together. Ecru is "Eh-kroo" and Teak is "Teek", so "Eh-kroo-teek".
@Klabbity_Kloots
@Klabbity_Kloots 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, he definitely pronounced it.
@ValkyRiver
@ValkyRiver 2 жыл бұрын
Use IPA
@TheForeignGamer
@TheForeignGamer 2 жыл бұрын
@@ValkyRiver I know how to use IPA, but in my experience most people don't, so in general I prefer phonetically typing things out the way I did because it's easier to understand.
@Blitz_Spencer
@Blitz_Spencer 2 жыл бұрын
One of my absolute favorite uses of a “fake Lydian” is definitely Genshin Impact’s main theme. Since the song very clearly resolves to E minor (E Major in some cases), it’s in E, but the song harmonically and melodically bounces between a G Lydian sound and that E minor and Major sound. It blends beautifully and creates such a dreamy sound.
@calebbean1384
@calebbean1384 2 жыл бұрын
This usage is pretty common in jazz, that is moving between i minor Dorian and bIII major Lydian as key centers. I want to say Blue Bossa does this
@sargentbaco9182
@sargentbaco9182 2 жыл бұрын
"Head over Heals" by Tears for Fears and "Only the Young" by Journey open with a Lydian sound and it feels so full of hope and wonder.
@MisterL777
@MisterL777 2 жыл бұрын
It sounds so dreamy and vaporous, very powerful yet a bit unstable (as mentioned)
@KororaPenguin
@KororaPenguin Жыл бұрын
In Dorothy L. Sayers' classic novel _The Nine Tailors_ the eight church bells between them form a C Lydian scale.
@Rasv-
@Rasv- 11 ай бұрын
forgot Sting's If I Ever Lose My Faith in You
@thospe-f8x
@thospe-f8x 2 жыл бұрын
This sprinkling of lydian is my favorite thing to write. That sort of moving stasis is really nice for writing little chord progressions for casual jamming.
@Marandahir
@Marandahir 2 жыл бұрын
FYI, it’s “eh-cru-tiik” not “eh-cru-tii-ack” Teak, like the wood. Ecru, like beige coloured. Hence the beige tones of the town on the Game Boy Color. And the autumnal leaf colours on the DS.
@tojiko6868
@tojiko6868 2 жыл бұрын
thank you for that. It was driving me crazy if no one said that. Also I remembered how to pronounce it by watching the anime far enough to hear the announcer say it before I got my hands on G/S/C
@GameDevYal
@GameDevYal 2 жыл бұрын
i guess you could call it Ecrutiik: a postmodern city
@dangelobenjamin
@dangelobenjamin 2 жыл бұрын
I died inside
@MikeBohl
@MikeBohl 2 жыл бұрын
@@GameDevYal Ecrutiik makes me shriik
@LloydVerner
@LloydVerner 2 жыл бұрын
I would say "Eh-kroo-teek" But yeah you get the point across. I don't like how this guy said it. It's the same for me when people pronounce Cianwood "SEE-an-wud" and not "SIGH-an-wud" (Because it's supposed to be 'Cyan' and 'Wood' together)
@emmbeesea
@emmbeesea 2 жыл бұрын
And this is exactly what we love mode mixture! Being able to work with so many tasty ingredients means that choosing certain ones in certain situations can make the dish even better! Fantastic analysis with quite vibrant examples too!
@KieraQ0323
@KieraQ0323 Жыл бұрын
hello emmbeesea
@Tarukai788
@Tarukai788 2 жыл бұрын
An excellent overview of what makes a surprising amount of well-known game music have that little something extra overtop or woven in underneath. Very cool to learn!
@KydroxHD
@KydroxHD 2 жыл бұрын
Hey 8-bit. I wanna just write that you are one of my favorite youtubers, period. I initially got into music because of games. When I first saw your video on Zelda, I thought I struck gold cause your channel is a perfect mix of my interests. I'm barely getting back to music after finishing my degree, but I'm always happy to see an upload. It reminds me about my younger self. Dont sweat on the numbers, the audience you harbor is inherently niche. I am no music theory expert, but I have enough past experience to learn and be entertained. Keep it up man :)
@FreeBroccoli
@FreeBroccoli 2 жыл бұрын
It's funny that the pizza's crust is characterized as something you don't pay attention to, because when you get into pizza making the crust becomes the main obsession.
@MSCDonkeyKong
@MSCDonkeyKong Жыл бұрын
my mom used to always burn the crust with her homemade pizza until very recently, and even though her homemade pizza is good it was still really noticable and distracting for me lmao. second example of the crust being something you dont pay attention to: stuffed crust
@shinigamimiroku3723
@shinigamimiroku3723 10 ай бұрын
Facts. Never get someone from NYC and someone from Chicago in the same room and then mention pizza...
@thepotatoportal69
@thepotatoportal69 7 ай бұрын
The crust is the most important part to get right in the pizza, both literally and metaphorically.
@SvintMvrcus
@SvintMvrcus 2 жыл бұрын
And I ALWAYS appreciate the use of Ecruteak City theme in any example
@LloydVerner
@LloydVerner 2 жыл бұрын
It's a good city :)
@godminnette2
@godminnette2 2 жыл бұрын
Even if he pronounces it Ecrutiack
@flvcopicvsso
@flvcopicvsso 2 жыл бұрын
@@LloydVerner amazing city even
@flvcopicvsso
@flvcopicvsso 2 жыл бұрын
@@godminnette2 tbh I never knew how to pronounce it either lmao
@grandegroove5485
@grandegroove5485 Жыл бұрын
My first time hearing it it’s soooo good
@SuperCatPrincess
@SuperCatPrincess 2 жыл бұрын
Perplexing Pool is legit one of my favorite tracks in the entire gamecube library. It's got lots of color, polyrhythm, great instrumentation, and cool ass syncopation. Plus I'm a sucker for adaptive music anywhere.
@Manzie1000
@Manzie1000 2 жыл бұрын
Such a great video and explanation of how to add this modal colour to a musical palette. Also, the Lego Island clips unlocked a chest of childhood memories. Thank you.
@noahsan92
@noahsan92 2 жыл бұрын
this channel is AMAZING
@vgmkas
@vgmkas 2 жыл бұрын
Just some thoughts: I've had the same idea of "fake Lydian" for a long time myself, when using the IV-iii or IV-V in major, specifically with Green Hill Zone and Lost Woods as well! I actually hear Zelda's Lullaby as fake Lydian myself. While C does sound like the tonic initially to me, the sharp 4th is missing from the melody which would probably help cement it as Lydian to my ear. It instantly sounds like G Major to me after bar 4. It's definitely a more ambiguous one though! Space Junk Galaxy is one of the most definitive examples to me, no way to hear it other than Lydian. Some other examples I hear as Lydian are Mount Ordeals and Mt. Koltz from Final Fantasy 4 and 6 respectively (with Mt. Koltz switching between Ab Lydian to G Lydian). As a bonus, the Wrong Enemy theme from Undertale is Lydian Dominant for the first section.
@DBK415
@DBK415 2 жыл бұрын
Check out secret practice from Final Fantasy 12. Alternatives between C mixolydian and Gb lydian.
@vgmkas
@vgmkas 2 жыл бұрын
@@DBK415 good example for both Mixolydian and Lydian! I hear Mixolydian b6 for a part of the song as well (or at least I-iv).
@vgmkas
@vgmkas 2 жыл бұрын
@@dacomputernerd4096 The opening and ending are a great example of Lydian! Even the middle section (while not Lydian) features the #4 at times.
@DBK415
@DBK415 2 жыл бұрын
@@vgmkas Yep Final Fantasy 12 has lot of unusual modes. Lydian augmented , whole tone , mixolydian b6.
@729MendicantTide
@729MendicantTide 2 жыл бұрын
Pokemon Tower from the original Red/Blue/Yellow (FRLG by extension).
@ZOB4
@ZOB4 2 жыл бұрын
Good analysis - it was interesting to see the notes F#, A, C analyzed as a C6(#4) as opposed to F#dim in Zelda's Lullaby. Shows the impact listening has rather than just looking at the notes on the page.
@joa.barrera
@joa.barrera 2 жыл бұрын
For me it feels like a D/C. I think this is more accurate when talking in a modal context because the use of pedal points is so common... Even if there's no D at the moment the chord plays. I hope this make any sense lol
@strayingwill
@strayingwill 2 жыл бұрын
@@joa.barrera ye I also hear it as a D/C. What z.browning mentions also popped in my mind when looking at the music. “Huh, isn’t that just F#dim. But it doesn’t SOUND like an F#dim”.
@AtomizedSound
@AtomizedSound 2 жыл бұрын
@@strayingwill I get that, it’s all about those voicings in music and how they overall sound in context rather than I guess just what the notes may look like on page. Since many chords as we know can have many different names depending upon function and context
@infinitefretboard
@infinitefretboard 2 жыл бұрын
@@joa.barrera I hear it as D/C. Quintessential Lydian progression to go from I-II.
@isaacwilton4610
@isaacwilton4610 Жыл бұрын
But there's the pedal tone of C in the bass
@nickguitarfiorentino
@nickguitarfiorentino 2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed the examples of “fake” or implied uses of the Lydian. Also loved hearing things like Yoshi’s story with Lydian vs regular Major scale. Hope you keep doing more of these they’re awesome!!!
@Ocarinist_Drew
@Ocarinist_Drew 2 жыл бұрын
Man, I'd love to see you do videos on each of the modes. This video was very eye opening. I think the way that modes are taught in school just does them no justice whatsoever.
@vgmkas
@vgmkas 2 жыл бұрын
The whole "Dorian is C Major but start on D" thing is a problem lmao
@Ocarinist_Drew
@Ocarinist_Drew 2 жыл бұрын
@@vgmkas Exactly! It's just the wrong way to think about modes in multiple ways. It's much more useful to think about them like "It's the major scale but slightly brighter, with a raised 4th."
@LEEEEEEEEEEE1
@LEEEEEEEEEEE1 2 жыл бұрын
Always brightens up my day to see a new 8 Bit Music Theory video!
@ZTimeGamingYT
@ZTimeGamingYT 2 жыл бұрын
This was a very easy musical lesson to digest.
@smelly4498
@smelly4498 2 жыл бұрын
i know nothing about music or music theory but these videos help me appreciate the skill and creativity that goes into these pieces i wouldn’t have given a second thought to otherwise :)
@Vanderlism
@Vanderlism 2 жыл бұрын
I’m glad I’m not alone in being perpetually uncertain of which key Zelda’s lullaby is in. The A section to me still feels like G, with a B section following the common pattern of switching keys to the relative IV
@vgmkas
@vgmkas 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely hear it as G as well!
@GonzaloBasterra
@GonzaloBasterra 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! I personally think Zelda's Lullaby is a "fake" lydian as well, being C the IV of G (without resolving into G) whereas the B section is a modulation to C that also implements the same "fake lydian" chord progression, which actually does resolves in C the first time (in comparison to section A) and then leading us back to G. But of course we can agree to disagree :) Keep up the great work!
@mynameisnotdavid6202
@mynameisnotdavid6202 2 жыл бұрын
this video reminded of how much i love the soundtrack from Paper Mario TTYD. such an underrated game
@Josh_Fredman
@Josh_Fredman 2 жыл бұрын
You keep outdoing yourself in finding new ways to shout out Perplexing Pool!! 😂 I am very much looking forward to Dorian and Mixolydian, probably my two favorite modes of major along with Lydian itself.
@nthgth
@nthgth Жыл бұрын
The main _Back to the Future_ theme is forever my favorite example. Interestingly, "Part of Your World" from _the Little Mermaid_ has almost the same first few chords, even after the Lydian stuff
@DBK415
@DBK415 2 жыл бұрын
Informative as always. Mt ordeals from Final Fantasy 4 alternates between Lydian and Dorian.
@fortisch
@fortisch Жыл бұрын
i love your channel purely for the fact, that i have been ranting about no one caring enough about pokemon soundtracks, which are a masterpiece, most of all the first 3 gens. Love your stuff, keep it up
@liquidsolids9415
@liquidsolids9415 2 жыл бұрын
This was fantastic. The pizza metaphor was perfect. Thank you for the lesson!
@TimBagels
@TimBagels 2 жыл бұрын
Man. My brain does not have the structure to retain any of these music theory basics, but I appreciate all the videos regardless
@maksimbondarchuk8953
@maksimbondarchuk8953 Жыл бұрын
Your videos so good with those examples. "Sounds like adventure begun" is actualy what I needed
@justryland
@justryland 2 жыл бұрын
I'm loving seeing humour take a bit more of a role in these videos! It's great at humanizing yourself, and even helps explain what you mean in more memorable and understandable terms!
@ianlarsen3920
@ianlarsen3920 2 жыл бұрын
I love the Lydian scale and I'm glad this video was done, but what I love even more is how this whole video is a pizza analogy.
@wanderingrandomer
@wanderingrandomer 2 жыл бұрын
2:46 Your pronunciation of Ecruteak City threw me for a loop! I had to pause the video so I didn't get hung up on it and miss what you were saying
@XavierExel
@XavierExel 2 жыл бұрын
One of my new favorite videos from you. Pure excellence!
@cablebee8790
@cablebee8790 2 жыл бұрын
I was about to comment about how none of the examples were Lydian before you revealed your devious master plan. Lmao I love this channel so much
@PerpetuallyTiredMillennial
@PerpetuallyTiredMillennial Жыл бұрын
My sister-in-law surprised my brother by having the quartet play a rendition of Zelda's Lullaby as she walked down the aisle. The song is fittingly timeless.
@nthgth
@nthgth Жыл бұрын
OH MY GOD that's perfect
@terdragontra8900
@terdragontra8900 2 жыл бұрын
The beautifully crafted ambiguous lydianness of zeldas lullaby gives it a quality i can only describe as delicate beauty. After listening to it enough, the C F#dim loop of the A section feels like a super unorthodox but super colorful resolution to me.
@amiwan9596
@amiwan9596 2 жыл бұрын
these videos are awesome man! I'm at a point in my guitar playing where I've got a good grasp of major scale, and most of the modes in it so this series of examples applying them is a real eye opener to me. I've always really gravitated towards suspended chords, quartal harmony and lydian so always been a sweetspot for me anyway lol
@thelanddwweller
@thelanddwweller Жыл бұрын
Growing up, I took piano lessons. I also competed at a state level in performance and in written theory exams. The one thing my classical piano education never really explained well to me was the concept of modes and how they can be used to analyze a piece of music. At 2:12 is the exact moment it finally clicked for me after years of vaguely understanding and following the concept, but never really being able to explain or use it for myself. This was a very well done video. Thank you!
@sh1r013
@sh1r013 5 ай бұрын
Thats crazy to me that they don't teach this, this just proves to me even more that the classical teachers are idiots, (i think jazz players are worse) the medieval music is where its at, even in the baroque era modes were still intentionally deployed quite commonly.
@cyberskelet0n
@cyberskelet0n 2 жыл бұрын
Man, it feels like an oversight not bringing up Jiggywiggy's Temple on this list. What a clear and well-constructed example of the Lydian mode. Gotta love Grant Kirkhope.
@pAWNproductionsDE
@pAWNproductionsDE 2 жыл бұрын
Not only do I appreciate a video on one of my favorite modes, but the pizza analogy makes a ton of sense! I'll definitely be trying some of these 3 out next time I want to play around in various modes
@veronicaloki
@veronicaloki 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see some of the other modes explored personally! I’ve always loved Phrygian
@teflonswagger9666
@teflonswagger9666 7 ай бұрын
you've made learning theory genuinely interesting and I understand it far better now because of your informative videos. big ups
@lumigpictures
@lumigpictures 2 жыл бұрын
Almost wrote an angry letter because of the beginning section 😅 Man, you’re awesome! In the end I don’t think I agree with the centricity of Zelda’s lullaby, or even Rogueport; both initial chords feel kinda like IV chords to me, but it just goes to show how hard it is to see actual Lydian examples in music! I’ve got huge respect for your view in music, and I’ll surely recommend this video to people who want to learn something about modes. Great analysis!
@pieromancer208
@pieromancer208 2 жыл бұрын
I dont know if your going to see this, but I LOVE this channel. Truly underrated. I really hope you continue doing this work in the future and see lots of success!
@tanmanharris4820
@tanmanharris4820 2 жыл бұрын
All these songs are so good and so iconic, and some of them I could never explain why I liked them so much. Now I know that I just really like lydian mode.
@matthewgonzalez2555
@matthewgonzalez2555 2 жыл бұрын
I would argue that lost woods is a true Lydian sound as the emotional quality is style bright, with a lot of lift. I also really enjoyed how you mentioned the emotional quality part and used the word “bright” I think often times when people are learning about modes and especial in jazz they are taught “oh C Ionian goes over the one chord, play d Dorian over the ii chord and G mixolydian over the V chord”. And technically they are right, but that’s for very “diatonic” jazz. Where As modal jazz deals with a lot more parallel chords, similar moving upper structures, or holding the same upper structure while moving the bass around. And all of that is done with the intention of creating emotions in the quality in the harmony. Anyways, I think this is a great masterclass in modal theory and is a very good way to teach it! Thank you so much!
@turtlezinthesky
@turtlezinthesky 2 жыл бұрын
So what you're saying is Silk Sonic was inspired by Pokemon Gold & Silver when they wrote Leave The Door Open
@zacharywong483
@zacharywong483 2 жыл бұрын
Your videos are absolutely incredible! Stupendous explanations, brilliantly curated examples, and illuminating transcriptions! Bravo!
@AndrewCheshire
@AndrewCheshire 2 жыл бұрын
Abandon Kansas' song "The Golden State" is in Lydian the whole time, dancing around never using the actual 4 chord just like you said... But then the very last chord of the song they finally play a real 4 and the singer follows it in, and it's just DELICIOUS.
@douglasmason6067
@douglasmason6067 2 жыл бұрын
This is some of your best work! One thing I would add is that the mode isn’t just defined by chords and your melody pitch set, but also which pitches are accented or fall on the downbeats. The Sonjc example is clearly in C Ionian, but paused on F Lydian, because it emphasizes C E and G in the melody, even though the harmony sits on F, telling our ear to expect resolution to C not F. What I do to test this intuitively is let my mind continue the melody without the harmony and ask myself which pitch feels most resolved.
@theIpatix
@theIpatix 2 жыл бұрын
I would reeaaaaaly love to see such a video about the Mixolydian mode (also kind of to test my own amerteur understanding of music, hehe). Keep up the great work, thanks for the inspiration!
@singsongdan249
@singsongdan249 2 жыл бұрын
The pizza analogy is incredible and the use of Lego Island footage even more incredible such a good video!! ❤️
@artclasswarfare
@artclasswarfare Жыл бұрын
I’m loving the mode examples in video game music. Keep ‘em up
@yell0
@yell0 2 жыл бұрын
Great video as always!! When people talk about lydian mode in videogame music my first thought is always Mario Galaxy. I think they really owned the lydian mode, mostly in the first game. It hits so hard in the main theme for example, straight to the face. But there's another game that does it really well and has such an amazing use of lydian, mostly in melodies. Genshin Impact's main theme is a melody in lydian and they use it so damn good in the entire OST, really recommend you giving it a listen because it's one of the best soundtracks i've ever listened to!
@EvelynZaneta
@EvelynZaneta 2 жыл бұрын
So someone recommended me this channel, saying that my newest composition actually uses lydian mode, I swear the more I learn, the more I know that there are so many things that I don't know 😂 thanks for this video! Very informative! Cute graphics as well, I want some pizza now
@smergthedargon8974
@smergthedargon8974 2 жыл бұрын
I use pure Lydian (or Lydian Dominant, or both 7ths at once) all the time. It's not difficult to nearly the same degree as Locrian (although I've made a banger song in Locrian, too!) It's not "pure" Lydian, but one of my favorite Lydian tricks is to have one bar be in Lydian on a maj7 root chord, then you move down a whole step and play another maj7 chord, suddenly swapping you into Mixolydian. Love the sound and feel this creates. Hell, I have one song that the chords swap between Lydian _Augmented_ as the first chord and normal Lydian as the second chord throughout the song.
@darknightmike10yearsago
@darknightmike10yearsago 2 жыл бұрын
That would not be pure Lydian, but I get what you mean. I think using the Lydian sound over multiple chords with modal interchange really opens up a world of possibilities!
@smergthedargon8974
@smergthedargon8974 2 жыл бұрын
@@darknightmike10yearsago Yeah, it's not pure Lydian - it's a swap between Lydian and Mixolydian in a really fun and interesting-sounding way.
@lambiepie6436
@lambiepie6436 2 жыл бұрын
Most of these terms are going over my head but I can’t get enough of these videos lol
@MrWizard333
@MrWizard333 2 жыл бұрын
Bro this is fantastic. What a great way to connect with theory.
@kylemacdougall8355
@kylemacdougall8355 2 жыл бұрын
Or you could legally change your name to Lydia. Then all of the music you write will technically be "Lydian!"
@nikosucksatskating
@nikosucksatskating Жыл бұрын
Bravo
@iantaakalla8180
@iantaakalla8180 Жыл бұрын
You could also write a song about Lydia like Groucho Marx did.
@Dragonman204
@Dragonman204 2 жыл бұрын
Another example of a song (well, more like a jingle) in lydian having an almost whimsical nature would be Clefairy's Song from the mini game in Pokemon Stadium.
@VexylObby
@VexylObby 2 жыл бұрын
When I saw the thumbnail, I KNEW we were going to touch on Mario Galaxy. Lydian has been injected into our brains as consumers as the "Spacey" or "Floaty" mode. That game is full of it, as most space games are. Holst did this too, as well as Satriani and Vai. It's everywhere with astronauts in the picture too. Hopefulness and aspirational soundtracks chock full of it. And that Mario cadence also sounds an awful like Kiss From a Rose.... Hm.... ;)
@KujoA2
@KujoA2 2 жыл бұрын
Zelda's Lullaby is in G. Fight me. Actually I think it's never supposed to resolve, and that's the point. But I think the turnaround/resolution at 8:50 is much stronger than the one at 9:11. That's why it's repeated twice, and the bridge is not, and even the bridge melody suggests G as a tonic. Or Koji Kondo wrote a melody in G and harmonized it in C Lydian. The fact that we don't know and that it keeps pulling us back and forth is why it's such a classic.
@vgmkas
@vgmkas 2 жыл бұрын
I definitely agree with it being in G as well. The turnaround just overpowers any Lydian feel that was present prior and forces me to hear G as the tonic from there on.
@BorntoYeet
@BorntoYeet 2 жыл бұрын
@@vgmkas yeah, his Cmaj7 to C6(#4) sounds like a reach when you can literally just interpret it as Cmaj7 to D7/C, a simple IV-V. The melody (in the A section) also make more sense in g if you interpret it as 3-5-2, 1-2-3-5-2
@EnigmaHarper
@EnigmaHarper 2 жыл бұрын
I have learned that the lydian mode gives me tingles. It is just so bright.
@senarodrigo
@senarodrigo 2 жыл бұрын
Incredible video! Really amazing music choices and super clear explanations
@SvintMvrcus
@SvintMvrcus 2 жыл бұрын
I always wondered what makes sharpening the 4th sound so good but it never clicked that it was the Lydian mode. Makes sense now!
@enjoyablechaos505
@enjoyablechaos505 2 жыл бұрын
Usually I don’t understand some things in your videos but they are still very interesting even as someone who doesn’t have as much knowledge or experience with music theory
@longshotomega4258
@longshotomega4258 2 жыл бұрын
I think one of my favorite Lydian video game jams is the opening music in Bart vs. the Space Mutants.
@reev9759
@reev9759 2 жыл бұрын
That Lego pizza game clip was pretty hilarious.
@violet_broregarde
@violet_broregarde 2 жыл бұрын
Zelda's Lullaby's A section is in garden variety G ionian. If you hum a G and a C underneath it, you'll see what I'm talking about. Also its B section sounds like it's in D? Dorian I guess? I'm not terribly confident there but I am certain that the A section is in G.
@vgmkas
@vgmkas 2 жыл бұрын
Agree with it being in G! I hear it as that "fake lydian" sound.
@markmarketing7365
@markmarketing7365 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure if this counts, but there's Bowser's Pinball machine from Mario Party DS track that I think would count as Lydian, albeit lydian b7. Absolutely crazy track in terms of music theory, goes all over the place so I'm not at all sure of this. It's using C and Cdim a lot, so the flat 4 is really pronounced. Eventually it then eventually lands on a really nice major section in D where the sharp 4 gets a cosy new home. Not for long though, it's immediately kicked out again by the F. Sad times indeed. 9/10 would recommend the track.
@calebbean1384
@calebbean1384 2 жыл бұрын
Same scale as the Simpson theme lol
@theLadyofSpoons
@theLadyofSpoons 2 жыл бұрын
ok i know like nothing about music theory, so almost all of this goes over my head, but when he played the example of the lydian mode by itself, i did immediately recognize it as the end of level fanfare from super mario bros 3
@valentinnapoli5740
@valentinnapoli5740 2 жыл бұрын
Best turnkey solution to use modes. THANK YOU SO MUCH!
@RattlesnakeJakey
@RattlesnakeJakey Жыл бұрын
5:50 graphic footage of link getting his face impaled with a spear. Just brutal.
@poecollector64
@poecollector64 2 жыл бұрын
This is a great series. I'm still learning the joys of modal composition lol. I picked up most of my music theory just by hanging out with legit musicians and never had any formal training, so I remember last year when I was working on an arrangement of Vaati's theme from the Legend of Zelda I was desperately trying to figure out if it was major or minor and then I suddenly realized "oh fuck me it's in phrygian mode."
@thegreatapathetic9836
@thegreatapathetic9836 2 жыл бұрын
Oh my… this is what I came here for. It’s all been leading up to this.
@skylarfox_bmb
@skylarfox_bmb 2 жыл бұрын
loving these mode analyses! I hope you do dorian next, that's my favorite as a jazz fan. it's like minor with a sharp 6 kick that I always end up abusing
@EruRoraito040
@EruRoraito040 2 жыл бұрын
Im so in love with your videos. Keep it up man! Maybe Phrygian next?
@VoyagerMusic
@VoyagerMusic 2 жыл бұрын
I just want to say thank you for showing the Ecruteak City theme, was my first time hearing in it and I fell in love instantly. Thanks Mr 8 Bit Music Theory
@Logicalleaping
@Logicalleaping 2 жыл бұрын
Your videos are the most I've used my music degree for. Love them heaps keep it up :D
@MrCompassionate01
@MrCompassionate01 2 жыл бұрын
Bit by bit understanding more and more of what this guy is talking about by learning music theory.
@DawidWoot
@DawidWoot 2 жыл бұрын
Love how you implemented the pizza analogy. Perfect!
@elwahou
@elwahou 2 жыл бұрын
Loved the Pizza metaphor, and banger examples as always!
@skylermccoy8214
@skylermccoy8214 2 жыл бұрын
Just as in all characteristics of music, effect is achieved mostly with contrast. Good modal composition is generally done when it is shared with tonal/ionian writing. When we go between hearing a natural 4 and then suddenly hear a #4, we are astonished with the beautiful sound of Lydian. Yoda’s Theme is a great example. C - D/C - C - D/C - C - dm - C# - C (the tritone sub is great, as it also uses the natural 4 and the melody goes ^4 - ^3 at the resolution to C). The C# is later traded for a root position V7 - I (functional harmony being of emphasis here, once again - contrast). The same can be said with almost any dorian mode piece/song… using b6 and raised 6 at strategic times lets the sound of the mode shine through
@axzw__
@axzw__ 2 жыл бұрын
NEW VIDEO FROM 8BIT THEORY *dies from banger*
@escape_world
@escape_world 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, this is an amazing resource! So creative, it makes the concepts pop (unlike some theory books). Thanks for all the work you're doing🙌🏼🎼 I'll be first in line if you ever release a book!😁.
@caffeineadvocate
@caffeineadvocate 2 жыл бұрын
You're giving away all the good band names. First 'Locrian Crauwnch' and now 'Modal Cheese'... 🙂
@michaelclements5793
@michaelclements5793 2 жыл бұрын
If you're into classical music a good Lydian example is #9 from Visions Fugitives by Prokofiev. My piano teacher was trying to describe the key "it seems like E but it ends in A". I told him it's in A Lydian and he was like "oh you know more about that than me." I owe everything I know about modes to this channel and others like it (Adam Neely, David Bennett). It's not taught in traditional music theory, which is a shame because it is so valuable and pervasive in classical and modern music.
@alejandro52612
@alejandro52612 2 жыл бұрын
Tons of great musical knowledge in these videos!!
@MEnne12719
@MEnne12719 2 жыл бұрын
I Just finished watching an hour of videos about mixing and a music theory video pops out yay
@arpeggi4596
@arpeggi4596 2 жыл бұрын
this made modes finally make so much sense
@octoberonvox
@octoberonvox 2 жыл бұрын
I can't wait for the Phrygian episode - I already see Brock with the maracas in my head every time because of your previous reference to it being relegated to vaguely Spanish sounding duties
@wolftickets1969
@wolftickets1969 Жыл бұрын
In Ori and the Blind Forest, the Misty Woods BGM is initially an eerie piece based on a whole tone scale(AKA the "dream" scale), but changes to a much more hopeful Lydian melody after you light the Shrouded Lantern and clear the mists.
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