I think a big part of the meta you missed was the suppressor meta, which lasted as long as the old silent killer skill was around, basically acing the skill would give suppressed weapons a 30% damage boost. This was taken by everyone, and made revolver and other weapons that couldn't be supressed clowns
@Sheridanv1 Жыл бұрын
Still playing this meta in the switch version
@artyom2801 Жыл бұрын
I got a detail to fill in pre-crimefest 2014, technically perk bonuses were a thing, dubbed skill tree tiers, but were ones that were split around each tree if you invested enough on a skill tree, reinforcing the idea of player identity with a singular unchangeable build. Dodge was apparently a thing before then as pointed out by JamesBlack47's rant video regarding Grinder trumping everything.
@Bay1k2 жыл бұрын
"Are you a boomer who wanna fill in the gaps?" I am putting my pride aside so there it goes. Gage mod courier was game changing. It pioneered the car-4 and loco meta. This was before the perk deck introduction. There were some odd weapons choices such as Gruber but car-4 loco masterforcer dominated the meta. Till the perk decks introduction that is. Fugitive tree introduced alongside with perk decks. This tree had first aid kits and bullseye which are in still the meta. Crimefest 2015 weapon changes are still in effect to this very day. The hipfire debuff was removed, lmg and minigun speed penalties removed, every shotgun was given 12 pellets. I think dragons breath was also buffed to its current state but not quite sure about that one. This state lasted years aside from occasional damage buffs to keep the guns relevant on higher difficulties. One down was a mistake. Aside from that usual power creep with dlc weapons. I am going back to my slumber now.
@CarrotIsBad2 жыл бұрын
Booooooooomer
@soariticus69442 жыл бұрын
dont listen to the carrot you're so sexy when you use your knowledge
@hobo6382 жыл бұрын
hey i played with you on a pub great player would play again 1
@CYB3Redux Жыл бұрын
there's a boomer 'round here
@ethancobb40022 жыл бұрын
Your channel is 100% without a doubt 2nd monitor material.
@unclegeldgeil2 жыл бұрын
I remember back in 2013 before DW anything that wasn't ICTV was essentially garbage, even if just CTV. Anybody with a level of 80 (no infamy because that didn't exist either) were gods as well and would have carried you through any Heist. DW at release was insanely difficult, even with toptier players back in the day it was almost impossible to beat until Perk Decks came around and also probably because players improved. While Dodge was pretty much Meta other stuff like a fine Muscle ICTV setup did the job just as good. It's just that noone used that. I also want to mention how the community didn't change whatsoever over the years, a pub DW Big Bank from 2014 would have the same people joining that would have picked a DS Big Bank nowadays lol Anyway, no KZbinr Tierlist, I am mad. Unsubscribed.
@CarrotIsBad2 жыл бұрын
Chad 2013 level 80 vs Virgin 2022 infamy 500 level 100 Resub pls
@c3lest1na452 жыл бұрын
I am very surprising that community being this way since dawn of time. I taught community start being this way when ultimate edition and when the game price tag lowered by alot. But anyways good to know that the community is this ignorance since dawn of time
@GHOST259382 жыл бұрын
@@c3lest1na45 well gamers are gamers afterall, CSGO also Always was toxic even before it became free to play don't get me started on 360 or ps3 cod Lobbys, they where toxic before People ate sh... Payday Always was ignorant or toxic towards starters, I would actually say it got way better nower days, I'm getting in so Many great stealth pub Lobbys with just randoms trying to beat firestarter in stealth. Back in the days you got kicked from a stealth lobby if you had a Level below 40
@rabbit71592 жыл бұрын
carrot talks about how good the controller tree is, then later proceeds to kill some jokers
@zackfake12532 жыл бұрын
I was one of the release plebs, and on ps3 no less, but i still remember the raw power you felt the first time you got to use the mosconi, those very hard swat had no idea what hit them
@s0rdini2772 жыл бұрын
Your videos helped me get more creative with how i make builds, also keep up the good work
@gok76272 жыл бұрын
I honestly loved the first DSOD crossbow javelin meta
@xxdoge105xx3 Жыл бұрын
I remember when I used to main crew chief with ICTV and a bronco revolver with a primary double barrel shotgun with flame shells, that build was fun
@rapsarG Жыл бұрын
I'm very late to this party but I have boomer stories to fill in that i didn't see others bring up. In the beginning was the holy duo. The techforcer and masterforcer. Both in ICTV, both with loco and whatever. One had inspire and medbags, the other had 50% more armor and ammo bags or c4 as the heist demanded. We rushed rats on overkill for XP and blew up the lab on purpose, all was well. You have already heard the stories of mod courier and the car 4 meta that followed. We built for 40 damage to one hit tans on death wish and 18 accuracy. The next massive change was the shotgun pack. It brought a new king, the HE shotgun. It killed shields from the front, it stunned everything and took the faceplate off dozers easily. Soon after the judge arrived and car-4 and HE judge became high meta. Hoxton breakout brought perk decks and the rest you know. Aside from one small detail. The balloons were not the strongest meta. The strongest meta lasted but a weekend when overkill pushed an update that accidentally made it so you could get 100% dodge with rogue by making a skill that should be 5% dodge 50% with a typo. This was in the grinder era unless I'm misremembering.
@llmkursk82542 жыл бұрын
Hi ma! Thanks for the explanations! Helps put some of the game into perspective. I do think the detail of *Kingpin is now unavailable on Steam* was an important one to miss, though, considering how much fun it can be.
@Actively_Schizoing2 жыл бұрын
I recently started using ex-president. It's good, but I think the dodge chance should be replaced with something else that helps the deck no matter what you're building instead of just giving you 15 dodge that does nothing relaible or nothing at all unless you're stacking dodge. Also your health reserve shouldn't reset if you regen 0 health.
@vam_ola2 жыл бұрын
It's a healthgate deck. When your armor is broken, the regenerative boost blocks health damage to "gate it". That's why it should be depleted if no regen.
@Actively_Schizoing2 жыл бұрын
@@vam_ola Doesn't health regen only when your armor recovers?
@vam_ola2 жыл бұрын
@@Actively_Schizoing No. It happens .7 seconds before so.,
@Actively_Schizoing2 жыл бұрын
@@vam_ola but you still need it to regen
@jrk16662 жыл бұрын
maybe it could store 15% of health and save it for the next charge
@Stone_Rock2 жыл бұрын
Back in the days you can get 50% dodge by default and +25% when running, it was good memories.
@Protog3n_pd25 ай бұрын
49% Dodge to be more correct, suit grants 24% dodge with ghost skill tier boosts and duck and cover ace gives +25% when sprinting, resulting in 49% Still would go for flak jacket instead
@Stone_Rock5 ай бұрын
@@Protog3n_pd2 I dont know why would you want to reply to a comment that is 2 years old. But I'm sure that back in the days (around 2014-2016) there was a time you can get default 45% dodge with rouge and 5% dodge with suit, and then pair it with Sneaky Bastard (+10% with low detection rate) and Duck and Cover aced while sprinting (+10%) and bot will get you 5% more dodge rate so you really can get 75% dodge rate. You can search the long guide in steam payday 2 guide, in the dodge section it just says that. I DO know rogue got nerf now and only get like 50% or 49% or whatever but I quit playing this game like 1 or 2 years ago and I DO say it is good memories and not this game's present state.
@pachicore2 жыл бұрын
Okay okay here's an original meme Thermal drill
@stevie82712 жыл бұрын
gentlemen, it seems to me that you have forgotten the oxygen lance. please, go acquire it.
@adrianosiciliano2 жыл бұрын
Actually in 2013 the lightweigt vest was meta, with the free dodge from ghost skill true bonus you could dodge, run fast and tank a few shots. I know these because recently i played the PS3 payday2 which is stuck in the 2013 chrismas update. Oh and the best rifle was the commando 556, 40 dmg (1tap to the head) with high firerate and good pickup , the only downside was the avg accuracy of 12 which is fine for killing snipers anyways.
@adrianosiciliano2 жыл бұрын
This was all on Overkill since ps3 payday 2 doesnt have DW
@rezzybezzy9182 жыл бұрын
Love the vids man keep it up
@TheLunarmack2 жыл бұрын
Congrats on the 8K subs Daucus carota One thing that I felt should have been mentioned in the meta part of the video is the Gage Spec Ops Pack as this DLC introduced the world to speedpull magazines and allowed the izhma shotgun to become the DB/crit shotgun to use on OD
@joeyabro75002 жыл бұрын
Dude you hit 7k like 2 months ago, please slow down, jokes aside keep up the good work
@CarrotIsBad2 жыл бұрын
It’s not on purpose, I swear 😢
@joeyabro75002 жыл бұрын
@@CarrotIsBad wdym you 100% just choose how many subs you get
@tare104ka2 жыл бұрын
yay im in the TV! cant wait for pd3 tierliests in 2023
@marcintandek12622 жыл бұрын
you've got me to Payday and now its my favorite game. thx Carrot
@Remon_2 жыл бұрын
Grimm was meta at one point prior to the shotgun nerfs, it was, i would argue, quite a big part of meta at one point. Shotguns used to be fucking snipers overkill + frenzy + crits, you could wipe shit with grimms.
@joe-p2q7i10 ай бұрын
dallas needs a medic bag? who is with me, carrot HATERS
@Bova-Fett8 ай бұрын
Big thing to note is at one point Shotguns were arguably the meta with how easy they were to use. This is especially true prior to the range modifier changes.
@wincentzakaszewski55742 жыл бұрын
cooking video for next one
@thischannelisnotinuse84462 жыл бұрын
Didn’t expect this but I really needed this lol
@Armetzger Жыл бұрын
I miss the days when Crook was seen as "Meta" and Sneaky bastard aced was more common because we didn't need to min max the skill tree to get every tiny amount of benefit from the skill trees like counting the exact amount of calories in a meal prep instead of just getting takeout.
@neverweaken13182 жыл бұрын
Dallas: “ahhhh I neeed a medic baaag.”
@teko6132 жыл бұрын
When DW came out i recall everyone using ICTV, shotgun builds or both. Fun times stunning a bulldozer with HE rounds
@hatmann56972 жыл бұрын
bullseye came out with fugitive but people didnt really take advantage of it until armour gating became more talked about
@yew87072 жыл бұрын
0:56 holy shit! another wii u defender? i thought i was the only one left!
@homeless11112 жыл бұрын
2:42 Confidence+
@RicoTheExMongolianSlave2 жыл бұрын
Missed the part in the show where the developers tragically abandoned console
@Borrfsv2 жыл бұрын
Keep up the amazing work💚
@adrianosiciliano2 жыл бұрын
The lions roar has one downside...ITS UGLY AS SIN. Its looks like a knock off toy
@atmosdwagon46562 жыл бұрын
Considering that most of Overkill's method of model production is to scan Airsoft replicas of real world weapons that comment is closer to the truth than you probably intended.
@vam_ola2 жыл бұрын
yoooo orange vegetable gets history degree
@zombieboss51782 жыл бұрын
Dallas Needs a Medicbag, go get it
@XDontscam2 жыл бұрын
just amazing
@staufackar21352 жыл бұрын
1:01 senpai noticed me :3
@iamnotcreativeenoughtomake2692 жыл бұрын
Do you know what senpai means (don’t google it)
@staufackar21352 жыл бұрын
@@iamnotcreativeenoughtomake269 well, carrot is more experienced than me so i don't think i was wrong there.
@tecno_gamer43082 жыл бұрын
Wii U has PAYDAY 2.
@wsghomie34382 жыл бұрын
DALLAS I NEEED A MEDIC BAG!
@SaladaSla2 жыл бұрын
"is the video main monitor material, or second monitor material" while i'm watching on my second monitor playing cod zombies Edit: I'm starting to think that the zombies is the second monitor material
@zombiespersonalchanal4792 жыл бұрын
i think stoic git popular when the rushan badger made his pd2 vids'
@axtro2k1492 жыл бұрын
whats the build you are playing in the background of the vid? looks fun
@someidiot98722 жыл бұрын
I stopped playing payday after becoming infamous
@redchiron66472 жыл бұрын
8:44 HACHAMA
@zenith_fn2 жыл бұрын
Quick question : which perk deck needs A buff the most?
@ComissarYarrick2 жыл бұрын
Gambler IMHO. Healing you get is almost non-existing, because of this stupid 3sec cooldown between heal from each ammo pickup ( wich you generaly do in bulk ). Full hp reset (but not downs reset ) from useing ammo bag would also fit it's theme. Biker, maniac and tag team could also use some care from overkill. Tho in case of tag team, I'm not sure if perk deck is truly bad, or just so few people have it ( and even fewer know how to use it right ).
@ihatethatyoutubedisplaysyo81062 жыл бұрын
Yakuza. I know it's good in stealth, but I wish there was a proper reason to use it in loud. Extra runspeed doesn't really matter in a game with one shot snipers and hitscan green dozers.
@CaptainAlpha9532 жыл бұрын
fixing b33croft one shot dozer build when
@MIHUKI52 жыл бұрын
I'm a boomer who still plays Rogue and Grinder 👀👀
@rooklovesmost97162 жыл бұрын
1:02 deheheheh Das me
@Namatokunsi2 жыл бұрын
Carbonara & Calzone have been the true meta ngl Btw bullying players in tier lists is funny so do it 0.o
@howdee_2 жыл бұрын
I was wondering why do you call yourself carrot?
@swerrve2 жыл бұрын
The wii u is a great console, I agree
@CarrotIsBad2 жыл бұрын
Amen
@manisgoing2 жыл бұрын
what's the mod that sorts the lobbies in crimenet? edit: also for bi-weekly can you try some flechette
@vam_ola2 жыл бұрын
cleaned crime net
@reallyfake_but_falselyreal76982 жыл бұрын
When is rule 34 of carrot coming
@that_dwayneee2 жыл бұрын
Be the change you want to see in this world
@shiori002 жыл бұрын
@@that_dwayneee based
@patrikv.ivanus40882 жыл бұрын
56s ago epic gaming
@duckduck40732 жыл бұрын
Release an audiobook
@kevinbrown63542 жыл бұрын
1:11 das me
@ternasius2 жыл бұрын
would you play my funky build
@soariticus69442 жыл бұрын
you're bald but congrats on 8k
@PrtapayEscapeAST2 жыл бұрын
make better content, then I will stop the medic bag memes jk love you
@hatmann56972 жыл бұрын
every payday video is second monitor material except tutorals, knowley and russian badger