9 Month Ownership Update - Honest Update of 2nd Gen Lexus NX

[@jpmtgsvc]

Hi LFST, my NX450H was delivered on Nov of this year and I must say it is such wonderful compact SUV. And I do watch all your uploads and find it very useful. Thanks my friend.

[@lsft]

Glad you like them! Happy New Year!!!

[@peter300pete]

Thanks for all those details and sharing with us. Here is my experience with my 350h in 2.5 months so far. When I got the car it was beginning to get colder, so I didn't use AC or heating in almost the first 2 weeks. To test the fuel economy, I have been driving it unbelievably gently and slowly that it sometimes drives other drivers crazy. The best fuel consumption I got at the beginning was around 6.5 L/K. With very little heating on , these days I can get 7 L/K at best. Just note that I am not using the car's computer to estimate fuel economy as they are inaccurate. I calculate that myself based on the actual gas consumption. I guess it is close to impossible to get around 6 L/k as claimed. All my driving is in the city.

[@lsft]

When it gets cold most cars need more engine to heat the cabin. Keep in mind the fuel economy is measured at best case scenario. You'll need to wait for the engine to break-in to get better economy as well. I'm still waiting for my 450h to really break in as i don't use the gas engine as much.

[@peter300pete]

@@lsft true. Thanks

[@Phong7080]

In cold weather, both ev and ice vehicles become less efficient

[@martinpanganiban3024]

Thank you very much for that great & very informative video that you shared.. it really helps a lot specially for new owners of nx 450h+ like me which is still on process of discovering the features of the said vehicle.. i hope you can do more videos in the future. 😊

[@lsft]

So nice of you! Hope you enjoy your 450h+ as well.

[@THEAC83]

Wow, you’re doing a nine month update and I still haven’t been given a build date! Haha Anyway, great update and have a Happy New Year!

[@lsft]

Haha. Yes I'm doing a 9 month update already. Soon it will be a one year update. I hope you'll get the build date soon!!! Happy New Year!!!

[@Larss70]

my estimated delivery is ...May.......2025 !!!! LOL

[@lsft]

@@Larss70 😱

[@THEAC83]

@@Larss70 oh wow! When did you order yours?

[@jean-marcdelbos2206]

Also 9 months of ownership on my side, every minor issues I found out since I own my NX450h+ are now solved, only the pleasure of driving in silence and pure comfort, and the extreme energy efficiency remain. To bring it closer to perfection - if possible, I just added the FitCamX (dashcam) and the AAWireless box (as Android Auto is available only wired in Europe). One important thing to add, to wish you all a very Happy New Year !

[@lsft]

Great to hear that most issues are resolved!!!! Happy New Year!!! Thanks for your support as well!!!

[@epcdasilent]

Great video. I will be picking up my NX 450h+ next week as I gave up on my RX 350H wait list spot. It will be F Sport USB mica with black interior. Very exciting time.

[@lsft]

Very nice. If I didn't pick the Cadmium Orange, it would have been the Ultrasonic Blue Mica 2, but my previous NX was USB2, so I wanted something different.

[@gns942]

The NX450h+ is a better vehicle than the RX350h anyway, made in Japan and it's a coveted PHEV.

[@epcdasilent]

@@lsft The orange is really nice, but I personally like blue. I also struggled with choosing either the red or black interior, but since the blue is such a vibrant color i thought the red may not match the blue too well and took the more neutral of color.

[@epcdasilent]

@@lsft It seems that there is a rear bumper protection strip that is a long narrow grey strip across the rear of the NX as a standard feature in Canada, just wondering if u have it, if u did, whats ur opinion on its look and usefulness for the vehicle, Thanks.

[@epcdasilent]

@@gns942The top trim of the RX350h is only 3k more than the Nx450h+, you get a bigger vehicle, more comfort and luxury, ML sound, pano roof but lose out on speed,and plug-in ability. It was a really hard choice for me.😢

[@TakedaKenshi]

Thanks for the very informative video. Looking forward to your future impressions.

[@lsft]

My pleasure!

[@mikebedford4362]

Great review! So informative - well done and thank you.

[@lsft]

Thank you!

[@ESolstice]

Great videos! In winter temps …Do you notice when in EVmode your engine runs often ? The only way I can get the vehicle to keep in ev is setting the cabin temp to 18 degrees or lower or just simply shutting off climate (but that’s not ideal) I’m in Alberta and temps are -20.

[@lsft]

Yes, even in EV mode, the heat pump is not efficient enough once it goes under -10℃ and would require the gas engine to quickly warm up the vehicle. The temperatures in Alberta for sure would cause the gas engine to run more often. I noticed that if I don't run the front defogger, the gas engine will not kick in, but once it goes under -10, it will run more often. Keep in mind this is a PHEV and not a pure EV. Expect winter months to use the engine and more gas, while in the spring, summer, fall months this shouldn't be a problem. You still save a lot more gas over the 350h.

[@sansinutube]

Which is better on snow (2 to 4 inches), NX 350 or RX 350? Also, how do the hybrids run on snow?

[@lsft]

Both would be the same. Majority of the powertrain and system are the same. Just a larger vehicle (heavier on the RX) might have a bigger advantage, but the smaller size of the NX could also be an advantage too. More nimble. The hybrids in snow are good. Don't really feel that much of a difference.

[@jagaro]

It is a great vehicle. We've had our NX450H since May and it has been flawless. We are averaging 2.2L/100KM with 7700KM driven. The app needs improvement which will happen. FWIW I purchased a new Tundra TRD PRO and they share the same app.

[@lsft]

You have driven more than I have. I'm similar km, but I picked up mine a few months before you did. Yes, the app needs improvement - especially in Canada. There are features that aren't available in Canada. 🤷

[@jagaro]

@@lsft We did a few road trips :) What's missing from the Canadian app?

[@lsft]

@@jagaro there are some trip information like mpg, charging information that hasn't shown up in our version. The US app has more data on usage

[@X.t.h.z]

My Corolla cross shared the same app as well 😅

[@lsft]

@@X.t.h.z All Toyota and Lexus vehicles use the same app

[@grahammeakin781]

Thank you, very informative and helpfull.

[@lsft]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@venicex605]

another problem for EV mode in winter is: the car warms up very slow. It takes about 30 min to start blow warm air , especially when outside temp< -10C.

[@lsft]

Yes, if you're using the gas engine it does take time to warm up. But the heated seat and heated steering wheel works very well.

[@Ayaron427]

Hey do you recommend to use up all the gas and fuel the tank every 3 months? If so how much gas do you purchase each time? Do you fill the tank completely? If I want I can always use EV mode and leave the gas untouched for maybe 6 months or more cause I don’t drive long distance, and I am not sure if that is safe or recommended.. Thanks in advance

[@lsft]

The 3 month guideline is what I am following myself. Gasoline will go stale over time and it could hurt your gas engine and may cause issues if you don't use it for a long period of time. Since the cost of filling up is not too much, I set to use a tank every 3 months. If you cannot use up a full tank, you can fill up only half a tank and use the half tank every 3 months. That way your car will be lighter and would be better for the EV range as well. In the winter, if you are using the front defogger, you may use the gas a lot more than other scenarios. So it depends on where you live and how cold it gets in the winter months. According to Lexus you only need to fill in 20L of fuel in a year, but you may want to play it safe. You don't want issues of the gasoline causing issues with the gas engine. A fill up every 3 months is not a lot of extra cost. But replacing or repairing the gas engine would be a lot more expensive and the car won't be as good as original at that time. Hope this helps.

[@Ayaron427]

@@lsft thank you so much! That’s helpful

[@wyouwin]

Hey LSFT, what’s the best way to break in the engine? Would you recommend driving hybrid for the first several months, or exclusively use engine (via charge)? You mention doing so would improve fuel economy. Thanks!

[@lsft]

If you are looking at running the engine, you should use hybrid mode. Charge mode is not as efficient. Using hybrid mode will operate the engine at less load and you'll get your money's worth of gasoline usage.

[@hanshensen8660]

Hi, a quick question: what is the highest amount of liters of petrol you have been able to put in the car so far? I am asking for the following reason: there are some car journalists that were never able to put more than 40l in whist the car was nearly empty. So one of them expressed the doubt that the fuel tank contains 55l.......any thoughts? Thanks!

[@lsft]

Last fill-up I had 3/8 of a tank with 232km distance to empty. I filled 32.8L. So based on 3/8, it means 52.48L as a tank. Hopefully my next to fill up will be more when i use more gas in the winter months.

[@hanshensen8660]

@@lsft Thanks!

[@MarkBender-zr4il]

Great update! Thank you for continuosly posting updates. What winter tires did you buy (make and model)? Are they run flats? If not did you see a différence in the suspension or the driving without run flats?

[@lsft]

Here is the video for my winter tires kzbin.info/www/bejne/rnOVdneNl6Z3gLs They are Michelin X-Ice Snow 18" They are not run flats. I don't feel too big of a difference. I would need to wait till I put the run flats back on to confirm. The adaptive variable suspension on the FSport could be one reason why I don't feel that big of a difference.

[@MarkBender-zr4il]

@@lsft Thanks for the info and video.

[@MrEldorado84]

interesting information we have the same weather in Sweden ☃️👍

[@lsft]

Yup. You may get more snow.

[@solomonngan6072]

I have been experiencing a lot of connection issues of Carplay with my iPhone X as well. Is it my older iPhone issue or that of the NX ? Any solution?

[@lsft]

I have an iPhone 14 Pro and I rarely have issues with connection with wireless carplay. Yesterday, I did have issues and I rebooted the infotainment system twice and it wouldn't connect. The 3rd try, I rebooted the iPhone and after that I press Retry and it connected. So sometimes it's the iPhone that is having issues and not connecting.

[@solomonngan6072]

Thank you for your videos. Question about the compass on the left side of the dash of my 2023 NX450h+, it doesn't seem to work when I'm running Waze via Carplay, is it normal? If so, how can I see my directional bearing?

[@lsft]

That was fixed in the latest update. Are you seeing the compass or you are see the wrong direction?

[@solomonngan6072]

@@lsft wrong direction

[@solomonngan6072]

I see the compass but wrong direction

[@solomonngan6072]

@@lsft how do I get the update?

[@lsft]

@@solomonngan6072 should just be a software update. Go to the software update on the infotainment screen

[@solomonngan6072]

Hi LFST and community, does anyone have experience with overheating of iPhone when plug into the USB charging port? I'm having this problem with my 2023 NX450h+

[@lsft]

I rarely charge my iphone, but typically if it's overheating, then it's more likely your iPhone and not the car itself. The iPhone X is 6 years old and it's time for a new phone.

[@seanh2390]

hi - I may have missed it, but what michelin winter tires are you using?

[@lsft]

Michelin X-Ice Snow kzbin.info/www/bejne/rnOVdneNl6Z3gLs

[@seanh2390]

@@lsft thanks!

[@TechJunky777]

Is there no wiper de-icer/heated windshield on any of these NX’s?

[@lsft]

Yes there is a deicer function for the wipers. You may need the winter package in the US to get that. Depends where you are. There is the front defogger for the windshield.

[@karkybibek]

Waiting since march 22. Still 5/6 mths to go 😢. Wish i could share my experience. Wait list was 18 mths in australia, now its over 24 mths.

[@lsft]

Do the dealership provide you any feedback on ETA? The wait list continues to grow unfortunately and it's still a very rare vehicle on the road. I see more NX350 on the road. Even NX350h, I have seen like 5-10 of them. The NX450h+, I just saw another one a few days ago.

[@karkybibek]

@@lsft no word from dealer. Last time i talked with them and said it will take long time. As per dealer, city i live gets 4 nx 450 every 6 mths so i am at #8 waiting list. Australia gets nx from japan, we dont get canadian made. With covid and chip shortage, japan unable to make like pre covid. Lets see. Hope waiting is worth.

[@lsft]

@@karkybibek 450h+ all come from Japan. Even in Canada, the 450h+ also come from Japan as well. In the US, they sold 3507 450h+ in 2022 and they have 244 dealerships. So taking that they get 14 450h+ per dealership. However, in the USA, not all dealerships get allocation to the 450h+, so the number is going to be higher.

[@pawewasieczko9722]

I'm from Poland. I ordered NX350h last day of 2021. According to the dealer this car should be delivered on august 22, but they changed delivery date 3 times: november 22, march 23 and now it is july 23. I hope this time they keep the promise...

[@lsft]

@@pawewasieczko9722 hope they will be and to deliver. It's unfortunate that the dealership can't control what they get and they are just waiting for allocation.

[@elusivellama]

Watch out, I'm hearing that some Shell stations are no longer ethanol-free for the V-Power 91.

[@lsft]

I'm aware. My local shell still has 0 ethanol. There won't be much choice when they all change.

[@solomonngan6072]

I'm using Waze with Carplay on my NX450h+, I couldn't display the compass on the display of the car. Any solution?

[@lsft]

The compass does not display while you are navigating? Do you have the head up display or not?

[@solomonngan6072]

@@lsft unfortunately NOT

[@lsft]

@@solomonngan6072 Whereabouts are you? There was an update done a few months ago that would continue to show the compass when the Waze or CarPlay navigation.

[@acura1314]

I have a question: Do you know what blub type for the fog light .ty

[@lsft]

I don't think it's a bulb, but more of whole light to replace. I haven't found a bulb for it. Is your fog light blown? It should be covered under warranty and could be replaced by the dealership for free.

[@stewartpenny]

Thanks LSFT and have a wonderful New Year. If Lexus condescends to manufacture my order of January 2022, I will be full bottle on the car. How much control do you have over home charging? I will be able to charge at the car’s capacity of 6kWh with my 512V 3 phase system. However, I will only want to charge using solar PV. Of course, that varies during the day and Enphase has delayed their AC battery supply to Australia so I am limited to my exisiting batteries that are not enough. This year we produced 14.8mW, used 6.3mW, imported 2.6mW and exported 10.3mW to the grid for which we are paid a paltry A$0.05/fWh. Electricity costs us A$0.29/kWh from our supplier. Our daily home energy cost is A$1.10 for the last 1645 days. Can I set the car to use only solar or does the control need to come from the Enphase system? By the way, we rarely need to heat the car but we find with our home A/C that heating is a lot less expensive than cooling. We would never drive without the A/C on auto. Keep up the good work.

[@lsft]

On the car, you can only control what time and the current rate the vehicle can charge at. 8A or 16A. The 16A is only available if you have the 6.6kWh charger option. It's interesting cos the summer months I'm able to get more km in than in the cold winter. I think some of it is related to the battery temperature.

[@stewartpenny]

I have heard that some EV batteries are heated and cooled. Perhaps your extreme temperatures work against you in both summer and winter. By comparison, our range is around 15-33ºC. As I approach my BMW, I press and hold the unlock key and all the windows open. This allows the hot air to flush from the car before entering. Is it similar on the Lexus?

[@lsft]

@@stewartpenny that feature can be turned on with the Lexus personalized feature. I have that turned on with my vehicle and you press and hold the unlock with the fob and it will open all windows. If you release the fob half way, it will stop.

[@midiman5045]

Can you use Regular gas in the NX? I thought it was Premium only.

[@lsft]

The NX350 - premium is required, NX350h/450h+ - premium is recommended and can use regular.

[@midiman5045]

@@lsft Thanks for the info. Looking at getting the NX 350 H when the market settles down. Can you review the Luxury and premium packages? No sure which one to get. I saw the Luxury comes with leather. I though all Lexus came with leather? I know the Rav 4 uses Soft text.

[@lsft]

@@midiman5045 you in Canada?

[@midiman5045]

@@lsft No NY USA, I know there are differences in Canada and US cars. The Acura RDX in Canada has Heated steering wheel on it standard.

[@lsft]

@@midiman5045 I'll see what I can do.

[@AAhmad3449]

How does this compare with the Volvo xc60?

[@lsft]

When I purchased it, the Volvo XC60 had very little EV range, so I didn't even test it out. The 2023 model, it has increased the battery capacity to 18.8 KwH, which is larger than the NX. However, the rated range is still less than the NX. I haven't tested the XC60, but I'm sure it's a nice car and there are areas it's better than the NX.

[@nosdivad84]

Count yourself lucky. There is a 36mth wait for this car in Australia. No one will wait that long.

[@lsft]

I preordered in April 2021 even before the new NX was announced. It's not just luck.

[@serpentsilver6323]

Nice. I'm a little sad about my NX after about 5 months of ownership is have 12v battery issue and basically been at the deal this whole month, I got it back a week ago and it when back yesterday 😔. I had to use the key and jumpstart the car. Love the car otherwise but this is not good for a brand new car with less than 2.5k miles. Also a privacy password came up on the infotainment and I couldn't use it as of yesterday 🥲.

[@lsft]

Is your car sitting in the garage for too long and you are not driving it a lot? I have heard a few other owners having 12V issues and some are related to the app/digital key is pulling too much causing the car to keep searching for the key, and another one was related to the dashcam draining the battery as it was connected with parking mode. I haven't heard about the privacy password issue. What is that related about? Do keep me updated on the issues and what is the root cause.