Guys - solar is 12 bars, not 8. Have I mentioned that you should NEVER trust me about ANYTHING? 🤣🤣
@diabedics3 жыл бұрын
Mr The 80/20 Drummer how could you lie to me??? jk love the vid, i need motivation to actually learn standards instead of fusion all day every day - nothing bad about fusion ;) still love it
@bmodextreme3 жыл бұрын
8 bars of 6/4
@AngelWest583 жыл бұрын
@@diabedics Do a vid on " Trading 6's "
@evankravitz53463 жыл бұрын
its RECORDAME
@AngelWest583 жыл бұрын
And All The Things You Are is 36 bars not 40. Drummers... :)
@caffeineadvocate3 жыл бұрын
I'm that guy who, no matter for how many years I've spent playing standards, still has to ask, "Could you just .. sing the first few notes real quick? .. Oh, right! Got it."
@8020drummer3 жыл бұрын
The next level with that is "yea I know it" [madly fakes it for the first 8 bars]
@eugeniofioriti3 жыл бұрын
Lol! I work with that drummer on a weekly basis, which makes it pretty annoying to sing him the first notes of the tune each rehearsal.
@darkpassenger19802 жыл бұрын
I swear I'm the same way!
@neilhiggins17553 жыл бұрын
As soon as I saw the title of this I shouted Autumn Leaves. As a gigging jazz drummer I swear I once went a whole year and played Autumn Leaves on every gig. Swung, samba, bossa, ballad. I'm sure I've played it in 5/4 too.
@8020drummer3 жыл бұрын
Autumn Leaves in 5/4? Literally kill me 🤣
@garydonnelly1003 жыл бұрын
Reggae??? :)
@dreammachine862 жыл бұрын
As someone with virtually no jazz experience this is really handy to get an idea of what 'popular' jazz sounds like on drums. I've just applied for a music course (foundation degree...so one level below a proper degree). I have to send an audition video of 3 pieces in the next 4 weeks. Ideally they want to see some contrasting styles. I mainly play rock, metal and pop stuff but also like playing to electronic stuff like trip hop. And outside of kit I've played some Samba. But for jazz I really don't know much more than a few of the common patterns. I can choose 3 different styles from my audition from the stuff I'm comfortable with, but thought it would show some initiative if I learned a jazz song for one of them. What I'd like to know is, once I've chosen a piece are they usually played almost identically to the original recording i.e. every bass drum and ghost notes between the ride are the same. Or is it more common to just get the style right...i.e. just play the standard jazz swing pattern and making sure I match the overall style like fast swing/broken swing but apart from that I can improvise my own comping/ghost notes and just need to worry about making sure my fills are in the right place. I suppose getting a copy of the Real Book would be helpful but it's not full drumkit scores but just general figures right?
@jcbozich3 жыл бұрын
Johnathan Kreisberg-Stella by Starlight (Smalls Club) is my go to Stella feel.
@arciopunk3 жыл бұрын
16:25 : Recorda-Me? Yeah, I Think ;)
@danielondrums76463 жыл бұрын
Yeah totally!
@garysmith31733 жыл бұрын
Perfect drumming and most importantly you’ve perfected the cool jazz face. But beautiful.
@yodathehutt15573 жыл бұрын
My man! Great video dude, I'm not that well versed in jazz but from watching your channel I've learned quite a bit. Keep the videos coming 😎🤙
@legacyShredder13 жыл бұрын
Hey man I just want to say thanks. I've been a professional musician for 20 years, and about three years ago I decided I needed to develop drum and percussion skills. Outside of knowing musical rhythms needed for every instrument I had the skill level below that of a newborn baby on the drums. Now, because of you and others like you, I have another skill set added to my trade that allowed me to expand my services as well as creativity for clients and my own personal music. Thanks, man. (I will note that I've put in well over 10,000 hours of drumming practice not including countless hours of study in these three years, but I couldn't have made it this far on my own regardless of hours put in.)
@mikedaknight88543 жыл бұрын
For many drummers all jazz is advanced.
@cx777o3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestions! Comes at the right time for me
@coovgroove7153 жыл бұрын
Don’t know if this is still the case now, but when I first started playing jam sessions 30 years ago, Monk’s “Well You Needn’t” was guaranteed to be called.
@8020drummer3 жыл бұрын
Monk is underrepresented, and hence always welcome. I went through a huge monk phase. Monk's dream, epistrophy, boo boo's birthday, so much good
@geakan96043 жыл бұрын
This song got handed out for my all state jazz band, and i had no ides what i second line groove was...one might call this: an issue.
@drakausdromgatti583 жыл бұрын
I am intermediate...starting to hit advanced metal drummer and a noob jazz drummer. I need to broaden my abilities or lack there of.
@yodathehutt15573 жыл бұрын
I feel ya I'm kinda in the same spot. I really have been learning from this channel. I've been tackling the stuff I never bothered to learn. And it really does help your playing alot more when you start incorporating other rhythms and patterns. Cheers bro 🤘😎🤘
@JonahtheDrummer3 жыл бұрын
Jazz is great to help all styles it will really make you a creative and diverse drummer
@yodathehutt15573 жыл бұрын
@@JonahtheDrummer I agree, also the progressive metal jazz fusionish whatever you wanna call it djent stuff.
@nilsandersson50693 жыл бұрын
Aloha I appreciate your music taste thanks for sharing 🌈
@BenjaminGoude3 жыл бұрын
Funny. All I heard growing up was people asking me to play Sweet Home Alabama and Free Bird. I play guitar though
@mikedaknight88543 жыл бұрын
In the UK its usually "do you know any stone roses" or "play wonderwall". Certainly not much of a jazz scene in this country
@boujeemelon7305Ай бұрын
@@mikedaknight8854London has a really cool jazz/jazz fusion scene! People like Yussef Dayes, Nubya Garcia, and more. I’m a yankee.
@sigmacentauri61912 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video… good encouragement to stay on the scene…
@brucelogan Жыл бұрын
Hey Nate, Excellent video. Keep up the most relevant content.
@JesseGuo3 жыл бұрын
What about a video on how to learn(or fake through lol) latin tunes
@alighieroalighieri404 Жыл бұрын
The drummer on Joe Henderson's Inner Urge should be Elvin Jones. Great video!
@angelic_slayer3 жыл бұрын
Guitarist here - baubles bangles and beads - Wes Montgomery. Yay
@exquisitecorpse49173 жыл бұрын
Good tips! I've just been throwing on Monk's Dream, Time Out, or random Ellington concerts and trying to keep up. Tried Mingus..........one does not simply Mingus.
@gregdankert3 жыл бұрын
Solar = just about every Jazz-n-Brunch I ever went to below 23rd
@blackrichard102910 ай бұрын
Enjoyable vid! Even if I'm nowhere near there and don't live in NYC (thank the gods). :) I'll have to watch more. (Although, since I'm too [something] and time signatures confuse me, calling out what the time is would be great!)
@Rogersdrumvideos3 жыл бұрын
Joshua is the tune that kicked my ass when called. I deserved it.
@Sterlingstix3 жыл бұрын
Yes sir!!! Joshua is the REAL one for advanced players. And since l’m on the topic of Victor Feldman, add “Seven Steps To Heaven” too.
@roberthorvath93713 жыл бұрын
absolutely loved this one! cheers Nate!
@sergshef3 жыл бұрын
If you looking at lead sheet Solar is 12 bar form not 8 but thanks for video, it’s good anyway!
@8020drummer3 жыл бұрын
Have I mentioned the importance of never trusting me ever 🤣. (In all seriousness, good catch. I need a disclaimer next to any proclamation I make.)
@tristanmouw90773 жыл бұрын
One of the first things that I learned during my first jam session of music school was to learn my standards. During that time I felt like an idiot because I had no idea what “Red Clay” and “Minority” were.
@cam0cazi3 жыл бұрын
dude the playing!!
@garydonnelly1003 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, Stablemates! I play with a reading band that pulled that out in 2019. The leader is the trumpet player and arranger and everything in the book has a slightly different twist. This one absolutely ripped me a new one since he added some stuff in the second A section and, since it's already hard enough to support the soloists, imagine having to solo over this naked...just drums. No bass or piano marking the beginning of sections (these guys are merciless). Typically, they will end up giving me three full choruses and while it seemed they were not listening to any of the rambling crap I was playing (lubing their valves and slides, stepping outside for a smoke, taking a nap), miraculously, they nailed the top of the head right where they were supposed to. We had this tune in our weekly rotation for a few weeks and got it to a place where we actually took it out on a couple gigs. So, now that we're all vaccinated we're getting back to weekly get togethers later this month and the leader has a whole new book of stuff he's arranged so I'm looking forward to it. I talked to him last summer and requested that he do an arrangement of Upper Manhattan Medical Group (Strayhorn). I'm looking forward to seeing the chart for that.
@eliborg3 жыл бұрын
is Eye Of The Hurricane ever called at jam sessions? I know it isn't a standard but it's popular enough, is it though? lol
@benfox87093 жыл бұрын
Great video as always. I know this is off topic but when you improvise with new material to get it in to your vocabulary like the gadd stuff you put out, how long would you improvise until you leave it and let it come naturally when soloing? Also how can you stop yourself from playing the same things? Stay safe!
@davidgomersall71853 жыл бұрын
Still the coolest channel theme music ever... when we getting the transcription? 😎
@noahrobb91352 жыл бұрын
hey nate i’m goin to my first ever jam in a week me bein a teen i don’t know much on the standards but do you think they’d call stuff like Freddie Freeloader, So What, Take Five, Moanin’, and stuff like that. Sorry if this is a really dumb question. I just don’t know what they might call besides autumn leaves and some of the stuff you mentioned. Thanks, Noah
@billsmith19573 жыл бұрын
Hey Nate how about 'Oleo' or 'Cherokee'?
@garydonnelly1003 жыл бұрын
I walked away from jam sessions for some time after having to play Cherokee for like, 25 minutes with five horn players wanking chorus after chorus then thinking it was a great idea to have the bass player solo then want to trade 4's for like a millennium.
@jorymil Жыл бұрын
Solar - 12 bars All the Things You Are - 36 bars
@jimfarey3 жыл бұрын
Keep digging
@jackbyrnesbass3 жыл бұрын
Stella isnt really AABA tho. First 16 always thought of as 1 thing, the b section with the doubled harmonic rhythm then the last 8 is kind of similar to the first 8 but circle progression to the tonic
@eugeniofioriti3 жыл бұрын
AABA'
@jackbyrnesbass3 жыл бұрын
@@eugeniofioriti second group of 8 bars isnt the same as the first 8. So, ABCA'
@eugeniofioriti3 жыл бұрын
@@jackbyrnesbass agree
@AngelWest583 жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@eugeniofioriti3 жыл бұрын
@@AngelWest58 It could be that way. If I choose to be guided by the melody, imo it could be either: 1) A = 8 bars | B = 8 bars | C = 8 bars | A' = 8 bars -> ABCA' 2) A = 16 bars | B = 8 bars | A' = 8 bars -> ABA'
@JohnnyHands3 жыл бұрын
Your pronunciation of "Solar", so-LAHR? Accent on the second syllable? Is that right? If so, I did not know that (my jazz knowledge is weak.)
@8020drummer3 жыл бұрын
yea that's how I've heard it pronounced in these here parts :P
@funkman08113 жыл бұрын
Interesting These would not be my choice for 9 songs of jazz maybe just 3 of them How about Naima Coltrane Song for my father Horace silver Killer Joe Benny Golson Poinciana Ahmad Jamal Round Midnight Man there's so many but these are in my opinion are a must for drummers
@marcosmilito28063 жыл бұрын
What is the version of the First All The things? 9:33
@8020drummer3 жыл бұрын
Mehldau art of the trio volume 4, live at the vanguard
@AngelWest583 жыл бұрын
The 36 bar version. lol
@max.t957 Жыл бұрын
Where do you find your sheet music?
@8020drummer Жыл бұрын
??
@max.t957 Жыл бұрын
Or do you just play along with the songs without sheet music to go along with the song.
@brianhotaling58493 жыл бұрын
If Ornithology is How High Moon, then which Parker tune is based on Cherokee?
@zaydnawaz24033 жыл бұрын
Ko-Ko!
@jorymil Жыл бұрын
Ko-ko
@carlupthegrove2623 жыл бұрын
I'm not a NY guy I'm a West Coast guy but I would have expected Jazz Crimes and Footprints to have made the list
@AngelWest583 жыл бұрын
Jazz Crimes? whaaaaat
@memathews3 жыл бұрын
Yep, West Coast here too, Footprints is a definite.
@JonahtheDrummer3 жыл бұрын
I called stablemates and autumn leaves
@robertscorey13693 жыл бұрын
Always Be sure To dedicate Windows to Bill Gates and Your Peeps at Microsoft.
@BenjaminGoude3 жыл бұрын
I didn't know Autumn Leaves was a jazz song. Before this, I'd only heard Andrea Bocelli's french version
@macvoutie3 жыл бұрын
Actually any song can be a "jazz song". It's not the song ...it's how you play it.
@8020drummer3 жыл бұрын
Yea - besides the instrumental originals, like Inner Urge or Windows, most "standards" were just "songs" until jazz musicians decide to improvise over them.
@macvoutie3 жыл бұрын
It's even possible to take a tune like "Somewhere Out There" and ....well maybe not.
@aidanschram96523 жыл бұрын
@@macvoutie Like Billy Boy
@mphase75753 жыл бұрын
Is giant steps still called a lot?
@8020drummer3 жыл бұрын
Not as much. In my day at least it was seen as solid, but kinda gouache
@AngelWest583 жыл бұрын
@@8020drummer gouache?
@AngelWest583 жыл бұрын
it was NEVER called alot -at least not in LA. Talking 1970's 1980's and 1990's
@billyrhythm3 жыл бұрын
@@AngelWest58 no one wants to solo over the changes, so it doesn't get called.
@AngelWest583 жыл бұрын
@@billyrhythm read: no one can solo over the changes, so it doesn't get called
@allocca73 жыл бұрын
Recorda-me!
@mrtyreus03 жыл бұрын
Nica's Dream Unity Eternal Triangle If I Were a Bell Impressions/ So What Inner Urge Minority
@AngelWest583 жыл бұрын
All The ThingsYou Are is 36 measures
@AngelWest583 жыл бұрын
but everyone here is in de nile
@acidreflux74493 жыл бұрын
Liked 'cause of the wii music
@mrtyreus03 жыл бұрын
Before starting the video: Please tell me Take Five isn't on the list.
@AngelWest583 жыл бұрын
Drummers talking standards. Cute!
@8020drummer3 жыл бұрын
Where were you when they were pillorying me for saying buddy rich wasn’t the only jazz drummer. Jonny come lately 🤣. But better late than never
@AngelWest583 жыл бұрын
hmmm ... Man that sounds rough - did they forget about Gene Krupa?? Everyone knows there were TWO jazz drummers. Sheesh... that pillory is no joke .. #beenthere next: All the Things You Is - 40 bars? 36 bars? 34? We attempt to unravel the mystery...
@kriscargo41172 жыл бұрын
Transelet indonesia plia
@lukasjouck50703 жыл бұрын
Did he just say that Solar is 12 bars?
@greggreg86253 жыл бұрын
finaly
@scottwrona78242 жыл бұрын
11:21
@scottwrona78242 жыл бұрын
12:00
@richieboy68252 жыл бұрын
Beginner
@nathanwolf50663 жыл бұрын
Not to be that guy, but Solar has a 12 bar form. Great lesson otherwise
@tallikimanimusic71273 жыл бұрын
Jazz robots ;)
@memereference25453 жыл бұрын
OK, so what happens if you call "All the things you could be by now if Sigmund Freud's wife was your mother"?
@8020drummer3 жыл бұрын
Your bandmates remind you they first heard that joke in undergrad in the '60s 😉
@memereference25453 жыл бұрын
@@8020drummer Not a joke, it's an Charles Mingus tune: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nnvIkI2ie6hjbpY
@8020drummer3 жыл бұрын
@@memereference2545 that doesn’t mean it’s not a joke 😉
@memereference25453 жыл бұрын
@@8020drummer So much interesting music from the jazz era- like the Mingus tune- but guys like you want to score cheap points and keep flogging the dead horse tunes. No wonder jazz is a walking corpse.
@kennethtaylor9643 жыл бұрын
Sorry, the Rumba you are denigrating is a legitimate form from the 30s. Look into who was leading the rumba craze at the time.
@sigmacentauri61912 жыл бұрын
Rumba? Roomba? Cultural appropriation? lol there is no original thought. All ideas are appropriated!
@8020drummer2 жыл бұрын
True. But there’s “rumba” as, say, the munequitos play it, then there’s the “rhumba”. Both great, both valid ;)
@sigmacentauri61912 жыл бұрын
Really like your channel by the way… good motivation to go pro… By the way@@8020drummer there’s an indie record Label out of Phoenix by this same 80/20 name. Just curious why you call yourself that…
@8020drummer2 жыл бұрын
@@sigmacentauri6191 search a video called how I learned to stop sucking at drums, where I explain the origin of the name. Spoiler alert: it’s definitely not my original concept
@mrtyreus03 жыл бұрын
Surprised All the Things isn't in the beginner category. Not because it's a beginner tune, it isn't. That said, from my experience, the expectation was that everyone knows it. That said, many didn't. Train wreck ensues.