90 Day Fiancé: Christian & Cleo Tease Engagement, Amanda & Razvan Split

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[@saffron_786]

I don't think Violet was ever pregnant by Riley.

[@robertriteman3227]

Does anyone really care !!!! It was not as if either of them was someone you want to see in future episodes .

[@AMNBatSE]

@robertriteman3227: Brutal, but you're spot on!👍🤗

[@sonjadenouden798]

Ze was niet aardig naar hem toe Riley verdient een betrouwbaardere vrouw dat is ze niet.en ik persoonlijk denk ik dat ze zwanger was van iemand anders dan hem.

[@rileycoyote8275]

​@@sonjadenouden798Riley doesn't deserve a good woman at all. He's an abuser and is a manipulative monster.

[@marknewton6984]

Doubt it.

[@Colby_0-3_IRL_and_title_fights]

Jasmine and Amanda talking about being narcissists and wanting to be the centre of attention hahahahaha

[@nimloc1670]

Right?? The irony lol

[@KA-eu9sy]

Amanda Wilhelm was arrested in 2010 for battery. Attacked a woman with a baseball bat. Razvan dodged a bullet. Or more specifically dodged a baseball bat.

[@hannahh3068]

Honestly I’m not surprised. She seem really uneducated and just mean girl

[@marknewton6984]

Curve ball?

[@CazzTitan1987]

I think he dodged both because Amanda is crazy as hell

[@patb9463]

NOT SHOCKED, BUT WOW! 😳

[@x01Candyxx]

Wow, she is crazy indeed. I knew something was wrong with her

[@melissag.428]

Amanda looks devious as hell.

[@firstlady3674]

How quickly Amanda forgets. As soon as Razvan starts stepping back because of her back and forth attitude (I want you...I have kids and I did not get over Jason) she is all over him. When he shows love and possibly moving to the US, she interprets it as moving too fast and he has other motives. Razvan, leave her, she is bad news! Even sitting there with a smug look on her face and telling Jasmine to shut up. Then at the end of the tell all, she tells the whole world she has someone else in mind...I hope this someone else is watching and reconsiders the relationship. If you are the one on the side and once you are in, she will have someone else on the side. Amanda, go be a mom and also work on yourself.

[@CazzTitan1987]

Yes because Amanda is crazy as hell, because I’ve seen the way she looked at Razvan like, she’s going to kill him😳😨😱

[@kk-xi8li]

Poor Cleo. I hope she comes to her senses and leaves that guy asap.

[@rileycoyote8275]

Cleo is a man. Hes so manipulative and fake. He can't even accept himself as he is, and wants people to accept him as he demands. He's very selfish. He wants the best of both worlds, and expects everyone to adhere to him, instead of acclimating. He has no business trying to act like he understands how a woman feels or thinks or what we want or need. He needs to get over himself. Christian deserves better.

[@rileycoyote8275]

@@Mamacita82 Cleo is far too controlling and neurotic and refuses to accept Christian for the person he is. Nothing about Cleo is attractive. He's gross and self-absorbed. He won't even get the surgery, but he expects Christian to completely change his personality just to appease Cleo. He (Cleon) thinks he can change Christian and it's really unfair. Nobody deserves to be second guessed, accused or bullied on a regular basis, and that's exactly what Cleon has done to Christian, from the moment they met. Every time Christian turns around, Cleon berates him and accuses him of horrible things. The gaslighting and accusations are classic domestic violence. Cleon apparently thinks he is perfect and above reproach and feels entitled to abuse Christian. It's disgusting. Cleo is an extremely manipulative, demanding, selfish person. Christian deserves a good true woman, who accepts him for the person he is. Cleo is repulsive and needs mental help. Christian isn't a psychologist, and he certainly shouldn't be the caretaker for some devious, demanding, selfish and manipulative creep. If Cleo weren't trans, people feel very differently about his behaviour. He needs help, and I really hope Christian finds someone far better than a mediocre throwback.

[@rileycoyote8275]

@@Mamacita82 What exactly do you like about Cleon? There's absolutely nothing there, he has no personality and isn't even a nice person. He's so self-absorbed and self-centered and completely one-dimensional. He isn't even particularly intelligent. His entire personality is wrapped up in his alleged neurodivergency and his sexuality. Even his obsession with astrology is banal. It blows me away how anyone likes him.

[@jag5014]

I've said it before and I'll say it again, I'll never understand how Christian somehow got labeled a villain by fans when his biggest crime was not detailing their physical intimacy to the production crew and being a chatty Kathy who invited a straggler expat to Thanksgiving. To be honest, Cleo is a Debby Downer who treats every misstep like a betrayal when you'd think she'd be patient considering he's treading new waters dating a transperson and facing hostility from his own family over it. Also, I really don't understand how in 2023 people can insist that it's wrong for a man to talk to woman in a social setting. Would you say gay men shouldn't be allowed to socialize with other men because that's the gender they're attracted to? No offense, but the guy is no panty dropper, he seems more like a maybe kind of awkward chatty guy. Just because Cloe is insecure or cries at the drop of a hat doesn't somehow make or a victim or Christian a villain. She even cried over an astrological reading.

[@annerison]

Yea, Christian sucks. He's practically my neighbor. I can tell you that his type is pretty typical for men of his age living in Minneapolis. He reminds me a lot of someone I know. That Minnesotan accent too, jeeez, I tell ya.

[@LindaMarhelski-jx3su]

David and Sheila are the best couple on here. I hope everything works out for They need to be together

[@davicool4284]

The relationship works because Sheila is smarter and David has a job

[@julief2830]

Christian just wants Cleo because Cleo is not too hard for him to manipulate. When he said he may ask Cleo to marry him, made me nauseous. Cleo deserves to be treated better. Christian even controls Cleo's answers.....anyone else notice that? "Here.....let me answer that for you"....."Oh yeah I talked to girls but let me explain to you why you are making a big deal out of nothing".....he is a jerk who acts like the women all love him 🤢🤢 Complete gaslighter!

[@historyloveriii2949]

He is a misogynist. That explains why he is "dating" a dude.

[@rileycoyote8275]

Cleo can't even accept himself for what he actually is. Christian needs to stop pandering to Cleo's obvious mental illness.

[@wiseup8729]

I wish I could speak up on this show about this subject. He is from Minnesota where the people are insanely friendly and are extremely interested in everyone. I went to high school there and was shocked at how much love and support and kindness I got from those people. They are friendly and happy and full of very social joyful people. Those were the happiest years of my life. People elsewhere just don't understand. Wish I'd stayed there forever.

[@rileycoyote8275]

@@wiseup8729💯 💯 💯 Every single person that I have ever met from Minnesota, is exactly like Christian. The sad thing is, the pro-Cleo people will say anything they can to vilify Christian. It's disgusting and really weird because the only reason they're doing it, is because of the fact that Cleo is trans, so automatically, Cleo is assumed to be perfect and is a victim of big bad Christian. If Cleo were an actual woman and behaving like that, people would be far less forgiving of his (Cleo's) neurotic and controlling paranoia. Cleo and his emotional support attack friend, expect Christian to make all of the changes to suit Cleo, it's not fair at all. Cleo brings absolutely nothing to the relationship and is an extremely toxic person. Anyone with half of a brain, can see that Christian not a bad guy, he's very friendly and accepting and people are drawn to that kind of personality. Christian needs and deserves someone who accepts him exactly as he is, and isn't constantly looking for reasons to gang up on him or accuse him of being a horrible person. Cleo is too much of a mess for anyone, except for maybe the Jane's of this world, to deal with.

[@amberanderson528]

​​@@wiseup8729 What kind of support did they give you are you lgbt

[@pernilladomander7648]

Amanda looks different, her face is a little swollen.

[@jking-]

Amanda needs to shut up she has no business saying nothing

[@saffron_786]

I noticed that too. I wonder if she's pregnant.

[@jking-]

@@saffron_786 rasvan needs to get a dna test 😬 it's either his baby or the other guy Amanda was flirting with

[@robertriteman3227]

She is likely using fillers as part of her plan to launch her Only Fans Account

[@MyCatsChannel841]

Yes omg someone said it I thought she might be pregnant crazy 😮

[@hannahh3068]

Amanda in just pure evil. I hope they never get back together. She’s a huge hypocrite and narcissistic

[@josi7690]

Did you hear what she said at the very end?

[@rileycoyote8275]

​@@josi7690What'd she say?

[@hannahh3068]

@@rileycoyote8275that’s she’s already talking to another guy

[@rileycoyote8275]

@@hannahh3068Wow. I can't say that I'm surprised. She is an absolute sociopath. It makes me wonder if my theory that she sped up her husband's demise is true. Her poor kids..

[@CazzTitan1987]

Razvan needs a new girlfriend, Amanda is a super red flag, she ain’t no good

[@1Kaileegirl]

Razvan dodged a bullet Amanda jumping from 1 bloke to another could be put down to grief and feeling very lost but with her attitude and the stuck up vibe she gives off she comes across quite a selfish nasty girl that doesnt know what loyalty means Razvan the best idea stay away from her when you visit the US

[@yesitsdenise7525]

Christian & Cleo are just gross, separate and together

[@rileycoyote8275]

💯 💯 💯 Although I think Christian is a little more tolerable. Cleo is so annoying, fake and manipulative.

[@amberanderson528]

And you look like Caitlyn Jenner before the transition LOL

[@TheAdelaide9]

Razvan is really kind and handsome 💙

[@kaycie471]

Omg Christian is so full of it. He automatically said u can call me a pig! Goes to show he really was trying to hit her up. Then he fake proposed to cleo how weird hes so fake i cannot stand this.

[@marknewton6984]

He is a fake. Run girl Run!

[@Godlovesme91]

Cleo and Christian just cringe 😢

[@Sh52068]

Amanda is the last person who should be giving input on anyone else lol

[@josi7690]

I hope Razvan sees the very ending of the show. I wasn't very fond of Amanda to begin with but, hearing her say at the very end that she was talking to another guy, and didn't want to say anything on the show as to not hurt Razvan feelings just made me dislike her even more. Razvan, go to the U.S. if that is what you have always dreamed, but you deserve better than Amanda.

[@nimloc1670]

It's funny how Amanda and Jasmine were saying something to Christian about talking to women at bars, but they were both openly flirtatious with other men without guilt.

[@marknewton6984]

Hypocrisy

[@hbahena24]

It’s funny how 90 day fiancé turned into people who aren’t even engaged

[@THE_Niccolo_Paganini]

0:27 i called it ! Voilet is a scammer lies lies and lies

[@Gingdoll4mj]

There is ALWAYS one annoying cringy cast member on the tell all, I never thought it would’ve been Amanda.

[@jacquiandp-dog7755]

Her voice is like nails on a chalkboard. Pure evil.

[@robertriteman3227]

Razvan will never realize the true extent of the bullet he dodged albeit I never believed that Amanda was ever sincere . She only wanted her 15 minutes of fame to springboard an Only Fans account. Her conduct the last part of her trip was just an attempt to extend her storyline. As a guy I do understand that Christian sees he is a good guy doing nothing wrong which is why he will always be a shallow person. Anyone who is over 21 and thinks it is cool to be part of a group called the Steiners and uses Stein as a buzz phrase akin to getting laid needs to have his parents explain to him that his conduct can be viewed as either being infantile, a Grade A Asshole or both. it is sad because if he would grow up then he could likely have a good relationship with Cleo .

[@LicaM]

Loool Amanda has an only fans account?😦

[@robertriteman3227]

I was projecting but I suspect I will be proven correct or she will do something similar. The show would have been more interesting to know the views of her deceased husband's family on Amanda. Christian's insecurites make him an attention seeker and immature but Amanda is someone who chooses to exploit. @@LicaM

[@terryanyango9804]

Cleo will be cheated on with a woman and that would be very hurtful for her/him" terrible

[@AMNBatSE]

If so, SHE's not the first woman in history to be cheated on by a man. It could happen in any of these vulnerable 90 days relationships.

[@rileycoyote8275]

Well, he wants to feel like a real woman, so he'll just have to deal with it lol.

[@rileycoyote8275]

​@@AMNBatSE*HE

[@natalies5960]

Ew Cleo. He’s a man no matter how hard he tries to be a woman

[@midnite325]

Thank God Razman came to his senses! She's not worthy of a good guy. I'm sure her ego is bruised but she's probably already on to her next victim. tsk Welcome to the US when you get here, Rasvan. You may meet your Ms Right while you're here.

[@robertriteman3227]

At the end of the series it was apparent that he was more real and honest than Amanda. I do not see him as a Mama's boy but I am pretty sure after she left his mother ( and father) gave their no holds take on Amanda and he realized they were right. But of course it was doomed as Amanda did not care for him but just wanted to try to have a future storyline to extend her 15 minutes of fame.

[@claudiafernandez1920]

Is Sheila pregnant?? Idk if it's just me but she looks a little prego to me!!

[@KLASSlK]

god i love david hes so sweet

[@miryamamar9471]

He is one of the few real men on this program.

[@TZee395]

OMW David is the best!😢

[@robertriteman3227]

The shows need to feature more real couples like David and Sheila than the scripted couples who overdo the toxicity in order to get airtime

[@TheAdelaide9]

Is Sheila pregnant?

[@rileycoyote8275]

​@@robertriteman3227Yes! They need more normal couples. No more of the constant TMI Sex/bathroom issues and no more of the pushing of identity politics.

[@robertriteman3227]

LBGT people are more normal that the right wing bible thumping hate mongers that you appear to belong to. @@rileycoyote8275

[@TheMarinemom02]

Run Cleo, RUN!!!!!

[@rileycoyote8275]

Christian needs to run away from Cleo. Cleo is far too manipulative and selfish and has too many mental health issues to ever be a good partner for anyone. Christian deserves someone far better.

[@carolwoodruff7990]

violet probaly lied to keep riley around. shes another snake

[@rileycoyote8275]

He's an abuser, so they're perfectly suited.

[@Audreylin29]

The couples are crazy!

[@brennak3896]

Amanda needs to 💯% grow up. Especially considering she just recently lost her husband and has children and she’s clearly only thinking with one part of her body. It’s funny how she had her voice during the reunion, but couldn’t speak up when she was with the actual guy. It was so obvious at the end that she was very angry with her sister who blew up her game She should worry about her kids before she’s worried about getting a new Man into the house. She’s clearly looking for somebody to take care of her so she can have the fairytale stay at home mom deal- totally understandable, but you’re going about it the completely wrong way. And why is it so funny that she’s seeing somebody else and don’t wanna tell him because she don’t wanna hurt his feelings that was a joke and that was really childish of her. Cleo needs to open her eyes up and really take a good look at what she’s gonna be with. He’s clearly an opportunist once he says to her do you want to marry me maybe and then he started changing it around the way he said it -total opportunist just like he was when he was in the bar talking to the women. Disgusting. I really hope Cleo finds happiness. & don’t even get me started about Hatman. 🙄. He needs to wake up. I think the hat being on his head too long is definitely taking away his brain cells. Seriously cannot believe there’s people out there that are really this ignorant.

[@mestizAzteca]

They didn't show it here but I agree with Jazmin about Amanda

[@kathleenweinberg5991]

I wish them both luck in their relationship.

[@marknewton6984]

Who?

[@debbieguiller5010]

What did Amanda expect? She treated rasmine like garbage, the first couple of weeks she was there she was distant. Near the end of her coming home, she all of a sudden, got so lovely, dubby and she wanted to be engaged. I think she has her own issues to deal with with her past. And I and I don't think she is as sure as him as he is not as sure on her either. A good decision for them to break up.

[@yuzon0224]

Poor guy got catfish

[@dkce1366]

Christian is a homosexual. What is the big problem with him talking to women? He should be more concerned if he’s talking to men.

[@nikkisaracini1948]

This season was korny

[@cuts240]

Everyone has a ‘tism

[@shelleyjopp1190]

Amanda is a mean person and based on her sister being afraid of her I suspect she has been since childhood. She took a base ball bat to another girl when she was 19 and was charged with battery. I feel sorry for her children.

[@southsudani983]

Razvan is beautiful

[@davicool4284]

Amanda and RazClot split... Boy I didn't see that coming

[@iamkristina]

so why amanda is still there lol

[@historyloveriii2949]

Why was Tyray?

[@rileycoyote8275]

Why was Cleo and his emotional support attack friend?

[@historyloveriii2949]

@@rileycoyote8275 To shove the Trans Agenda down our throats. Society always had Trans people and no one really cared. Now they are a special interest group which demands protection and special benefits.

[@MK-sd8zr]

The narrator's inflections are *OBNOXIOUS*

[@sugabooify]

I love Jasmine ❤

[@insanenoire7154]

CLEO NOOOOOOOOOOO

[@rprobp186]

Feels more forced with a live audience

[@sandrasmith-dickens2339]

Amanda nope

[@josevasquez5113]

That guy Cleo looks like Tom Petty

[@thapoppyman]

"Oh yeah totally, maybe could be possibly an engagement happening on one of these trips, JUST NOT THIS ONE COMING UP, (ahem) but uh yeah totally I'm so serious about this relationship can't you tell, gawd? Why cant people tell how cool i am by the way i talk to girls like their humans?"

[@Margaret-jz4hx]

Violent is a old slay queen

[@aliocal6613]

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[@Tachouz]

I give Christian the benefit of the doubt. I engage in conversations with random people all the time, and sometimes it may be perceived as flirting by others but their assumption is not based on facts but on their perceptions of things. I wouldn't change that about myself for anyone, especially if the reason they're uncomfortable with it is their own insecurities rather than my wrongdoing.

[@historyloveriii2949]

As Dempsey stated, everyone in the room viewed your actions as flirting. Then what does he do when he flirts?

[@wiseup8729]

@@historyloveriii2949 he is friendly social and outgoing. Besides the camera was on that lady too so it was part of the show.

[@Tachouz]

Maybe not talk about his girlfriend to the woman he's flirting with? When you're flirting with someone, you don't tell them that you have a girlfriend, you don't talk about her to them and you certainly don't invite them for dinner at your GF's, with your GF. To me, Dempsey and all the rest of them, like most people nowadays, have those ideas about relationship that are not based in reality but on past traumas and insecurities. @@historyloveriii2949

[@glam0r0us]

❤🙏 riley❤❤