Actually on my 3rd Hustle Ink now (with one more left in stash), but even back in the 90s when I was throwing mainly Brunswick and Hammer, I had multiples of the Red Hammer R and the Purple Rhino Pro.
@MrDreday5103 жыл бұрын
First off amazing video as always. Seen someone shoot 812 with Original Zen at the military tournament here in NV. Now I want one lol. This video helps the Zen look even better lol To answer your question, I have never purchased two balls of the same and drilled the same. Extremely glad that the idol is the Ol trusty rock to pull out.
@anthonydorazio96502 жыл бұрын
Sir you will not be sorry with the Zen awesome peice. 😎
@andybell4903 жыл бұрын
I was given a used All Road. Fell in love with it. Now I have 2 NIB.
@NicoN5612 жыл бұрын
If available I would definitely get another WEB Tour Hybrid. That ball is my baby. I have had it for a couple years and it just treats me right.
@collinbrummund59253 жыл бұрын
I have an AllRoad and Zen stashed for then when they die
@nickedinger13 жыл бұрын
Personally myself it's hard for me to find a ball that I like enough to buy multiples of. With that being said I want a whole closet full of RST X1........I absolutely love that ball. Oh and I would take another Rubicon UC2 in a heartbeat
@tnjrcfl13 жыл бұрын
Absolutely bought few of those magic ones and wish I had gotten more(og physix )
@anthonydorazio96502 жыл бұрын
Yes sir love the Physix,Astro and Proton Atomic core SWEET 😋
@aznraver19893 жыл бұрын
The surface on the Zen Master is super gritty for some reason. I feel like the Zen Master really comes into its best form once it sheens up a bit or you hit it with a little lighter surface from oob, unless your bowling on a flood
@jrproshop3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@christinasch843 жыл бұрын
Had a pin up and pin down gb3 at the same time. Anytime I get a new ball to replace the old one it never rolls well even with the same layouts, so I would rather just buy a different ball.
@RV126ICE3 жыл бұрын
Thru it in practice this weekend at tournament. Ball read at my feet lol
@jrproshop3 жыл бұрын
😂
@scottythompson9403 жыл бұрын
Cool video talk to tech bowling ball 900 gobal zen master does this bowling ball has dot technology dynamic core in the bowling ball ok Jr pro shop
@LuisNapoles3 жыл бұрын
Zen Master goooooood!
@jdizzlef833 жыл бұрын
Won a Widow 2.0, got it drilled pin up and ended up getting damaged after 3 shots (lane damage). Got the ball fixed, but didn't roll the same so bought a new one, and drilled it pin down. Ended up correcting the issue with the pin up widow, now have 2 of the same ball.
@jonmarley_53243 жыл бұрын
So when can we start seeing some tournament vlogs? Not afraid to say “I want that “
@jrproshop3 жыл бұрын
When we can travel!
@ptorres9283 жыл бұрын
So I have an astrophysix and Im not getting a second ball but I will look into getting a physix at a later time when it dies.
@mikepetrey74023 жыл бұрын
Yes idol pearl !!!!
@adamlee55042 жыл бұрын
Thinking adding another Uc3 but pin down. I would like to the same with the rubicon and rstx1. These are to complement the pin up. I am thinking they may shape better for my game on fresh sport shots than my pin ups.
@jrproshop2 жыл бұрын
Yea pin down will be smoother
@danerichardson23023 жыл бұрын
I went through 3 Ebonite The One when i was bowling in juniors.
@HunchoLee3152 жыл бұрын
How does this compare to the proton physix
@nordattack3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a great review as usual! Question: Why is this video so blurry?
@jrproshop3 жыл бұрын
??
@nordattack3 жыл бұрын
@@jrproshop It's super blurry, no sharpness or detail. It looks like you were trying to use a wide open aperture to create and artsy effect and it didn't work out. Try F4 and above for best effect.
@redcat56973 жыл бұрын
I have owned 2 OG hyroads and made money with both. How would this Zen master compare to a soild UFO?
@jrproshop3 жыл бұрын
Zen master will be little later rolling, and a little more angular
@brianfong39542 жыл бұрын
How about a Zem Mater vs Dark Code review ?
@thebeardedgoat_27803 жыл бұрын
would the Zen pearl be a step up from the rubicon UC2
@jrproshop3 жыл бұрын
It’s definitely a stronger ball overall. Huge core and stronger coverstock
@rickymastne52812 жыл бұрын
what's ur normal layouts on ur zene/ with pin up.and pin down.. ??. I'm just experimenting
@jrproshop2 жыл бұрын
65x5x25 and 75x5.25x75
@zackoakes63822 жыл бұрын
Went bowling for the first time in 12 years a couple weeks ago, went out and bought a zen master that was in stock at my local alley last weekend. And I find it definitely starts hooking to early, so would some polish help get the ball farther down the lane to avoid the Brooklyn?
@jrproshop2 жыл бұрын
Either some polish or even a smoother sanded surface. 3000 or 4000 grit
@notamelon38793 жыл бұрын
If I could get another hustle INK, I’d drill it as soon as it arrived at the house. Too bad theyre 200 bucks NIB
@jaydenburrell20023 жыл бұрын
Just got that ball
@Ears7303 жыл бұрын
How similar is the Zen Master to the Phase 2 if at all?
@mitchellberg69183 жыл бұрын
Should be similar to Phaze 2 but is a little earlier and smoother
@bradhoyer84463 жыл бұрын
RST X-2 please
@keyeisme16943 жыл бұрын
No company bashing...LOL
@sb6323 жыл бұрын
Definitely does not seem to fit Jung's game. At least on this pattern.
@jrproshop3 жыл бұрын
Correct. Too early and strong. If I were to bowl for score I'd definitely take it to 4000
@angrybadger42362 жыл бұрын
Zen master bad 😔
@jrproshop2 жыл бұрын
😲 take the surface off ?
@rebeccasharpmarquez91713 жыл бұрын
Love the comparisons you do and throwing in the pin down and pin up was perfect! Really enjoy your vids. A ball that I've drilled two of, you'll laugh, the Storm Special Agent...it's my favorite Storm ball of all time. Still have a NIB stashed.
@photobombchamp3 жыл бұрын
I had a Special Agent back in the day and it was amazing!!
@jonmarley_53243 жыл бұрын
Never bought two of the same ball. As a THB playing leagues I’ve just learned not to cop the latest and hyped up to be the greatest ball. Recently went with Axiom over Zen Master and this video makes me happy
@sccrash39383 жыл бұрын
Agree, seriously disappointed they discontinued the Idol so soon... Hopefully a suitable replacement will show up some time soon... Not holding my breath though... Cheers!
@blakeschneider38043 жыл бұрын
Normally I wouldn’t get the same ball as one I get, but when I got my intensity, I feel in love and am probably gonna stash one for nationals lol
@mikegreene86102 жыл бұрын
I would get a zen master pin down
@alfreddelacruz10353 жыл бұрын
There will be times when I get the same ball. The balls that I’ve gotten that are the same are OG Hyroad, OG IQ tour and the Phaze2, actually the Phaze2 I picked up 4 of them!!!
@larryschlutt72113 жыл бұрын
Why don't you guys use a house shot vs sport or challenge since most of us bowl on house shots
@FrekinSmart3 жыл бұрын
Great stuff! Definitely like my Zen, but I didn't run out to buy this ball because I have a Zen and a C4 and I didn't want a lot of overlap. As for the q of the day, I've never purchased the same ball twice. I would be curious to go back and throw stuff from 10+ years ago on today's conditions though if I had thought to stash some away.
@anthonydorazio96502 жыл бұрын
Nice on the Zen these folks don't know what there missing excellent peice. 👍
@richiedeez3 жыл бұрын
I'm showing my age here... I had a couple Danger Zones and several AMF XS white balls. Great videos! Thanks for the comparisons I can't believe how that Axiom took off I will take one of those please.
@timwatson31923 жыл бұрын
I absolutely do! Love pin up and down compliments.
@newcenturygoldllc92533 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video. I truly appreciate all of the different lines you used throwing this ball. I thought that this ball was going be have a lot of backend. However, watching you throw it...it clearly does not have a lot of backend. It's very smooth if anything at all. Will not be buying this ball.
@grantschoeck3 жыл бұрын
I mean I have an Axiom Solid and from the looks of this… I have no need for a Zen Master.
@brandongoodman41163 жыл бұрын
I take on yall
@Samuelnahm3 жыл бұрын
I have 4 storm axiom solids
@knep243 жыл бұрын
Excited for the rst x2, looks like my Christmas present.
@lorenzoaquiningocii803 жыл бұрын
Two drilled at the same time so far for me are: Web Tour, Results OG, and Maximum Results. Love your channel fellas!!!!!!!!!!! Best out there for ball reviews in my opinion
@jrproshop3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Lorenzo !!
@WhiteBeltBowling3 жыл бұрын
I have never had two of the same balls, but what i have done is get a direct successor. I had a pin down Severe Delirium and a pin up Resurgence, both dull hybrids with the same resurgence core. i also took a ball that i originally drilled pin up and plugged and redrilled it to pin down
@enigmazero86243 жыл бұрын
Jungo, what are the layouts you use for pin up and pin down? Do you guys use dual angle or pin buffer?
@jrproshop3 жыл бұрын
Pin up 65x5x25. Pin down 85x4 7/8x70. Dual angle is the more simple
@enigmazero86243 жыл бұрын
@@jrproshop agree, but some people still use pin buffer, even some channels I watch. I prefer dual angle also.
@chadromano34443 жыл бұрын
I’m just a league bowler but I have gotten the same ball after the first ball died and that ball was the OG Physix
@slydewayz843 жыл бұрын
The ZEN was the EASY MODE for bowlers. The MASTER is not! HEAVY oil that needs HAND behind it.
@chrisleeleslie2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, this ball can move if you have the hand. Sharpest ball i own! I love it
@brettrobbins27073 жыл бұрын
Jungo on the lanes
@brianhaidle34743 жыл бұрын
When I was bowling for Lord Field I receive 4 of the same balls. I would drill 2 pretty standard, one a little less aggressive, 1 pin down to see how that reacts and give one away to my local youth program.
@hughfisher19693 жыл бұрын
Many moons ago I bought two code red , one pin up one pin down. Honestly stopped using them after the statement solid came out which became my go to ball which has switched to the phase 2
@flippperboy3 жыл бұрын
I get 2 of the same sometimes But just save the extra when the other ball is not reacting good anymore (phase 2). I cannot believe how slow the zen master is. I’m really considering it for short patterns. Thanks for the great review.
@anthonydorazio96503 жыл бұрын
Nice video guys have two Zens awesome peice drilled very close and two Axiom Pearls we have light oil conditions on house shots. Jordan I think you can make that Zen your next favorite you throw that NICE.😃
@demisephil3 жыл бұрын
Just started my bowling ball stash. For when the stuff that I love now, dies. I can drill up some fresh ones!
@homegymhulk72562 жыл бұрын
Oh definitely , when my Rubicon dies it's getting replaced with another one for as long as they make them.
@Tribenix3 жыл бұрын
5:38 Spongeball spherepants
@garybrewer87823 жыл бұрын
Im on ball #4 with the IQ tour, been my go to on house shots and the fresh since introduced, alway been pin down (55x5x70)
@grillmaster953 жыл бұрын
I've owned 3 IQ tours, 3 marvel pearls, and 2 IQ tour pearls. I threw the marvel pearls and the IQ tour on literally everything for a solid 3 to 4 years lol.
@dragoon12053 жыл бұрын
Honestly once my brunswick rhino dies out ill be wanting to drill another one for sure although I did recently pick up the hustle wine and i am loving that ball alot
@GhostiePostie3 жыл бұрын
I'll need another Idol Synergy before that gets discontinued. My benchmark/Utility ball
@mattspeer66723 жыл бұрын
Love my synergy too, got it drilled pin down & it hits like a tank!
@GhostiePostie3 жыл бұрын
@@mattspeer6672 Right above my ring finger on mine, but I've been thinking about a pin down too! Glad you like yours
@thadrand28753 жыл бұрын
Looks like a great piece!! I like the reactions of both balls!! I also have the IQ Tour drilled pin up and pin down…
@bubbalive32772 жыл бұрын
I had two Defiant Souls. Loved that ball. One pin up and One Pin Down.
@mikegreene86102 жыл бұрын
I would play with the surface of the zen master
@hersheljones94673 жыл бұрын
Haven’t yet but I wish I would have got two crux primes
@RV126ICE3 жыл бұрын
Did not expect it to be weaker than axiom. Disappointing
@BentheBowler3 жыл бұрын
Got 2 of the idol and idol synergy. Love both balls.
@Rowestah3 жыл бұрын
ZM is so bad. Ball will be discontinued in no time.
@ryanvoight92463 жыл бұрын
I have had a total of 5 Venom shocks. :D
@scottcushard74673 жыл бұрын
So far in my league bag (i bowl two men leagues) my play style is more of a stroker, i got in my main bag a phaze 3 a hyroad max and an astro physix the hyroad is really my go to ball then phaze 3 pin down im trying to build a good arsenal just dont know which ball would compliment the phaze 3 and hyroad i have a pro motion and omega crux in my back up bag but never really threw good with those too what would y’all recommend league is coming up quick and im excited
@anthonydorazio96502 жыл бұрын
Sir I had the Phase 3 nice also the Astro sweet if you like them I highly suggest Axiom Pearl (it's getting discontinued I got two) or the Zen you can thank me later.😀😃🙂
@drivillain49673 жыл бұрын
Had two Wicked Sieges, two Zens, and 2 Outbursts. If I really like it, I'll get a second. Getting a Master, maybe a second If it rolls good.
@anthonydorazio96502 жыл бұрын
Nice on the Zens I have a Proton my buddy has the Master likes it. Just got the Phase 2 ,Master looks good 👍
@Yagayee3 жыл бұрын
You have 6 NIB idols...... Lol your gonna have that ball in your bag until 2024 for sure
@jrproshop3 жыл бұрын
I think 1 a year so 2027 hahah hopefully find a replacement by then 😂😂
@Drshockfreeze3 жыл бұрын
I have a 15lb Idol Undrilled. HMU.
@kingsantana4243 жыл бұрын
Explain what it mean to have a pin up versus pin down with the same ball? Thanks somebody
@jrproshop3 жыл бұрын
Pin up = pin above the finger holes. Pin down = pin below the finger holes
@fengmoua.1 Жыл бұрын
Do u bowl with 15lb balls or 16lb?
@jefftennant2183 жыл бұрын
I would get a second ball a couple years later(if available). It may get drilled the same way or it may get tweaked because my game may have gotten better since I had the first one.
@chrisleeleslie2 жыл бұрын
Love this ball, I noticed i had to slow my speed down for it to really turn the corner
@jimk92902 жыл бұрын
Yes, I have two 900 Global Aspects drilled exactly the same. Polished and OOB. These balls are basically exactly the Zen Master with core numbers and coverstock. They just came out a year earlier, with lots of Covid.
@GennyI3eerDrinkr2 жыл бұрын
I think they should release a hybrid zen, and call it the Total Zen.
@mattspeer66723 жыл бұрын
I have a phaze 2, idol & idol pearl pin up & pin down.
@TheDarkCreeper3 жыл бұрын
Hey do you know what the title of the song that plays at 1:34? I really like it. Thanks for the ball review btw
@jrproshop3 жыл бұрын
It’s called “Sing Sin” by Mentes Vacias
@TheDarkCreeper3 жыл бұрын
@@jrproshop thank you so much, u make the best ball reviews! Keep going and you will be at 100K soon. :)
@treyarico81403 жыл бұрын
Love him
@bradhoyer84463 жыл бұрын
RST X-2 please
@bradhoyer84463 жыл бұрын
RST X-2 please
@bradhoyer84463 жыл бұрын
RST X-2 please
@Mainzer743 жыл бұрын
I buy two of the same very often
@brockkintner3 жыл бұрын
3 different times I’ve bought the same ball and drilled them exactly the same once the old ones wore out. Hustle Ink, Idol Pearl and GB 2 Phenom Pearl. And If I could I would buy all 3 again lol
@jayfrancois24533 жыл бұрын
If I could find a new AMF AMForce 4, I'd buy it in a heartbeat. Best ball I've ever used.
@russellgilbert34533 жыл бұрын
Zen Master looks like fresh conditions ball.
@josephgod1013 жыл бұрын
I got a nib idol. I am about the drill it tonight
@zachotek94993 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love the video and absolutely love the channel!! Watch every video … but this ball is trash !!!!
@jrproshop3 жыл бұрын
Thanks zac! Haha I wouldn't say trash just not for everyone