957: Fyre Festival- The Story Netflix did Not Tell with Marc Weinstein

In this episode, Sal, Adam, and Justin speak with Marc Weinstein, who was featured in Netflix's just released documentary Fyre. Marc goes into detail about what led him to work with the festival, why he stayed to the disastrous end and what he learned from the experience. This is a very interesting conversation with a behind the scene look at the music festival business, the power of social media and the damage that one charismatic sociopath can inflict.
What Marc does for a living, his background and how he connected with Mind Pump? (2:06) What are some of the most profitable music festivals and the challenges you would face starting one? (8:50) Did he know what he was getting into when he switched from finance to event production? (14:50) How he ‘fell’ into the music industry. (18:09) Why the events industry is always a mess and the need to just ‘figure it out’. (21:10) How did he meet Billy McFarland and the founders of the Fyre Festival? (23:45) How did he deal with the coordination and stress of trying to accommodate the festival guests? (38:40) What were the conversations like with the other members of the production team while this debacle was going on? (42:37) Was there a thought process to postpone? (45:27) How did he coordinate the festival guests off the island and when did he discover that Billy had committed wire fraud? (48:40) Was he afraid at any point the locals would get violent? (52:50) Who owns the footage from the documentary? Are we contributing to this sociopath? (53:48) How Fyre is just a microcosm of how social media portrays our lives. (58:55) What is the aftermath from this? (1:01:23) Does he find it cathartic to talk about it? Make amends with GoFundMe pages? How we could use social media for good. (1:03:40) How does he feel he has evolved from this? His take on the social media revolution. (1:09:00) Does he see an advantage of events like Burning Man unplugging from technology? (1:17:00) What practices does he implement to cope with social media addiction? (1:18:37) What is he currently pursuing? (1:20:57) Featured Guest/People Mentioned: Marc Weinstein (@warcmeinstein) Instagram Brett Kincaid (@bretthendersonkincaid) Instagram Ja Rule (@Ruleyork) Twitter Billy McFarland (entrepreneur) Tristan Harris (@tristanharris) Twitter Products Mentioned: January Promotion: MAPS Anabolic ½ off!! *Code “RED50” at checkout* FYRE: The Greatest Party That Never Happened | Netflix Official Site Lesson from the Fyre - Marc Weinstein - Medium Prime Social Group Live Nation Adds Governors Ball to Its Music Festival Lineup What Really Happened at the Sweetlife Music Festival TomorrowWorld: festival will have a bright future despite SFX bankruptcy XLIVE - Las Vegas The Matts Productions, LLC Insight Venture Partners: Venture Capital Firms NYC FYRE FRAUD Streaming Online | Hulu UNREAL-SYSTEMS Exuma Foundation for the locals impacted by Fyre Irresistible: The Rise of Addictive Technology and the Business of Keeping Us Hooked - Book by Adam Alter iGen: Why Today's Super-Connected Kids Are Growing Up Less Rebellious, More Tolerant, Less Happy--and Completely Unprepared for Adulthood--and What That Means for the Rest of Us - Book by Jean M. Twenge PhD BRICK Siempo

[@sunniavonrep3148]

The cheese sandwich memes aside, the lady who managed to feed all those people even that out of her pocket was the mvp

[@Nazylexx]

Didn't someone later raised money for them?

[@raefarnsworth4278]

@@Nazylexx No, but they should.

[@nihilismistheonlyway4680]

He gets to talking about Fyre right about 25:00 You're welcome 😎

[@BraidsAndBonnets]

Bless your heart

[@tamaracharese]

Thank you... he was just rambling

[@nihilismistheonlyway4680]

MICHAEL CRASH no problem.

[@fergusferguson5304]

Thank you 🙏

[@eparpie272]

Yeah thanks. At 1.50 and theres a motherfucker trying to sell me shit..... I was willing to listen, but you done fucked it up.

[@violetbrown8998]

Aside from KZbin, I am completely disconnected from social media. It's not easy, but it gets easier over time. Do it. Life is beautiful.

[@tediousbrief5944]

@@bethart1985 -Spends 16 hours on KZbin a day.

[@XOXO___3]

KZbin an twitter. Instagram if you have a business

[@tavoiaiono7885]

Yeah me too. Over 12 months now. At least utube you're not bombarded with shit.

[@tavoiaiono7885]

@@tediousbrief5944 yeah are watching and educating yourself or just stupid shit? I use utube for documentaries and sometimes sport highlights. But that your thing non of my business.

[@sole__doubt]

Its like any other bad habit/addiction. Like cyan pepper said,its not easy to quit. Especially if you really make them a part of your life, it a difficult thing to stop.

[@MandiCurls]

“At least they will be seeing your smiling face doing yoga poises” 😐

[@Bm23CC]

shocking .

[@EssentialOilStories]

Yeah, that must have been quite a moment for him. Like wow.

[@akristen4971]

Right...

[@Umdringside]

At least Billy has time to do yoga in prison 😂

[@75aces97]

23:22 Andy in Netflix doc mentions what a mess the original Woodstock was but there was one major difference between that and failures like Fyre. Woodstock organizers were also amateurs, but the one thing they had to get right was the music, and they delivered. The bands they promised all performed. People can forget certain discomfort if they get the experience they come for.

[@danieledwards3376]

Fyre wasn't really sold on the music, though, it was sold on luxury, glamour and Instagram "celebrities".

[@75aces97]

@@danieledwards3376 I know, but I meant that Woodstock didn't do everything right, but did deliver the one thing that people came for. Fyre advertised many things, but delivered none of them.

[@zamir4618]

@@75aces97 they got cheese sandwiches tho

[@75aces97]

@@zamir4618 True. Nothing like a good cheese sammich.

[@richardburchett]

What the Woodstock audience came to experience vs. what the Fyre audience was looking to experience says a lot about modern society

[@beejaysphotos]

Where is jah we need to make sense of all this #davechapelle

[@romancastro_]

Willard Haywood after watching the documentary , I have the same question..,

[@ohboi718]

Yeah we need to hear Jeffrey's side of this 🤔 I wanna know what 50 had to say about this 😂😂😂😂

[@depone6334]

all these years i been trying to figure out where Jah is and what he has to say about all this

[@OWOT-re5jf]

The douche bag tried to say that it wasn't fraud; just false advertising. He needs to go to prison. Such a jerk.

[@ohboi718]

@@OWOT-re5jf I agree .... He is a POS

[@1sTEfFaniE1]

If they had just put half as much effort into planning the actual festival as they did into planning their social media campaign it could have been a success.

[@Claytondupuis]

No matter what they did, the festival would have been a failure on their 6 month timeline. One would need to burn Richard Branson level money to have built the infrastructure necessary under such an impossible deadline, and the concept of breaking even would have still been absoloutley laughable.

[@1sTEfFaniE1]

@@Claytondupuis well putting effort into planning the thing would have included having a realistic timeline and budget to work with.

[@77Avadon77]

@@Claytondupuis I don't know, six months is still quite a generous amount of time had they gotten on it immediately. When told by one of the employees that they should start immediately they dismissed him. They really didn't get into high gear until about a month-and-a-half out. That's when they started stressing out and had problems with catering and everything else. Had they actually started six months out building bars and stages and everything else they could have at least had something decent to show. It might not have been to the highest standard but it would have been something acceptable

[@oisinquinn9469]

@@1sTEfFaniE1 with a realistic budget it would never happen

[@jjfiend]

77Avadon77 that, annnd they were getting drunk ALLLLL the time 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@k.stacey7389]

I work for one of the top concert/festival companies he mentioned. We were laughing our asses off at the first Fyre promo video alone. It was never going to happen and was an obvious “dumpster fyre” from day one. Absolute delusional ridiculousness.

[@hildajensen6263]

I'm just a person with life experience, and even I could tell it was bullshit. There's no such thing as a luxury festival for thousands of people. It simply can't be done.

[@MissOrchid12]

And who with that promo vid - who was their target demographic anyway (apart from people who had money to burn)?? Wasn't clear who they were targeting. It looked like a turn out of college kids who eventually came, not elite 'a' lister types.

[@weltonvillegal6258]

Hilda Jensen - If they had planned and worked it for 18 months instead of 8 weeks, it could have worked. And if there were legit people running it.........

[@Trid3nt861]

@@MissOrchid12 i think Mcfarlane and Ja Rule were targeting guilable millenials who wanted to live the fantasy rich lifestyle and get the chicks, same with the women who thought they would get the hot guys....... the end result was a borderline FEMA camp scam with "GOURMET" government public school bread and white cheese sandwiches with a garnish of basic lettuce, 3 tomatoes and some cheap dressing all in small white foam container.

[@cuixinshi]

The moment that you realized they are setting up a festival in 5 months. That’s impossible. There are too many factors that play into the festival.

[@Rideordiealmelo]

LMAO as long as we live in a world were people get paid 250k for a single tweet, nothing will change.

[@vancekangyishu]

RideorDie Almelo why doesn’t she use the 250000 to the poor workers? Fking bitch

[@ohboi718]

Facts 😂

[@77Avadon77]

I know right why didn't Kendall Jenner donate that money to the victims instead of keeping it. What a sadistic selfish bitch

[@Trid3nt861]

@@77Avadon77 kendal would just get cans of Pepsi and hand them out to everyone and believe that would fix things.

[@camillatruquesdebeleza7086]

Can you imagine making all this money to do something that takes only a few minutes? That’s insane

[@LukeChristopherPhoto]

I've worked in this industry down in Miami, it was hard enough in a city, I can't imagine trying to pull something like that off in a remote location in such a short time. But Marc is right, there are some great people to work with who can pull off miracles, and there is a sense of pride and duty to pull off the event. Luckily I've never had to deal with anyone like BF.

[@tristanbaravraham6349]

Yes, the Netflix documentary led me here. Very glad to be here, fascinating commentary and pretty good comments to boot. It does make you wonder how a fool and their money get together in the first place. Maybe a dad who was ruthless in real estate maybe? Oh, well. It's good to know 90% of the US Navy is still S.E.A.L.s. makes me sleep easier. I really do have to say what huge huevos to stay and work on the wreckage. That really is very impressive and shows enormous character.

[@heavenleigh2463]

Marc seems to be a true professional and man of integrity.

[@natashaalexander4651]

It would be amazing if someone could pick up the Fyre Festival idea, scale the concept down to reality, and actually create something magical. I would definitely go

[@ohboi718]

Facts .... Its was a great concept but was poorly executed

[@77Avadon77]

They have it it's called Burning Man

[@natashaalexander4651]

@@77Avadon77 Burning Man is NOTHING like what Fyre Fest would have been. Burning man is the middle of the desert and it is NOT a music festival. I'm a burner 2014, 2016 and hopefully 2019.

[@BlackGypsyCharm]

Fyre festival 2.0 coming up soon courtesy of jarule

[@thomasmills339]

No. All the bands suck. Plus it's been done. Lollapalooza and they ruined that.

[@eswag153]

This dude is a fantastic storyteller

[@jasontoi8628]

Marc Weinstein is actually a smart and loyal person. Good to hear his perspective.

[@jcrisp90]

I really like this guy, he seems articulate, honest with humility

[@GaellynGarb]

Really great interview. Enlightening on so many level, not only about that Fyre disaster.

[@sxerosie]

This was an interesting perspective, thanks for sharing!

[@shaykendall8742]

"I don't know what happened to that Fyre Merch, I think people are wearing it all over the Bahamas" I'm from here. I can confirm hundreds of teenagers and University of the Bahamas students have them. 🤣

[@yashsinghal1023]

😆

[@mario10zeus]

Don't throw them away, they might be expensive souvenirs or collectors items someday.

[@mariaearaya8934]

I went to both 90s festivals. The first one was so much better. I wish you would do it again!!!

[@AzeraV]

Came for the festival talk but the internet addiction points definitely hit me.

[@acbc3543]

I think there’s a sense of PTSD over these people about Fyre ! They’ve never gotten over it since they show each and every detail .

[@yashsinghal1023]

Great interview , Marc.. I was skeptical but in the end I kind of understand how might he have struggled through ..plus staying long after the fest is over to coordinate supplies shows his integrity

[@seanmoloney7797]

This guy’s a boss. He was the only one in the whole affair that seemed legit and was doing his job when everybody around him stopped.

[@cosmik7147]

I've been seeing a lot of people debate on which documentary they should watch. The one on Netflix or the one on Hulu, I personally enjoyed the one on Hulu a little bit more, but in my opinion is best to watch both. The perspectives in each film are totally different

[@debbiep99]

The one on Hulu paid the scam artist. No thanks

[@cosmik7147]

@@debbiep99 then don't watch it. Wtf do I care

[@ernestolefebre9048]

@@debbiep99 The one on Netflix paid the media company in charge of marketing the festival lol

[@debbie2042]

Only one has Andy King saying he was prepared to suck a dick to release water for the festival. Thats the Netflix one.

[@LadyLawyerG]

Watch both. Hulu then Netflix..different perspectives

[@cbrogan100]

I live under a rock but this was a really nice interview with some down to earth people. What stuck out is when Marc said why was he in the doco so much when he was involved for a month. He just has this voice of reason I think and just naturally is a great person to have speaking to us about something like this.

[@s0fa274]

Really insightful interview, this guy is really well spoken.

[@eugeniageneva]

My dad was a tour manager for Hank Jr., Lynyard Synyard, Willie, Tritt, Patti Loveless, Jodee Massina, Charlie Daniels, Gov’t Mule... and hundred of others. I use to tour with Hank Jr. (tag along with dad on the band bus for weeks through my summer break from school).... and Mark is correct... 100%%%%%%%%% concert/music traveling circus 🎪, is absolutely nonstop fucking fire 🔥 squashing. Everything goes wrong from production truck broke down and is not here with all the cords, that literally, hook up everything... to... fucking band members hung over and or already shit faced for the night... wives destroy the hotel room after a fight with drunk guitarist husband.... promoter didn’t hire the right amount of of security for 50,000 people heading in, in about 5 hours....on and on and on... lmao

[@annadaae26]

Hmm... they charged $6 to get into Woodstock, promised and sold no lodging and didn't even promise more than live music, which actually showed up.

[@arsenioibay414]

Fyre didn't last long enough, and I bet the boys at Fyre had more pressing things on their mind (food, water, shelter) than getting their wicks slick

[@aro5490]

that wasn't at the original Woodstock festival. They were talking about the original 60's Woodstock

[@tweeztweet287]

Well that show was a disaster for many other reasons but i feel you and would say times were different back then, ppl are waaay more entitled now and that means pampering is a must at the these big events for ppl w money

[@YungM.D.]

tweez tweet Totally agree. Just a different era, different values, even the social media effect; social media would’ve killed Woodstock but at the time the overall message of the festival was what was covered. I don’t think we’ll ever get an event like that again.

[@seanconroy3567]

One is in NY the other is in a foreign country and on an island...

[@StookyBill]

i love that time stamped the questions, thank you!

[@victortrejo7443]

Thanks for posting. The additional insight gave an even further background into how this mess happened.

[@maiyamerrick3323]

As an event coordinator, this is so refreshing to hear!

[@hanzzyolo8240]

Best pod cast I've heard in awhile

[@zachtrapper2398]

Good talk. They picked the right guy for this interview.

[@cspeidel331]

I have a thesis that Ja Rule threatened Billy to take the fall for the festival. Ja was proud to be promoting the festival in the build up, but when shit hit the fan he seemed to just be able to distance himself from it all with little to no repercussions. I really think he privately told Billy to take the fall or something bad would happen to him because in the Hulu doc Billy gets asked where Ja Rule was during this, and Billy very lightly talks about "private conversations" they had to keep it going. This is a thesis but it would make sense to me

[@Mademoiselleantoine]

That's an outstanding thesis. I feel like Ja Rule should take the blame for the festival mess. He's also participating in the chaos. Honestly, He should count his blessing for not going to prison.

[@grainofsalt4934]

Ja Rule is a coward

[@bigtakeshi]

You should've talked about the meeting near the end where Ja Rule says 'that's not fraud, that' false advertising." It seems Ja Rule apparently KNEW they were lying and let them do it.

[@AlbertLara]

bigtakeshi Yes! Exactly! To me, That was actually the most memorable clip of the documentary.

[@nihilismistheonlyway4680]

I bet legally they're not really supposed to mention him and his part in all this.

[@AlbertLara]

LosAngeles FlyerClub Ja Rule is scratching and clawing to stay relevant. Too bad he can’t realize that the end of his career was when he started “singing” ghetto love songs with Ashanti in the early early 2000s.

[@rosieposie5241]

He mentions it pretty much summed up what he thought about it

[@cjspyker]

he wasn't in that meeting I believe

[@gordo4300]

I like how he knew it was going to be a scam/disaster but decided to stick with it until the very end and now gets to act like a martyr.

[@77Avadon77]

I think he got caught up in it and was trying to bail water even as it was sinking. While on the other hand a lot of other people distanced themselves early.

[@littleseamstress]

exactly what i was thinking. he acts like hes above it and better than it but he jumped on the organizing team for housing up until the day it came

[@kelsey4087]

Agreed! I feel like a bunch of people involved with Fyre are placing too much blame on "social media". Our fixation with it probably isn't very healthy, but social media is not fundamentally evil in and of itself. A whole team of people used social media to mislead a bunch of people into spending their money on a festival that they couldn't deliver. That was wrong!

[@yashsinghal1023]

See i don't know much about the others but I really think Marc was sincere like I could understand why he could have stayed back then , plus remember he was in the production only one month back and was told to allot that no of people , I really don't think he has much of a choice , for him it sounds like a good opportunity and only to allot a certain no of bed especially when he didn't see the camp at least....

[@keithymg]

Great Interview, he was the only one I kind of liked other than the Bahamians. After this, I really like him.

[@Smc954]

Thats awesome that the people on the island is getting paid back through a go fund me but i dont think its right at all that the people responsible isnt paying up and everyone else is fixing his wrong. A lot of people ask why didnt ja step up and pay some back the same can be said about the promo models that made way more than what that women at the restaurant lost could of pitched in and helped out but they arent and week to week paycheck people are..

[@Smc954]

manic hispanic it was one lady that started it but a lot of these people that were involved with the festival were promoting that particular page and they ended up raising the money for the lady whose restaurant it was shes a great lady and gave the extra money do some of the people that work on the site

That poor woman who busted her ass and used her own money I truly felt for bc you can see her heart was so involved in her craft..I said man I hope she comes back into two times the money that was STOLEN from her..and recently hearing that she did made me believe there was some hope left in people. She was willing to lose it all just to keep her integrity at the highest possible level..I ever visit the island soon I would like to stop by her restaurant I heard nothing but positives about it

[@quatermass8]

Wonder what the prick Billy is doing how.

[@FlyPsiche]

Quatermass hopefully is giving some booty

[@kelsey4087]

@@quatermass8 He is in prison for the next 6 years for wire fraud

[@fnk101]

Great interview learnt some stuff

[@ki2the2nd]

Cool interview. Funny to find out Marc has a similar background as me (corporate banking) before going into events production.

[@begonafernandez4]

This guy knows what he is talking about, he continued working with them because deep inside him he wanted to believe he was working with professionals! Please, follow your intuition not your hopes!!

[@tminusnyc2915]

This was a great podcast. Marc seems like a stand up guy.

[@tinystarProductions]

Fantastic episode!!

[@lisamoses5821]

Very informative

[@TheMidasTouch11]

Great interview!

[@remuslovegood6666]

I enjoyed listening

[@JACKINBENCAP]

What happened to the bucket of keys?

[@Ezinma88]

Great interview.

[@brandonlee93]

Excellent interview. I used to throw raves back in the day and I can relate, albeit not on the scale Fyre was on…thankfully. I never made a dime, usually broke even. I did it for the love of the scene and the music and to try to give people a good time. Had a so called friend at the time who would take credit for those events behind my back while simultaneously never lifting a finger to do the dirty work. One of the parties went south and wouldn’t you know it. That so called friend flipped a 180 and said it wasn’t his party after telling everyone it was. There’s conmen left and right in the entertainment industry, no matter the size.

[@TheJaybrone]

If they had just waited till Fyre was actually a working web program they could have had both the time and the capital to do this.

[@77Avadon77]

Or why not just throw small parties in clubs to gain attention for the app. Something like that is definitely much easier to do and do repeatedly successfully. Why choose the hardest type of Festival in the most remote place possible for your first unveiling. Totally stupid. The worst thing is that he's not even a good con artist

[@jjfiend]

TheJaybrone they rushed all of the wrong things and started waaay too late

[@9melissal]

Because he was already millions in debt from ticket scams for his credit card app and he needed the profits and notoriety from the festival to pay it back and fund and propel the Fyre website.

[@pktheviking]

Good all around interview.

[@kadeen876]

This kinda helped to bring some of the missing pieces together

[@ion1992]

Day 1 Woodstock ,1969 Friday, August 15 to Saturday, August 16 Richie Havens Swami Satchidananda Sweetwater Bert Sommer Tim Hardin Ravi Shankar Melanie Arlo Guthrie Joan Baez Day 2 Woodstock 1969 Saturday, August 16 to Sunday, August 17 Quill Country Joe McDonald Santana John Sebastian Keef Hartley Band The Incredible String Band Canned Heat Mountain Grateful Dead Creedence Clearwater Revival Janis Joplin and the Kozmic Blues Band Sly & the Family Stone The Who Jefferson Airplane Day 3 Woodstock 1969 Sunday, August 17 to Monday, August 18 Joe Cocker and the Grease Band Country Joe and the Fish Ten Years After The Band Johnny Winter Blood, Sweat & Tears Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young Paul Butterfield Blues Band Sha Na Na Jimi Hendrix You seriously have to reconsider your thoughts before even bringing Woodstock Fest into this. Its like comparing Woodstock musicians to Fyre Festival Musicians

[@tuduff]

Is only me or someone else is thinking how to make this event happen in a different way? Someone please make the fyre festival game

[@That1Guy]

"its a great concept"

[@Nerevar5me]

I’ve seen so many articles written about the insidious and manipulative nature of social media like Marc talks about at 1:10:50.

[@ncthriller4465]

i dont see how the app was viable in the first place....im curious as to when they intended on actually turning a profit. festival or no festival. hanging out with jarule isnt a business model. aside from investor capital, how much did they actually make? while watching the netflix doc. it seemed like a bunch of kids playing big board member with other peoples money.

[@SwitcherooU]

None of the numbers ever added up, EVER, in any of Billy's ventures. Tickets for Fyre were $500-12,000, and they sold 6,000 of them. Even if all those people spent $5,000 on their tickets and each put another $5,000 on that fucking bracelet (what a fucking scam THAT was), that's nowhere near enough money to be paying $6m for sushi and Indian cuisine, let alone for booking and building villas. Why did so many people dump money into this?

[@muchograndeyolatengo]

Yeah. I don't get all of these business people calling (and still calling) the app genius. How do you scale an app like that? The market must be extremely small and even if it isn't there must be a limit of c-celebrities willing to prostitute themselves and only one place they can be at any time.

[@michaelblair1582]

Fascinating discussion. Marc should go on Joe Rogan as well. Would be a fantastic podcast.

[@thomasmills339]

Rogan is an idiot.

[@kadeen876]

Hmmm I thought Mary-Ann said her friend set up the GoFundMe and then tried to get her to sign a contract to give her half or nothing. Mary-Ann said she contacted GoFundMe and told them to send the donations back and they worked with her to get her the funds and that’s how she was able to recoup and pay some of the labourers. Marc’s account of this is quite questionable

[@stormrhode2330]

This poor dude even sounded exhausted. Haha I remember learning about this event a while back when my brother played me the Internet Historian video explaining it. Wild stuff. Also, I keep my phone in the other room when I sleep. The challenge is convincing anyone else to do the same. 😮‍💨

[@24chataway]

REEEALLY rate Marc. Totally Genuine Totally Honest TOTALLY HUMBLE!

[@raineyj560]

If they bring back CD walkmans, I can do without my phone for a day. I need my music😊

[@jonhelmer8591]

Get a walkman radio, it also means you'll step out of your comfort zone and listen to someone else's playlist

[@raineyj560]

@@jonhelmer8591 sounds doable. I love all types of music

[@nakmuay7705]

just found mine! hooray xmas '97!

[@raineyj560]

@@nakmuay7705 😊😊😊

[@77Avadon77]

Normally I do not attribute malice where only ignorance is suspected. However after watching this I feel confirmed that Billy was trying to do the minimum that he could to appear as if he tried to pull the festival off even though this was just a total fraudulent scam with no intention of ever living up to the expectation of what was promised.

[@SarelleSirius]

This is a huge possibility. At first I thought he wouldn’t have flown a bunch of people out there if it was a scam because at that point he wasn’t getting more money from them. However, he could have flown everyone out specially to be able to argue that it wasn’t a scam.

[@doroparker1702]

Everyone who booked a ticket did not think it over. A music festival is crowded. Think of a Billie Eilish concert. Luxury? Lonesome beach? Hahaha, not possible. There is no privacy and there is no lonely space. So it can only be either or the other.

[@raineyj560]

That social media book tho.

[@thomasmills339]

The equipment was " compounded " fucking genius.

[@LadyLawyerG]

Interesting how folks who caused or participated in the disastrous event wanted to continue to profit off of it . Im.glad too hear a few folks stepping up to give back or repay $$$$ to workers/contractors. But the name dropping 🤔🤔🤨

[@yudivazquez1296]

Marc is fine.

[@danieldixon7660]

WHERE'S JAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!🤣🤣

[@JoyLearnSallay]

Even still, you CAN give Billy that much credit...for sociopathy, absolutely. He would rather scorch earth it, than take a personal hit. So who do you want to be here at the end? Not those folks! Thanks for this, and good luck further to you Weinstein, et al....

[@mario10zeus]

Marc makes good point and a lot of things now makes sense, I was skeptical initially. Now if I were him, I would've left as soon as I see how sketchy Billy was acting as the fallout could affect his career too.

[@AnhNguyen-fj5yp]

20:40 did he talked about Music Midtown ?

[@ckotcher1]

What a beautiful man

[@bhusar1]

Um no, No comparison to Woodstock. First, Woodstock wasn’t sold as a luxury event. Only 2 people died at Woodstock, one was run over by a tractor that the person was sleeping under and the farmer didn’t know, another was a drug overdose. They also had music planned. They had acts lined up all set to play, Fyre didn’t. The organizers also made consideration for the safety of the people like providing food and getting with the Hog Farm members to set up a bad trips tent for people having bad acid trips and also having them provide food with brown rice and granola when the concessions ran out.

[@Lalop0p]

Link to GoFundMe pages???

[@olguiq1013]

Honestly... I WOULD HAVE WALKED AWAY!!

[@kushtrimskenderi8381]

smh I just notice you have a visual version of this after I finished listening

[@heidiheaux7007]

I’m halfway through, where is that?

[@yzwme586]

just from a logistics stand point how did anyone not see this train wreck coming? how are you going to fly out 10000 people via PRIVATE PLANE to a small island in the bahamas? I saw this coming a mile away

[@woodyhorton8537]

Fly them to a bigger island then onto a fleet of boats maybe lol

[@Trid3nt861]

I could see this event falling flat on its face once I saw the ad... Ja Rule and Billy Mcfarlane should be in jail for this

[@pamelalansbury94]

Billy is, somehow Ja Rule isn’t.

[@MyKombucha]

44:50 and 47:10 Founder + 5 core Fyre Festival organizers. The douche bags behind the project. 48:45 all but one (who was hyperventilating into a paperbag... (Note: I'm dying, lol) gone by the time the festival starts.

[@79narz]

This is a coup, a Rogen caliber guest (based on current affairs) on mind pump.

[@grainofsalt4934]

Isn’t it strange how similar Billy looks like Seth McFarland

[@TheBloodyMaryBro]

We need pod sponsorship

[@antoniovalencia9041]

Honest man!!!

[@JacklynCunningham]

honestly, what would be my life without technology? I wake up, study on my laptop for an hour WHILE listening to podcasts, ( because our generation always has to be doing multiple things at once). then I go to class, where I'm on my laptop again,, then I come home, probably watch a few youtube videos while I relax and eat, then spend the rest of my day again on my laptop writing reports and studying for school. Probably when I'm finished I'd use technology less

[@heidiheaux7007]

I’d love to know your GPA, “studying” like that. Listening to music is one thing, but listening to a podcast requires focus, which means you can’t fully focus on your books/notes.

[@asmrcity3147]

Geez he’s hot

[@MaleTears]

D I TT O

[@reabetsweimanmoabi7911]

Absolutely 😍

[@farhan022692]

Pervert

[@richieadams6701]

Everyone complaining about the first 25 minutes NOT being what the title says are probably the same people that actually went to the fucking fyre festival!

[@kobygrimes1234]

Fucking awesome podcast

[@shadygrove91204]

Fact-check : At 20 minutes, he's talking about Tomorrowworld 2015 and he understates the attendance at ~30,000. The attendance was WAY more at actually ~190,000 with 40,000 of those staying in on-site camping. The size of the crowd was a big factor into why SFX's stocks tanked to $0.01, and finally bankrupt. I'm about to listen to the rest of this and no doubt will find more that this kid doesn't really know what he's talking about.

[@FlyPsiche]

Of course he doesn't, you must be pretty stupid to remain on the boat if a week before the luxury event there where no toilets, tents and stages. He been hustling to find houses around the village until the last minute. BUT he's still funny to hear the shamble unfolding

[@elizabethfricker2247]

They say 190k but they don't say that it's 190k UNIQUE attendees. I always wonder how many individual people went as opposed to counting the 40k campers as 120k for going all three days. But yeah, it was still a shitshow the last year with all the mud. I went all three years and it was one of the best festivals ever. I wish it would come back but I understand why that's not really possible. I have heard from several people in the industry that a lot of pieces for the stages are still in storage here in GA.

[@commanderrussels2612]

Wow Mind Pump Radio is really good at not asking the tough questions. What a bunch of wimps. "Oohhh yeah, I can totally see how that happens now that you explain to me that you were just at your computer on the island" lol

[@mountainman6172]

Only scratch the surface. LOOL

[@brandysigmon9066]

Event producers work so so hard and don't get recognition or paid very much. I bet they make a pretty good wage. Millions of amazing people work extremely hard without any recognition , smh. All these assholes should be in jail. Every single one of them says after a while they knew they were lying about what was going on, all of them are responsible for this catastrophe

[@Juniper122]

MARC IS SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO CUTE

[@jayman327]

20:00 Imagine Music Festival

[@nicholasflanders9814]

Guarantee you if you would've asked Billy, pre Fyre Festival, his favorite movie, he would've said WOLF OF WALL STREET

[@ageofadversity]

I feel really bad for all the workers. Having worked a festival where the vendor cheated us workers out of all our tips, Big Sky festival in Montana, when we worked 12 hr shifts w zero breaks in the heat… Andrew of Homeslice pizza.. you suck

[@MrPagnito]

You guys should really change that intro...

[@LouKessler]

This didn't really add anything new to the documentaries, except that Marc doesn't think Billy is a genius.

[@Platypus2012]

One person died at Woodstock from a tractor accident during setup.

[@irvincooks1]

This comments section is juvenile. No insightful comments for pages.

[@craigcollinsjr]

Yours most notably.

[@RHCPndRATM]

Welcome to KZbin

[@vinylhorror]

Isn’t that every comment section?

[@clonesharpshooter101]

You must be new here.

[@jamespeterson8482]

Loved the podcast but “being in bit coin” is like saying “I’m in federal reserve notes.” What’s does that mean? It means that your working for a venture capital firm that is “long” on bitcoin.