Thank you. Very helpful. Maybe on future 98 inch comparisons you can spend 30 seconds showing the cable management of the TVs and how the TVs show on the wall when viewing the mounted TV from the side?
@ryanmilligan3243 Жыл бұрын
Would love to see a 98inch shootout. Q80c, this Sony, qm8 and Hisense 98inch for 2023. I have a c2 83 inch, my next tv will 100% be a 98 inch qled. Although I’m hesitant and have reservations to go from OLED to a qled
@gregitingen Жыл бұрын
Great idea. I have an 85 inch Samsung QN90A that I love and I have my eye on having a 98” inch TV in the near future. Would love to see that comparison .
@GamerplayerWT Жыл бұрын
One thing you failed to mention is how long each TV will last before any processing failures. My experience has been that Sony TVs and DVD players last MUCH longer than many other brands. I bought a Hisense TV not long ago and it only lasted 2 years. My current Sony is going on 3 years and has had zero problems. Something to think about in addition to price points.
@Coasterfan71 Жыл бұрын
I have a Sony 75X940C that I bought new almost 8 years ago that is still going strong. I moved it into my bedroom since I just bought the 85X93L for my living room.
@GamerplayerWT Жыл бұрын
@@Coasterfan71 I think the components Sony uses are obviously built to last.
@nastyboy2144 Жыл бұрын
What tv do people think is best for bedroom? I'm thinking like a 65 inch? What do you all recommend? So many choices out there now I'm worried to make the wrong choice when I could have made a better one. I don't want to be disappointed with my purchase wishing I had bought something else, after the fact, you know?
@GamerplayerWT Жыл бұрын
@@nastyboy2144 I prefer not to have a television in my bedroom. Most sleep experts recommend not having one in there, too. Just my two cents…
@nastyboy2144 Жыл бұрын
@GamerplayerWT gonna be having surgery soon and will be forced to stay laying in bed for a while so I need one in there now, LOL
@loudryka Жыл бұрын
TCL is 90% of features for half the price
@Chuck-- Жыл бұрын
90% of features, 70% of PQ.
@zachb12459 ай бұрын
And those features will work for a year max lol
@loudryka9 ай бұрын
@@zachb1245 tell that to my 2017 P607 still going strong.
@epoxy17108 ай бұрын
@@zachb1245my 2018 has around 80.000 hours on it, never had a glitch. Lol.
@whygamewhy7 ай бұрын
mhmm my 400 dollar monitor does 70% of the feature of the tcl too, which is make sound and produce 4k image. So what is your point?
@lvproductionsinc9748 Жыл бұрын
The difference in the scenes with avatar and the contrast and tone mapping is crazy. The Sony has a much better image just from those movie scenes alone.
@acidangel111 Жыл бұрын
But the Sony is such TRASH!!!! They haven't made a single good product in years
@drp8298 Жыл бұрын
Oh, you mean the local dimming, which is important, and the TCL is much better, because who already looks so extremely at home from the side
@rabbitazteca23 Жыл бұрын
yeah but Im not shelling extra 5k for that
@WaterspoutsOfTheDeep11 ай бұрын
hands down from the start the Sony obviously has more of a realistic and superior image quality
@drp829811 ай бұрын
@@WaterspoutsOfTheDeep 😆🤣🤣🤣
@michael-4k40004 ай бұрын
B wont be happy until that entire wall is covered in Micro LED panel's LOL 😅
@michael-4k4000 Жыл бұрын
My Boy B is simply doing what no other installer is doing and no other YTer for that matter.....
@user-em7gk1ci9i Жыл бұрын
Would be great if you could compare this 98" Sony X90L to the Samsung 98" QN90A and Q80C
@marcelpatel90177 ай бұрын
I agree. I just bought a 75 inch Sony X80L after 13 years of owning my previous Sony KDL model 60 inch. Sony rules the roost in the world of tvs. You'll obviously pay more but that's for a good reason.
@michaelwyckoff7593 Жыл бұрын
King and Queen of the big A TV setups. Kudos Brandon and Jenn😊😊
@AleksLazar Жыл бұрын
Informative review especially the mount suggestions as I plan for a giant upgrade. My takeaway is still wait for future minileds and honestly I want that 100” number
@starboy7151 Жыл бұрын
Hi to all my users if Yall Need a Highly Cool TV app of which is able To do it all now there is a very good tv app & its called (TV Quick Actions) & by using tvqa You will have full 100% capabilities of Doing it all Right From a TV & for example it is capable of Launching what ever app is on a TV Right From a TV boot up & will auto play a TV show/app/game/song/ From a key or start up it can schedulize stuff to happen such as auto playing tv shows by a time of day/night where you cant ever miss a TV show ever Again if you can do all this so much stuff imagine just what more yall can do with it & so a tv will be at a point where you can use it on Level as a PC computer or a idk a phone.. you can change HDMI port devices from a custom button change how slick/smooth a game or app will run with a non root frame rate changer /adjuster you can do all things Like on a computer or a phone
@robertmccloy481111 ай бұрын
Sony xr100 x92 a 100 inch TV priced at 7999
@AleksLazar11 ай бұрын
@@robertmccloy4811 It’s not 100” it’s 99.5”
@darynm Жыл бұрын
I appreciate all the work and effort the both of you put into creating content for the channel. An obvious hobby that many of us share, but you all take to a higher level. I pulled the trigger on the 98-inch TCL. Now an even better price point at 4K at Amazon and BB made it too easy. I also purchased the HumanCentric Full Motion Articulating mount. The mount is up, just waiting for the television stork to drop off the TV today! I hope it includes install! lol
@handroids198111 ай бұрын
Time for a 3 days later update! How is it and is it professionally calibrated?
@darynm11 ай бұрын
@@handroids1981 She is up and making my own calibrations. Movie mode out the box is good!
@o.c.g.m942611 ай бұрын
@darynm Dude....jealous for no reason 😂. Congrats, man. I'd have to switch my entire living room around for that 98 inches as of now, sitting 11 feet from my 77 & it still seems big. I'm guessing you're sitting 16 feet
@handroids198111 ай бұрын
@@darynm Good stuff. Sounds like you're well happy with the upgrade.
@paulshelton7574 Жыл бұрын
Great review! Thank you for your commitment to reviewing the biggest TVs out there, we all know that it is much more difficult.
@jenwalshwellbalancedlifestyle Жыл бұрын
Tough job, but somebody's gotta do it😁
@dperr338 Жыл бұрын
Does the TCL look kinda hazy looking to anyone else or is it just me. That Sony looks so clear and detailed.
@chefjefe68 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this detailed comparison, B. I cannot see having a 98" TV, given my set-up, but I appreciate your thoughts. For all that money, I would go 77" LG G3.
@alexfernando323010 ай бұрын
En mi país el lg g3 cuesta el doble que estas tvs de 98"
@Heimkineast Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the 98" TCL QM8 review and comparison
@XGiveMeLibertyX Жыл бұрын
65” Seems like a great TV size for most rooms. I just don’t understand why people would want to spend so much money on what has to be a pain in the ass to install in your home. Then you have to deal with removing it at some point in the future when you want to upgrade. If you can afford these tv’s you can probably afford to upgrade every 4 or 5 years.
@derrickforeal Жыл бұрын
I have the same wall mount . Install scewed up on one screw and when i got home from camping found my 88" tv floated into the center of the room come to find the one bolt came out and the frame warped and bent a little i tapped a hole in stub and zipped a new bolt in and it sucked back i to place and is fine those wall mounts are solid .
@rameshkumarrana912211 ай бұрын
I have just ordered tcl 98"...i hope i will get best thing for best price.
@ericmatthews8497 Жыл бұрын
The 83" to 85" TV is still the most cost effective size for a big screen. And there are Basic sets to fit the lowest Budgets ($850 Hisense), and Baller sets to break the bank (LG G3 OLED.)
@acidangel111 Жыл бұрын
No the 77 is the most cost effective. 83 when it comes to oleds is about 3000 more than the 77 counterparts
@ryanmilligan3243 Жыл бұрын
@@acidangel111I just bought a c2 83 inch for considerably less than a current priced c3, a90j, s95c, s90c 77 inch. With the c2 being virtually identical to the c3 in picture quality I’m over the moon
@ericmatthews8497 Жыл бұрын
@@acidangel111 Good point. The 83” LG G3 OLED doesn’t even have the new MLA (Micro Lensing Array) tech. The 77” has it. Not to mention 77” in isn’t much smaller than 83”.
@wi8855 Жыл бұрын
Question 🙋♂️ I have my first and only Samsung led from about 15 years ago still doing great. 98” TCL is what I am about to buy but what is the life span of a tv like this?
@walterverbeeck6929 Жыл бұрын
Longer than a oled tv, but the background licht on this tv's is also led.
@Greg-ve3fl Жыл бұрын
When I compare flat screen tvs at Walmart I look at the surface reflection when the TV's are off . And I have noticed on some of the screens it is a wavey reflection and other sets the reflection is flat and not wavey . I always get the flat reflection tv. That's in the top three brands.
@marcusturner5291 Жыл бұрын
Nice video keep up the good work B the installer
@dperr338 Жыл бұрын
Somy is worth the cost in my opinion. It has mostly subtle differences but it really adds up and looks more lifelike.
@tellinustr8up10 ай бұрын
not worth 5000$ more???
@davidpaul176710 ай бұрын
I’m wondering why you didn’t point out that TCL make the 3 screens available for the Sony, Samsung and TCL models? I would like to know why they use the same manufacturer for the panels and then use different chipsets to provide a different experience?
@seanhaley6721 Жыл бұрын
I know the Samsung 98" QLED 4K Q80C is not shipping yet - would love your thoughts on this upcoming release. Looking for best movie performance. Thanks for your content including letting us know the best wall mount for 98" systems.
@matanmaman733211 ай бұрын
Thx B I bought the C735 98-inch. It's very good. I was worried since I'm coming from:) Panasonicvt65:) Oled cx 77:) The Tcl is wow!!! It's the size. Your right.
@chebrubin Жыл бұрын
B is really giving the good advice here. Jen would approve. Why don't you take your channel and business into how to build out a space for a 98" TV. In a dedicated family / media room. What to buy from Ikea, what kind of seating? Keep putting the pugs in the videos.
@markgonzalez2927 Жыл бұрын
I would like to see a comparison of the Samsung Q80C
@terebinmain8 ай бұрын
Hey B, we have a new player in town: Hisense 100” U8K. Can we get showdown between the 3?
@marcsondlucce Жыл бұрын
Sony looks much better.
@versaleyang Жыл бұрын
For double the price, it better.
@StationOutlook Жыл бұрын
5 grand for a movie theatre experience is pretty dang good tho
@swapnilbakoliya2200 Жыл бұрын
@@StationOutlook is it 4k or 8k?
@StationOutlook Жыл бұрын
@@swapnilbakoliya2200 4k I believe.. 8k really isn't much of a focus for brands at the moment due to lack of content
@swapnilbakoliya2200 Жыл бұрын
@@StationOutlook yeah but 8k TV's can upscale the content to 8k upto some extent
@soyelmismo17 Жыл бұрын
I got the Sony 98” for 7500.00. I would have paid 10 k for it but timing is everything. Ships mid Aug !
@winciso Жыл бұрын
Can you tell where do you get if from at that price. ?
@soyelmismo17 Жыл бұрын
@@winciso Nebraska furniture Mart in the colony in Texas ,you have to buy it on tax free day -825.00 which is the first holiday in May they gave me an additional 500 off of that but made me buy a five year warranty so no biggie plus I got 1250 back with a particular credit card
@tonalddrump4128 Жыл бұрын
I really want to play spider man 2 on that tv holy shit
@walterverbeeck6929 Жыл бұрын
Energie must be dirt cheap in the US, how much power does those tv's consume?
@Sebastian-ll2co Жыл бұрын
Hey B! Enjoying the content and I was considering the TCL 98" TV, but ultimately I ended up going for the Samsung QN90B 85" instead. I am upgrading from a LG OLED 65" CX, and I think I would prefer a very acceptable 85" size and then better hardware with the chosen Samsung over the TCL.
@starboy7151 Жыл бұрын
Hi to all my users if Yall Need a Highly Cool TV app of which is able To do it all now there is a very good tv app & its called (TV Quick Actions) & by using tvqa You will have full 100% capabilities of Doing it all Right From a TV & for example it is capable of Launching what ever app is on a TV Right From a TV boot up & will auto play a TV show/app/game/song/ From a key or start up it can schedulize stuff to happen such as auto playing tv shows by a time of day/night where you cant ever miss a TV show ever Again if you can do all this so much stuff imagine just what more yall can do with it & so a tv will be at a point where you can use it on Level as a PC computer or a idk a phone.. you can change HDMI port devices from a custom button change how slick/smooth a game or app will run with a non root frame rate changer /adjuster you can do all things Like on a computer or a phone
@robertmccloy4811 Жыл бұрын
Very good review. But like many of these reviews of the TCL 754, they don't mention the very strong glare and Reflections coming off the screen of the TCL 754. The off angle viewing of the TCL is very poor. If you sit to the right or the left you lose brightness contrast and the picture looks washed out. Tcl's video processing is mediocre at best. If all you're going to do is watch 4K material the TCL will be fine. However if you're going to be watching cable,,SDR, streaming and other signals that need video processing upscaling you will be disappointed. It's unfortunate that these reviews do not include a comparison of the two TVs ability to upscale lower-resolution video signals.
@dojohansen1237 ай бұрын
He mentioned the glare and reflections. And judged them to be very similar to those on the Sony.
@JR-yp1hf Жыл бұрын
Well, it's too much for my room. 😂
@Hitman_Akhlaq Жыл бұрын
Can you review the Q80C against the TCL
@sj460162 Жыл бұрын
The time you guys invest in tvs for us doods is fantastic. Gee with all these amazing tvs its never been harder to spot a winner. For me its out of the QN95C and the G3. But then theres the A95L about to hit. Am I in the right park in a bright room?
@nimblegoat Жыл бұрын
If you have a 98" TV and you are watching it off axis you are doing something wrong
@donjaun54011 ай бұрын
Yes B if you can review all the 98 inch TVs from lowest price to highest. 👍😎
@gkinmotion Жыл бұрын
Greate comparison and wall mounting tips as usual! Would love to see how Samsung Q80C vs this TCL or Sony
@synaptichorizons Жыл бұрын
I'll be picking up the "TCL 98" Model: 98QM850G 4K MINI-LED QLED TV" from Best Buy soon as they've assigned it a Best Buy SKU#! Currently have the Sony 83" XR-A90J.
@BishopBrooks614 Жыл бұрын
I have no plans in the near future to buy this big of a TV, but gotta support my man B b/c I like his content and if I had to pick one it'd be a SONY.
@michaellundsrensen2292 Жыл бұрын
The Sony picture is better here on my small computer monitor, but the TLC is good. The video with two boys on a scooter, what's the title?
@jenwalshwellbalancedlifestyle Жыл бұрын
The movie is Luca. It's a cute family movie from Disney
@esmachine2305 Жыл бұрын
the sony has way better picture quality but not worth doble the price for me but my only worries is if the tcl will last im afraid of the quality sharp is coming back with a bang to america and they had good lasting tv with good prices
@billtinnell22069 ай бұрын
Sony easily wins this battle! You have to pay for what you get even at double the price. If you have the money the Sony is a no brainer. The difference is very clear. Just wait for this $10,000 Sony to go down in price to $8,000 during Black Friday or even next year around March or April when Sony closes out this model. Note: The cheap 98" TVs I've seen don't look very good when watching regular TV content and sports. If you want a great 98" TV you really should get a Sony because of the much more clearer and better picture!
@993mike Жыл бұрын
Going to wait until mini-LED or OLED come into the mainstream in a 98-100" size. I just can't give up my Sony A90J 83" picture quality to gain the next size up until it's on par or better picture wise.
@tomaszkrauzecom9 ай бұрын
great comparison💪🏻 I would like to know your opinion about 144 hz and booster acceleration to 240hz and is possible to use on ps5 ?
@69Dartman Жыл бұрын
I'd probably have to completely rearrange my living room setup to use a TV that big, the mount I have now wouldn't do the weight or vesa spacing. We also have 24" inch on center wall studs. I have the original mini led TCL here and a Z9K. I still like my TCL in my bedroom now, the Sony is in the living room. Of course the Sony is way better but the TCL was like 3 times cheaper and about 90 percent as good as the Sony. You pays yer money and takes yer chances but considering how similar they look I'd buy the TCL. The Z9K is on a whole other level picture and price wise so you either want the benefits it offers and can afford it or you get a TCL, save a bunch of money, and be happy.
@TJsVette Жыл бұрын
Is it me or does the Sony not look like it is a full 98 inches? The TCL looks bigger. The Sony looks better screen wise too
@alcawmk7 ай бұрын
the problem with the TCLs and the Hisenses of the the world isn't picture quality. It's the reliability. I've had both and the main issue is that the backlight dies out too soon. From now on, I'm sticking with either Sony, Samsung or LG.
@RandallLagunas2 ай бұрын
My 50 inch seems small but almost the right size.... I think a 80 to about 98 inch should be perfect but depends on brand makers.
@mjy-jb8ef Жыл бұрын
Can you compare TCL 98 vs Samsung 98-Inch Class QLED 4K Q80C?
@armend316 Жыл бұрын
Sony for me! Thank you! Sony user here since i was a kid! Thank you!
@massy1943 Жыл бұрын
How come the sony looks so much smaller?
@tazanddo Жыл бұрын
Thanks B and Jen. Is that a vertical band I'm seeing after the 2:33 - 3:20 mark, on the TCL?
@victorkoc6658 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this review. Can’t wait for the next 98 inch version coming comparison.
@aanucox86775 ай бұрын
The price never lies 😁
@r107560sl10 ай бұрын
For half the price I'll buy TCL within a heartbeat! I have had 3 TCL TVs for years, and I never encountered any quality issues. However, SONY I had bad experiences, a lot of problems after three years of usage.
@dojohansen1237 ай бұрын
These anecdotes are of rather dubious value. If you had 30 copies of two different models for a total of 60 TVs to compare you are starting to get to a point where, if there are significant differences, they are likely to show up... In practice, we'd need hard data. But one would think it wouldn't be technically that hard to establish such data. If regulators actually wanted, you know, an efficient market. For some strange reason they hardly ever seem to think of such things, and we are left having to guess. I bought a Sony last time around, replacing a Samsung from 2010, but only because by 2022 I tired of waiting for the TV to fail and wanted more bigger better, and I came across what seemed to be a really good sale on a Sony 85". It remains to be seen how long it lasts, but I am very happy with it so far despite some flaws.
@benc27987 ай бұрын
the image on the Sony looks better, but the difference is too small for twice the price.
@pokeverb Жыл бұрын
I love your channel keep on going! Big fan here !
@jenwalshwellbalancedlifestyle Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@pokeverb Жыл бұрын
@@jenwalshwellbalancedlifestyle no problem
@nsx2680 Жыл бұрын
I hope you included how fast or laggy the start up apps, or hiw fast the tv turn on or off. My current tcl android is so slow, not responding quickly
@reliev33 Жыл бұрын
this is my question get this over a short throw ? for a 100" screen? i was looking at LG without dolby vision its hard to justify the LG c3 97" after seeing this comparison also.
@Chuck-- Жыл бұрын
Between 2:55 and 3:00 do several freeze frames and compare the 2 TVs. Big difference in PQ.
@Schlock3000 Жыл бұрын
You can also freeze the video at other parts, and then the TCL has the clearer image. Seems to me that this is due to the videos not being 100% frame to frame.
@Chuck-- Жыл бұрын
@@Schlock3000 9:54 to 10:00 the TCL is missing 1/2 of the detail in the water as compared to the Sony.
@joshgreen7134 Жыл бұрын
B I need HELP I just ordered the qm8 85 and I need a good cheap wallmout what do you recommend.sould I go full motion or just flat it's my first 85 I'm sitting 15 feet away
@csscott9803 Жыл бұрын
I prefer the Sony one.
@teslacybertruck7509 ай бұрын
At 9:54 you can see the real beauty of the Sony ❤
@samueljackson1606 Жыл бұрын
You should've added the link for the IKEA stand. It is hard to find a stand that is wide enough to acomodate a tv that wide.
@soyelmismo17 Жыл бұрын
I went to ikea, there Besta series are very nice,tons of options however the MAX width on any besta config is 15”. The 98” will work but you will have 3” overlap as the legs are 18.25 “ long.
@stes3061 Жыл бұрын
Sony vs TCL ? Are you for real. Jen Smash that button
@sungjungro54447 ай бұрын
Soon is better I could see it right away. Has more details in pictures.
@jmudd5449 Жыл бұрын
I would love to own either one.
@44pakattack Жыл бұрын
I got a 75 sony x90k. Amazing tv. For those that don't know it's a google tv. I hooked up my logitech bri webcam and I can do video chat through google meet.
@jrnumex928610 ай бұрын
not knowing which as soon as they appeared, i picked the left one for better pic. a bigger tv, just move your stands apart a bit. prob solved.
@dashcammer43227 ай бұрын
I was seeing BF pricing of 6K on the Sony.
@need4speed290 Жыл бұрын
Any recommendations for 75inch TVs? Something on a budget but with a good spec.
@69Dartman Жыл бұрын
Maybe consider the TCL QM8, probably under 2k and should look great for most people.
@FooFighter33 Жыл бұрын
Please review the Samsung Q80C. I'm in the UK and thinking of ditching my LG 83C1 and UST projector for it.
@user-tj7vr7pg9u4 күн бұрын
After getting to the price comparisons, there is no way I will give up my Sony a 90 J for the TCL 98 inch TV no way picture quality is a premium to me. I have to have the best picture quality what good is having the biggest TV in the market, but the picture looks terrible, no thank you or I won’t say that the picture looks terrible but it’s not my standards
@R6ex Жыл бұрын
Nice. If only they're not so expensive .....
@bobsmoot845410 ай бұрын
Great review and honest appraisal of each tv
@user-dc9qr9ry9x Жыл бұрын
Yes please do a review on the Samsung 98 q80c I pre ordered it
@SkyTightGaming Жыл бұрын
You can also get the samsung one right now
@kuldipsingh366 Жыл бұрын
Please review the Q80C, 98" V these and Q90C.
@voyagerselva3446 Жыл бұрын
Both 98 inch however tcl screen looks big in size.
@richsmith3120 Жыл бұрын
Definitely not cheap! Huge units!
@nkamboh11 ай бұрын
The biggest question is how long will each last
@VidRaza Жыл бұрын
Sony+👍
@alistaire8576 Жыл бұрын
Not sure paying double for slight difference in picture is worth it for Sony...TCL got this via split decision. Sony, Samsung and LG needs to be more competitive with pricing and innovation...Again, great comparison guys!
@user-tj7vr7pg9u4 күн бұрын
As I’ve been saying for years, Sony is no joke. They do not play that TV is awesome but I’m scared of the LEDLCD technology on the TV because I would like for the dark scenes. Black levels to really look good that’s the only thing. I would never buy the TCL at all.
@ronmutnjakovic3437 Жыл бұрын
Easily worth twice the price in this comparison, however the qm8 might be better at the same price - next comparison please
@Schlock3000 Жыл бұрын
😂
@dazzaw46813 ай бұрын
Can get the Sony for $4200 now, getting mighty tempting...
@bighomie3500 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the review
@jorgmark3 ай бұрын
I would love to see a samsung q80c 98" review. I was looking on your channel but you don't have it 😢
@Anonymous-vh2ig Жыл бұрын
Two different price segment 😂
@turbokuo173410 ай бұрын
Can you do a 98" X90L vs 98" QM8
@andonygarduno Жыл бұрын
This is weird but I can totally see the choppiness as they pan the camera on the TCL. the motion, It feels like when you're playing video games and the amount of fps displayed drops and almost looks like skipping to me is that normal I keep playing 2:50 on the video when the ball is thrown and the camera whips around, it looks like half of the frames are missing on the tcl
@jessersaraga9313 Жыл бұрын
Clearly Sony contrast brightness color
@dojohansen1237 ай бұрын
The one thing that might make the Sony worth 2x the money is if it lasts a lot longer. But I don't have any reliable info to go by to provide any indication. Here in Europe TVs must last at least five years, but it really is ridiculous that consumer rights don't go much farther than that, especially since we know manufacturers deliberately design products *not* to last in order to maximize profits..! It would be a lot better for consumers in a narrow sense, but also for the environment and therefore everyone (= consumers?), if this whole planned obsolesence playbook got ripped to pieces. A 15 year mandated warranty might lead to higher prices, but also a much better functioning second hand market. My previous TV was a Samsung 46" bought in 2010 and replaced in 2022, although it was still working perfectly. I bought the biggest TV I could afford when upgrading, and plan to see my current Sony 85" serve for equally long, if it lasts.