9R vs Boost - Which one is right for you

Boost vs 9R is always a hot topic so this week Dan talks through the two engines and explains the benefits of each.
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[@bryonbisiaux9448]

Dan, As a 66 year young owner of both sleds and a guy who rides every day possible in the Sierra Nevada, I totally agree with your evaluation of these sleds. Both of my sleds are 155 Khaos 3" sleds and they are just so enjoyable. On those super steep long sidehills with deeper snow in open bowls , with a couple less trees, I love the Boost and am really confident in the sled. On the days I have to stay lower and in the trees because the avalanche conditions require it, I want to be on the 9R. I've had the 9R in very deep snow many times, and it's perfectly capable and fun, just not quite as much fun as the Boost in that situation. Overall, I've enjoyed both sleds far more than any I've ever owned, and I've owned many. I appreciate you trying to explain this to riders who don't actually own both. Both sleds require a bit of time and days in varied snow conditions to appreciate everything they offer any level of rider. They both will make you a better rider. As far as weight goes, riders need to get in better shape and drop 20 or so pounds, it's amazing how much lighter the sled becomes.

[@chestercastle4923]

both sleds are awesome. I wish that polaris would provide a base model that is cheaper than 16,000. they are begining to price themselves out of the market, or the snowmobile market is in an unsustainable place. Either way people cant afford 25,000 dollar snowmobiles, and as tight as things are getting to be our community built around snowmobiles will only suffer

[@jiggyquinn5635]

Doing a hard sell on the 9r at corporate. On the mountain empirical evidence and real world says it's over priced for the return. I do appreciate the channel and the how to ride videos. I realize how you feed your family so...good luck sir!

[@NextLevelRidingClinics]

The channel hasn’t broke even….not even close…but someday. I feed my family with a small retail shop and continuously kicking my own butt with my riding clinics as well as my summer sealcoat company. As far as pricing there isn’t an OEM in any industry that’s making things affordable…just is what it is I guess. Sleds are unreal expensive but I’m not in any way in control of that. Ride safe and thanks for watching 🙏

[@tyrelgranger8105]

Watching Muskoka freerider, the boost always out performed the 9R in every way possible

[@jimmybergholm7513]

Hi Dan, Jimmy from Sweden here. I must say you are a inspiration, doing videos, talking all about the most important among snowmobile life. A im a big fan and keep up the good work 👍

[@NextLevelRidingClinics]

Thanks for the kind words bud! Ride safe 👍

[@steveboisvert]

awesome comparison video Dan. very informative, love the step up over the trail at the beginning.

[@gregsouther7293]

100% agree with you about remembering the suck. The days that stick out are the ones that were just a couple times in a lifetime epic conditions or ones that have some misery involved.

[@markgeesaman8650]

Just gotta say I ride professionally and your videos have helped tremendously..... Thank you so much keep doing what your doing.. hope to come out to one of your clinics next season!! 🤙🏻

[@NextLevelRidingClinics]

Thanks for the kind words bud 👊👊👊

[@matthewgarry1864]

Love the channel dude! Just a few comments regarding the comparison. My current steed is a boosted 850. You are absolutely correct in the fact that a turbo is exhausting and need to be an anticipating rider. The horsepower and track speed is unreal-terrifying at times. With that being said, the feel (and the sound) is addicting. There's nothing like it. Having the opportunity to get onto a 9R and play around on that thing, it felt completely different. Tremendous low-end pull but after that, the throttle is pinned in the steep and deep. A bit more challenging yes, but the fun factor was still there. You almost have to put yourself in a different mindset. If you got the ching, have both. (I don't. )Different days require different tools. These are my thoughts and feelings about the video. Probably reiterating what Dan said, but thought I'd share. Keep pumping out the videos Dan. Always enjoy getting that notification. And yes, I'm a proud subscriber. 👏 👍🤘🤙

[@jlo13800]

How about an 1800ropposed piston made from 2 900R engines! Like this cummins OP ACE 2 stroke mart.cummins.com/imagelibrary/data/assetfiles/0058689.pdf

[@jbr555s]

What the hell is a two-stroke diesel!? That looks insane. What is it used in?

[@brpmd]

Great video and agree. Should have both and I am lucky to be one of those guys. 9r pro 165 and 155 khaos boost… 2 great tools in the box, totally different sleds but both have their own niche.

[@ericbunkers8147]

Thanks Dan, this is gold. 20 years ago, this type of info was not out there and easily consumed. Thanks for all you and your team do, it's appreaciated, even from yahoo flatlanders from MN.

[@JasonCaville]

Awesome video, Dan 👏👏 Looks like you had a lot of fun making it!

[@motorizedjunk6666]

nice road gap dan, i have been eyeing that one out all year

[@willmallmes4138]

Love the vids! I am just really getting into sledding and your videos have helped me develop this year as a rider immensely! I had a really tough time with deciding on a snow check. I am currently on a 14 M8 sno pro and was debating between the boost and 9R. As my arms already burn most days after riding and my confidence isn’t there for the boost I decided the 9R is the right sled for me! Keep up with the great media, always love the channel

[@NextLevelRidingClinics]

You will absolutely love the 9r! It’s the best of both worlds for sure and will elevate your riding! Thanks for watching 🙌

[@Noob_Crew_Sledders]

850. Cause its all I can afford. 20k for a n/a sled otd. Shoutout to sled manufacturers for pricing families out of sledding

[@NextLevelRidingClinics]

Stay tuned for a video about the few performance mods we make to an 850 that make it every bit of a 9r when it comes to performance!! I hear ya on the overall sled prices….things are getting more and more specialized which is causing even greater increases to the MSRP. Who knows where it’s headed 🤷‍♂️

[@i2rtw]

There are days that I think I want a boost, most that I understand that a 9R would be a significant step up, and always that I realize that I got a great deal on the 850 pro 165 slash I have now!

[@NextLevelRidingClinics]

At the end of the day….a slightly built up or even really good running 850 is so close to a 9R’s performance that most people wouldn’t notice. Stay tuned for a video about 850’s!! Thanks for watching 👍

[@i2rtw]

@@NextLevelRidingClinics now to just get it back from the shop for the recalls…

[@gclarke64]

Always great content. Thanks again

[@tyrelgranger8105]

Would be awesome if polaris can get us the snow checks our before the next snow check. Also clutches that stay together

[@TimberTramp]

Plus the rotating mass on a boost.

[@chrisroberts908]

Good info. Thanks buddy,

[@kev244]

I wanna hit those climbs with you Dan ! We have a 9R 165 with MBRP can and I love it but I also have an 850 with boondocker high boost kit on 12 lbs of boost and Av-gas tune the turbo sled leaves blood blisters on my hands 😂 but both are so fun .

[@jlo13800]

Nice what HP is she making. Imagine a turbo 1800R opposed piston 2 stroke made like this cummins OP ACE 2 stroke mart.cummins.com/imagelibrary/data/assetfiles/0058689.pdf

[@Just3adventures]

Subscribed! You make great videos!

[@Just3adventures]

Have you got to try a 9r 146?

[@tinabisiaux3803]

I am 160+ or - pounds. I really think for most snow conditions, a 165 is unnecessary. I'd also like to say that they are really 2 completely different sleds. I own both in a 155 Khaos config., and I wouldn't buy anything else. The 9R is designed for the situations where absolute throttle response and low end torque is required(steep, technical tree riding with less than 2.5 feet of snow) The Boost is for your more than 2.75Ft. days, and really that's your thought process. I couldn't live without either. These are the 2 best sleds on the market today, maybe arguably, but I won't even discuss it with my son who is a devoted Doo Turbo R enthusiast. It's amazing to me at 65 that the old man can still hang, even if my son is the best rider I've ever personally been riding with. I think that says volumes for what Polaris has done. I love these sleds. Bryon

[@TimberTramp]

Ultralight ported/head 9r for me! I mean as light as I can go! Also you should try and do a turbo 650 …. I’m flying that flag! I think it would be awesome!

[@jeffreywilson2078]

Thanks Dan, great comparison. I’m going to stick with my Boost as I can use it in all conditions. I noticed that on your boost you were revving up to 8800 RPMs sometimes. I know normally we don’t want to go above 8250. I know it makes a difference if you’re going straight up pulling in deep powder, but why are you letting your sled rev so high? Thank you! Love your videos!

[@boblewis4664]

As for me, I have had NA sleds all my life, got a boost this year, WOW, I won’t be going back to a NA.

[@kentkeele7051]

Subscribed 🤟🤟🤟

[@isakabelsen1893]

The 9r rmk

[@TimberTramp]

Can we get a video on the bikeman boost?

[@JulianJohanson]

We’ll I have a 155 Khaos boost now and ordered a 9r so I’m covered ! Lol

[@RJ-wy6cx]

The best sleds on the market

[@yearight259]

Where is your home base? Do you have a class? You’re a great rider and I would love to learn some stuff from you.

[@NextLevelRidingClinics]

Thanks for the kind words! We do have clinics based out of Alpine Wy. Unfortunately they are booked for the season. One of the biggest reasons for this Chanel was to help riders who weren’t able to attend because of our limited schedule. Thanks again and keep practicing 🙌🙌🙌

[@yearight259]

@@NextLevelRidingClinics I get it. And honestly they do help so much. I just wish I would see you on a ski doo 😆 but you’re a great rider and teacher. I’ll keep watching. Thank you for your time spent.

[@robgoffroad]

The last new sled I bought was a 2005 M7 153 for $8300. Now the sled I want, a new Khaos Slash 850 is like $18,000. Gack.

[@Smoot307]

Great video, but I can’t drop that kind of money on either of them, haha.

[@SWS509]

Subscribed. Been watching for years. I’m just trying to get to 1k haha!

[@NextLevelRidingClinics]

Awesome pal thank you! 🙏

[@Inspector694]

How’s reliability between the two?

[@IdahoMthman]

Great information. Thanks Dan! One question I always have ridden Carl's revalves. But this season I went with a fox setup. I'm still experimenting with my setup right now from back to front I have settings are three two and one. Looking for any advice on what seems to work the best

[@NextLevelRidingClinics]

Are you running air shocks or coils? Is this on a Polaris sled? What is your riding weight. What track length? Boosted or N/A? There are a ton of set up questions to make a sled right for you. What I would tell you is to make sure you document each change you make so you always have a baseline to go back to while making adjustments.

[@IdahoMthman]

@@NextLevelRidingClinics hi thank you so much for replying. 2023 r9 165 Na coil over fox shocks. My riding weight is 170ish. I'm 5' 5" built a lot like dan

[@mikeysrxharris]

Not mountain sleds but what do you think of the vr1 boost vs assault boost I have both but haven’t been on any assaults yet do too snow lack of

[@specforged5651]

8750 on the Boost!? Holy shit!

[@jacobbabb7939]

I am very curious what bikeman exhaust your running. I’ve got my 165 khaos boost ordered and i’m already stockpiling parts. Is the exhaust the race exhaust or the stainless muffler?

[@NextLevelRidingClinics]

Howdy, It’s the stainless muffler on the boost and the munchie muffler on the 9r. Thanks and look for a channel video coming up about all my mod sleds like we do each season 🙌🙌🙌

[@cheeseymccheese7249]

8750 rpm?? Dang is that normal?

[@campstrat]

That's what I was thinking!

[@ZtripleZ1]

No, but when you don't care about your sled after 1 year, you'll run the crap out of it and unload it on some poor sucker right before it blows up.

[@wesarmey1348]

76 weights will help fix that issue

[@Freneticburn]

his sleds are modified

[@ZtripleZ1]

@@wesarmey1348 I put 80s in mine and have it down to 8375

[@micahgitlewski-id6vj]

What's the difference between pro rmk or rmk khaos?

[@chestercastle4923]

a khaos has steeper rails on the rear skid and a longer front shock. Gives you a lighter front end feeling so you can play easier. However they will wheelie out on you if you are in technical terrain or sidehilling.

[@vincelombardi2669]

@@chestercastle4923 to add to this in 2024 pro and khaos are almost virtually the same. The only difference now is shock length, spring weight and limiting strap. Basically hardly going to be noticeable to the normal person

[@RogueTrucker12]

So common sense would say for a novice rider a naturally aspirated 850 would be adequate?

[@NextLevelRidingClinics]

An 850 is an incredible sled!!! 👍

[@collunellis5563]

Bro, I’m on my third year into riding (still novice myself), and even the older 800’s are still impressive! An 850 is still an INCREDIBLE sled! I’ve jumped onto both a 9R and a 850 Turbo for just a couple miles each. They are impressive, but can still be a bit intimidating for me.

[@JamesDreiske]

i ride a naturally aspirated 850 kahos 155 in Alaska and it will take me just about anywhere i want to go unless it is to steep to keep the front end down! and the shocks are so adjustable that you can significantly change the way you want to ride without any tools!

[@mikegatherall3774]

Tired of watching numerous 850s pros and summits zipping down a trail and hitting mellow hills …most would be fine on a 500 fan for the riding they do …reality is that majority of riders are not even close to riding the new sleds to their capability but want the sled that the KZbinrs ride. …imagination is a wonderful thing for the oems selling $25K - $30k sleds

[@skipheald7300]

both gonna cost ya approx $50k

[@gcow8328]

Where the hell you buying your sleds? If you're paying that kinda of cash I've got a couple sleds I'll sell ya, half price even

[@codynelson8841]

@@gcow8328 who’s buying 25k sleds damn

[@MrWookie1981]

@@codynelson8841 just built one on their site. $23.4K before freight, pdi and taxes. So $25k is light.

[@jeffmacdonald9386]

Where the hell are u guys livin cuz in Canada a boost or 9R is 30k when it’s in the back of your truck

[@skipheald7300]

just checked a 9r 22,638 and can buy boost all day long here in maine for 23k

[@13dirtnasty]

If Adderall was a person

[@B.C.EpicExplorer]

165 that things a limo lol 155 boost all day anything else is just lacking power 25lbs extra is nothing some people have 25lbs on their gut and another 25 on the tunnel lol

[@lbeaulac67]

Either of them is right not for 25 grand plus Canadian. Rode both of them not that impressive for the price.

[@NextLevelRidingClinics]

Although I appreciate your opinion on Polaris sleds, what are you comparing them to that’s so much more affordable?

[@lbeaulac67]

I own a 2018 axys 800 163 since new. Wasn’t blown away by the new ones. Especially after the boost blew 2 plugs while I was demoing. The 9r was descent. Either were set up for my style. The bars were way too tall made it tough. I use a way shorter bar setup. Both sleds would’ve felt way better with my setup.

[@let_it_ride9216]

9r can’t hold a candle to a boost