A Brief History of South Africa, with Dave Steward | Big Think

[@StreetArtist360]

"Until lions tell their tale, the story of the hunt will always glorify the hunter." Chinua Achebe

[@StreetArtist360]

I see.

[@PreachingChief]

History is written by the victors, but in this case the loser is telling his side...

[@bibulousape]

***** I think he was making reference to human hunters hunting lions... I'm under the impression that the indigenous people of South Africa are often poetically referred to as lions, so Phumlani Mbabela's way of saying it makes perfect sense.

[@1Nate987]

except how was he glorifying what the white's did to the blacks?

[@superflyrico]

Phumlani Mbabela SPOT ON!

[@ffreemantle]

One of the best summaries I have come across - brilliant!

[@malafunkshun8086]

"Never put sociologists in charge of countries because they will do social engineering." Interesting 🤔

[@ntatemohlomi2884]

Yes very interesting, or lawyers, historians, indeed never put any smart arses in charge of countries for that matter.

[@presley881]

Sounds like libtard democrats.

[@toshomni9478]

​@Mrs.Nickadeemus All these things you are talking about were invented or perfected by European colonialists. It has nothing to do with something as silly as skin color.

[@waydiemadbommer5006]

Hmm ok

[@waydiemadbommer5006]

@@ntatemohlomi2884 hmm ok

[@skywalkerneoblade]

South African history is so intricate and complicating. I'm a 28 year old south african and i'm still trying to understand.

[@nokukhanyantanzi2196]

Westley Byrne dude😢

[@4abrownafrica939]

The Burn Ain't nothing intricate or complicated about it! Africans want their fucking land back and whites leave! I don't see the fucking problem! Africa for Africans! Africans First!

[@themac9677]

4ABLACKAFRICA , I agree 100%. Whites should be able to live in the continent. They should be drafted into the AU just like Europeans draft other races to fight for their countries. Africans need to do the same

[@spudwesth]

But the Whites created South Africa from nothing.

[@hisbeautifultruth5931]

Spud Westhaver -- At whose request?

[@bleargh22]

Fantastic to see and hear an expert just tell the whole story without a script or any silly animations (though I do like silly animations sometimes)!

[@basilking4869]

😂😂😂

[@LaughingMan44]

Why not mention that the English lost the first Boer War? And that during the second they used scorched earth policies and interred 1000s of woman and children (both native and white) into concentration camps, in which thousands died from starvation and disease? This isn't just a white take on South African History, but an English take on South African history.

[@martinnel1347]

I agree

[@tcxbeast]

+Mud Hut well he did do it in only 20 min

[@1Nate987]

there r only so many stories in 20mins. Go doa more in-depth history if u want

[@camillaoates1507]

Get your facts straight bc they weren’t ‘concentration camps’

[@WHKCCP]

Camillia, right you are, 'death camps' would be more accurate.

[@oddballomega]

Excellent, interesting video. History is an excellent tool for understanding where we are today and how things can change going forward.

[@OrthobroSA]

This was very clear, nice and clean perspective of the past. Hope South Africans could listen to this.

[@AvocadoDesperado_]

I don't know all the facts but I really enjoyed listening to him. He really put a lot of things in perspective for me.

[@sd4dfg2]

That was very informative, and yet I felt anxious through the whole thing, wondering what his biases were and if he was trying to sell me a filtered history/story.

[@Flippyboy]

I felt a bit too, but I think he gave an amazingly good framework for people who want to go deeper into the subject.

[@iamJahwill]

You got that right. Filtered? He just ignored the slaughter and slavery, and robbery committed against indigenous millions by his forbears.Those who took the diamonds, gold, uranium, molybdenum are still selling it and getting richer today. And none of their names are African, they are white dutchmen/europeons who 'colonized. Like the europeons who 'colonized the vast empty, unused and uninhabited americas Well, only inhabited by what they considered "inferior" species.I feel shame for what even my ancestors allowed to happen even though they took our own relatives as slaves(indentured).

[@aromardu]

Everyone has bias, if this was a black politician or historian, we'd get some bias towards "his" group as well. Get over yourself.

[@92Kandee]

@@aromardu true but he downplayed a lot of things, without really calling it what it really is/was - RACISM. You get over yourself, as well!

[@andrewdutoit9571]

@@iamJahwill In your opinion how many millions of Blacks where slaughtered and enslaved by the Whites?

[@heaty007]

Wow. Great video. I never really went deep into the dynamics here but this gentleman really put the SA story to perspective.

[@gssrustenburg]

Great history lesson. Much more complex than most thought.

[@LetsViewTheWorld]

Only just found this channel, so many things I wanna watch!! Love it all! And this clip is no exception! Firstly thanks to Big Think! I'm just starting an online TV channel and your passion and commitment to this channel is really inspirational and motivational!! Secondly thanks to Dave! As a 35 yr old South African living abroad, you have given me bits of condensed history I've been craving to know !

[@tyskbulle]

I very mutch like these kinds of talks that gives you a mutch broader understanding of social problems. A good thing about knowing your history.

[@danieb52]

I agree. There is too much of history that is simplified and whitewashed, that one fails to recognize a much broader picture of the world and the reasons for its social problems.

[@adamthornton7880]

More long videos like this, please.

[@sonofsoweto]

Adam Thornton huh

[@stuartpringle913]

Adam Thornton .......long? Lol. Where’s the rest!!

[@PureWater-w7c]

I saw a vast crowd, too great to count, from every nation and tribe and people and language, standing in front of the throne and before the Lamb… And they were shouting with a great roar, “Salvation comes from our God who sits on the throne and from the Lamb!”

[@brc6137]

Who's watched the film 'Zulu' that's about the British taking over South Africa it's amazing film.

[@SN-mz6gl]

Mxim

[@RDYS]

Very interesting. The implications and overtones for other countries are important. I believe every American World History class should watch this video.

[@PreachingChief]

Great summary of the history of SA! Watch it and learn something!

[@JadeChaos]

This was fantastic

[@kieraskorpos5369]

this video has opened up my eyes. Honestly, we may be in 2020 and the types of laws may not be enforced any more and no governments have these laws but the funny thing is this still happens every day just always in a different form.

[@frenchy_y]

He didn't mention the collapse of the USSR in 1990, which was pivotal to the decision by the NP to go ahead with the transformation. He also didn't mention the failure of CODESA1, which was in part due to the ANC's refusal to accept a federal government system, that would largely have prevented an unrealistic majority of a corrupt government .

[@paulamarsh1]

The Soviets did initially try to woo the Nationalist Party but this was against their non-communist (NP) philosophy and so the Soviets went over to ANC side and thus with Soviet backing - and financial support- the ANC was able to have political clout...

[@marcopieterse]

This is why I love Big Think. Its where people can look at the facts of things without any preconceived delusion and have an intellectual debate about it. He may not have covered the whole story but what he said is however true and cannot be denied no matter which side of the argument your on. Unfortunately it's a truth that is ignored by the ANC's government and it's supporters.

[@AndrewJohnson-xc8hf]

Do more history of countries. This is very interesting.

[@southafrica2036]

would've appreciated one that dated back pre-colonialism

[@chica476]

Show me the historical record of this. As far as we know, there was no written language with the Bantu or the San peoples. Seems kind of hard to have a complete historical record, when the Blacks and Capps don't have a written language to begin with.

[@gamercai]

South Africa I really would too. I'm yet to find any sources on the topic.

[@themac9677]

chica476 just because they didn't have a written language doesn't mean they did not have a culture and history on the continent. Africans have been on the continent for thousands of years. I hope you're not suggesting that the people have no history

[@karlschmidt1735]

South Africa didn't exist before then...

[@JaredSilver1988]

You had no written language to document

[@GeluTavi]

Great history lesson. Really enjoyed something that.. funnily enough.. isn't taught in British schools..

[@missizaza1556]

What an insightful 20 minutes, thank you.

[@stuartpringle913]

Fh Clappen ...he was born in Nairobi in 1945 you ignorant judgemental fool. And....What is a ‘Brit’? Is that some kind of justifiable negation based on historical perceptions? Stop hating and judging.

[@Shadowgunner785]

Hendrik Verwoerd: oh we can have each group separated to created their own societies. We'll put the whites here, the zulus here, the xhosas here, and the Coloured here. This will work out perfectly Random aide: uhh sir, it looks like you gave the whites 89% of the land. Verwoerd: hmmm......... I don't see a problem here. Right, let's implement this plan. And thus apartheid was born. (at least that's what I got from what this guy was saying)

[@SuperGreatSphinx]

South Africa, officially the Republic of South Africa (RSA), is the southernmost country in Africa. It is bounded to the south by 2,798 kilometres (1,739 mi) of coastline of Southern Africa stretching along the South Atlantic and Indian Oceans; to the north by the neighbouring countries of Namibia, Botswana, and Zimbabwe; and to the east and northeast by Mozambique and Swaziland (Eswatini); and it surrounds the kingdom of Lesotho. South Africa is the largest country in Southern Africa and the 25th-largest country in the world by land area and, with close to 56 million people, is the world's 24th-most populous nation. It is the southernmost country on the mainland of the Old World or the Eastern Hemisphere. About 80 percent of South Africans are of Sub-Saharan African ancestry, divided among a variety of ethnic groups speaking different African languages, nine of which have official status. The remaining population consists of Africa's largest communities of European (White), Asian (Indian), and multiracial (Coloured) ancestry. South Africa is a multi-ethnic society encompassing a wide variety of cultures, languages, and religions. Its pluralistic makeup is reflected in the constitution's recognition of 11 official languages, which is the fourth highest number in the world. Two of these languages are of European origin: Afrikaans developed from Dutch and serves as the first language of most coloured and white South Africans; English reflects the legacy of British colonialism, and is commonly used in public and commercial life, though it is fourth-ranked as a spoken first language. The country is one of the few in Africa never to have had a coup d'état, and regular elections have been held for almost a century. However, the vast majority of black South Africans were not enfranchised until 1994. During the 20th century, the black majority sought to recover its rights from the dominant white minority, with this struggle playing a large role in the country's recent history and politics. The National Party imposed apartheid in 1948, institutionalising previous racial segregation. After a long and sometimes violent struggle by the African National Congress and other anti-apartheid activists both inside and outside the country, the repeal of discriminatory laws began in 1990. Since 1994, all ethnic and linguistic groups have held political representation in the country's democracy, which comprises a parliamentary republic and nine provinces. South Africa is often referred to as the "rainbow nation" to describe the country's multicultural diversity, especially in the wake of apartheid. The World Bank classifies South Africa as an upper-middle-income economy, and a newly industrialised country. Its economy is the second-largest in Africa, and the 34th-largest in the world. In terms of purchasing power parity, South Africa has the seventh-highest per capita income in Africa. However, poverty and inequality remain widespread, with about a quarter of the population unemployed and living on less than US$1.25 a day. Nevertheless, South Africa has been identified as a middle power in international affairs, and maintains significant regional influence.

[@1254popoful]

Anyone else impressed with his pronunciation of xhosa!?

[@pieteri.duplessis]

I think this was a very good summery, thanks.

[@coreyoldknow272]

A very educational and interesting film . Very pleasant and informative presenter. Thanks for the uploaded video

[@CobusAlberts]

actually a really good video (as a South African). And I've had way more boring lecturers, so it he didnt bother me at all! :)

[@ephraimmotho887]

I enjoyed this account. It was sober. I would love to delve into more detail

[@andrekarelse2306]

Never knew big think would have chosen my crazy beautiful country

[@LANBobYonson]

I need a brief history of South America. But this is also something I didn't know much about. Good video.

[@andreborges3849]

You do realise that unlike South Africa, South America is not a country!

[@orangefield100]

Very illuminating. Thanks

[@dondacurator]

I LOVED THIS ,,

[@genevievedavis7135]

So well spoken. A privilege and a pleasure to listen to such a well informed, intelligent, man.

[@truth-Hurts375]

Very good video!!

[@aladjiibrahim6873]

South African history is thousands of years old. How Europeans can be so Idealistic thinking the begining of everything was starts with them is absolutely mind boggling. 🥴

[@paul_321]

Aren’t you muslim?

[@henrymiller3663]

So tell us all the many interesthing things that happened in those thousands of years? Lolol

[@BretLaRoche]

My side-eye vision was on the whole time. Always a minefield. He really struggled to keep the whole apartheid thing above the fray, using clean words of constitutionalism and social engineering, whereas that ish was down and dirty. More than a hovering govt. policy, a lot of ordinary people in their heart-of-hearts believed in racial superiority. This is why apartheid was so intractible, and why so much tension remains in SA. I give it another 20yrs for things to normalize, and when it does, it'll be one of the best places on Earth to live and die in.

[@Vilakazi]

I'd say another 60.

[@LaughingMan44]

BretLaRoche South Africa was just as a police state for whites, if you said anything against the government or questioned apartheid openly you'd be in trouble. South Africa is going down the drain because everyone blames the past while ignoring those in power at present.

[@LaughingMan44]

***** That's an interesting point of view, but I just don't see it.That might have been the point in theory, but in practice it was used for oppression and discrimination.

[@laiq4952]

+Mud Hut the past should not just be forgotten just because the system ended. Im not saying that those who were oppressed should be angry but it is very demeaning when people suggest that others just forget their past - which was entirely shit.

[@Vilakazi]

Laiq Sayed What are you doing up so early?

[@AA-ez9cn]

someday we will be able to hear similar analysis of the American empire's pretexts for its wars without people getting fired up and defensive about it. you know, once it's too late to do anything about it.

[@spudwesth]

The Chinese will own America.

[@buzzfeedright4154]

Aman Jain America has avoided many of the greatest challenges that developed countries are coming to face within the coming decades. Low birth rates and high inflation.

[@Wimpymind]

Characterising the cold war as russian proxy warfare without mention of the US doing the exact same thing, more often and with more success, puts the rest of this otherwise interesting video in a rather untrustworthy light.

[@okie6443]

I think your talking about history of South Africa and Africa as a whole way after these wars the Cold War officially started in 1945 but could be considered of starting in 1920s after the Russian revolution and the Russian civil war

[@86samsky]

really enjoyed this vid also loved the fact the comments are 50%hate and 50% and the one antisemitic commenter who has managed to turn this from a africa thing to a jewish thing

[@malafunkshun8086]

This is an informative history of South Africa, although there's quite an emphasis here on the Apartheid period and the Cold War.

[@bajorjor1]

that is the era he lived in.

[@gysgijsbers4202]

That's the era that got South Africa into the world media spotlight, not unlike Israel today. Especially from the liberal 1960's onwards, South Africa was a more conservative society.

[@laiq4952]

I find it highly annoying that people are getting annoyed with another part of our countries story. There isnt just one side of the story.

[@okie6443]

True true

[@cat_mac271]

I wouldn’t frame Botha as such a benign reformist though. The dismantling of “petty” apartheid always seemed to be a largely cosmetic revision to appease the international community in opinion. However, I was born post-1994, so my sense of history is vastly different to Steward.

[@thulanintisana6977]

A brief romanticized white history of South Africa

[@dmoney9285]

Thulani Ntisana ... Looool yes, and this made me laugh out loud 😂

[@zonlom1593]

Love this. Wish more South-Africans do research on what the history was.

[@slicusdadon]

Zon Lom Yes we do. And it ain't what that man said. Looks like you need to read history.

[@helenrowley1886]

He is British! His accent is British! and he missed out vast swathes of historical information, yes he has left us with a thirst for information. He won't say anything bad about the British. It was a Brit who first introduced apartheid in SA. not a Dutch farmer.

[@toade1583]

@@helenrowley1886 He's correct, you don't like it because you're one of those Afrikaners who think the Afrikaner led white only government (most British left after independence, where they then handed power over to Afrikaners) somehow wasn't responsible for Apartheid a policy they created is stupid.

[@ciarancube6018]

we know our history very well. we dont need to hear it from a white person

[@paulamarsh1]

​@@helenrowley1886 actually not British at all if you know your accents. He speaks with an educated South African English accent.

[@libertyborn5906]

Saying that Apartheid is "straightforward racial domination" is utter, gross dishonesty. It had no racial quality to it whatsoever but rather was seeking to reestablish and affirm their own society, which they had built by their own hand, for they themselves, and not subject to racial and cultural conflict. They build the society, why should they not enjoy it? Apartheid had nothing whatsoever to do with the "separate but equal" in the south, and it is a false and dishonest equivalence. What we have later is the ANC wanting to "unscramble this omelette", to turn South Africa into a country and society controlled by blacks, when they had nothing whatsoever to do with its creation and rise. In fact the Omelette was (and is) being so forcibly "unscrambled" that it is creating social and economic collapse. The narrator, Dave Steward, rejects social engineering when done by others for stability, but then goes on to embrace social engineering when by others, to suit his views, even turning a blind eye to murder, rape, mayhem and starvation. You only have to look at the negative changes to South Africa since De Klerk's changes, As a result of the Marxist social engineering policies by the South African government circa 2008, forcing white farm owners to sell to the government which turned large white-run farms into many small black-run farms, and South Africa became a food-importer, rather than a exporter, despite its enormous agricultural potential.

[@glynnera]

Quite right. Steward's job is as an apologist for a person who sold his culture down the river, must be held responsible for the current slaughter on the farms, and who will ultimately be remembered for precipitating the collapse of a unique first world country at the bottom of Africa.

[@jamesunderwood9100]

Liberty Born amen!!!! One thing you see all the time, give some a pile of bricks and they will build a city!!! give others a city and they will make it a pile of bricks!!!! So sorry for what South Africa was it will become a complete hell hole in the next 10 years!!!

[@playboicartiismydad4842]

This is an incredibly stupid statement as race based laws were everywhere if it had no racial quality at all then why were businesses, schools, shops, hospitals even benches segregated. Why did black people have their own education system and where forced to live in certain areas. It was literally built on racism as said by the founders of apartheid

[@jamesunderwood9100]

yummyNikNak it wasn’t created to to a multicultural country, white were and are the minority , blacks were in the same area for centuries and did nothing with the land or resources, whites (Europeans) arrived developed, built and created an awesome country with a strong economy, now the blacks( Africans) will have total control of SA in about 5-10 years, there WILL BE FAMINE in about 7-8 years, the Chinese will step in and take control (behind the scenes of course) and take 60-70 percent of the country’s wealth leave the 30-40 percent to the ruling black “elites” and all else will survive 2 inches above the poverty line!!! Prime example Rhodesia I mean Zimbabwe , whites kicked out or murdered !!! 5 years later AFTER famine they’re “invited back to farm again!!!! Be careful!!! You will wind up getting exactly what you want, only problem is understanding what exactly your going to get!!!

[@mohammadshabih5293]

@@jamesunderwood9100 Europeans came and took over land that didn't belong to them. Europeans came and massacred thousands of Africans, and were one of the causes of the Mfecane. Europeans came and enslaved the Africans, and when slavery was abolished, they had to increase taxes on Africans so they have to go work in the mines or somewhere else with unhygenic conditions and extremely low wages.

[@bboyrsa7594]

it looked like for a moment after he made the "breaking eggs" joke that he maybe expected an applause... lol

[@bushamajola2201]

The defeat of Cetshwayo involved Americans, Deutsches, British, Slaves, and locals such as Sothoes

[@solutions36512]

Very good overview. At last a sober explanation from the side of the white minority. Apparently whites are split like two tribes, the Afrikaans who are former Dutch settlers and the other group who are former British colonisers. Wow... who knew!!

[@M3l_0N666]

Ive heard of Afrikaners being so stubborn they refuse to even speak English at all.

[@EagleSlightlyBetter]

Excellent video. Should probably be titled, "A Brief White History of South Africa," though. The lens could use a bit of disclosure.

[@arnoldhuman2856]

The Black ruled South africa at the moment is many times more disrespectful against the minorities. And many times less selfreflecting.

[@stuartpringle913]

His wording is political and obviously very diplomatic. He is of course plastering over his parties atrocities and how seriously vile it was but maybe this is how he saw it ? It’s just one perception from one viewpoint but the history isn’t bad listen and he is skimming!. He is very very nice about it, like a talking to a GCSE student. Remember it’s not just white people who can and are racist and not just white people with power who rape and pillage....never forget that, hate breeds hate. The past can be indefensible but it’s a evolving learning game and evolutionary thinking is forever the future and always constructed by past. Love and understand. South African history is fascinating.

[@goodafy]

Blacks traditionally don't stay in townships, they stay in villages. In order to feed the South African European owned mines with black cheap labour, whites artificially create poverty in black communities and using legislation & govt policies, 3 things were done; 1. Poll tax, labour tax were introduced & must be paid in currency, to get this currency, you must work in mines. 2. Land act 1913; meaning every good productive land in SA must owned by whites, blacks stand back 3. Resettlement policy: means any black communities or persons still on good productive land be uprooted by force and taken to poverty as tenants in Umlazi, Soweto, Tembisa township to become cheap labourer for whites owned mines & factories.(Bloemfontein, sapphire town) This is a 100 years systematic creation of severe poverty in black south African communities Someone said Apartheid was all about white capital expansion, I understand now with a little addition expansion using African resources and hard labour. But you can expand without running someone else down Yes you can.

[@darsiruysenaar9523]

He should have gone back to the 1600’s well before all the history which followed decades later. What he says is so, but the reasons it cam3 about are not adequately introduced. When the boers came into South Africa in the 1600’s Sa was an empty land never forget that

[@senateurjuanito7013]

blablabla yes it is here and australia, and the united states too. Say what you want we know our history and throughout the African territory we find traces of our ancestors from north to south from east to west. When we want to steal a land that does not belong to you we say we found nobody. But if you believe home home or what and in addition you are percussive. And before your boers there, the Portuguese went by the cape to trade with whom? With spirits? Because it must be said that the Portuguese were the first to land on the Cape of Africa. So stop your colon lie

[@lillipad3503]

no it was not. it was home to the khoi

[@toade1583]

No it wasn't, there were tons of people, yes millions died from the Mfecane, but still there were still millions of people living in the region

[@jam5533]

Might want to back up your claim on the land being empty.

[@Dalf80s]

​@@lillipad3503the koi was here first but in very small numbers spread wide over the country

[@JoeyChalhoub]

This guy completely disregarded the imporatance of reform groups. If it was't for the ANC, Congress Alliance, SAIC, PAC, and the spear of the nation, South Africa might still very well be under apartheid.

[@astrinpetersen4244]

Early bird gets the worm but the 2nd mouse gets the cheese.

[@matthewmann8969]

The Khois And Sans had some intriguing and interesting dealings

[@OTTO149x]

Q: Why did the white man go to the moon? A: He heard the Indians had some land there... (Native comedian who took the mike at a jam up in Whitehorse...)

[@zithobilemlungwana2018]

Why is he choosing to ignore the damage done by the first dutch settlers in the country

[@chesterdonnelly1212]

He starts by explaining the forming of the country of South Africa. It was formed by the British combining Transvaal, Free State, Cape and Natal. From the British point of view, the Boers were just another nation to be conquered, like the Zulus.

[@louisjordaan8006]

Damage is done by the ANC is worse!

[@barneyblimp1498]

trying to unscramble those omelette metaphors

[@dewaldtfourie4241]

South Africa sits with too many monuments and too many small shops. South Africa have many shops that cost the public money, but it isn't making any money for the public in large scale. South Africa depends on the buildings they already have and they use the same methods over and over again and it is not working and they can't employ everyone. The only way for South Africa to get out of trouble is to build a hospital and a consulting buildings next to each other in open fields with 1000's of parking. This will ensure everyone have jobs. Health ,wealth happiness. No crime, no murder, better control, disease control better solutions etc. It is that EASY.

[@royalandonyx]

Can somebody explain what he means by this?: "The ANC realized that there would not be a revolutionary outcome... and it's only when parties accept that there will not be an armed outcome that there can be genuine negotiations."

[@paulamarsh1]

I understand that he means when both parties realise that neither one will go to war, then it means they can both sit down and talk.

[@stephanw1034]

We all know this guy had an illegal copy of Rodriguez

[@joshualifetree5398]

They should have split South Africa into independent countries.

[@colbkam8268]

Anyone else wants an omelette right now?

[@Republican1795]

Steward is right concerning the obvious fact that South Africa is an artificial entity as it was created by the British during the early 20th century after conquering numerous local groups and was done so for the main purpose of securing the gold and diamonds found mainly within the old Boer Republics that the British had conquered. But it is important to point out that the Boers are not Afrikaners - as the Afrikaners were a political regime that was composed mostly from the Cape Dutch population that the Boers had trekked away from during the 1700s - and that the driving force of the National Party was not the restoration of the Boers Republics as they were expressly OPPOSED to it as they wanted to turn all of South Africa into a nominal and false republic in order to prevent the Boers from reclaiming their old Boer Republics and thereby scuppering the British and Afrikaner control over the resource and mineral rich areas of the new macro State of South Africa. Prime Minister D F Malan ( a Cape Dutch of Huguenot origin ) did not even initially want to turn South Africa into a Republic and worked to destroy the Boer groups that were calling for the restoration of the Boer Republics. I am still astounded how too many people do not look at this situation closely enough to discover that the Boers were and are still often an impoverished and disenfranchised people who fell under the sway of the more affluent and politically connected Cape Dutch controlled Afrikaner political regime that rose to power over the artificial state of South Africa. When the impoverished Boers were chased off of their farms by the British during the aftermath of the second Anglo-Boer War: they began to migrate to the cities in big numbers in order to find employment. When they arrived at these cities they often encountered the Cape Dutch controlled Afrikaners ( who migrated to the large cities within the Boer Republics during the late 19th century during the gold rush ) who were in the process of establishing themselves and taking control of the major institutions. This led to the Afrikaner Colonization of the Boer Nation. As these Afrikaners would soon propagandize the Boers' children who were now enrolled in Afrikaner controlled schools to now see themselves as part of the Afrikaner political class despite the Boer segment remaining at the bottom never rising much higher than the working class. The Boers have had to struggle against Afrikaner domination and have been subjugated by the Afrikaners. The Boers were not even largely literate until the Cape Dutch controlled Afrikaners began to impose their Afrikaans onto the population. This led to further Afrikaner control over the Boers as newspapers and magazines were now in the standardized dialect of Afrikaans that the Afrikaners created and not in the dialect of the Boers. When you take away or replace a peoples' language or dialect you take away their ability to communicate authentically in their own voice. The language promoted reflected the views of the Cape Dutch controlled Afrikaners and not the conquered Boers who were not able to develop their dialect into a literary form as this process was scuppered or outmaneuvered by the Cape Dutch originators of the standardization process. The Boer's dialect of what is often referred to as Boeraans ( historically known as Boeretaal ) would have to be promoted more in order to get a clearer understanding of the actual Boer perspective on matters otherwise one is only getting the crafted view of the Afrikaner. The sad reality is that the Boers have been and often still are too impoverished too truly get their own dialect turned into a large scale literary from that can rival the ubiquitous Afrikaans that was promoted by the Afrikaner establishment and government.

[@macduggles]

Will Safrica become the next Zimbabwe?

[@toade1583]

No, Zimbabwe was a bad nation that was still bad after colonization, literally all African nations have increased education and lower poverty since colonization, same in South Africa, poverty had decreased drastically since Apartheid and what most Afrikaners won't admit is that the economy is actually better now than in Apartheid.

[@knockhello2604]

Probably.

[@henrymiller3663]

Done.

[@WalterBurton]

Fair.

[@Makkovar]

Well this is new.

[@otocinclus]

1:14 scared the shit out of me

[@ntatemohlomi2884]

Unsurprisingly a very well narrated whitewash of De Klerk's legacy. Only him comes out squicky clean.

[@a.hoctavius5848]

This is why S Africa should have been partitioned when the British left.... or at least when apartheid ended .....

[@ramasodimalete2699]

Brief history of South Africa from the perspective of someone from the union of SA that should be the title. The concerns of apartheid sympathizers. Besides it being a political perspective, there is a bit of historical truth

[@slicusdadon]

11 seconds in 'Executive Director, FW de Klerk Foundation'. Yeah credible unbiased source. SMH

[@HenkBoshoff]

... because you say so? Grow up.

[@vincentjansevanrensburg2378]

Incorrect, NP did not come to power in 1948, they were in power by majority vote in 1933

[@VeganRashad]

Did he just click correctly?

[@PeteMoore25]

Fast forward to the present day and the ANC has further racially divided the country than the Afrikaner NP government ever did and has utterly destroyed the strongest economy on the African continent.

[@sphumelelesijadu]

The ANC is bad but I think implying that it has racially divided the country more the that NP is a bit of an exaggeration. Could you perhaps give an example maybe to give you point some clarity.

[@serenityblue2639]

I love satafrika

[@kingmufasa8929]

Everybody fighting about shit that already happened! This land belongs to us all, guess where you go when you die?

[@desiganreddy1670]

Think British definitely had the upper hand before coming to Africa. But they wanted power. They could have instead help advance Africa and its people, share the land in exchange. All that war was really tragic on many native blacks. Currently in SA its a mess still. Independence has actually hurt SA more. The current government are looting and corrupted. Poverty is at an all time high.

[@Scott-rc1tj]

Who is Dave steward

[@Baileyfreedom]

Qhosa people.. :D

[@QuiteAWhiteOu]

bloody irritating

[@thabic2019]

Xhosa*

[@ekbergiw]

This is so ridiculous, it makes the English sound like they didn't do any of this stuff on purpose. Very short sighted

[@truth-Hurts375]

You did not listen to video....The Brits WANTED the gold and the dimonds...The WANTED to kill the Zulus....you are so cought up in your own ideas that you make up your own history !!!

[@joviescreenjoa347]

What about about the Koisan, you fail to mention that they were attacked,raped and killed by both the Bantus and Whites almost completely wiping them out.

[@critiqalvii2465]

Don't come here and lie

[@TheLuxuryPost]

interesting story

[@camera31]

is it Tskoza?

[@toonmag50]

Rhodesia was better as the Dutch were not there

[@WHKCCP]

And South Africa was better before the British and their "when we' spawn came to pollute the land.

[@brandenbedoya]

Am I the only one who heard him making a "clucking" sound with his mouth throughout the video?

[@magg7771]

Branden Bedoya Khosian languages use clicking. It shocked me as well

[@magg7771]

my mistake, sorry

[@sarinaronel]

Mario Gil Gomez You are right. Almost all Khosian languages use clicks. Xhosa is one example

[@Afrikaans36]

sarinaronelhate to do it, but Xhosa is Bantu not Khoisan :| sorry

[@sarinaronel]

Ahhh dammit, sorry about the misinformation

[@barneyblimp1498]

he doesn't seem to be reading, in fact i'm almost positive he's not-impressive monologue

[@richardhenry5015]

No he is not reading. He was the SA ambassador to the UN and also chief of communications for the National Party. I was a South African Military Historian for 39 years. I also often spoke to various group visiting the South African Military History Museum on various historical topics. Sometimes specifics were required and sometimes a general overview, ( without notes). One could never include everything

[@evermercykusure2435]

There is some truths in what you are saying andsome very polished statements. You couldn't have gone for the decades fighting each other because of the sanctions imposed on apartheid. You made a big mistake by negotiating with one man. That wasn't fair to the country. Why did you go to Angola to fight.Lastly you buried your heads in the sand avoiding the land distribution and inequality.

[@ven_one]

This man is a washout. After Germany is done with you they will assist the boer take back South Africa. No more trouble makers black and white. God Bless Germany.

[@pmolapo]

It’s fascinating how you can talk about the history of South Africa without actually saying much about the ACTUAL South African people,....the 80% population 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@stevefink6000]

No mention of the Dutch??? Yes he said "Afrikaans" but most people unfamiliar with the region would assume an African tribe, not Europeans. The Dutch colonized South Africa in the 1600s and still have a large presence in their population.

[@kimonam7768]

What of the forced migrations, concession companies and other factors that pushed for a federation? I wonder what Julian Cobbing and John Wright would say about this.

[@sidlynn95]

The analogy for Apartheid "You can't make an omelet without breaking eggs" WHAT?!?!

[@sephwatson340]

He was condemning that attitude. Particularly how social engineers of all strikes use it justify systems of oppression.

[@andrewdutoit9571]

deKlerk in my opinion must be held responsible for the situation in South Africa today. He as any White grade 8 child in the 80's knew that the Majority would destroy the infrastructure and economy of the Country like they had done in the rest of Africa when coming to power. deKlerk's Regime should have educated, upskilled and turned the then green Majority into running the Country like the White Patriots had done. His Regime should have taught them Work Ethic, Honesty and love for the Country as the White Tribe have. That would have been the lasting legacy he would have left but now we have a idea of succession of the Cape, small enclaves of White people isolating themselves and a Black Majority that has been indoctrinated by the Leftists for economical revenge because they cannot compete in the Work Place. deKlerk was a baffoon because what sanctions and Military Revolutionary action couldn't accomplish, deKlerks spinelessness did and now we are sitting in a Failed State and very little positive future for all.