A Brutally Honest Review of the Tornado V4 Pioneer

[@getdutched7642]

This thing is a PIECE OF SH*T we need tacosnode themed cubes

[@TacoSnoz]

@@getdutched7642 this is the type of energy I need from all Dutch people in the world

[@timcents9294]

@@TacoSnoz this is the only energy you are gonna get from dutch people

[@TacoSnoz]

@@timcents9294 Good

[@yurilia7384]

great video, i definitely felt seen with all these frustration points. i believe the corner cutting issue might be caused by the maglev, since its objectively less elastic than a spring. the cuts feel so much like the rs3m 2021 on any setting. i did end up maining this cube though, in an act of buyers remorse. i cleaned it out, lubed with weight 5 and calm, and it feels amazing now (before i have to relube it cause this thing eats lube like crazy). i set it up fast with axis distance 2 and compression 2 with magnets at 4. and only then i can consistently sub 9 with this cube. i do not recommend this cube unless you like getting into fights with plastic

[@WildWildWeasel]

My current cube lineup is Gan 12 M Leap, 12 Maglev, Tornado V4 Flagship, Guhong Pro Maglev and Weilong V10. I rotate between each every session and tbh I had the TV4 Pioneer and gave it away to my younger sister who got me into cubing. She loves the feel of it but them again she has a thing for cubes that are difficult to turn/uncontrollable.

[@TacoSnoz]

For me nowadays I would put the Gan 15 as the best cube. I killed my gan 15 by lubing the springs wrong when I did the spring mod so I gotta fix that before it's useable again though. I was hoping the springs would make it slightly more controllable.

[@malenky4057]

I got the TV4 Pioneer too. To make it usable for my tastes, I had to go 2 inner ring, 1 outer ringer and the weakest magnets. It's the only way to overcome the stupid magnet design. You're absolutely right than the GAN 12 or WRMv10 is just a better choice.

[@TacoSnoz]

I'll have to try out those settings you said. Even with the weakest magnets I was still getting awful times, something just feels so wrong about this cube.

[@malenky4057]

@@TacoSnoz The second to weakest magnet setting also seemed ok once I lubed the pieces 'larger' tracks (not the actual small track parts but the larger parts with the small holes on the sides).

[@TacoSnoz]

@@malenky4057 yeah I’ll definitely give it a try with the settings you mentioned

[@damianfedak4906]

I think if you wanna review you should try both versions

[@Babak_PN]

Thank you for the honesty

[@DaNgErDaVe1994]

Personally I like the tv4 pioneer. But I agree with a few points in this video. Especially with the fact that it feels a lot like the tv3. Felt little to no difference. I like the new magnet adjustment system tho. And the case is great. But I'm still not quite sure if it can replace my gan 12 as my main for comps

[@ColorBlock11]

For me what got me in the pioneer was the price and not hearing very positive things abt it and as a non-sponsored cuber I’m getting the flagship (Also my tv3 has broken multiple times and I just fixed it so I only want the tv4 for better durability)

[@ccubinglol]

Corner cutting on flagship should be better apparently

[@TacoSnoz]

I've heard that as well, seems like the flagship is just the better option overall.

[@CubeNoob34]

I have both versions of the TV4 and between the 2, I would choose the flagship. The extra magnets of the pioneer is just not for me

[@TacoSnoz]

Yeah I really regret buying the pioneer. Like I said, I typically prefer stronger magnets but for some reason the pioneer just feels so wrong.

[@CubeNoob34]

@@TacoSnoz I agree, the feeling is just weird in a way

[@TacoSnoz]

@@CubeNoob34 Yeah I seriously don’t know how to describe it, it’s just weird.

[@calmcuber]

are you gonna get the gan 15?

[@TacoSnoz]

@@calmcuber Yes! I’ve already preordered it and I’m super excited for it. I’ve been using the Gan 12 for a while now so I’m hoping that I’ll like the 15 too.

[@calmcuber]

@@TacoSnoz me too! I have also preorded it, I'm actually so hyped for this!

[@americancow598]

what's the falvor and how does the taste f=differ from tv3 flagship and wrm v10

[@TacoSnoz]

@@americancow598 Hmm I’d say it tastes like a bruised expiring banana. This would be if the TV3 flagship is a really nice ripe banana and the wrmv10 was a perfect banana.

[@DanielKubát-k9u]

Which version should i buy tv3 flagship tv3 Pioneer tv4 flagship?

[@TacoSnoz]

I'd say it would be a decent bet to go for the TV4 flagship. The TV3 Flagship is a great cube but has massive durability issues. The TV3 pioneer, I can't speak on really as I have never had it, but I believe the TV3 Flagship is preferred by the community. As for the TV4 Flagship, I also have never tried it, but I have heard it is basically just an improved TV3 Flagship.

[@HITHEREWINSTON]

I bought both and took the UV tiles from the pioneer and put them on my flagship lol, now it's a really good cube. They should really just give us UV tiles on the flagship as standard, not sure why they're still selling matte plastic in 2024. The edge pieces on the pioneer aren't the only problem, the pioneer's maglev core is tighter. I put both cubes on the loosest settings they'd go, and the pioneer's maglev core was still tighter, and the cube feels like it has a smaller turning radius as a result. The flagship's spring core is just better.

[@TacoSnoz]

@@HITHEREWINSTON Yeah I think I might try the flagship if they ever release a UV version. UV has just worked so much better for me than other types of plastic.

[@Halledoo]

i have the flagship and it feels great

[@TacoSnoz]

Yeah I'm regretting not buying the flagship. Maybe one day I'll buy it but I can't really see myself investing in that right now.

[@JLCubing]

I used the tv3 and I didnt like it and as soon as I heard that both cubes were similar, I hit the roadblock and said no

[@TacoSnoz]

Interesting. I heard that the TV4 flagship is more similar to the TV3 than the TV4 pioneer. I would say the pioneer feels really quite different from the TV3 Flagship.

[@JLCubing]

@@TacoSnoz yea and the thing is the cubes are hard to make fast, my tv3 stays slow and it hurts my hands

[@raunaksinha8485]

Should I buy tornado v4 flagship?

[@TacoSnoz]

@@raunaksinha8485 I honestly can’t say. I’ve heard the TV4 Flagship is much better than the pioneer and is overall an improved TV3. If you’re looking to buy a Tornado puzzle it’s probably the TV4 Flagship you should go for.

[@spidermooncake5563]

The flagship is the same thing as the the tv3 but has more durability and less flexible.

[@steamed7828]

I'm never buying this cube.

[@agent0422]

No one asked or cares

[@steamed7828]

@@agent0422 projecting much? i’d say you probably kiss your dad on the lips but it’s clear you never got attention as a kid

[@AColdCuber]

⁠@@agent0422this is a public comment section no one cares if anyone asked or not

[@weirdfish09]

Sure, but fix your grammar first.