A BUDGET TAK?? Testing the Founder Optics FOT106 Refractor

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[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

What are your thoughts on this scope? Would you consider this frac over a comparable Newt? Or over the other budget offerings? I do feel the optical results were quite decent (and it's always good to have an optical test result), but as always tilt is apparently here to ruin the day and requires patience to fix! Support me on Patreon!: www.patreon.com/cuivlazygeek Founder Optics FOT106: bit.ly/3WNfXLU Founder Optics FOT86: bit.ly/3oL1dAD Founder Optics FOT86, but on clearance/open box! : bit.ly/3NcQrMY Founder Optics ZWO EAF Bracket: bit.ly/3NcXSDO Founder Optics Dual Thread Adapter to avoid tilt: bit.ly/43lRlfW Founder Optics Reducer: bit.ly/3qlSjtL

[@astro7996]

You're killing it man! Incredible amount of quality content production. Keep it up!

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Thanks so much!! It's a lot of work, so I'm glad you're enjoying :-)

[@LiveSteamMad]

Inspection report at 2m24s. I don't think much of the optics, it can't even pass a Ronchi Test. Spherical Aberration (SA) is the main error. But I would be using it for visual observing mostly. A real FSQ-106 does pass the Ronchi Test and has negligable SA. It doesn't say whether it's a double pass test (in Autocollimation) or not, which doubles the error shown, but there is overcorrection of SA shown here.

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Thanks for this! I'll need to learn more about the Ronchi test!

[@Poketronics]

I barely know how to read a ronchi test, but I know enough to know that one is not flattering. At least they are honest? The again, for AP if the results look ok, then who cares?

[@LiveSteamMad]

@@Poketronics I for one care, because Spherical Aberration affects planets details at high magnification and you loose contrast and details and the view turns soft and mushy compared to refractors that have negligeable SA.

[@guyjordan8201]

Fantastic coverage. I love love love your problem-solving portions. What went wrong-What can fix it etc. Very thorough without a perfectionist’s panic. We can do this too.

[@perry3928]

Thanks so much Cuiv. Nice to see products from other provinces to see what they have to offer.

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

My pleasure!

[@leoleo-gx8ut]

Hi thanks for the video. About RONCHI: it's overcorrected and has horrible edge. perfect refractor would give you a perfectly sraight bars in Ronchi test.

[@paths1111]

Thanks for the review! Looks like a nice scope, but I don't really see it as competing against or emulating the Tak FSQ-106. The Tak has an image circle almost twice the size and is a Petzval design not requiring precise spacing from the flattener. The Tak of course is much more expensive. For folks using automated focusers, like most imagers, I don't see the utility of the extra focuser rotator, just seems like one more potential point of mis-alignment and tilt. I could see how it might be useful for visual observers who are manually focusing though. Seems like it should compete decently against other mid-range refractors of similar aperture.

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Yep, looking further into it the design is actually close to TOA, so a baby TOA

[@jodyschultz5870]

Love the review. I like the focus lock. I was also thinking about WO comparisons. Maybe a back to back would be fun.

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Focus lock is indeed good - I wish I had the WO to test!

[@Richard205maria]

Nice review, I have two of those refractors, the 106 and the 86, once you get the bracket for the zwo EAF it’s easy to install, I also bought the fIeld flattener adapters for both telescopes, which I also installed. You can try the back focus from 67 down. Somebody wrote that only Orion filters fit at the end of the FF, which is not true, I can put my optolong ect with no problem whatsoever. I can’t compare this 106 to the TAk 106, 2400 to a 7000 one. Not everybody can afford that luxury, but this one can take you to the same destination. Thank you, Rich

[@lesgatechair3907]

How are stars on yours?

[@AnakChan]

Thx for this. As you can guess I follow the JP stores closely still (Tomita, Kyoei, UC-Trade, Syumitto, Tele-Scorpio, etc.) and I see Founder Optics but know little of their origins. You've shed the light in my curiosity there :D.

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Glad I could help there ;-)

[@Hilmi12]

That focuser looks exactly like the primaluce labs airy apo90 Ed focuser. Even the rotating lock on the 2" barrel is the same

[@vastrop345]

Or the Teleskop Service AP 110/660 ED OTA - it seems we are going to see a new wave of clones.

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

You're right! I didn't know about that scope but the focuser looks identical! Even the focus lock! So what about the patent thing? I Googled it and it has existed since 2010. Interesting!

[@RobertKarlBerta]

I forgot to mention....a Ronchi screen is very useful and cheap item to test for in or under correction in the optics along with some other tests. I got my Ronchi test screen from Orion Telescope company is the US. It comes with simple instructions for testing your scopes.

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Thanks again and thanks for sharing!

[@jlecomte0719]

Raunchy (as opposed to Ronchi) test?! Slowly expanding the dew shield in a rousing motion… 😂 Oh Cuiv… At least, there was no mention of butt plugs this time 😅 Great review, thank you!

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Hahaha it's always fun to add not so subtle innuendo lol

[@user-lt9py2pu6u]

Looks like the sort of scope I may eventually upgrade to, but I still haven't fully mastered the imaging yet so will stick with my Cat 51 and GT81 scopes for the time being. Great review all the same.

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Keep using what you have as it works!

[@radioparisment628]

Hi Cuiv. Thank you for the video. As usual, I'm waiting for results in different configurations to state an opinion.

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

I'll see if I can get my hands on full frame!

[@starwatcher]

Notes from the seller: The ZWO EAF cannot be mounted on this scope's focuser as the large focus lock knob gets in the way. Adapter is sold out. Not sure about other focusers. The female thread on the 2" nosepiece of the included flattener is M48x0.6. This can only accept Orion brand filters which use this thread. You cannot use this end with filters made by others that use the standard M48x0.75 thread. This seems like a big deal, is it?

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

The nosepiece threads of the flattener is a non issue to me, I think these days, especially now that ZWO has good budget filter drawers most do not use that to mount a filter. But I do think the dual threaded adapter should be included in the package! And they should make sure to have the EAF bracket in stock (and/or provide a 3D model of it)

[@robertvanvugt3371]

Hmmmm, good review 1st off. For me anymore at this price it needs to not have elongated star issues in the corners when using their supplied flattener. Using a flattener/reducer will likely make the star elongation worse so IMO the Askar V does a better job with this and comes with both flattener and reducer at a lower price and has better versatility despite smaller aperture.

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Yep, the Askar V is quite impressive overall. I think Founders should provide the dual threaded adapter with the kit - I expect I would have had the same results as the Askar (or better) with it!

[@desmcmorrow2978]

Another great review. Must say I am tempted. Other option is the zwo/askar 107 but wished they were open about the glass used. Please review the threaded adapt and reducer when available. Cheers, Des

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

The Askar/ZWO version also looks really cool to be honest!

[@desmcmorrow2978]

@@CuivTheLazyGeek agreed…. Waiting for reliable reviews before making a decision. Hint, hint…..😊

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

@@desmcmorrow2978 hahaha always hard!

[@wibiti]

Thanks for the video! With the shiny black finish, for a moment I wondered if it was a carbon fiber tube. The rubber rings on the focuser knobs don't look great, and I question their longevity. I can't agree that it is trying to mimic the Takahashi fsq. One is a triplet f6 and the other a quadruplet f5 design. Agena Astro's product description compares the optical design to the Takahashi toa.

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

You're right! I was misled by the size, but it looks like a baby TOA indeed!

[@firsttrade4029]

Looks like another high quality long perng scope. These scopes really are top notch

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Yes it seems to be that!

[@garythompson3869]

Designed in Japan. Made in Taiwan. Much like most consumer Nikon products nowadays. Who I do believe have suffered from some quality control issues in recent years. I do wonder if this maybe the cause of the misalignment of the optics on this telescope or the field flattener? Having said that. In the Uk its around £500 cheaper than the Askar 107 PHQ. That could buy you a couple of decent filters. worth considering if you are not a pixel peeper.

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

I really would need to test the dual threaded adapter to be sure!

[@kennetknudsen7042]

that cloth comment almost made em think when is a scope "hygiene" video going to show. (think you did one already) alot of people are unsure on what to use these days thank you for the informative videos btw. some of them have helped me on my rasa 8 quest i am on. looking at good F2 SHO filters for now to replace the optolong 6nm set i have. (strong SII halo)

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Fast narrowband filters are really difficult to find - there's always something because of the fast FR, reflections in particular... But I hear great things about the Astronomik filters!

[@kennetknudsen7042]

@@CuivTheLazyGeek have astronomik clip filters but generally not happy with the quality from there. if memmory serves its either baader or some one else who makes the filter they use

[@miketuggle9273]

This looks like a Long Perng product. Orion Optics has a scope that is a spittin image of it only the green bits are red. And it doesn't come with the accessories. I was an inch away from getting the Orion version back in 2021, but then I spied the WO FLT 91 and I went with that. In no way do I thin, the Long Perng scope is bad. It appears to be very nice, especially with the dual ED glass set up.

[@ssrattus]

Thankyou for your videos!

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

My pleasure!

[@lee-van-cleef]

Looks like a pretty nice scope. Not quite an FSQ106 competitor as the FSQ can be reduced to f/3, but still looks good.

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Yes, I was mistaken, apparently it tries to match up with the TOA, but I'm no Tak expert...

[@raeiqmusachi]

Nice video mate. A ronchi in single type of light it appears blue probably not very useful. What you want to do is set up DPAC testing at home and you can test the accuracy of the figure at home and there’s software that even lets you calculate the strehl by fitting the dpac results in different colours. Theres a whole thread of it on cloudynights. But beware it would be right up your ally and it will be a new rabbit hole. probably a useful rabbit hole might complement your filter testing series.

[@mrlintonious]

Love the green. Also makes me Green of envy to own one. Still out of my price range though.

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

It's only on loan for me :-(

[@desbarry8414]

Looks nice but here in the UK it is a whopping £259 more expensive than Altair's larger 115 FPL55 triplet APO so unfortunately a no for pricing for me al least.

[@Mel-127]

Mostly in UK, if item $2000 it becomes £2000 plus part of bundle become extra's, no longer as one. With you on your bang for buck.

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

That's a shame, there's no doubt the Altair is then a superior choice (assuming good optical quality)...

[@RobertKarlBerta]

Nice review. Did you consider using the tilt correction on your camera (if you have one on your camera). My ZWO 071 has that ability and would have been fun to check it out with the scope. One feature that I noticed is that besides the two speed nice focuser.....it uses a gear and rack instead of a friction type connection. I have that on my 6" Officina Stellaere APO and it is wonderful because there is NO slippage or creep as you move in and out repeatedly with a motorized focuser. Makes setup and consistent location of focuser and repeatability flawless. One thing that can cause the corner out of round stars is off center optic on the flat field lens if it isn't held dead center. The screw lock is better for that than onbe of those types that uses a brass lock ring that is clamped with only one compression screw that pushes the optic off center. Since this has the better camping arangement though I suspect the tilt is from the camera chip. The threaded to threaded version would be the better choice and that is what I use for that very reason.

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Thanks so much for those precisions Robert! You're right that it's likely the dual threaded adapter should help a lot - I wish they had sent it to me to test, and I wish it came with the scope! And yes the gear and rack focuser is fantastic.

[@lepetitbaigneur9073]

firstt!! Nice video Cuiv! Keep it up💪🏽

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Well done, that m you !

[@tubedude54]

I like it! Blue and green go together but not with that red... need a pegasus harmonic drive for it to look correct!

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Haha, I gotta say you're right lol

[@Space-Stuff]

Hey Cuiv, nice review and interesting telescope. Have you seen the new Askar V 60mm / 80mm Triplet Modular Apo Refractor Telescope yet? It's like 6 scopes in one! I hope you get a chance to do a review on one! Anyway, thank you for all your hard work in putting these videos together for us. I, for one, appreciate it very much and enjoy watching them, sometimes, several times over! Sincerely, Rich Williams Astor, Florida 32102 USA!

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Hello Rich! Yes, I have already reviewed the Askar V, I think it's a great scope! First look: kzbin.info/www/bejne/faPcYqKbaZlmf6M and optical tests: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZpSYhaBrZp59bqc

[@mikehardy8247]

You're FAR from the average joe.. why did I even watch this, I'm not going to buy it? Because this hobby has me hooked... Thanks for feeding my habit.

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Hahaha I love to feed people's addictions!

[@astroshooter1960]

Love that scope. Just got my Poseidon OSC camera. I'm still having trouble with back focus and tilt, maybe.... stars were horrible at the edges. Oh, I just love this hobby 😂

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

This hobby is a gift that keeps on giving!

[@astroshooter1960]

@@CuivTheLazyGeek 😆😆😆

[@gary122]

If you have the fot86, add another 14-15mm spacer before the OSC for the 1x flattener

[@astroshooter1960]

@gary122 Hi Gary, I have a Takahashi Sky 90ll and a new Poseidon-C camera. When using a focal reducer, you need 56.2mm of back focus instead of the standard 55 mm. That is a pain trying to get .2mm into the train 🙄

[@deepdiver0101]

Yep, mimics the design of the TOA 130 and 150 scopes, not the FSQ ones. Wide air gaps with 2 low dispersion elements. Its one of the best optics triplet designs out there, when aligned correctly. In fairness to the this great review, but also the scope, some time needs to be spent to to get rid of backfocus and tilt, unlikely it is the scopes fault unless there is a fundamental misalignment of the optics. Pity it is so hard for far east scope to have a black and white classic colorway. Loud primary colors are not so nice to some, but it looks well made.

[@lesgatechair3907]

Nice video! Pls continue testing it with other add-on devices. Does EAF mount work? Deal breaker for me

[@heavyjohnny]

It looks like they took a page out of the BAADER book. Much like the quick lock. This should be the standard. You have peeked my curiosity with this little 106. Great price rang for a triplet too.

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Still not perfect, the dual threaded adapter is definitely needed!

[@heavyjohnny]

@@CuivTheLazyGeek I noticed you and Nico both had some tilt issues.

[@neilsmith5883]

Brilliant video cuiv. Your telescope reviews are great. I get how erotic it is to pullout the dew shield 😂😂

[@dark-pixels]

OK 106mm is like the Takahashi FSQ106 but optics are nothing in commun. The FSQ106 is an optimized Petzval quadruplet, not a triplet with corrector. And on the FSQ106 the corrected image circle is 88mm stock, can be short to f/3 with a 44mm corrected image circle, all with an amazing 4" focuser.

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

You're correct! It seems the optics are trying to mimic the larger TOA and not the 106, I was deceived by the size - this is more of a baby TOA

[@lee-van-cleef]

“Tak” and “amazing focuser” are three words that do not go together :-)

[@dark-pixels]

@@lee-van-cleef > Yeah I know the knobs part can look cheap on Taka optics 😅, but I insist about the amazing 4" focuser who can support more than 1kg of gear without any tilt. 😎

[@bobeshoz]

at 15:00 you mentioned to provide link to the 3D print file for the Bahtinov mask but I cannot find it, do you have the link ? thanks

[@weatherchaser1166]

Calling yourself an average Joe with the equipment you use and test would put me so far down the ladder they'd have have to dig me out of the ground

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Ah maybe yes but I'm so far down compared to those people who do minute adjustments to tilt, etc.!!

[@zelimirfedoran9720]

This looks like a beautiful scope

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

It does look beautiful, but I wish there was more in the box to avoid tilt!

[@deltacx1059]

3:36 wait, that thing looks identical to my flattener with the exception of the green print, I don't know if this is a reusing parts thing but if it isn't then enjoy your 150$ flattener, it works well even for my janky scope. 8:05 for that price they could have thrown in a bag of washers.

[@nikaxstrophotography]

Nico Carver did a comparison between this, a less expensive refractor and some more expensive refractors, it held up well but still had a few small issues, tilt being one of them if I recall correctly

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Yep, so we have a similar observation!

[@gary122]

Mine has slightly pinched optics, but a don't think you can adjust the cell

[@Christiaan-qj8fi]

With the risingcam, have you experienced any issues with it related to quality or customer service? I love the IMX 571 but don’t want to spend 2k on it lol

[@captaincook6666]

Where would you fit the guidescope?

[@MikeKasprzak]

Hearing the price hurt, but does look like a fine piece of kit. 😋

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

It does! Why do fine pieces of kit need to cost so much??

[@StarrySkyMilkyWay]

素晴らしい！！

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

ありがとうございます!

[@Mel-127]

For the price and IF, (and thats a very big IF) the accessories and silver case stay as one bundle. Also if accessories stay together no matter what county its sold. Then i could be interested in this company. Also, do they provide a matching finder/guide scope with/for it. If this company does not supply ALL gadgetry, will there be a struggle/miss match to fitting other company products to it? In all i see a very interesting scope. Thanks for this review Cuiv. Clear sky's to you.

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Yep it does seem that it comes as a set including in Japan, but who knows about other countries. Still having to buy an adapter for EAF and the double threaded adapter is an additional expense.. As for guidescope, I could fit my normal QHY guide scope without any issues!

[@alcosound]

Looks quite nice as a refractor, but I wouldn't like to spend such an amount of money on it. I think that an ED doublet would be sufficient, if going to do narrowband imaging?

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

If going to do monochrome narrowband imaging, yes in theory it should be fine!

[@leoleo-gx8ut]

For astrophoto it's ok. But for high magnification visual use, i would't expect much

[@Neanderthal75]

I no longer feel bad about my $400 telescope having a corner-comet-star issue. Yes, I know ..this has better clarity and all better focuser and so on, but still makes me look at how much we demand from our cheaper telescopes to perform and yet stuff this like this still shows up on much more expensive scopes.

[@rinceart]

Somehow I'm having a hard time believing the "designed in Japan" part. But, otherwise, seems like a decent "little" scope.

[@woody5109]

You generally get what you pay for, great review.

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Thank you!

[@derekbaker3279]

The Tak FSQ106 is F-5 & a vocal length of 540mm, which is noticeably faster & wider than this FOT106. Furthermore, the Tak FSQ106 can provide a properly illuminated & corrected field for a full-frame sensor, and even a medium format sensor (e.g. 55mm diagonal or even 61mm diagonal). For the FT106 to have a chance at being a 'budget Tak', it would have to, at minimum provide a sharp & well-illuminated field for a full-frame sensor...and, IMHO, that is all that's necessary for a 'budget Tak', because only a tiny percentage of astrophotographers will ever image with a medium format sensor. So, I am hoping that Cuiv can get hold of a full-frame sensor camera to test what this FOT106 can really do as a portable, wide-field refractor.

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Thanks Derek for those details! From other comments it does seem that the design is actually more reminiscent of the TOA fracs, so a baby TOA kind of deal?

[@msacco]

It looks amazing mechanically, but the test results are quite meh in my opinion, perhaps due to mechanical design...Not sure why they went with locking mechanism instead of threads, that's a stupid decision, the adapter you mentioned should come with it, and the decision to not support EAF natively is also stupid($50 for a miserable bracket). Overall, it looks nice, but with the need for all these adapters and the already high price, there are better options.

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Yes, the additional adapters are a shame, I do wish they were provided with the scope. Others mentioned the mechanisms look identical to Primaluce APO90 scope, so they're not alone

[@msacco]

@@CuivTheLazyGeek I can't find any Primaluce telescope? :o

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

@@msacco Primaluce Lab AIRY ED90 Apochromatic Refractor Telescope

[@BrokenPik]

Wait till you try to attach a Autofocuser on there.... Ouch. ....have fun ( EAF or Pegasus) .... i would know , i have that model. Oye!!!

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Exactly my worry!

[@jmm3194]

Hi ! Can the telescope be purchased in Europe ?

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Seems to be on Teleskop Express!

[@jmm3194]

@@CuivTheLazyGeek a bit too expensive compared to US prices, but thanks anyway!. Thanks for the videos Cuiv

[@deep_space_dave]

Careful Cuiv, sounds like you have a crush on this scope LOL! Does you wife know about this one 😁 Either way awesome review and that is a really nice scope! So much thought into the design and the optics are pretty good! Just don't stare into the green, it will get you 🤣 Clear Skies mate!

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Thanks so much Dave! It's ok I already negotiated with my wife that I'm polyamorous with my scopes :p

[@deltacx1059]

My thoughts: not budget in any sense unless you get a pretty hefty monthly allowance. Cool scope with nothing inherently wrong but who is this for exactly? I'm guessing the people that think nothing but premium refractors will do. Anyone who needs aperture will have went for any other type of scope heck for the price of the small one you can get a beefy reflector with a great corrector if it doesn't already have one and for the big one you are getting laughed out of the room by the guy rocking a mega dob and a DSLR or the guy with a cass/newt with a crazy camera. Even for the premium people I don't think the extra spring for the scope this is supposed to be a cheaper version of. Would be nice to see actual budget content though, maybe home built scopes.

[@gregb5149]

Sorry for ranting but having to fix the cutouts in the case really annoys me. How can they be so thoughtless. Does anybody actually use their own products!

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Hahaha yeah I understand the feeling!

[@Planetreefastro]

Great video Cuiv! But you an average Joe? I think not. Very erotic dew shield? I tried the one on my scopes and got nothing so it must be the scope. And the focuser? I think your videos are turning into astronomy porn! Lol. Keep up the great work. Love your channel! Au revoir From New York , Luis

[@Mel-127]

😂🤣😂🤣 ive noticed too. 😂🤣😂

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Hahaha thanks Luis! Don't we all love those sexy, sexy telescopes with parts that smoothly slide into and out of each other? :P

[@whatmattersmost6725]

Sad Cuiv, not possiable to attach an ZWO EAF without Founder Optics EAF adapter.. Also for this cost I expected much better image quality.

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

As far as I can tell yes...

[@whatmattersmost6725]

@@CuivTheLazyGeek But why don't 3D design like there bracket for your EAF?

[@starwatcher]

Average joe like you. 😂

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Definitely!

[@anata5127]

Design is great! Main question is who is running QC. Japan? Refer to your example, Apple does, not Chinese manufacturers.

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Apparently they do QC in Taiwan, but with equipment and processes from Japan...

[@nadirteymurov1]

Another company fails to mimic the legendary Tak FSQ !

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Hahaha

[@wolvesandguitars]

3k is not budget for anything!! some things are never going to be cheap.

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Yeah, in astro often budget really means "budget"

[@wolvesandguitars]

@@CuivTheLazyGeek I am transitioning from Guitar collecting to junior baby level Astronomy and its very parallel as im trying to not spend too much at first in case its over my head. So far Dwarf 2 which was actually cheap for what it does and a 8' dob with a couple fancy eye pieces which cost as much as the dang 8'. If I get to a year and still go out at night to view ill think about something like this. I do enjoy your reviews and the dwarf was one that helped me feel ok about buying. Ill started 'budgeting" for a refractor maybe the Z61 or Red cat stuff at first.

[@Peter.A-A]

Using the word "Budget" in headline, and then do the scope cost $2500,- Here in EU, it costs $3000,-. I will almost, just almost, use the word clickbaite. I normally enjoys your videos, but sometimes I think that people loose their sense for normal pricing stuff. I know, expensive stuff is more fun.

[@billhaleyrock2471]

Das ist ein feines Teleskop,der preis aber auch.

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Exactly...

[@trident8872]

How is the clarity of view through this telescope for human eye?? Is it crystal clear??

[@PlandemicSeries-com]

At 07:15, along with all of the past video "buttplug" and "flocking" references suggest that perhaps a date night with the wife/girlfriend is over due?? ;-)

[@CuivTheLazyGeek]

Mwahahaha you have nothing to worry about in that respect

[@PlandemicSeries-com]

@@CuivTheLazyGeek I'm not worried, but understand that after all of those nights of stress and wound up emotions, I'm wishing a fellow astronomy lover some niiiice night time destress relief.