A Car Crash, Two Missing People, And A Mystery (Lindsay & Hailey Gardner)

[@TheMissingEnigma]

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[@cboyles84]

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[@duncanself5111]

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[@ThePresentation010]

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[@BeetleBuns]

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[@ThePresentation010]

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[@harrycarrey5124]

Wow great police work... the first cop literally just left the accident without scanning the area and looking for the occupants and at the very least stickering the car or calling a tow truck.

[@PrimateProductions]

Yeah. .. two bodies laying there in the daylight and he just leaves

[@chrisharmon8858]

Being in cattle country wouldn't you think that he'd have known to stick around until someone associated with the property could show up and make sure they didn't have cattle roaming all over the neighborhood across the road? Must have been close to shift change and he wasn't allowed overtime.

[@trashq.basket2718]

@@chrisharmon8858 or close to donut time.

[@treytrae2533]

if that was his wife the whole police department would have been out in full force just sorry back to eating my donuts 🍩...

[@kingsoren2010]

Odd.

[@MultiSycorax]

I live in this area, and what alot of people are missing is the county ME has been brought up on charges for improperly investigating causes of death, to the point it was noticed in numerous court cases.

[@chriswaters3442]

Shades of Arkansas and Bill Clinton.

[@teenieneenie630]

Same thing occured in OKC several years ago.

[@nillyk5671]

Lazy, useless cops.

[@futuredoc2014]

@@chriswaters3442ahh the boys on the tracks case

[@captainexcabier]

I'm kind of surprised that the police didn't do a more thorough job considering the state of the bodies.

[@marhawkman303]

enh, weird cases like this? there's not much you CAN do. About the only thing they might have done is more careful analysis of the bodies, but even then... Was there anything to find? the core to this case seems to be figuring out what the woman was thinking, but we have no idea. Her behavior prior to the crash was strange, why? what was she TRYING to do when she crashed?

[@NASkeywest]

Seems like police involved

[@bobswagger9047]

@@NASkeywest I was thinking it was all a little too nonchalant and not very thorough on their part.

[@wyatt1377]

Welcome to Republican states

[@travislogan1482]

@@NASkeywest Or lazy work? I get the feeling, sadly, that some people are just in a job for the pay check and not because of a sense of duty.

[@sonofeyeabovealleffoff5462]

Severe incompetence on the first policeman who left the car there.

[@Yet1moreUtuber]

Wow, strange indeed. Hats off to the artist as well, takes time and effort to produce them.

[@Bella.216]

He does his own drawings

[@YahushasDisciple]

The drawings are always incredible.

[@MiguelSilva-vq6qe]

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[@TrpleAgnt2011]

Off the computer generated redundancy

[@bigforestband]

Another possibility is that she had a seizure, which explains the crash. After an epileptic fit, there is often a sort of fugue state where people are very confused and behave strangely and irrationally, sometimes for hours. She may have felt paradoxically undressed if she suffered from hypothermia during a post-seizure fugue state and undressed her daughter because, to her, it was hot. Of course, we will never know for sure.

[@puppiesarepower3682]

Yours is the best explanation so far! But what about the scratches on her buttocks? 🤔

[@MDR-hn2yz]

Same with people suffering from diabetic emergencies. This is a strange case indeed.

[@KevinWilliams-qp2gf]

I agree with this statement. My wife of 14 years had epileptic seizures and after the seizures she was very confused but still actively trying to do things.

[@markriosn7589]

A seizure with violent convulsions might also explain the superficial scratches as she might have scratched up against stuff in the car while convulsing though I feel that we would know if she had a history of seizures or epilepsy. Seems like a really bad luck for someone to suffer their very first seizure while driving at night in these circumstances but I guess isn't impossible.

[@user-ni4eg4wo2k]

@@markriosn7589 maybe the driving at night and headlights coming at her could’ve caused the seizure?

[@Samouraii]

It would have helped if the officers had a look what the scene usually looked like at night. If you can't see any street lights I would imagine it would have been pitch black in the field

[@rebeccaeverhardt214]

Your exactly right which would explain why she walked off in the wrong direction.

[@jmgajda8071]

Thanks for covering this case; it's one I haven't heard of before. So, whiplash can actually cause a concussion by slamming the brain into the sides of the skull, and since it can take-up to 24 hours for symptoms of whiplash to become apparent, it's possible Lindsay was actually suffering from a concussion without any overt external signs of injury, and therefore acted erratically and irrationally as a consequence. No matter what happened, this case is tragic, and I feel for the deceased and the family. As always, you did an excellent job covering this!

[@penelopelopez8296]

That’s what I was thinking that she had a concussion and was in shock. She could still function but her brain wouldn’t be functioning properly and her actions were purely survival instincts and other cold weather didn’t help her situation because I think she was dragging herself and the baby across the cold, hard ground until she became hypothermic, removed her and the baby’s clothing then she succumbed to the cold. They said it was about 30 degrees outside and the ground is even colder, especially if you’re crawling across it n shock and suffering from a concussion.

[@rosesarered3904]

@@penelopelopez8296 That makes sense, her dragging or crawling through the ground would explain the scrapes on their faces, body and knees. Such a puzzling and sad case.

[@jmgajda8071]

@@penelopelopez8296 Exactly! I actually hadn't thought about the crawling across the ground, but it makes total sense. I just hope she and the baby were in such a state of shock that they didn't really feel very much other than overheated. So sad.

[@PrimateProductions]

It would have been picked up in the autopsy

[@PrimateProductions]

@@penelopelopez8296 they would have seen trauma to her brain and there was none

[@drumdad54sdl47]

Wow... being left to try to put the pieces of this mystery back into place is a chore I wouldn't want to face. So many factors make no sense whatsoever. The direction she was driving, the accident itself, the scratches, the undressing..where she walked..

[@b4uc2far95]

This was a very strange and interesting case. I’d actually never heard this one before so nice work here.

[@tiffanystephens4785]

Me too. Good job. 🤎🤎🤎🤎🤎

[@jamesnunya9541]

😥 I'm a father and this is so heart breaking that poor little one so unfair she didn't even get to enjoy life.

[@ctam31ify]

Nice! Was just hoping for a new video. Thanks for the great content.

[@csmith2992]

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[@Blatsen]

It’s abhorrent and unacceptable how the police treated this case. They didn’t investigate the first 911 call placed by the tanker driver’s supervisor. Then, the first officer at the scene failed to do their job and blew off investigating the crash. This officer should have been severely disciplined or fired, but likely was not even reprimanded. Only upon receiving a third 911 call did the police actually bother investigating the crash.

[@Happyheartmatt]

She likely walked into the brush right in front of the car in a disoriented state.

[@DaimyoD0]

Yeah I agree. If she was confused enough to wander into the cow pasture, she could have wandered into the trees which were full of brush. I just hope there was a significant investigation to determine if there was anyone else present at the scene. Obviously, absence of evidence isn't necessarily evidence of absence.

[@privatehudson4432]

Yup not aliens

[@DaimyoD0]

@@privatehudson4432 Who said aliens? lol

[@mikebond6328]

Could have been aliens.

[@mikebond6328]

Due to the location and severity of the scratches the medical examiner thought the scratches happened after they were both undressed. Away from the car.

[@socket_error1000]

It seems highly unlikely that given the nature of that accident, high rate of speed it was travelin when it left the road, and the damage to the vehicle when it hit the tree, that she wouldn't have hit her head or at least suffered a mild concussion from just the forward momentum halting so violently. Surely this would have been enough for her to lose consciousness without even having to hit anything with her head. From there it would have been simple enough for her to start to experience the effects of hypothermia while unconscious. The stuck throttle hypothesis seems like a good place to start for a cause. In the pictures provided the gas pedal is all the way down. This may have been a result of the damage to the vehicle but at least warranted further investigation of the stuck throttle hypothesis. Many people would not know how to respond to such an emergency as it is very rare and not one we bother teaching our children to be prepared for. (A few of us learned this the hard way after hokey repairs to mini bikes, lol) As a result people often panic and after failing to get it unstuck and the speed reaches higher levels they try to ride the brakes. This is useless, fighting the power of the vehicle and eventually destroying the brakes. Instead of simply putting the vehicle in neutral and then using the brakes to bring the vehicle to a halt and then shutting off the ignition. It sounds simple and obvious but when such things happen panic can cloud a person's judgement. The former scenario has been seen in a few police incidents where they encountered panicked drivers speeding down the road unable to stop runaway vehicles. One incident I recall involved terrified frantic woman who had already destroyed her brakes by the time the police had caught up to her at speeds exceeding 100mph and had to be talked through shifting the transmission into neutral over a cell phone so the police could get in front of the coasting and brakeless vehicle and force it to a safe stop.

[@michelewalburn4376]

I know to put the car in neutral in the case of the throttle being stuck open, accelerator down, but in a panic I can't say what I'd do first. No doubt hit the brakes. I should hope that I would quickly get my shit together, but I can't say for sure what I'd do. With a baby in the car, that adds so much stress.

[@socket_error1000]

@@michelewalburn4376 You are probably right that most people would panic in such a rare situation, even if just momentarily and that could be enough to lead to tragedy if it happened in heavy traffic or on a dangerous road. I think that while she didn't think to put the car in neutral, she might have eventually got there. It is possible that while she was trying to get the pedal unstuck she either bent down or had her eyes off the road long enough to cause her to cross the roadway and vere off the road leading to the crash. The further mystery as to why she was traveling in that direction on that road might have also been due to the stuck throttle. If the throttle issue had begun before turning onto that roadway it could have been a split second decision to get off a smaller roadway onto a more open stretch of road. This could account for her travelling in a direction away from where she should have been going. I don't think this was a ignorant woman acting irrationally but one trying desperately to solve a problem that ran out of time too soon.

[@marhawkman303]

@@socket_error1000 hmmm I do kinda wonder what level of trauma she suffered BEFORE the crash too. This is full-on Dukes of Hazzard level stuff. Ran through a road sign, ran off the road, took out 30 yards of fence, ran through a DIFFERENT fence, jumped the car over a side street, then hit a tree? Lots of room to get shaken up and multiple minor traumas.

[@Sanakudou]

I don’t have a drivers license due to a health condition that’d make it dangerous to ever drive, so I guess it’s no surprise I haven’t heard of that solution before but kinda glad to know it now in case I’m ever the passenger in such a event to help a potentially too-panicked-to-remember-what-to-do driver try and stop the car safely!

[@PointNemo9]

​@@socket_error1000 The throttle getting stuck in a manual car (like her car) is not dangerous. The driver can simply press the clutch and stop power going to the wheels.

[@burtknighten1873]

If your accelerator breaks remember to put the car in neutral.

[@puppetguy8726]

Thanks, this is good to know

[@khandiieamerson1039]

Thank you.

[@luvslagos]

My questions for law enforcement: (1) how fast was she going when she hit the tree? There would be a mark on the speedometer at moment of impact; (2) has the car been evaluated for faulty operation; and (3) did they try to get any security footage from stores along her route? This case reeks of police incompetence. The first officer seemed like he didn’t even follow protocol.

[@AnawithoneK]

And the fact that they couldn't find anything in the autopsy... Like wth lack of professional work

[@penelopelopez8296]

I wonder if anyone from Toyota inspected that car to determine if the accelerator was actually defective. They never mention that. She hit that tree with some serious force from the looks of the front of that car.

[@badweetabix]

Sadly, this is par for the course in the Fort Worth police department that was poorly rated in a review by oeople who work or worked in the FWPD, The police in Fort Worth have a long history of problems

[@PrimateProductions]

He already said that the car was not inspected

[@PrimateProductions]

@@penelopelopez8296 yes he does mention that...he said no the car was not inspected

[@gf301]

As others have said, you have to wonder what the effects on the brain would be after an impact like that. The car actually bounced apparently, and then you have a violent stop with the airbag being deployed. Surely that would leave anyone stunned to some degree, perhaps she was severely disoriented. Whether that explains all of it who knows, the forgotten coat, going the wrong way, maybe there was something already not right with her. Very sad case. Big thanks to Nick once again.

[@pablowentscobar]

I've heard, that because hypothermia leaves no clear signs in a dead body, that it's a final conclusion type result. Like there where no other signs of COD, therefore it must be hypothermia. Any idea if that's true? Either way, another great video. your editing and audio are really slick. Video has great pacing.

[@Scarethelocals]

I've questioned all of the deaths attributed to hypothermia in cases with unknown and mysterious circumstances. It seems to just be accepted as fact when it is actually undetermined. I'm sure it is the case sometimes but it's never a proven fact. I just want to point out that it's a blind spot and maybe sometimes just a lazy way to explain things that scare us to look into or understand.

[@pablowentscobar]

@@Scarethelocals I agree.

[@warrenSPQRXxl]

It is quite possible she suffered a concussion from the accident even though her head did not hit the windshield. A concussion can cause numerous symptoms including disorientation, confusion, visual problems, etc. Special sequence MRIs can detect physiological changes in a survivor but there might be nothing evident on an autopsy. Airbags certainly can cause abrasions themselves as well as other objects in the car including in this case tears in seat covers.

[@PrimateProductions]

Sounds very unlikely

[@marhawkman303]

@@PrimateProductions Enh, as someone who's suffered multiple concussions... it takes far less injury than you'd think. None of the one's I've suffered were accompanied by obvious external injuries.

[@johnjerman3421]

airbags caused her & the child's abrasions on their backs? well ok then case solved - gee whiz dude you ever think before you speak?

[@warrenSPQRXxl]

​@@johnjerman3421 "Gee whiz dude" have you been in a serious car accident or more importantly examined people that have. The car has worn out, torn upholstery. People thrown around violently can get abrasions anywhere depending on their clothing, seat belt usage, surfaces they come in contact with and objects in the car. Not to mention whatever actions a dazed, confused person might make make after the accident.

[@MF-ty2zn]

Sounds like a victim of "walking while dying." It's when a person has head trauma and bleeding in the brain but they don't realize they're dying. Removal of clothing is common in these instances.

[@Angel-nu7fm]

No trauma to the head.

[@JChris143]

Thanks for the vids dude, keep em coming ❤✌

[@Strype13]

Another great presentation, Enigma. And your artwork was incredible, as it always is. Really appreciate you sharing these with us. Keep up the awesome work, good sir!

[@mikebond6328]

The paradoxical undressing strikes me as odd because all the clothing was in a pile, all together. It’s unusual.

[@reesedaniel5835]

Yeah I'm not buying that over used, worn out explanantion.

[@jhsrt985]

Same

[@THEFlea1991]

@@reesedaniel5835Care to enlighten us with your theory then?

[@cathyvaughan5092]

There's more to that story than what everyone wants to ignore...I've noticed lately all the Coroner's report is always hypothermia when they can't really say exactly what it was?

[@Cutter-jx3xj]

I have been by that place sooo many times. None of that makes any sense. While living in Mansfield I came across 2 vehicles that were wrecked out on different days. Both of them were abandoned. Very strange indeed

[@gato712]

That’s a strange one. Only about a block or a few hundred feet from help.

[@ronjohnson8881]

The openings to your videos give me goosebumps every time. I assume it's due to the fact I associate the horror of these chilling true stories with your trademarked eerie jingle, absolutely love it and these videos man keep up the great work :)

[@virginiasaunders7076]

Wow, a lot was mishandled by the police in this case, accidental cause or not...She and her Child deserved better.

[@fathomgathergood7690]

That first cop should give his head a damn shake. Sure, maybe the driver fled, but find out WHO owns the car and try to locate them through the insurance.

[@easygoer1234]

Wow this case was so weird. I've never heard this one before.

[@contrarian8870]

At 1:30 am the houses on one side would have visible lights, while the pasture would be dark. No idea why anyone would NOT walk towards the lights, even if impaired

[@johnwinters2815]

IMHO, the dispatch lady almost sounded like she wasn't interested one bit.

[@mikebond6328]

That seems common. I wonder if they get desensitized over time or wall up their emotions to deal with the trauma of the job.

[@riftvallance2087]

Police also seemed not to care .

[@ir0n392]

I think I heard somewhere that they are trained to have a monotoned sound when talking as to not make the caller even more upset/emotional

[@jasontodd8071]

John, that first cop was just as bad!

[@riftvallance2087]

@@ir0n392 Wasn't the tone that bothered me. It's when they said the cop would know if its an old accident. Like what? It's like they were coming up with excuses to not investigate

[@audreymuzingo933]

This one is WAYYYY weirder to me than a typical 411 case. Out in the middle of nowhere, OF COURSE there are all kinds of ways to die. But THIS? This was beyond bizarre.

[@damonroberts7372]

It sounds like Lindsay was already disoriented when she started driving (away from her stated destination), and the circumstances of the crash itself sound like she was unconscious at the wheel. If Lindsay was fatigued, she could've had a "microsleep" while driving. It's also possible she had some sort of seizure - even if she had no history of epilepsy, there's a first time for everything. Epilepsy affects over 1 in 50 people, and the incidence of isolated seizures (that don't result in a formal diagnosis) is much higher. If Lindsay was concussed after the crash (and I think that's pretty likely), that's not necessarily going to be evidenced by gross head trauma at autopsy. So I think there are potentially lots of reasons for odd behavior in this case besides hypothermia. She probably did it all in a blackout state, clear toxicology screen notwithstanding.

[@Taz6688]

She could have been suffering from petit mal seizures, it might account for going in the wrong direction, I don't know if there would be any evidence to support that, it seems not much effort was put in to finding anyone in the first place or what happened to them afterwards, very sad case.

[@burtknighten1873]

@@Taz6688 grand Mal would make more sense to me. Cause her muscles to stiffen, hence why the accelerator was stuck. Seizure was the first thing I thought of too. I have epilepsy though so cognitive bias maybe.

[@redskies8269]

These are the types of mysterious cases I enjoy. Great story

[@nfthero4280]

This channel is blowing up. Well deserved and not surprising.

[@highwaydaytime7669]

I think she thought they were both on fire from the crash. She strip herself and her daughter and ran from the car. Did a stop and roll and passed out and died of exposure.

[@skyking4501]

That!!!! Is a very good possibility. Never thought of that,

[@herstoryanimated]

Strange that none of the houses heard this. From the car crashes I've heard, they are really loud and distinctive noises, especially at that time of night when it should've been fairly quiet.

[@AmandaPanda83]

I have experienced “unintentional acceleration” and let me tell you it’s absolutely terrifying. Both times I was able to successfully pull the accelerator back up by putting my right foot under the accelerator, also had to use left on the brakes as I was on the interstate and the car was going over 100 mph in one of the instances. I have also seen an old van experience this right before my eyes at a much lower speed, thank goodness it wasn’t too bad when he wrecked. But it sure was a sight because I am sitting waiting to go across a one lane bridge, and here comes this big van and I see it still accelerating and going right in front of me only to crash into the side of the mountain. This was probably 30 mph, that’s only reason it wasn’t much worse. While we find evidence of this unintentional acceleration by nature of the path the car took, and the shoe under the accelerator, other things just don’t seem to quite fit at the same time. LE completely dropped the ball and I find the husband a little suspicious. I wonder if her family backed up the husband’s story, did they have any idea she was supposed to be coming over? I don’t mean to be disrespectful to him, but it does give pause because I don’t know really any mothers not on drugs or mentally stable, to take their one year old out after 11pm unless it’s an emergency. This is definitely tragic, just the loss of one life, but to also have your barely one year old daughter die, I can’t imagine. But I do feel they deserved a better investigation.

[@sophie4636]

Regarding this being a singular case of paradoxical undressing of another person, I can explain that. As a parent, you are totally aware that your baby overheating is deadly- babies die when they get too hot and you are so aware of it. As a mother of a baby, every fibre of your being is devoted to your baby's care and wellbeing and no matter what is going on their needs are paramount. The whole of evolution has programmed this for our species' survival. You also know that babies overheat at far lower temperatures than adults, so if a mother was at the stage of paradoxical undressing of hypothermia, your first instinct would be to strip your baby first to cool her down. Homestly, as a mother, you might be half dead yourself, but you'd still use every last iota of your being to try to ensure your baby was ok. She was being a good mama doing her best. Its heartbreaking. Rest in peace 🙏 💔💔

[@The_Defiant_One]

Where was she REALLY going? If she was really going to her parents, why didn't they call husband/police when she didn't show? Her cell phone call records would be interesting. Maybe she called the person/place she was really driving to before she left. Boyfriend? Picking up surprise gift for husband? Was this a case of road rage? Was she running away from an aggressive driver, and crashed? Would make sense as to why she was in an area off course. The curious mind wonders...

[@triciasomogyi5431]

Maybe this was before cell phones.

[@chasemedsker]

Also: why did the 1 year old kid also have her clothes missing? Just like Lindsay. Makes no sense if hypothermia was the cause.

[@The_Defiant_One]

@@chasemedsker It is believed a mother will assume her child is suffering from the same weather related ailment as herself and act accordingly.

[@foxtrot2317]

Here's theory focusingon clarity and adding some common abduction theory elements: **Theory:** Some missing persons cases, particularly those involving vehicles found crashed or abandoned, could be the result of alien abductions gone wrong. Victims may be abducted while driving and later returned to their vehicles, disoriented, injured, and with no memory of the event. This confusion could lead to them driving erratically and crashing, or wandering off in a daze, unable to seek help or recall what happened. Or perishing as they did in this case. **In the context of Missing 411 Enigma:** This theory could apply to cases where: * **The vehicle is found crashed or abandoned with no obvious explanation.** * **Personal belongings are left untouched, suggesting a sudden departure.** * **Witnesses report seeing strange lights or objects in the area around the time of the disappearance.** * **The missing person is later found disoriented or confused, with no memory of the event.** ***Or; The missing person are found deceased. Sometimes not found at all.** **Applying it to the young woman and her child:** It's possible they experienced an alien abduction during their drive. Upon return to their car: * The trauma and disorientation could have led to the crash. * Injuries sustained during the abduction might have contributed to their inability to seek help. * Memory suppression, a common theme in abduction accounts, could explain the lack of recollection. **Further Points:** * This theory aligns with the strange and often unexplainable nature of Missing 411 cases. * It could provide an alternative explanation for disappearances in areas where traditional searches have been unsuccessful. **Note:** While this theory offers a potential explanation, it's essential to consider all possibilities and approach such topics with a critical and discerning mind.

[@RoldanRR00]

After traveling such a long way from the start of the crash, it appears she hit the tree with significant force. The pedal must have been stuck as had happened to many other people with this same vehicle. It's hard to believe nothing else major played a role in their deaths, but there is no evidence proving otherwise. Another story I read stated the abrasions on both of them were "minor". The pedal getting stuck would have been the catalyst of an unfortunate chain of events leading to their untimely death. RIP

[@stefanjoseph900]

You believe the hypothermia theory?

[@RoldanRR00]

@@stefanjoseph900 It's not a theory. The coroner listed hypothermia as the cause of death for both of them. What evidence leads you to another conclusion?

[@stefanjoseph900]

@@RoldanRR00 I believe hypothermia was most likely cause of death. I guess my question was, what do you find strange about what happened?

[@RoldanRR00]

If you look at the series of events individually they do raise suspicion, but when you take them all together it paints a clearer picture. Their clothing being removed is the most unsettling, but it is addressed along with the cause of death. I can't help but think if a third party was involved, their wounds would have been way more severe. Especially after they were no longer wearing clothes. Just my two cents based on the little information I could gather.

[@am2023]

Thanks man I am really happy to do chores while watching your videos have a good one

[@jerichothirteen1134]

The "paradoxical undressing" only occurs during hypothermia. Its is a term specifically associated. So unless someone is suffering from all the other symptoms of hypothermia then taking off all their clothes is not paradoxical undressing. its highly suspicious that coroners would use it to support a finding of hypothermia when they surely have more solid methods of determination. Not to mention the number of cases in which the missing individual has taken their clothes off in circumstances which there is little to no likelyhood of hypothermia. Its not hypothermia. Its an indication that we live in a false constructed reality. They are just left like garbage. Meters from houses and businesses. They suffered great trauma. No one could help them. They died. Whoever did it is beyond our power to give retribution. We ignore that fact because its too frightening. And instead start to make up ridiculous stories to comfort each other.

[@bleedblue9657]

Have you any theories to what or who done this to them? Very strange goings on in this world we live on

[@jerichothirteen1134]

@@bleedblue9657 we are not the most intelligent or powerful species on this planet. There are many deliberately misguided assumptions about the nature of reality and the physical geography of this planet.

[@jerichothirteen1134]

Have you ever thought about the "Mongol Empire"? Largest empire ever on Earth. Ruled two thirds of the globe. Not one road, book, statue, building, artwork...not even a brick as physical evidence. Mongolian people have no folklore or history of Ghengis Khan. So where does the story come from? It was produced as the result of a competition held by the Russian Czar. The people needed an explanation for the history and origins of the regularly invading hordes and could not be told the truth. So the Czar held a competition to see who could come up with the best alternate explanation. The Mongolian story was the winner.

[@Wasteland88]

@@jerichothirteen1134 That is the biggest bunch of crap. Go hit that pipe again.

[@jerichothirteen1134]

@@Wasteland88 you are an obect of pride to your programmers. Responding within expected parameters.

[@glxssy8037]

You make the perfect videos with so much information with the best (and sad) cases that are super odd. Very interesting. Love everything you upload!

[@coyohti]

Regarding a potential head injury: A concussion can occur without any actual impact or outward damage to the skull. It's possible almost everyone watching this video has suffered some level of concussion at some point in their life. Something like whiplash or a hard knock (like being tackled in a contact sport) can cause a concussion that may at the time just have left your head spinning for a moment. It's entirely possible that the coroner (or whomever conducted the autopsy) did not open the skull to check for damage. I'm also unsure if a single concussion leaves noticeable damage (repetitive head injuries, like those sustained by American football players will leave evidence). I believe, and please correct me if I'm wrong, that a coroner will look mainly just for the *cause* of death. In this case, the cause of death was hypothermia. Upon determining cause of death it might have been felt unnecessary to open the skull. This decision might depend on factors like how thorough the coroner is or the wishes of the family. If they didn't open the skull the only thing they could reliably report upon would be any outward sign of trauma to the skull which could explain why they reported no trauma.

[@warrenSPQRXxl]

I posted above. In the living patient, it takes a special sequence MRI to see changes from a concussion. Her head did not have to hit the windshield for a concussion. An autopsy could show no changes. The autopsy was done by a medical examiner not a coroner. It would be customary to examine the brain but without the actual report we cannot tell.

[@coyohti]

@@warrenSPQRXxl Thanks for your reply and the correction regarding who did the autopsy!

[@warrenSPQRXxl]

@@coyohti In many jurisdictions the coroner does not have to even be a doctor. Where I live he is elected and just happens to be a nurse. The body is turned over to a pathologist who actually does the autopsy and makes the findings. Our coroner will then with great ado announce the findings at a press conference

[@OCRay1]

They didn’t analyze the blood looking stains or have the car checked for the brake problems? That is mind blowing to me.

[@lmzaadi]

New subscriber ❤ Thanks for creating

[@kathyhall6434]

Wouldn't you have to be driving extremely fast to go through barriers and two fences then get airborne and still go through a big pasture and slam into a tree? Was she being chased? Did she leave home mad? Did the shoe make the accelerator stick? Was someone else in the back seat? Seems she was running scared...even went the wrong way. Something not right here.

[@illig4912]

There's the possibility of a faulty accelerator, which would explain a lot.

[@illig4912]

@@shirleysmith6131 A baby

[@illig4912]

@@shirleysmith6131 Then no there wasn't another person. Just her and her child.

[@tessaducek5601]

It was stated the accelerator may have been stuck. Explaining the shoe under the pedal.

[@PrimateProductions]

@@shirleysmith6131 maybe it was aliens

[@jessehutchings]

That intro guitar creeps me TF out every time

[@cevichegrace]

Something about it screams single woman being chased in a car. Maybe her brakes failed, and the chaser either fled or stuck around, causing her intense panic upon awakening. Coupled with shock and hypothermia, it feels like it could explain the strange actions taken upon exiting the car

[@goatsandroses4258]

Wow. Gives real confidence in 911. A farmer out tending to his cows is more concerned. Amazing that the family apparently never brought this case to court for some type of redress.

[@emalie8358]

Love your videos!!

[@TheFalconking]

"Oh, look, red stains in the clothing.... let´s investigate that... Nah, I´m sure is nothing, let´s not. Oh, ok " case closed. Great police work !!!

[@rockstarofredondo]

“Oh, here’s a car that crashed through several fences, obviously had an infant in it at some point, and a lady called 911 concerned. It’s fine though, I’ll just leave this crash scene as-is and go eat muh donuts.”

[@dgonthehill]

love mysteries, thnx

[@RamblinJer]

30+ years with E-911 and EMS. Worst thing anyone can do is assume. If you come across a situation or scene call 911 regardless of what you "think".

[@joshhacker8503]

A new video after I get out of work is an unexpected treat! Thanks for another excellent vid! Keep up the great work!

[@JohnSmith-eg3jg]

If you have cheap Winter gear it makes you colder once the temperature is low enough

[@mikebond6328]

They didn’t have any gear.

[@JohnSmith-eg3jg]

Gear or regular clothes get real cold really quick

[@laneyroper9639]

This case drives me insane. I live in Fort Worth, a few minutes from where this happened and have been this way more times than I know. The police in Fort Worth are well liked and generally have a decent reputation when it comes to police work (not my opinion.) Nothing about this makes sense, and they did not investigate hard enough. There’s so little available on this case too.

[@riddell26]

This is horrible

[@ObviousRises]

Judging by the accident itself sounds like a seizure. Unfortunately she was not found.

[@SFforlife]

Incredibly sad and distressing. Hard to watch. I can’t even fathom going through this. So many questions. What happened? Why did they walk away instead of towards town? Feel so bad for the entire family especially the poor child.

[@queenisrael8158]

I really injoy how he tell these strange stories cause he get down to details!

[@SplitSauce2289]

This one is strange. No head trauma. Clean toxicology report. What the heck?

[@xntumrfo9ivrnwf]

Does anyone know if any cows got out before the farmer had a chance to fix the fence?!?!

[@pillsnpiegaming]

Ok heres the thing with japanese knives that makes them valuable to a japanese chef, each knife is made by a professional personally for that chef its about the craft and dedication to the artistry and high quality of japanese chef knives. if its not made in japan its probably not a japanese sushi/chefs knife. some japanese chefs literally fly to japan to have their knives made if they work or live in other countries, the knife makers are masters at their craft as much care as is put into making a katana is put into making a chef blade in japan. trying to equate mass produced trash to true craftsmanship is quite insulting.

[@BeetleBuns]

yea, these are chinese fakes made with shit steel and produced in a factory. What a scam.

[@mikeworkman3593]

Just found your channel by accident, subbed and belled. IDK how old your channel is but surprised that you dont have more subs, At least you're getting sponsors I LOVE the artwork. Reminds me of the creepier drawings they used for the reworked UM episodes when it went into syndication. I was also just thinking of the Blair Witch Project movie and its many copy cats. I feel like with the new tech in the last 10 years, having HD video in out pockets, soon we will actually have literal found footage. I think about the those 2 girls found in Panama, and the pics on their phones, if only they had recorded some video with audio to explain what was happening.

[@bryanmontello5702]

You're right, the knocked out theory has too many holes in it. I have found these cases most bizarre. As I have been fascinated by these strange and total lack of any type of sense seems to be lost by the individuals. I keep going back to what her husband said. Where was she going? Obviously something made her decide to go the opposite direction?

[@jason3tears]

Love your channel and love your content. But Kakimoto is well known to be a scam company… Ads in your vids are understandable but would prefer actually reputable companies for such a respectable channel

[@travisn346]

Global Cutlery makes great knives.

[@BeetleBuns]

I've been noticing a few youtubers taking scam knife sponsors like kamikoto and huusk. Absolute garbage being peddled by otherwise decent creators, it really damages their reputation.

[@hectordelacruz5222]

May they R.I.P 🙏

[@ftf1987]

Nothing adds up. Listening to some dispatchers reminds me of when I was an EMT and how long some in these "emergency" services take. We operated within 30 minutes of a renowned hospital and most of the crew wanted to ego stroke and play doctor for 15-20 minutes rather than load , go, and figure things out on the way. The second time I had to do CPR for over 20 minutes in the back of the bus because we wasted 30 at the scene...I quit.

[@themythhunter9764]

Very sad that the driver and first cop didn't investigate. I think the throttle theory is most probable theory. Suffered head injury than hypothermia. Just would like to mention that my Aurora's throttle stuck two different times on the interstate and the way I was able to take it out was to push the gas pedal all the way to the floor which released it. Hopefully no one needs this tip!

[@buckberthod5007]

12:00 You talk about the accelerator pedal getting stuck. Well in this photo, I don't even see a gas pedal. There's the E brake, the regular brake, but no gas pedal. There is however what looks like the arm of the pedal, look at the upper right hand corner of the brake pedal, you'll see a little black rod hanging down where the pedal should be. It's broken, right at the end of it, and there's no pedal in frame I can see to indicate it fell on the floor. There's some broken plastic pieces, but that'd be from the dash, not the pedal. There's also 2 drip marks on the side of the center console (far left side of the screen) but don't look like fresh blood trails, but could be dried or could even just be coffee or soda. Given there was over 12 hours from when she left at 130pm, till the 911 call at 9am the next day, and there being no external injuries, and given where she was supposedly going with the baby, I think I've got 2 theories about what could have happened. (1) She went that way because maybe she was going to a gas station, food, something along those lines for her and the kid. Pedal broke, sent her through the field and pasture. She struck the tree, sustained a serious concussion, had severe brain bleeding and confusion, and the 500 yard sprint might have been her undoing. I don't have an explanation for her undressing herself and her kid. Seems to me someone in such an unrational state of mind might have forgotten she even had a baby, and just took off out of the car. (2) Did the husband think she was cheating, or they had a serious argument and that's when she decided to go to her parents and leave him? With her being found with scratches and scrapes, maybe he had beat her up, he chased her down, forced her off the road and smothered them, then placed the bodies there, maybe undressing her to have his final way with her? Or (3) Maybe a random person forced her off the road, assaulted both her and the kid, strangled them, then discarded the bodies? There's no good way of telling of what happened, but something happened that wasn't normal

[@TheMissingEnigma]

Interesting analysis. I saw the same thing you did regarding the accelerator, or seeming lack thereof. The statement of the shoe being lodged beneath the accelerator came straight from the police report. But I agree there seems to be a difference between what the report says and what the photos show.

[@buckberthod5007]

@@TheMissingEnigma Really makes me wonder if this wasn't premeditated, or a case of postpartum depression. But it still doesn't explain everything. With the length of time she was there, who knows how many people tampered with it. Not only that, but the shoddy investigation work done by the PD, including the first officer leaving the area and not doing anything about the accident, means there's lack of evidence. Not only that, but why would the drivers door be wide open but all the others closed. She thought to close the door after getting her kid out, but not her own door? Or she turned 180° in the car to unbuckle her and take her out, which wouldn't make sense if she was delirious enough to strip nude in the cold. I hate to be that guy, but I'd highly suspect the husband of having to do something with it. There is a hospital 5 minutes from the Coffee Apts, which is in the direction she was headed. Maybe she was going to get checked out, file a domestic report on her husband, and he wasn't having it so he killed them, crashed her car then planted the bodies? But even that seems like a hell of a stretch, with the only piece I see being the husband saying she was going to her parents (with the kid?) to be closer for work. It's a very common theme for abused women to go back to there mothers. But it's still a stretch. But I will say, maybe it's possible a random person forced her off the road, drug her our of the car, assaulted her, smothered her, then did the same to the kid. He drug them away so they wouldn't be found easy. With the amount of people who had been in and around the scene at that point, after the 9am, the scene would be so contaminated that you'd have a hard time finding evidence, and if there's no suspicion of sexyal abuse, then the ME wouldn't think to check for that. He's dealing with a car crash victim. What made me slightly suspicious is, the ME said he's seen it several other times. I'd like to know about those cases, when they occurred, what the circumstances where, because this could just simply be a case of a serial killer. Granted, you could consider this all a stretch but it's the logical conclusions I can draw up given the information presented.

[@mikebond6328]

The me said he had only seen it a couple times.

[@buckberthod5007]

@@mikebond6328 Like I said it's a far stretch, but even if he'd only seen it 2-3 times before, that still don't dispute the potential (no matter how low the probability is) that this is the work of a killer

[@riftvallance2087]

@@buckberthod5007 When I see cases with evidence that don't make sense or improbable causes of death I'm more inclined to believe that the police themselves are trying to hide something.

[@83piwo]

There are so many things wrong with that case. Why did she end up in the ditch on a straight road? Why didn't she stop earlier? Why did she undress her baby? If she hadn't any head trauma, why did she walk in the wrong direction. Even when she was confused by the accident, she must have seen the lights of the Street and houses!

[@reesedaniel5835]

There is an unknown factor in this case that, without the knowledge of this factor, we will probably not find out what really happened.

[@rebeccalove9169]

This story is very fishy from the beginning. I'm a mom and the entire story doesn't make sense. If she had a brain injury the medical examiner would of found it. And the cops dropped the ball so bad. I think there was a third party involved. But all the scratches on them, undressing, location of bodies is just weird. So tragic I hope the family finds answers.

[@puppiesarepower3682]

💅🤦

[@edwardbrown4311]

Glad you are up uploading more often

[@HIGHER7RUTH]

Paradoxical undresing is something only silly human beans beLIEve.

[@reesedaniel5835]

Yes it's another convenient "Official Story" our "authorities" give us when they don't want us to know the truth.

[@HIGHER7RUTH]

@@reesedaniel5835 Reminds me of the professional biker who started undressing and neatly folding his stuff till his friends cought up to him and woke him. The enchanting water noise he heard turn into a growl when he snap out of it. Many people vanish cuss their body's are hacked so clear to me. Some kind of advance hypnosis if you ask me.✌️

[@MutedGrowl]

This is my new favorite channel.

[@jessicadarlin6893]

Very Strange Case I’ve never heard this one before

[@trppytoes9605]

GHB doesn't show up on drug toxicology reports and it is the date r4pe drug

[@DaimyoD0]

GHB does appear on drug toxicology reports, you just have to be looking for it because it is naturally occurring in the human body. I'm pretty sure there's actually a video on this channel where "normal levels of GHB" were discussed on a toxicology report.

[@trppytoes9605]

@@DaimyoD0 it decays at a rapid pace as well. I'm not exactly sure about all of this to be honest with you.

[@DougShoeBushcraft]

Another excellent video. My guess is that she had limited vision. The scratches could mean she had been walking through those bushes (I think I see) but then maybe heard road noise and turned around and headed back. Maybe also she been knocked out by the air bag or the crash itself. I wonder if the doctor actually looked for a head injury. I mean- did he examine her brain? I know something about air bags. It's an explosive and can easily cause a head injury. They are set up for tall people, so short people can be more at risk.

[@matthewhiebert694]

Love these videos man, very interesting and scary stuff.

[@Schwarzkald]

Is probable that through her confusion, she walk with the baby through the bushes, causing the scratches, then turned around to where there were no bushes, where she finally died from hypothermia.

[@karenc4544]

Many of these mysteries begin with poor police work. Possible: car malfunction, panic, she was distracted, had a sudden medical problem, swerved to avoid something and hit gas instead of brake. Could be many things. The really interesting thing to me is why she was going the opposite direction of where she said she was going? That seems significant. What caused that? I assume there wasn’t anything about the police speaking to her parents? It seems like a really shoddy investigation.

[@jxn1056]

I absolutely love your channel! I've been watching ever since Steve Stockton introduced you ❤

[@corrieshepard9620]

So crazy Hank Hill called....

[@CCCC-lq7te]

Wow. So many questions. Why didn’t the cop set up a search perimeter? Especially with baby in tow, you don’t have to have blood to have a slight head concussion . If she was leaving for her parents house at 1130pm , why didn’t the parents call the husband or police? Unless she was lying or took a detour? Great episode , great work, love your channel.

[@greenbeenie2]

I was a deputy for several yrs. In my opinion, paradoxical undressing NEVER has happened to someone else, and before I would even consider this as an issue, how dam cold did it get there??????????????/ I do not believe it was cold enough for paradoxical undressing to even occur.....this has "foul play" STAMPED ALL OVER THIS IN BIG RED LETTERS

[@joshcantrell8397]

I live right down the road from those apartments

[@totokingkong1]

It was probably dark, very dark and she was in a State of panic, her baby daughter crying. She probably walked in circles until she passed out from cold and exhaustion.

[@Tryreading]

I know this is a random comment- but the knives that sponsored the video, they take a couple years per knife so when they started out they had to sit on all operating costs for TWO YEARS just to be able to sell their product, and then I’m sure many more to turn a profit. Just my random thoughts… cool story’s though bro, I think I’ve binged them all in the last month or so. It’s weird how calming your voice can make people feel even while tackling such emotional and tragic cases. It’s a gift man. 👍🏽👍🏽

[@Clintcellington]

Could've had a seizure and caused the crash. My wife had a seizure once and was totally weird acting. When we went to the doctors they said it's not unusual to have one in your lifetime and as long as it doesn't happen again then your fine. My wife has never had another one.

[@rockstarofredondo]

Did the clothes have that airbag powder on them maybe and that’s why she wanted to remove them? Such a strange case.

[@skyking4501]

Damn good question!!!!😊

[@MS-du1jf]

💖 this channel.

[@agnowing7974]

is this possibly the result of a carjacking? maybe she crashed the car deliberately to escape and that dint work? then maybe she was forced to undress herself and her daughter then tried to escape again , outrunning her pursuer in the bushes for some time sustaining the scratches. then the carjacker left and by that time she had succumbed to the temperatures? this would explain why she was driving in the opposite direction of her parents because the carjacking began at her residence.

[@eeelorde9962]

Then why did went in all of fences and the tree?????

[@journeysalkebulan]

Strange and sad case! 😔