A Casual Drink With a THORM? - Baldur's Gate 3 CO-OP Part 43

[@shinyarceus997]

Tip: You asked whether there was a filter for bonus actions and there actually is one, on the hotbar to the left of your spell slots if you see those icons, those are actually indicators of what you can do during the turn, for example, Halsin has an action (green circle), bonus action (orange triangle), wild shape (green paw). If you click on those it will actually show you what you can do with them so if you click on the orange triangle it will show you everything you can use with your bonus action including any items that can be used with one. This can also be done with your spell slots so if you click the icon for level 3 spells it will show all of your level 3 spells including what ones can be upcast.

[@ChristopherOdd]

I love this thanks!

[@Rhadagar]

Just a little reminder you succeeded on perception rolls to see a bunch of plaques on a statue in the town square between the mason’s guild and this place.

[@XFizzlepop-Berrytwist]

Haste is such an amazing spell. Best to apply it early at a start of a combat, if combat is going to be a long fight. Def can save the day. XD Also there is a filter for bonus actions. The tiny triangle at the top of your action bar is all bonus actions if you click it, the one next to the spell slots, and the tiny paw. The tiny circle is all actions. 47:00 it does show your character moving. XD Funny moment though.

[@sloporion]

Also, if you gather your party in a tight circle and throw a Potion of Haste (or whatever it's called) onto the ground in between them, it will cause the affect in an AoE. Same thing works with a healing potion. Also, if you throw a potion at a character and hit them with the bottle, it can deal damage, AND the damage triggers before the heal goes off. This is especially important if trying to throw a healing potion at a dying character. If you hit them with it, it will give them a failed death saving throw, because they took damage while dying. So, if they already have 2 failed saving throws, you can actually kill them by trying to heal them.

[@XFizzlepop-Berrytwist]

@@sloporion I dont really get how the throwing potion thing works? Like sometimes it seems like it doesnt heal a character at all, other times it does.

[@sloporion]

@kay8487 yeah, it's super iffy I wish there was just a use/apply potion button instead of having to rely on throwing it

[@soulmaster846]

I know I am months late on this comment lol. Loving watching you two through this journey. I have a tip for all the BG3 players that are reading this. It is worth the time to organize your hotbar, so you'll be presented with a clear idea of your options. This will help you not feel overwhelmed by information overload. So I like to first expand my hotbar space to four rows (the plus key on the right of the bar). Then assign each row with a category of skills. First row will be my most used skills like attack, etc. Second row will be like single target offensive spells like fire blast. Third row would be AOE spells. Fourth row would be support like healing spells, potions, etc. Y'all can develop your own system, but the key is to be organized. I hope this helps anyone!

[@boerboelmummy5075]

Thank you gentlemen, I'm really enjoying this series.

[@berickslime6718]

I feel like running two driuds is something that's holding you back. It's like halsin, is a downgraded version of dark urge and doesn't offer much more enhanced utility. Just my opinion though. Btw this is the longest letsplay series I have ever watched cannot believe I stuck around for 40+ episodes. New fan!

[@LucklessLovelocks]

I agree. We're mainly keeping Halsin in because he fits with the story here. Also so happy you're loving it and we're not even half way it feels like haha

[@thisishowitallends9321]

Nah, it's cause Odd can barely play one druid, let alone 2

[@Sellinglobs]

For all of yours and LL's faults in observation or memory (everyone has them!) I absolutely love this playthrough and I am eagerly watching alongside my own playthrough. You guys take it very seriously and I commend your thorough immersion into the game world. I can't wait to see your actions and reactions to the end of Act 2 and coming into Act 3

[@LucklessLovelocks]

Thanks! Yeah it's a lot to take in especially when we were trying to get as many videos recorded as possible before Odd left for Germany. We're back at it tonight and I'm stoked. You're literally caught up to us at this point.

[@pndb2016]

It's fun to see different ways of handling boss fights like this. I sneak-attacked the zombie upstairs near the entrance, which triggered the fight to start, without even speaking to Thisobald. When I saw that mass of flesh running toward me, I took off out of the tavern and hid. This put Thisobald out in the open. I then snuck up behind him and set down ten smokepowder barrels, and lit them off from a safe distance. That took out about half his hit points. Finished him off with a mess of force damage from Gale's magic missiles and Wyll's eldritch blasts. Never even knew that he could get drunk and pass out.

[@JaMaAuWright]

A lesson learned with the thorn spell. Always check your damage type before you cast! No such thing as neutral damage, every damage has a type. On that note, take a closer look at Ice Knife's damage, as it deals about half it's damage as cold damage, and the other half as piercing damage. Some enemies have resistance to both physical AND magical sources of damage, which are indicated if you hover over that resistance in their character sheet. That said, given that you're on Tactician difficulty, it's still an impressive win.

[@LucklessLovelocks]

Can you explain to me exactly how that boss worked. We're still pretty confused. I understand that we powered up his brew with whatever element we cast. How exactly did that effect him and why did he eventually throw up on us to make himself weak.

[@JaMaAuWright]

@@LucklessLovelocks So the throwing up thing happens regardless of what you do after he's had a drink enough times, it's just a mechanic that's there because otherwise, that much HP with his total immunity to physical damage would just not be reasonable for the level he shows up at. It's very difficult to defeat him without that self imposed debuff unless you have an extremely specific magic focused strategy. The elemental empowerment just makes it so that his next big attack will be of whatever element you hit him with. Then, he starts to hallucinate, spawning a creature which I'm faaaiiirly sure is always of the opposite element of whatever you hit him with but I'm not certain on that. That's what that little ice creature was. You guys actually dodged a bullet by not hitting him with multiple elements at once, it makes it so his big brew attack is much more dangerous.

[@LucklessLovelocks]

Ah ok. Thanks! It was not easy to figure out if we were doing something to cause the throw up or it just happened@@JaMaAuWright

[@JaMaAuWright]

@@LucklessLovelocks No problem man. Usually if any enemy's condition has something important that's causing it the condition will mention it in its description. As an example, Odd actually pointed out that the turn before he passed out he had the "Profoundly Intoxicated" status, which read "Thisobald is on the verge of passing out from his heavy drinking". Usually these status descriptions are very deliberate and not just there for flavor reasons. Keeping an eye on the conditions actively affecting a boss will be very important as the game progresses, as often times the game doesn't state the mechanics of a boss fight outright. Looking forward to seeing you guys continue!

[@LucklessLovelocks]

Absolutely!@@JaMaAuWright

[@Kristi543]

Hehe the ending shove is so me. 😅 ❤ you guys are great I am so excited and ready for more episodes.

[@nikk345]

Hey just a tip, in my experience creatures with Undead Fortitude don't exactly need to be finished by radiant or crit damage. It just means that if they are taken below 1 HP without it being radiant or crit damage, they survive with 1 HP, but only for one time. After that they can be killed normally.

[@thisishowitallends9321]

Odd is like one trick pony with his Thorns and Animal Form. Casts Thorns - remembers it doesn't affect Thorm - doesn't immediately drop the concentration, so Karlach is the only one taking damage. This is hard to watch. But also hilarious

[@DaveAtHJ]

Maybe you've figured this out at this point, but still worth stating how resistances work. There are two types of weapon damage: non-magical (mundane), and magical. Both of those have all the piercing/bludgeoning/slashing variants. Enemies that are resistant to non-magical weapon damage will halve incoming damage from normal, unenchanted weapons and such, but magical weapons and things like the upgraded druid form can overcome that resistance. This is what Odd is thinking of. But enemies can also be resistant to magical weapon damage, which means they'll halve ALL incoming damage from piercing/bludgeoning/slashing, whether the source is magical or not. The tooltip will have separate paragraphs for both if you hover over the resistance in the Examine window.

[@SuprColossal]

this game is amazing, iv done almost everything you have yet had completely different outcomes. i got lucky with the drinking game, this fight seems like a doozy!

[@jephfry7775]

ayo not that it had a huge affect on the fight, but once you bring those undead with "undead fortitude" down to 0 once, the fortitude goes away and you don't need a crit or radiant damage to finish them off.

[@ChristopherOdd]

Oh nice I don’t think we registered that 😂

[@JaMaAuWright]

@@ChristopherOdd Yeah, it happened once to one of the undead, but it's easy to miss when there's a massive drunken hippo centaur zombie threatening to crush you lmao.

[@timoking]

@christopherodd you are one of my favorite youtubers! I just wanted to take a moment to say thank you for all the 100's of hours of great content that you have put out there. I love your style of games and it's always hilarious watching how you narate things and talk us through your thoughts! Thanks a mil! Huge fan! Ps: I have been binging this series of videos 43 hours deep. 😂

[@sloporion]

Also, the Primal Weapons or whatever it's called that makes your attacks overcome damage reduction is only for the resistances that say "by non-magical weapons". Examples of that would be things like werewolves or some undead like shades or vampires. The things you were looking at just had flat damage reduction, like Karlach does when she rages. It just reduces the damage type, regardless of the kind of attack.

[@LucklessLovelocks]

It seems to be a major point of confusion out there.

[@sloporion]

@LucklessLovelocks yeah, it's definitely worded badly. I only knew it ahead of time because that's how it works in 5e D&D.

[@RayOfDia]

Odd's fear of using ice knife will never not surprise me

[@pbsixgun6]

Completely forgetting that the ice mephit was giving cold resistance.

[@ChristopherOdd]

I usually wanna use it on somebody that’s engaged sand it has AOE damage right?

[@JaMaAuWright]

@@ChristopherOdd It has aoe damage in a circle, but like fireball the circle is visible before you cast the spell. Where you're targeting on the enemy actually does matter for this aoe effect, as if it hits a side of the enemy that's far enough away from one of your allies, it's possible to keep them out of the aoe effect.

[@ChristopherOdd]

@@JaMaAuWright will keep a close eye in the future!

[@slowlypoorly]

Odd: "I'm really worried 'cause you're on fire" sound like he's a little JEALOUS

[@ItheauthorityI]

I stealth attacked one of the undead because I thought they were just ordinary enemies. I didn't even notice the boss's last name lmao.

[@michellel3968]

This one was a little awkward for a moment. I really think Luckless should stop listening to Odd lol like running away on Karlach because he was “weak”?? Luckless seems to have the better understanding of the game tbh so he should just trust his instincts and dish out that monster damage like he always does

[@LucklessLovelocks]

I think there are times where we have good suggestions for the other person and then there's some times where we should do our own thing as we know how best to use our characters at this point. I like hearing what Odd's thinking and taking it into account. I do agree that in this case I ended up not doing the right thing as I wasn't really going with either of our plans because I was freaking tiiiired after a loooong couple of weeks of recording.

[@Kristi543]

I thought the same about that @michellel3968

[@DocDoesGamingTV]

Absolutely amazing, you guys just keep pulling through!

[@scottchadburn1535]

Love this series, bravo 👏🏻 good luck in Germany 👍🏻

[@ChristopherOdd]

Thanks! 😃

[@JoeyWillsher]

The very very under darkest - land of shadows and critical misses

[@nazgul37]

glyph of warding is a good nuke spell. It takes effect immediately if cast upon enemies

[@JoshuaVTrinity]

In case no one said this. Undead fortitude only works once. You can kill them with any type of damage, it’s just easier with radiant and crits.

[@Jewelsonn]

In back the under dark, where you fought the machine bots in the tower with turrets, there is a Stool in the upper floor where robots were, if you break it, it drops a weapon which gives you 19 str. It's not great, but maybe it can be equipped in the off-hand for benefits. Idk if you already grabbed it or not. Just saying because I think you guys might not go back.

[@davidwhitfield6025]

Bad luck on Thisobold. Almost made it. I had Astarion in the lead so he ended up in the drinking contest. Sleight of hand was easy but performance I wasted all my inspirations to get through. He explodes if you get him to drink enough so no fight which actually loses you some xp so maybe fighting him was better all round.

[@LucklessLovelocks]

Oh neat. Yeah it was a cool fight too so I'm kinda glad we failed.

[@davidwhitfield6025]

@@LucklessLovelocks Yep, I'm now kind of sad I succeeded, to far back now to retrace my steps. Enjoying your different approach, whether intentional or through the luck of the dice.

[@LucklessLovelocks]

@@davidwhitfield6025 well you never can tell what might happen with any given pass/fail. Just play like you want and maybe do something different on a second playthrough

[@srellison561]

Odd: I don't want to risk asking a question, because we may start a fight. Oops

[@jaym.g.5789]

Man i'm so glad I passed all the checks with my drinking buddy Thorm

[@tinyplays95]

This may be a dumb question, but what happens is you drink the Thorms concoction? Does it turn you into one of those Blighted things?

[@invisiblestoo]

At the end of this video, when Odd was desperately looking for ways to inflict the final damage, was anyone else just screaming “Move the Moonbeam”? Or was that just me?

[@pavelgrechnikov9069]

Would like to see how you use DIP action! There are so many variations with it if you use this in combat! 🤩

[@sloporion]

You forgot your breath weapon. Not sure how much damage it would've done, but it IS an option for magical damage.

[@dagiel9061]

Why do you object to turn undead against undead it also damages

[@ravipeiris4388]

It's amazing to see how luckless is still figuring out the game this far in.

[@LucklessLovelocks]

Coward

[@Spacecookie-]

Aah, the under-underdark.

[@taoin5560]

If you had casted haste on Karloch in round 1 that would have been much easier

[@NIGHTSTALKER0069]

Should have drank lol

[@rodmarker2071]

So let's see how long it takes for Odd to get irritated by Luckless LoL I say 11 mins in 🤣🤣🤣🤣👍👍 great vids guys.

[@ElysetheEevee]

Yeah, I'm a bit taken aback by his attitude, considering he's no expert himself.... He just comes off rude and condescending sometimes. I recall feeling the same on another co-op video he had, too. I don't hate him or anything, just a little irritating when he acts like that.

[@thatindiandude4602]

​@@ElysetheEeveeIt's a lot of speculation going in this thread. I mean, Luckless hyena cackle gets on my nerves too, but yo see armchair psychologists who diagnose most humans as narcissists have cropped up here too.

[@ChristopherOdd]

To be extremely clear, I’m never irritated with him. LL and I have known each other for like 7-8 years and have a really close friendship. We bicker and stuff like a married couple. We also are spending a significant amount of time together working on these videos so maybe it’s a heightened level of comfort we both get into with each other. Hope that helps with some of the speculating.

[@thatindiandude4602]

@@ChristopherOdd some of the armchair psychologists have been out of pocket.

[@blue_guitar4136]

@@ChristopherOdd I don't know... I mean, sure you've been friends for 7-8 years, but for a couple seconds he sounded pretty annoyed! Maybe you should get him a present! 😉

[@bane-bridge6641]

Never usually comment but loving this playthrough, I'd ask that you maybe really take a look at some your spells that maybe arent equiped cos you've got access some some great utility/damage dealers and halsin has some OP buff spells but either way great work pls keep it up!

[@ChristopherOdd]

LL did a sort of deep dive on our characters while I was travelling so maybe he’ll have picked up on a few things. Anything specific ?

[@bane-bridge6641]

@ChristopherOdd well your moonbeam upcasts are great but flaming sphere can work sorta like a distraction summon like spiritual weapon to take the heat off and deal some good damage, blight is great as well and ice storm, halsin (depending on the circle of land choice) gets acid arrow and vampirc touch and even lightning bolt which is quite reliable and his call lighting and then I've seen people already talking about haste but mirror image and blur can really help dodge some of those attacks to keep tanking for karlach but all that being said you done great with the tools you've got and alot in baldurs gate requires concentration so still difficult managing that ps. Hope the trip has gone well!

[@Tedger]

Feels like many streamers miss gauntlet of shar...

[@ilovepickles7427]

What a creative boss! These Thorm peeps need to die, and stat. Keep it up!

[@gg.youlubeatube6249]

you could cast "heal" on undead opponents to make damage.

[@LucklessLovelocks]

Or we could cast a damage spell that does more damage.

[@gg.youlubeatube6249]

@@LucklessLovelocks As you could noticed, the boss enemy was very immune to various dmg spells, or your spells make oponent even more deadly.

[@LucklessLovelocks]

Oh you're talking specifically about this boss. Yeah maybe that would be a good play here. To be honest we beat this boss without totally understanding how it worked.@@gg.youlubeatube6249

[@MacGuyver85]

Playlist is a bit out of order (as in it works but... you get the idea) :)

[@ChristopherOdd]

Hmm I just checked. What’s out of order?

[@simey5639]

​@@ChristopherOddnothing, I think

[@MacGuyver85]

@@ChristopherOdd Looks ok now 👍The last 3 were switched around.

[@chrisf84]

OMG WTF did it take 10 turns before you used Moonbeam with 2 Druids on the team for that bar fight. JFC this 40 hours of constant clown show is getting triggering.

[@Tebigong101]

It's so exhausting to watch them sometimes... you were going to lose the last time because you;d won the others and yet they still pushed their luck... I'm not even trying to be mean, but this is so frustrating to watch because it's not even about them making a thoughtful choice that I don't agree with they don't remember something or don't understand something obvious and fumble into a situation. Luckless is worse because he thinks he's funny but he's just selfish and careless.

[@LucklessLovelocks]

And yet you keep coming back. I think you love me. Admit it!

[@James-id7ok]

Odd, not my business dude but maybe ease off on Luckless. If it were me I would have said f$&k you, I quit. I enjoy your play through together and I really like your channel.

[@ChristopherOdd]

Thankfully LL and I are adults and we can handle the bickering pretty well.

[@LucklessLovelocks]

whoah whoah. I'm no adult. How dare you! @@ChristopherOdd

[@CheerupButtercup]

he is a man child lol@@LucklessLovelocks

[@Kristi543]

Just a climatic tense moment as all good tales have. ❤ I was on edge with it at first too, but Odd and Luck work well together and that's what make this video series so good . ❤

[@OldDog7212]

Free the Pixie!