A cheap TRULY REFILLABLE roller ball VS the Bic Cristal ball point

[@itzyaboiiash]

I've found him. The dankpod of pens. Love your content!

[@HelplessTeno]

I never expected to see a Dankpods reference on a random pen video. What a weird world.

[@Isissa125]

ayooooo

[@Zoevandyne]

Best channel for weird art nerds. I am one. And I love your videos.

[@mahoslash]

Doesn't matter, my work place and my sweaty hands were never friendly to water based ink so I still have to lean over to a good old ballpoint.

[@phantom498]

Are you left handed? I have extremely sweaty hands (I’ve been diagnosed with hyperhidrosis), and I haven’t experienced a lot of problems with water based ink pens. Maybe experiment with different pens? Also obviously the paper plays a role too, but if you’re at work you may have no say in that.

[@mahoslash]

@@phantom498 I'm right handed but the amount of hand sweat leaking out of my hands is close to the equivilant of a leaking faucet. I have to use a handkerchief under my hands just to deal with the problem. My doctor said he does not recommend surgery as the sweat will still have to go somewhere and from his past experience, patients usually will be expecting the sweat to be diverted to the buttocks. He said having sweaty hands is far better and easier to deal with than having a sweaty butt. And I'm with my doctor on this one.

[@phantom498]

@@mahoslash there are hormonal based topicals that shut down or minimize the production of the sweat glands. I’d look into them and maybe give them a try. There are tons of different solutions out there, if you really care to address the issue. Doesn’t anti persperiant just block the sweat glands? I’ve never heard of the claim that blocking sweat glands in the hands will cause the butt to sweat more. Not saying it is or isn’t true. I’ve spoken to 2-3 dermatologists and they never mentioned that.

[@SkepticalCaveman]

There are special fast drying fountain pen inks.

[@mahoslash]

@@SkepticalCaveman I gave up already, nothing can beat my leaking hands at this point.

[@iiisaac1312]

It looks like a lamy safari copy. Since there is metal on metal wear in the tip, it might be worthwhile looking into what kind of anti-wear additives go into water-glycol based hydraulic fluid. Hydraulic systems also have lots of metal parts that rub together. Propolene Glycol is a good choice for starters because it is one of the glycol bases for water-glycol hydraulic fluid (and it's non-toxic). Some additives you can look at are ZDDP, phosponates, polymers like PAG, and borate esters.

[@Stroggoii]

The trick with Chinese stuff is that China makes really high quality stuff... exclusively for the Chinese market. So yeah when you find a really good Chinese product, it's not a fluke. You were just not meant to have access to it.

[@chadmiesterDonovan]

Butchers sell water filled meat, gutter oil food, can't even drink tapped water so they buy bottled water, overpriced alcohol is the same as the cheap one but with different label, buildings and other structures breaking down within 5 years of construction, Electric cars that also function as an oven, fake greenery by spraying green paint on hills for propaganda, plastic rice, fake seafood, radioactive bricks which results in radioactive appartments, fake meat, ripping off Japanese brands securing investor funds then declaring bankruptcy. I can keep on going on. Anyone with a basic knowledge of China and Chinese culture would say the words china and good quality usually don't go together. There is famous saying in China if you can get away with it You can do it. But yes there are exceptions to this rule. I personally love my Jinhao and Wing Sung fountain pens. However exceptions doesn't invalidate the general rule.

[@Luis_G_R]

Hi, it's a great idea, I changed years ago to fountain pens because te waste of the normal pens. I will try this roller. Thanks!!

[@spiral-m]

That was hilarious. Well-done and thanks, on the path to using up a ton of ink and stop throwing away pens

[@BillyBobBoBilly]

Great informative video, the ink view port is for the normal international cartridges rather than a converter. Then obviously ditto for the transparent body as the original was opaque. But yeah, good video.

[@wildbill23c]

Those are roller ball pens. I had a J. Herbin Refillable Rollerball, and it wasn't the greatest in quality even though they're $13-15....the rollerball failed after a few weeks of everyday use, unfortunate because I liked writing with it, although scratchy, I found using it was nice as I could quickly and easily change inks and I didn't have to worry as much about paper type....although the majority of the use it was for was filling out 2 part forms something that a fountain pen don't work so well with. I'd like to find something similar that has a better quality nib to use for an every day pen as I enjoy using different inks that you just don't get with a ballpoint pen of any brand.

[@minhazuddin_ar]

I found a non-transparent black version, it looks like Lamy safari when capped. 🖤✒

[@sinisterthoughts2896]

In hot weather with my left hand the water based ink is a no go.

[@StefanMarjoram]

My BIC just ran out. My wife suggested refilling it with fountain pen ink. I thought that sounded perfectly potty but squirted some Platinum Carbon in anyway. The pen is glorious! Super smooth. No skipping. None of the drag you usually get with biros. A bit like a rollerball but you can tell the ink is better quality. I'm sure it'll leak everywhere when I'm not looking, though :)

[@louisvilletech7765]

how do you fill it with different ink? an eye dropper?

[@StefanMarjoram]

@@louisvilletech7765 I have a chunky needled (red topped I think) syringe which I use to refill cartridges. Don’t get too excited though - it did start to dry or skip a bit after a while :)

[@shaheenashraful425]

I have 2 of this roller ball pen but it skips during writing 😢😢😢

[@LizNori]

I like these pens. Good night!

[@JustinGuy-w8w]

I like all pens. Some of the rollerballs are better than others like with anything.

[@CeruleanCzarina]

The intro was brilliantly tragic information. Now I am side-eyeing my Pilot Acro 300 😂.

[@zaizo2110]

I'd like to see how it compares to Safari Rollerball or Pilot G2 and how perform with different inks

[@collins3D]

Have you tried other inks? I've tried 4 inks so far with mixed results. All of mine have taken time to start writing, if they do. Noodlers eel black doesn't work. Diamine Writer's Blood only works in the .5 correctly, in the .38 it's super light. Both pilot inks work for both sizes, better in the .38 though.

[@xingyuzhou1891]

I prefer fountain pens to rollerballs. With fountain pens, there is no ink beading at the tip, and I find them much smoother than any rollerball. Fountain pen nibs also last much longer. P.S. I don't see the point in drawing with ballpoint pens. Graphite is more consistent (no ink beading, for one) and far more archival.

[@Tailslol]

i dont want to ruin your dream but those roller pen still have moving parts so the ball tend to wear off after 20 refils pretty much, if they don't clog before that... fountain pens in the other hand will work longer without moving parts.(especialy if you have an eye dropper pen. (i think the 0.5 version feels better as well)

[@certuv]

What an Artist . I could use one of these, thank's

[@zaizo2110]

Can you review the .5?

[@zaizo2110]

How would it perform as an edc?

[@Reconbox1001]

You have made me curious too .... would you plz link the pen or tell what the pen is called? Compared to the Iso/Rapidograph.... how is it like?

[@Ashsibe]

This was the one I bought: www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001498863713.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.27424c4d4XvtU3 Or if you search for something like: 'Piston Fountain Pen Style Gel Pen' and similar items should appear on Ali-express. Compared to the Rotring Isograph it might be able to give off similar results but doesn't feel as smooth and deliberate. The tiny ball on mine gently tells me about every microscopic feature on the paper, even more than my 0.35 Rotring, doesn't feel scratchy though ... And it does have the advantage of being able to do extremely quick sketches with it unlike the Rotring.

[@Reconbox1001]

@@Ashsibe Thanks for the links :) I'll make that a project for 2022. Right now I'm testing some Lamy fountain pens and if they are any good for sketch/doodle and transporing around.

[@azamanza]

@@Ashsibewould you be able to post a new link? I’d love to be able to order it but the link that was previously posted doesn’t work anymore. Thanks!

[@davidgarza995]

@@azamanzasame

[@WhenDoesTheVideoActuallyStart]

Actually, from what I've read online about refillable rollerballs, you'd still need to buy another pen from time to time. The reason is simply that if you keep refilling it, the mechanism that holds the ball in place _will eventually wear out_ and the pen will start gushing ink. Ballpoints/Rollerballs unfortunately aren't engineered to last ^u^. (And yes, I assume that it's fixable if you use better materials that don't wear out/wear out less) Noodlers and a few others (Like Schmidt) also sell refillable "rollerball units" that fit in their fountain pens, so you buy less plastic each time. It's also better if you think that everything chinese is inherently bad thanks to sinophobia. Noodlers also sells a line of lubricated inks, they *might* decrease wear on the "rollerball clutch"? Oh, and there's also some french company with a refillable rollerball. But from reviews, it seems to be worse than all the others.

[@Ashsibe]

That's a good point about the ball wearing out. Especially since I put a pigmented ink in it for the extra abrasiveness. Well see how long it lasts as I might give an update on it later on. I seem to be using it every day for writing. Also I don't know what you mean with the 'sinophobia' comment. Sorry if came across as sinophobic if that was the case. I was more talking about the capitalistic drive to produce disposable products.... most of which come out of china... which I then buy and then I often get impressed by their value.

[@Bum_Numba_One]

@@Ashsibe What's sinophobia?

[@Ashsibe]

@@Bum_Numba_One Something to do with fear and or hatred of China I think.

[@collins3D]

The noodlers eel inks don't work in these rollarball pens.

[@WhenDoesTheVideoActuallyStart]

@@collins3D Sad

[@jfilm7466]

I bought 15 of these last week for around the price a packet of Bics. Glad I bought the 0.5 Bullet. Could you please draw a Mrs Mac's with a Vegemite topping next to a Crownie. Thanks 😃

[@Ashsibe]

I don't know. Condensing that much of Australia on a single piece of paper might be dangerous.

[@higherground711]

Can this or anything like it be found on Amazon? Thanks. 😊

[@Cogumelista]

can you use nanquim ink for those pen or it will clog the pen?

[@CelestialxPanda]

Wheres the damn link to buy?

[@UrbaNSpiel]

Cool

[@Bum_Numba_One]

I'm gonna buy another one and I DARE you to stop me.

[@alexandertolub6965]

Looks like they took a shell of a knockoff Lamy Safary, and installed there a different feeding mechanism most likely those are parts normally used for disposable rollerball pens, and it's a bad sign. Because the disposable rollerballs or ballpoints can only write so long. Actually, there's a similar pen from Pilot, you can refill them like this one and also change the tip. Some people have already tested long term use of rollerball on Pilot's product, and usually a fresh rollerball tip will be able to handle only several refills. In the Pilot's implementation you can actually replace the feed together with the rollerball tip, so it's a bit better solution. Eventually the ball wears down and needs replacement. Also consider that besides the friction the ink itself eats away at the ball because those inks frequently have corrosive properties. That's why they try to make fountain pen nibs with iridium on the tip (a very, very resilient material). Either way having a reusable rollerball pen doesn't seem possible for now.

[@Ashsibe]

I now agree with you on all points. I used one for ages after making this video and the thing didn't last. Sometimes I wonder if I should delete this video. As I no longer agree with the overly positive spin I put on it.

[@AlphineWolf]

It's still cheaper than the French version. It's now $16 for one with no replacement tip. The converter one costs like $30. Not worth, when you can get a Chinese one for a fraction of the cost. Herbin one is made in Taiwan anyways.

[@cdeeze]

@@Ashsibe Using a lubricated ink, like Noodler's Black Eel, apparently increase the life of the tip. Here's a video of Nathan Tardiff, the creator of Noodler's, demonstrating how to refill disposable rollerballs and refills: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p4LXmYB-n7R1gqcsi=qqHJoOsBLh5eCHJD&t=724

[@RomantistR]

6:38 aww cute

[@josephwallis8965]

It is just like a fountain pen, nothing fancy, Bic Ball pens are still the smoothest.

[@rickrudge9349]

It’s an interesting review of this pen, but it’s strange that you spent more than 13 minutes and never mentioned what the name was. It’s very similar to the Pilot Hi-Tech rollerball refillable pens.

[@ZommBleed]

Didn't Noodler's make one of these?

[@just4interest996]

This pen is actually really really cheap in China and neighboring countries. I’m in Taiwan and I got it for 1NZD or 60cents USD

[@randomcomment343]

Do you remember what the pen is called? Or the brand?

[@limmoblack]

Why not 'cannibalise' aload of bic pens for their ink and inject said ink into your ballpoint pen?

[@Ashsibe]

The ink in the Bic pens is really viscous. Imagine honey on a cold day. I don't think it would flow too well.

[@EPeltzer]

Except you have to throw it away when the ball wears out. Sigh. Replaceable balls?

[@tflees]

i guess fountain pen still wins, since nibs are replaceable and recyclable since it's just metal?

[@munnumkhalid]

Yeah with this drawing you can sell any pen.

[@darrencen6934]

As a owner of the Lamy Safari/ Vista . I could say : fucking knock off

[@rafaelrodriguez9798]

Ballpoint pens are standardized, which means they are everywhere, they dry quickly and are very cheap... If you want to write without exhaustion, you just have to buy a better quality pen and better quality paper... simple

[@xst-k6]

Ballpoint pens use oil-based inks. Inks used here were water based. This is just a refillable rollerball pen 👎